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In Which The NYT Claims That John McCain Is A White House Official
Some rag reports: Kremlin Says Russian ‘Volunteer’ Forces Will Fight in Syria:
Russia signaled deepening intervention Monday in the Syria war, strongly hinting that its “volunteer” ground forces would soon be fighting there..
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Although President Vladimir V. Putin has ruled out sending ground forces to Syria, a senior Kremlin defense official told Russian news agencies on Monday that military veterans who had fought in eastern Ukraine were likely to start showing up as “volunteer” ground forces in Syria.
The statement by the official, Adm. Vladimir Komoyedov, head of the armed forces committee in Russia’s Parliament, asserted that such volunteers “cannot be stopped.”
Maybe a map is needed for the NYT to learn some political differentiation.
Dear NYT -believe it or not- but the Kremlin and the Parliament in Moscow are indeed two dissimilar institutions. The retired Admiral Vladimir Komoyedov is the elected chairman of the defense committee of the Russian Duma and not a "Kremlin official". Also – Senator John McCain is not a "White House official" no matter how much he would like to be one.
The Kremlin cares about the former Admiral's opinion just as much as the White House cares about McCain's usual blabber. Komoyedov can announce whatever nonsense he likes. It does not make it Russian state policy.
The NYT of course loves to depict Russia as a dictatorship and attributes everything someone in Moscow says or does to the President of the Russian Federation or, even darker, to "the Kremlin". But that is propaganda, not reporting.
But back to the issue of the possibility Russian volunteers in Syria. On the "World" page of the NYT website we find a promotion for a current NYT Magazine piece headline: Meet the American Vigilantes Who Are Fighting ISIS
A ragtag group of fighters from America and Europe have joined the fight against extremists in Syria. But with little training and no clear leadership, do they know what they’re doing?
Are U.S. volunteers going to Syria to fight extremists in Syria a "signal" of "deepening intervention" by the official U.S. of A.? Why is seen as such when some Russian volunteers might want to do alike?
Gemini33 @ 5,
” I’ve been saying for two years that somebody very powerful wants to start a world war in order to prevent the inevitable decline, to do a reset of sorts which would bring us back to that kind of post ww2 advantage. Or something.”
Yeah, that whole neocon faction might actually want that. For sure they’re engaged in foolish brinkmanship– in the Ukraine coup, too.
But, tell me, if you are actually looking for it, don’t you see evidence of another faction that’s trying to pull back from such risky actions? I don’t like any of them, but Obama seems to me not to be any worse in his anti-Russia & Assad rhetoric than he has to be to placate whatever forces are behind the neocon faction– Gates, Soros, Vanguard, maybe Buffet, who else?
I mean the neocon faction is always complaining that he’s not being tough enough, should go ahead & bomb or invade or put missiles in Ukraine or whatever. He meets them partway rhetorically, but he doesn’t DO these things. Look, isn’t it true that if the neocon faction were totally in control US could’ve made it much more difficult for Russia to go into Syria? Yeah, there was that little bit of blather about not using somebody’s airspace to transfer weapons, but the US didn’t DO anything. Could’ve put ships off the coast & blockaded it. As soon as Russia put the first aircraft down in Latakia, US could’ve landed some of theirs & said, “No, we won’t permit the Russians to escalate here or to save the brutal dictator, etc.” US did nothing for days and days; when what was happening leaked out, the media yelled and exaggerated. No action. Nothing. We could insert an entire invading army and sporadically bomb Syria, but we could not put some aircraft down on an airfield if we really wanted to?
If you ignore the rhetoric and look at actions alone, Russia is there by arrangement with the Obama-Rockefeller-CFR faction. The neocon faction has taken too many risks and are waking up the masses; even the European vassals are starting to resist. Enter into the mindset of the more prudent Rockefeller faction for a moment and look at the difficulties and risks they wanted to avoid:
– If US does a Libya and seriously bombs Syria, isn’t it true that both Syria & Hezbollah have quantities of rockets that reach all parts of Israel? G. Kadi, guest writer at Saker says so..
– Russian & Chinese warships stood off the coast during the chemattack baloney, which gave Syria imaging capability for the anti-aircraft defenses that they have held in reserve, seldom using them in response to Israeli attacks.
Neocons wanted to bomb on that & other occasions. US didn’t do it, possibly couldn’t do it cuz couldn’t sacrifice Israel and a bunch of NATO planes and face down the Russian redline. Clearly the Russians must have threatened consequences– maybe military + the release of damaging intell on 9/11, for example??
