Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
September 21, 2015
#Piggate

Holy cow. British politics are a pigsty.

There is of course this new clean Labour leader who became a vegetarian and animal rights activist after seeing the cruelty on a pig farm he worked at. But there is also David Cameron.

A distinguished Oxford contemporary claims Cameron once took part in an outrageous initiation ceremony at a Piers Gaveston event, involving a dead pig. His extraordinary suggestion is that the future PM inserted a private part of his anatomy into the animal’s mouth.

The source — himself an MP — first made the allegation out of the blue at a business dinner in June 2014. Lowering his voice, he claimed to have seen photographic evidence of this disgusting ritual.

The pig’s head, he claimed, had been resting on the lap of a Piers Gaveston society member while Cameron performed the act.

The MP also gave us the dimensions of the alleged photograph, and provided the name of the individual who he claims has it in his keeping.

Yeeeks. Didn't he read the bible?

"Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine"

So who should the Brits choose? The vegetarian or the man who, allegedly, committed necrophilia with a brave police officer?

Will Cameron confess that he loves pork? Literally. Or will he deny it: "I did not have sexual relations with that pig." So far Downing Street is tight snouted.

Will he claim that #piggate is total hogwash? Would that save his bacon now he's been squealed on? Pigs might fly …

His admirers though are defending him:

‏@LouiseMensch
Let's be clear that the story is rubbish, number one. And number two if it isn't, to quote the anti-nowhere league, "So f****** what?"

‏@LouiseMensch
It's bacon my evening this one. I like politicians who cut pork, but this story more of a porkie. No pic? No pig.

I don't think that the "if it isn't rubbish …" line is really helpful. It's okay for her that men fuck pigs just  because her husband does it all the time?

Besides that. Isn't the journalistic point of scandalous tales to get a response to them, no matter which one, and to then expand on it? The best response is therefore no response at all. 

Now for the porcine side of the story:

@CameronPig
Look, it's embarrassing for me, too.

@CameronPig
I ask that you respect my privacy in this difficult time.

@CameronPig
The whole episode left me with a bad taste in my mouth.

@CameronPig
.@David_Cameron it was a one time thing. Stop texting me.

Oh well. She was young, she needed the money. Always the same story.

I don't care much about Cameron. #IStandwithPorky. Or is it Kermit who I should feel sorry for?

Comments

Apparently poor people’s children were insufficiently perverse for that one.

Posted by: Jonathan | Sep 21 2015 4:47 utc | 1

When I thought Cameron couldnt get any worse, he did (if story is accurate). Its like there is no bottom to these people.
P.S. I’m vegetarian as well.

Posted by: Harry | Sep 21 2015 4:50 utc | 2

it puts that episode of Black Mirror (brilliant series, by the way). link

Black Mirror, a dark science-fiction anthology, premiered in 2011 with a morality tale about the internet that ends—and, naturally, this is a spoiler—with the fictional prime minister having sex with…a pig.

the show’s creator has already claimed (on Twitter) to have been totally unaware of Cameron’s proclivity for swine.
on the bright side, maybe the British Army will be less likely to stage a mutiny against Corbyn. this could also make for some great sloganeering, like:
SURE, I’VE GOT SOME CRAZY IDEAS ABOUT THE WORLD, BUT AT LEAST I’M NOT A PIGFUCKER!

Posted by: lizard | Sep 21 2015 5:17 utc | 3

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pearls before swine indeed.
What a hoot! Thanks b!

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 21 2015 5:59 utc | 4

The worst thing about this revelation is that Cameron (or should that be Macaroon – as in a sickly sweet but pointless confection) looks like the other Detective Inspector Barnaby and is, thereby, reminding UK Midsomer Murders viewers that their PM is an unmitigated Liar, Thug and Zionist.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Sep 21 2015 6:18 utc | 5

Look at Camerons Left hand holding the pig.
Then notice 3 of Camerons fingers can’t be fully seen next to the pigs anus.
Then look at Camerons ‘ how do like that ‘ face.
The rest I’ll leave to each of your imaginations, That fits b’s story above. Good photo choice too.

Posted by: tom | Sep 21 2015 6:25 utc | 6

@3 lizard
I cannot find that quote at the Sunday Times directly, but there are pictures from various twits. I imagine the Sunday Times published it and then disappeared it, wanting to have it both ways.
Correct me if I’m wrong here, but is a British general threatening a military coup in the Sunday Times?!

A senior serving general said the armed forces would take “direct action” to stop a Corbyn government downgrading them and said his [Corbyn’s] victory had been greeted with “wholesale dismay”, even among Labour-supporting soldiers.
“There would be mass resignations at all levels and you would face the very real prospect of an event which would effectively be a mutiny,” the general said.
“Feelings are running very high within the armed forces. You would see a major break in convention with senior generals directly and publicly challenging Corbyn over vital important policy decisions such as Trident, pulling out of NATO and any plans to emasculate and shrink the size of the armed forces. The Army just wouldn’t stand for it. The general staff would not allow a prime minister to jeopardise the security of this country and I think people would use whatever means possible, fair or foul, to prevent that. You can’t put a maverick in charge of the country’s security.”

He’s not wrong. I think the idea of “mass resignations at all levels of the military” of the military sounds great, and I imagine that most Brits do, too. Coupled with the general staff summarily fired by Corbyn, that would add great momentum to Corbyn’s move “to emasculate and shrink the size of the armed forces”. I’m sure most Brits would also see that as move that enhanced “the country’s security.”
And that’s … “at least I’m not a dead-pig porker!” The necrophilia angle is not to be missed. It’s not at all unusual behavior for any Trans-National Tory, really. Skull & Bones probably do the same or worse. I can easily imagine the Shrub making it with a dead-pig on … whose lap would that have been? Just a right of passage among the pig-fucking set.

Posted by: jfl | Sep 21 2015 6:43 utc | 7

Speaking of PBS, Alexis Tsipras is gushing like a teenage girl today, after selling out the Greek People and the National Endowment to the ZiMF-ECB-WB for a 4th round of unrepayable credit-debt. Looks like he won’t have to ‘get by’ as a Reaganesque spokesperson in Belgium for the ‘economic wisdom’ of structural adjustments or, Socrates forbid, soil his lily hands as a lobbyist for some Greek takeover consortium. No, he’s happy as a pig in hummus with the new electoral mandate, sucking down the Retsina, Taramasalata and tender lamb Souvlakia, with nothing really left to do except put his feet up on the desk, and sign the eviction notices.

Posted by: AHammer | Sep 21 2015 8:04 utc | 8

You can put lipstick on a pig…or you can put something else in its mouth.

Posted by: ralphieboy | Sep 21 2015 10:14 utc | 9

@8
Syriza is just another political party. All the decent people left. It’s unalloyed neoliberal politics now. The poor Greeks. They came through with their support at the polls when it [should have] counted – NO! to the Troika – and Syriza promptly turned the peoples’ NO! into yes, please.
I hear the turnout was low. Not surprising. Still tragic.
Greece seems dead meat. Without the people at the helm it can only keep rolling downhill from here.

Posted by: jfl | Sep 21 2015 10:21 utc | 10

This is sure to send the Muslims into a tizzy. A sheep is one thing and would be fine or at least overlooked, but a pig is absolutely verboten. Cameron must have lost his head, or he’s going to if the Muslims have their druthers.

Posted by: ? | Sep 21 2015 10:36 utc | 11

I should think the story of the pig is true. Ashcroft was very close to Cameron, and will have been in on a good number of intimate secrets. The Piers Gaveston society is/was particularly perverse, being a reference to someone who was the pretty boy of Edward II.
re 3. The story is in a book, so must have in gestation for at minimum several weeks, before Corbyn’s election.

Posted by: Laguerre | Sep 21 2015 10:46 utc | 12

So waht is the REAL story behind this 2013 report?
David Cameron secures £45m pig semen deal between UK and China

David Cameron secured an agreement for the UK to supply exports of the semen to Chinese breeders during his three day trade visit to China.


It is hoped that the UK industry can play an important role in helping China achieve greater efficiency through the provision of high quality genetic stock.


A Downing Street spokesman said: “We’re doing all we can to ensure that businesses up and down the country reap the rewards from our relationship with China. And that includes our pig farmers.
“This new deal to export pig semen will be worth £45 million to UK firms and means Britain’s best pigs will help sustain the largest pig population in the world.

Hmm … David Hameron’s interest in that deal is now somewhat suspicious …

New warning label for bacon: “Could contain seeds of Tories”

Posted by: b | Sep 21 2015 11:08 utc | 13

Great one from twitter, quoted by Craig Murray:
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/wp/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/pigsticking.png

Posted by: Laguerre | Sep 21 2015 11:09 utc | 14

Watching the general-threatening-to-coup story followed by the Tory-PM-pokomg-the-dead-pig story makes me think the latter is being played up to play down the former. If I were PM I’d publicly relieve the general who made those remarks of duty. Clearly out of/over the line for military in a supposedly democratic country.

Posted by: jfl | Sep 21 2015 12:03 utc | 15

Watching the general-threatening-to-coup story followed by the Tory-PM-pokomg-the-dead-pig story makes me think the latter is being played up to play down the former.

You’ve already said that, jfl. It’s not possible, as I said above. It’s in a book, so even if it were added in at the last moment, we’re talking about two or three weeks ago at the minimum. Before Corbyn was elected.
And nobody’s playing up the story. It’s hit twitter round the world of its own accord, not wishing to use the word ‘viral’.

Posted by: Laguerre | Sep 21 2015 12:12 utc | 16

Piers Gaveston was notorious, in an era not short of ruthless thieves, for his avarice. See for example May McKissack’s “The Fourteenth Century “. No surprise, then, that “Call Me Dave ” should have been a member.