Now ISIS was gaining on Syria. First ISIS had passed into the control of madman Erdogan– and no one wanted a Greater Turkey. For the last year ISIS had even become to a degree uncontrolled by anyone. Maybe US could make Turkey & the Saudis stop supporting them w money & arms– but there were 1000s of organized men out there; what would they do then & where? Syria looked like it could soon fall under ISIS control, where it would be a risk to Israel & Jordan. There are jiadis in Libya and Egypt. The giant bombing in Thailand was jihadis, jihadis reported in the Phillippines, jihadis from every country getting experience in Syria. Maybe such a very BIG dose of Straussian chaos is not a good idea.
Am I right that under this situation there was no other solution available to the US except to get rid of ISIS militarily? And they couldn’t do it themselves, cuz unacceptable to the American people, and the Russians & Syrians couldn’t trust them to do it. The Iranians already have more power in the region than Israel or Turkey or the Saudis like. So their power to do it had to be tempered & supplemented by the Russians. Under cover of those ridiculously-long Iran nuke negotiations the deal was struck, and the Russians came into Syria BY US AGREEMENT.
IMO there is no possibility that this occurred as it is presented to us, as an act of defiance by Putin. Too risky on one side & too passive on the other. After the deal was struck, it was publicly announced by four NATO countries including the US that the Patriots would be removed. They were enforcing a no-fly on Syria’s northern end, which protected the transit of ISIS supplyline. Although they were to be removed only when their scheduled deployment ended in several months, the US ship which served as command and control for them left the area, leaving the coast wide open.
Turkey and the neocon’s General Allen and others resisted this. They reinstituted the no-fly without the Patriots, they announced it on the Sunday talkshows. There was a sort-of denial by the White House, and a request that Turkey stop bombing the Syrian Kurds, which was sort-of obeyed. Petraeus tried to marshall enough support to use al qaeda unreservedly inside Syria, and to supply them weapons unreservedly (and doubtless, special forces). Twice previously the neocon faction had prevented a Syrian resolution. Once, the Obama-Rockefeller faction had even removed both Petraeus and Allen in that honeypot scandal that CANNOT have been anything but an intell op. But the strength of the faction opposing them was not great enough and they returned!! Then Obama tried to get Allen and a coalition to actually bomb ISIS, but Allen prevented their effective use and sent phoney intell to the White House showing degradation of ISIS. When word leaked out from the coalition, the Pentagon was asked to investigate, the phoney intell discovered & leaked to the press.
This time, with the fall of Syria imminent wiser heads prevailed. Do you remember UN ambassador Churkin saying, “But the US doesn’t WANT Assad to fall.” This is perfectly true. The neocon fantasy of putting some al qaeda-linked puppet in there was far too insecure for Israel. A 3-way partitioning of Syria w Assad in the part closest to Israel was apparently also judged too unstable– perhaps the threat of Syria’s rockets or Russia’s disapproval. Everybody except the neocons had had enough adventure.
Now, for all that ridiculous drama. It was almost blown when somebody said, “The Russians are baffled. They were invited in and now there’s all this scandal in the media.” For the life of me, I cannot remember who said that. There was the much too public mockery of the failed US “moderates” program. Finally, this was enough to get rid of the neocon’s point man on Syria; General Allen stepped down. He and others had maintained that Obama was unwilling to commit what was necessary to the program & he was right. If you go to the Daily Beast’s coverage on10/31/14 when the program was being started there are several articles which make it obvious that Obama was doing everything possible to undermine and emasculate the “moderates” training program– almost ludicrously so.
Then we have the silliness of not overflying 1 or 2 countries, then the “encounter” of Obama & Putin at the UN, complete w frozen faces and nonclinking wine glasses. Good grief! I guess it’s good for Obama’s popularity w whoever the neocon masses are, and it’s certainly good for Putin’s popularity at home & abroad– but didn’t you sense the usual overplaying of the contrived event? For all the shouting in the media, not even a whisper about additional sanctions or cutting Russia out of SWIFT. Yes, the media will continue to yell, but IMO it’s theatre.
OK, I promise not to write on this topic again. I have written about it in summary form previously and I couldn’t find anyone to share my excitement with, of having figured it out. This is my last effort.
Oh, and yes– IMO– Ukraine was resolved in the slipstream of the Syrian resolution, as Lone Wolf said, or was it Grieved? And Russia will be compensated for some of the cost of cleaning up the US mess in Syria by huge military and aviation purchases from Iran, publicly announced before the nuke deal was even thru Congress.
Posted by: Penelope | Oct 7 2015 1:43 utc | 55
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