Posted by: Cortes | Sep 21 2015 12:50 utc | 17

Black Mirror had an episode that touched on this. Life imitates art and art imitates life. Which came first?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuJF_dPqED0

Posted by: ? | Sep 21 2015 12:55 utc | 18

Whatever Cameron is doing, the piglet seems to enjoy it so it is fine.
By the way of contrast, Corbyn was documented to ride a “Mao bike” which was later established to be an “old Trek 721 Multitrack”, apparently a favorite ride of radical leftists. On the other had, his detractors digged out some long dead sentences of Corbyn, chopped into tiny pieces and and made a macabre display of an assembled collection.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Sep 21 2015 13:03 utc | 19

The Piers Gaveston Society is a men-only dining club founded in 1977 at the University of Oxford with membership limited to 12 undergraduates. Piers Gaveston – lover of King Edward II. Claims have been made of events including mass drug-taking and live sex shows.
The club’s motto is “Fane non memini ne audisse unum alterum ita dilixisse” which translates approximately to “Truly, none remember hearing of a man enjoying another so much.”
A 2015 book by Lord Ashcroft and Isabel Oakeshott claimed that, as part of an initiation ceremony for the society, UK Prime Minister David Cameron had once “put a private part of his anatomy” inside the mouth of a dead pig.
During their time in the society, members are given titles such as “Poker” and “Dispenser”, and are requested not to divulge what occurs in the society. Non-members are invited to some events such as the summer ball where each member invites 20 guests.
Notable member: Actor Hugh Grant. Somebody ask Hugh Grant for a comment.

Posted by: fast freddy | Sep 21 2015 13:08 utc | 20

Hugh Grant may have the the fellow holding the dead pig’s head. (“Dead Pigs Head” – good name for a band.)

Posted by: fast freddy | Sep 21 2015 13:11 utc | 21

The significance of this story, and fast Freddy alluded to it, is that elites in secret societies (Bohemian Grove, Skull and Bones, etc) put themselves in these compromising positions, which other members know about and can therefore blackmail them. Necrophilia, pedophilia, whateverphilia.
I’m not sure if Cameron did something to annoy someone or if his MP collegue broke the rules.
That, I think, is there true significance here.

Posted by: Lysander | Sep 21 2015 14:38 utc | 22

Well the usual prey of a Brit MP seems to 10-14 yr old boys, (often from Childrens Care Homes located in Jeremy Corbyn’s constituency, funnily enough)
So, for the Tories, Dave Cameron f**king a dead pigs head is actually a bit of a step up.
So overall this is a positive development, indicating a change of direction by the Brit establishment

Posted by: Lipstick | Sep 21 2015 14:41 utc | 23

@12 La guerre
Come on. You don’t need to create stories to order, you need to arrange the stories you have to work with and the amount of play they receive. Look at MoA, even, and the ratio of coup to pig coverage even here. Maybe I’m wrong. Maybe it’s a function – of course it’s a function of what I read. I may be out of touch with the ‘real’ mass consciousness. But it looks to me that the pig is leading by at least a nose and a belly laugh. And its an eminently forgetable story. It might be gone already. But it’s kept the coup … and the ‘danger to national security’ quote … off the air. They are history now. Lost their 15 seconds for discussion. Just an event that’s dropped out of sight down the memory tube. Or maybe not. Maybe they’re ready to break out anew and get the courage they deserve. I just saw the coup threat popped up at telesur. We’ll see, won’t we. Don’t take things so personally. And ‘it’s not possible’ sounds like Tory Camneron at PM’s questions. You’ve changed the question to one you feel you can answer irrefutably in the negative. It’s a question of things floating to the surface of the witches brew, not air deliveries from amazon and delivery dates. And its all speculation anyway. Most of what goes on here is speculation.

Posted by: jfl | Sep 21 2015 14:46 utc | 24

Did Cameroon stick his head in the pigs mouth?He does look prophylactic;see Steve Bell.
Schmul Rosner? in the NYlying Times;Israel needs better friends than America.
Arrogant bastards.

Posted by: dahoit | Sep 21 2015 15:43 utc | 25


New warning label for bacon: “Could contain seeds of Tories”
Posted by: b | Sep 21, 2015 7:08:16 AM | 13

Yep. And adds a whole new dimension to the GM food debate.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Sep 21 2015 16:11 utc | 26

On the coup against Corbyn story.
1. It was a story in the Sunday Times, probably the most unreliable source I can think of.
2. Such threats are not new in Britain. There was coup planning in the late 1960s against a Labour government but that went nowhere. There is a 2006 BBC doc about that. More here.

Posted by: b | Sep 21 2015 16:27 utc | 27

@22 lysander.. i agree.. looks like b is having fun with this story..

Posted by: james | Sep 21 2015 17:21 utc | 28

Somebody needs to mention the famous story of LBJ accusing a rival of fornicating with pigs. When his staff objected that this wasn’t true, LBJ answered to the effect, “I know. I want to hear my opponent deny it.”

Posted by: Edward | Sep 21 2015 17:31 utc | 29

b @27:
“2. Such threats are not new in Britain. There was coup planning in the late 1960s against a Labour government but that went nowhere. There is a 2006 BBC doc about that.”
Not only that, it’s already been rendered into a political thriller.

Posted by: Vintage Red | Sep 21 2015 20:24 utc | 30

goy
what is your beef?
are prime minister does not need to explain
his cumings or goings
inside or out
take your vaccine shot eat and drink your monsanto
above all work and pay your taxes.
the lord of the manor and his consorts dead piglet or sam cam jewish astor is not your concern.
this is distraction from reality sas syriana zionist gladio wars oded yinon and
picking and shipping the crop of children from the near east theatre of war for elm guest house kincora and dolphin square her majesties government eyes wide shut parties that is all.
gaveston and bullingdon fuckfest like david kelly camoron armscor south african missing nuke stories
are for the club house chit chat only.
chatham house rules apply here dear boyz

Posted by: lord charles drake | Sep 21 2015 23:08 utc | 31

david is jewish royalty
what better initiation
sacrifice
oath
payment tribute
to his god
satan.
a bloody rite of passage
not a drop of mint sauce to be seen.
what photographic video audio mi5 capture
what scoop murdoch footage
what value when cam
entered porky pig
king david thanks his rabbi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRjX9xbswW4

Posted by: lord charles drake | Sep 21 2015 23:32 utc | 32

Thierry Meyssan announced on Syrian TV that 2000 CSTO troops are already on the ground in Syria. http://www.voltairenet.org/article188763.html

Posted by: Penelope | Sep 21 2015 23:52 utc | 33

David Cameron, the big bad wolf, had been huffing and puffing quite vocally the recent days of how he would do this and that in Syria.
Then, out of a sudden, this story made him STFU

Posted by: Stefan | Sep 21 2015 23:57 utc | 34

32
Jeremy Corbyn’s parents were named David Benjamin and Naomi
Seems to me he might have more of a claim on Jewishness than Mr Cameron.
33
Thierry should apply to the Guardian for a job. Given the rumour-mongering and outright lies he’s been publishing lately, he’d easily give Harding or Chulov a run for their money

Posted by: Lipstick | Sep 22 2015 0:22 utc | 35

@18
Just a crazy coincidence.“>https://youtu.be/AJXWPGKCC7k”>coincidence.

Posted by: Shadow Nine | Sep 22 2015 1:56 utc | 36

ugh, that was fucked up ugly. Sorry folks.

Posted by: Shadow Nine | Sep 22 2015 1:59 utc | 37

Can a pig-porker be a Friend of Israel? I imagine Cameron’s initiation into that august order looking something like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRxUbv90lLI

Posted by: Sean | Sep 22 2015 4:08 utc | 38

OT @33 penelope.. thanks for that update.. interesting development if true..

Posted by: james | Sep 22 2015 4:25 utc | 39

This poor little prostitute pig has been through way too much. Should get retirement checks.

Posted by: blues | Sep 22 2015 8:07 utc | 40

Nothing like “anti-zionists” playing a quick round of “spot the Jew.” Winner gets a presentation copy of the “Protocols.”

Posted by: rufus magister | Sep 22 2015 11:52 utc | 41

Did you say “spot the jew?”
Here’s a very careless one whom Gilad Atzmon spotted recently…
Hirsh vs Corbyn
http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/2015/9/19/hirsh-vs-corbyn
And let’s not forget Bibi, the one Vlad spotted on the steps of the Kremlin, for a game of Russian Roulette, quite recently.
Much higher stakes though … no more Syria vs no more “Israel”.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Sep 22 2015 13:13 utc | 42

Just imagine it. If in a few years the situation in Europe has deteriorated such that nukes are going to start flying, the man in the UK giving the orders to launch armageddon will be a necrophiliac pig fucker.
Seriously though, it appears to have been a oxford dining club initiation ceremony. It would have applied to all members, not just David ‘dick in head’ Cameron. How many of these pig fuckers have places in high government, finance and the military?

Posted by: Yonatan | Sep 22 2015 14:07 utc | 43

35;Jesus’s parents were named Mary and Joseph(or God?)nice Jewish names,but it didn’t prevent His honesty regarding the Israelites,and their corruption.
Go Corbyn,this guy is OK by me,even if Jewish.

Posted by: dahoit | Sep 22 2015 14:30 utc | 44

Ha ha ha… 🙂 I’m with Lipstick at 23, this is highly entertaining, absolutely hilarious, and incomensurably better than some of the sexual doings of the Brit. hoi polloi with living people.
Cameron (phone): Hello President Petroshenko, Petro old chap, just an informal quick call, how are things going with Angie and the Twit? You know of course we are right behind you, or err in front of you, for an inviolate Ukraine.
Petro: David, fine, fine, fine!, could you send some more money via the IMF situation getting a little bit diff-I-cult err say problems there is
David: My advisors tell me one of your nick names on the internet is Porky, I’m very interested, names are important for PR, what do you feel?

Posted by: Noirette | Sep 22 2015 15:51 utc | 45

corbers corblimey corbyn.
deep deep gladio man.
mi5 queens man true.
kosher with full chabad certification.
available for decades for press the flesh with fellow mi5 agents in
ira.
how funny that the head of the ira was raping kids in elm guest house
exiting as leon britainski was entering.
corbyn is a demolition expert controlled of course that is always best.
like the dancing mossad dicks of 9 and 11 talmud ritual.
israels deep cover man gets his activation orders.
charles falconner whatever the spelling for fat analist school friend and handler of blair.
corbers gave charlie the job dealing with laws
falconer should be in jail for war crimes in iraq with his satanic masonic boy blair.
but no corbers was not born in a grand home not educated at an mi school .
funny robin cook and john smith סיירת מטכ”ל‎,
dead and this bad act performs
lets not even talk of hilary bent tavistock programmed son of workin class here ho lord anthony wedgewood farquart benn.

Posted by: lord charles drake | Sep 22 2015 16:08 utc | 46

Getting piggy with it

Posted by: Sam.D (AntiNWO) | Sep 22 2015 17:35 utc | 47

hw at 42 —
Well, it’s not really my game, but I don’t think you’ll score with that play.
That Fleet Street, with the aid of some Jewish organizations in Britain, tried to smear Corbyn with his long-standing solidarity with the Palestinians is old news.
lipstick at 45 —
Wiki says nothing about Corbyn’s religious background. Biblical names are quite common amongst Low Church Protestants.

Posted by: rufus magister | Sep 22 2015 22:31 utc | 48

Well, it’s not really my game, but I don’t think you’ll score with that play.
Posted by: rufus magister | Sep 22, 2015 6:31:57 PM | 48

Well, cowards, cretins, assholes and unmitigated greed and lying are grist for my mill, Caroline.
If Bibi went home from his meeting with Vlad thinking that erasing Syria won’t cost “Israel” an arm and a leg then he’s even more deluded than anyone could have imagined.
Russia is not in Syria to “fight ISIS”.
It’s there to assess the degree to which the sponsors of ISIS are closing ISIS down. And if they’re not doing it quickly enough then Russia will “incentivise” those sponsors to pull their collective finger out.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Sep 23 2015 4:27 utc | 49

in re 49 —
I said nothing about Putin and Netanyahu, so I’m a little unclear about how this is a response to my observation on your non-news concerning Corbyn. I’d throw a yellow card, but like I said, it’s not my game.
But since you brought it up, I would think fighting ISIS would be a good way to “incentivize” it’s shutdown. Though I don’t see the Saudis and their friends in the Gulf pulling the plug on their Wahabi mercenaries.

Posted by: rufus magister | Sep 23 2015 4:41 utc | 50

41
Nothing like fake “anti-imperialist” playing a quick round of “lyin fer Zion.” Winner gets a presentation copy of the “The Kings Torah” which is packed full of Jewish justifications for lying to and killing Goyim, which Rufie can use next time the shithead feels he needs to lie some more to cover up for the zioracist jews

Posted by: Lipstick | Sep 23 2015 11:12 utc | 51

The odds of having parents with the names david benjamin and naomi, in the 1940s in the UK, and them not being of jewish extraction, are frankly miniscule
You can lie about that if you want to, just dont demamd that anyone else do. Thanks.

Posted by: Lipstick | Sep 23 2015 11:16 utc | 52

Lipstick at 52 —
I did not lie.
I merely reported that his Wiki bio was silent on the subject, and observed that “Jewish” names are not uncommon amongst various Protestant sects. And I don’t recall anyone actually presenting any evidence that he is. Surely such a fact would have come to light, no?
My time was limited when I wrote my post, but I do have a little time this morning.
And as it turns out, the facts have come to light, and my speculation was largely correct. Below is the complete text of the Jewish Chronicle Jeremy Corbyn: ‘My Jewish ancestry’, emphasis added.

New Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has said that he has some Jewish ancestry.
In an interview in today’s Church Times, he revealed that there was a “Jewish element” in the family.
His mother Naomi was a Bible-reading agnostic “brought up in a religious environment and her brother was a vicar, and there was quite a lot of clergy in her family,” he said.
Going back a lot further, there is a Jewish element in the family, probably from Germany.”
His father was a church-going Christian.
Mr Corbyn said that he himself was “not anti-religious at all” and probably went to more religious services than most strong believers.
“I go to churches, I go to mosques, I go to synagogues,” he said. “I find the power of faith very interesting.
“I have friends who are very strongly atheist and wouldn’t have anything to do with any faith; but I take a much more relaxed view of it. I think the faith community offers and does a great deal for people.”

It would seem that the ancestry is far enough back so that it fails the Nazi’s test — one Jewish grandparent. Does he pass your’s, then?
He passes muster at Stormfront (“White Pride World Wide”). I will not deign to post the link, but it is an early result in a Bing search for “jeremy cobyn jew church times.” Nor will I report any of their helpful tips on Jew-spotting, but they seem to take the “Brylcreem Standard” — “Just a dab will do you.”
I did not find the original article in the early results, but it is widely reported.
Since the information is nearly a week old, I wonder why none of the terribly interested parties above managed to find it….

Posted by: rufus magister | Sep 23 2015 12:09 utc | 53

in re 51 —
And you get the consolation prize — “A beautifully restored Third Reich Swizzle Stick!”
The powder room is off to the right, if you’d like to freshen your make-up.

Posted by: rufus magister | Sep 23 2015 12:16 utc | 54

And a years free membership of the PIE goes to Enabler-In-Chief Mr Zio-Rufie!
Early day motion 2337
SIR JIMMY SAVILE OBE

    Session: 2010-12
    Date tabled: 31.10.2011
    Primary sponsor: Hamilton, Fabian
    That this House mourns the death of Sir Jimmy Savile OBE who has died two days before his 85th birthday; recognises his enormous contribution to charitable giving, raising more than 40 million for charities during his lifetime; appreciates his essential Yorkshire character; remembers the smiles brought to the faces of children who appeared on Jim’ll Fix It; enjoyed his choice of music during his time as a disc jockey; and sends its condolences and sympathy to family and friends in Leeds, Yorkshire, the UK and throughout the world.
    Showing 26 out of 26

  • Name – Corbyn, Jeremy
  • Party – Labour Party
  • Constituency – Islington North
  • Date Signed – 02.11.2011
    Total number of signatures: 26
    =======

      Show: by Withdrawn signatures

    • Showing 0 out of 0

Oh dear .. .

Posted by: Lipstick | Sep 23 2015 12:51 utc | 55

.Since the information is nearly a week old, I wonder why none of theterribly interested parties above managed to find it…
Posted by: rufus magister | Sep 23, 2015 8:09:49 AM | 53

Since it was obvious from his parents names i guess no one else but an Zioracist obsessive like yourself felt the need.
But thanks for pointlessly confirming exactly what I said earlier regarding Corbyn being of jewish extraction.
At least this time you didn’t bother to outright lie about it, so that’s something i guess.

Posted by: Lipstick | Sep 23 2015 15:28 utc | 56

Is that you, lamebot?

Posted by: rufus magister | Sep 23 2015 22:57 utc | 57

in re 56
There’s that funny definition of lying. Disagreeing with bad ideas and daring to correct them.
Nothing obvious about the names. With St. David as the patron saint of Wales, it’s not an uncommon name. Here’s a contemporary of his father, David Freeman-Mitford.
So it’s “Brylcreem Rule” then. Glad to see you’re more rigorous in your defense of “Purity of Essence” than genocidal fascists.
So let me get this straight — you and your buddies are the one that brought up ethnicity and religion, and obvious get pretty worked up about it. But I’m racist for saying that you’re wrong.
I don’t think a distant, unnamed ancestor qualifies you. But then, I’m far more interested in Corbyn’s present politics (a great improvement over Blair and Cameron) than long-dead ancestors and their religious leanings. I presume you dislike both about Corbyn.
And this is odd, too. When Savile passed, he had not yet been exposed and was still a popular entertainer, seen as a philanthropist. The Conservatives freaking knighted him. Even as Brittan, Thatcher’s Home Secretary, was covering up for him. To her credit, the Iron Lady balked, but the honor was bestowed quickly after she was ousted by Major.
But it’s Corbyn’s fault for signing on to a laudatory resolution, well before the accusations became public?

Posted by: rufus magister | Sep 23 2015 23:24 utc | 58

I blame the asshole who post at 11 with a ? for a nym with “This is sure to send the Muslims into a tizzy. A sheep is one thing and would be fine or at least overlooked, but a pig is absolutely verboten. Cameron must have lost his head, or he’s going to if the Muslims have their druthers.” for reducing this thread to an ugly self incriminatory racism & culturist promoting dribble of shit.
Who are ‘The Muslims’ do they have a green crescent stamped on their foreheads?
The notion that a hugely diverse group of people spread across the world can be lumped into ‘The Muslims’ appals. Followers of Islam include Fatima Muhammad Al-Fihri responsible for rekindling Socratic analysis in 859 by founding Al-Quraysh university. Also known as Qarawiyyin university which has been running ever since, long before Europeans copped onto the idea from the Moors in Spain.
Or my old comrades on Mindanao who when I knew them, were getting shot up for being ‘commies’, but who are currently being libelled and shot up for being ‘islamofacists’. The truth is that they are simply fighting invasion and oppression by foreigners. When the Japanese invaded chasing the despicable self-styled emperor, Douglas McArthur out, Maguindanaon, Tausug, & Maranao unified against the invaders, and simply reset the sights of their antique weaponry, meanwhile the assholes in Manila who now make up the Luzon oligarchy, putative bosses since amerika moved outta center stage, bowed and scraped to the Japanese exactly as they had to ‘Emperor’ MacArthur. The song remains the same but the words change when yer a sociopathic capitalist bent on world domination.
And that is why it is vital that those of us who don’t go along with the idea of corporate capitalism going globalist must avoid the easy labels msm force upon diverse people. Racist terms like ‘the muslims’ or ‘the jews’ are intended to categorise and demonise fellow human beings so that ordinary normal humans who are generally devoted to family and friends don’t cop a jolt when settlements of fellow humans in Syria, the Philippines, the DRC or Gaza get wiped off the planet as if they didn’t exist.
I could argue for ever with rufus magister over his weird belief that a bunch of migrants should be allowed to set up a racist & theocratic state in Palestine, but I would never disagree with him about his dislike of the ‘jew’ baiting and ‘jew’ spotting that has become accepted practice for some brainless types at MoA. As for the current bullshit about whether or nor Corbyn counts as a ‘four by two’ I guarantee that if anyone who posts in here goes more than a couple of generations back in their ancestry they will discover that they too had so-called Jewish, Islamic and Asian and African forebears in their genetic mix.
So what? – it isn’t what genes a man or woman carries that defines them, it’s not even what they say – a lesson most of us have learned the hard way from the political class, it is what people do that defines whether another human is worthy of respect or dissing.

Posted by: Debs is dead | Sep 24 2015 2:18 utc | 59

@59 debs is dead.. thanks. i couldn’t agree more..

Posted by: james | Sep 24 2015 5:04 utc | 60

But I’m racist for saying that you’re wrong.
Posted by: rufus magister | Sep 23, 2015 7:24:06 PM | 58

No rufie you’re a shithead zioracist becaise you’re a shithead zioracist
We all saw you being a shithead zioracist so theres no point in trying to lie your way outta it now, tsk tsk. Its bad enough you pretending you’re not a shithead, but for you to now pretend that you’re not a ZioRacist is laughable

Posted by: Lipstick | Sep 24 2015 6:29 utc | 61

Debs is dead at 59 —
Thanks for weighing in.
I have noted earlier that this “weird belief that a bunch of migrants should be allowed to set up a… state in Palestine” is the internationally approved position on this issue. Especially the party most adversely affected by the Israeli perpetration of “facts on the ground,” the Palestinians, which also has the right to its own state in borders agreed upon in 1967.
Let me be clear — I do not think the establishment of the state of Israel in 1948 was a wise idea on a number of levels. I would agree that it has become an apartheid state. I’m a little unsure but I’d lean towards semi-theocratic. Rather like Iran is, not quite so bad as Saudi Arabia or their Wahabi “moderates.”
The idea of moving folks around to where they were 2,000 years ago, on the basis of what the Sky People told them they could do back at the time, applied on any larger scale, is going to have us all moving around. As a descendant of the Gaels, I’m looking forward to getting our half of the continent you bloody Latins, Franks and Sassenachs took from us. See The Tain, we took it from the Neanderthals fair and square.
And if that means you’ve gotta scoot the Magyars back to Attila’s homeland, so be it.
Since the space might be needed by all of us Yanks if the Native Americans toss us out. But I’d think they’d let us stay, provided we lose our money in their casinos.
Thus have the Sky People spoken to me, hear their fearsome words and obey! Could I interest you in the finest quality propitiation ceremony, with packages available for every taste and budget? Call today! Acolytes are standing by! Don’t wait! The Day of Evaluation is at hand!
The establishment of the State of Israel by the United Nations after the Second World War was a blatant effort to solve the problem or European anti-semitism on the backs of the Arab people. But given the reality of the Holocaust, as well as Britain’s earlier disposition of lands they didn’t actually control at the time during The Great War, this being the demand of many of the victims, it is difficult to see how this act could have been effectively resisted at the time. Nor how it can safely and practically this may be undone.
We reds like to speak of “Transitional Programs” — sets of realistic but far-reaching demands against the status quo, the actual implementation of which would effective begin the change the dynamics in the class struggle.
Clearly in this situation an immediate halt to all settlements, the Gaza blockade, and cash compensation and damages to the Palestinian Authority for the destruction of property are on the agenda. Success by the BDS movement does have the potential, IMHO, to get this implemented. I would also recommend the immediate, mandatory inclusion of Israeli Arab parties in the government. The right of return should remain intact, and the settlers either submitting to Palestinian control or selling their properties and departing.
There are always risks with action or inaction. There’s a clear risk here — the strengthening of Hamas. Theocracies of any sort are bad news. I get bad feelings about our own fundamentalists, and the implications of Modi’s Hindutva, too.
Given the depths of mutual hostility by substantial segments of both peoples and the very real risk this poses, it is unwise to speculate too exactly how this might change the landscape, or to anticipate any further steps. But I think that whatever one wishes for an equitable solution to this problem, these are the necessary first steps.

Posted by: rufus magister | Sep 24 2015 6:45 utc | 62

Lippy at 61 —
I see you’re enjoying your swizzle stick. Sadly you’re little gifts were not to my taste.
Bully for you, fascist. You’re definitely brownshirt material.
Again, you’ve mussed your make-up with your little tirade. I think you’ll like the decor in the restroom on the far right.

Posted by: rufus magister | Sep 24 2015 6:56 utc | 63

Tsk tsk, debs
Youre just giving ZioRufie, the shithead zio-racist, opportunities to try any pretend that hes not a shithead zionist racist
This is hilariously dishonest of him given that we all saw him spinning and lying for jewish land-thieves and jewish murderers in occupied- Palestine.
But dishonesty on a grand scale is what people expect from shithead ZioRacists, especially when like shithead Rufie, the shitheads run around pretending to be communists, when really theyre just shithead zioracists in disguise

Posted by: Lipstick | Sep 24 2015 7:02 utc | 64

As usual, like a good little zio-supremacist, Zio-Rufie seeks to put the blame for jewish racist supremacy onto anyone but jews themselves.
In rufies mind, just as in the mind of every zioracist, jews are never to blame for their own actions.

Posted by: Lipstick | Sep 24 2015 7:14 utc | 65

Btw rufie the shithead zioracist is still spinning for zionazis with his “1967 borders” BS
The land the zionazi stole post 1948 and pre67 is every bit as stolen, according to international law, as land stolen post1967.
Zionazis like rufie love to distract people from the landstealing by blathering on about 1967

Posted by: Lipstick | Sep 24 2015 7:19 utc | 66

The only difference between zio-rufie and say another zionazi racist shithead like Naftalie Bennet is that Zio-rufie thinks the Zionazis should only benefit from some of their landstealing but not all of it.

Posted by: Lipstick | Sep 24 2015 7:23 utc | 67

Re: ziorufies lies about Corbyn’s support for Jimmy Saville
Saville was firrst interviewed by police in 2007 about the crimes
This was a matter of public knowledge at the time
So Corbyn’s praise of Saville in 2011 cannot be dismissed by lying that “Corbyn couldn’t have known”.
He knew. The dogs in the street knew.
Thats why only 26 arseholes in the house of commons signed the motion. And one of those 26 was Jeremy Corbyn. And he has yet to withdraw that support.
The very same Jeremy Corbyn who did absolutely nothing when handed a dossier on highprofile paedophile ring preying on kids in orphanages in his own constituency.
The very same J Corbyn who when another MP investigated those claims immediately made a complaint that the other MP was interfering in Jeremy’s constituency.
That MP was doing what Corbyn should have been doing.
For some reason Mr Corbyn really didnt seem to want anyone in Westminster investigating a high profile peadophile ring operating in his constituency.

Posted by: Lipstick | Sep 24 2015 7:50 utc | 68

in re 68 —
And yet, he won. So folks back in Old Blighty do not share your views on his role.

Posted by: rufus magister | Sep 24 2015 11:36 utc | 69

And this would be because Major and Brittan, as Ministers, have far more authority than a lowly Opposition back-bencher.

Posted by: rufus magister | Sep 24 2015 11:40 utc | 70

Yeah so drive those damn thieves into the sea. Gtve those Christ-killers what for, right?

Posted by: rufus magister | Sep 24 2015 11:43 utc | 71

So folks back in Old Blighty do not share your views on his role.
Posted by: rufus magister | Sep 24, 2015 7:36:40 AM | 69

LMAO – Rufie, you sad pathetic Zio-Racist and apologist for Left-wing Pedophile-enablers like Corbyn, unlike you I don’t require any one else to hold the same opinions in order to feel validated, thanks,
And this would be because Major and Brittan, as Ministers, have far more authority than a lowly Opposition back-bencher.
Posted by: rufus magister | Sep 24, 2015 7:40:27 AM | 70

The usual lies and obfuscation from our Zio-Racist friend. Well done Rufie – I’d expect nothing less from a liar of your calibre.
When Labour came to power from 1997, AFTER Major, Leon Brittan and the Tories were defeated, Jeremy “Pedophile-enabler” Corbyn STILL did absolutely nothing about High-Profile Pedophile-ring operating in his own constituency of Islington North.
So you see, rather than trying to pass the blame onto someone else, it is Corbyn’s fault and his alone, that when handed a dossier of information and asked to do something about the High-Profile Pedophile-ring operating in his own constituency of Islington North, Jeremy “Pedophile-enabler” Corbyn did absolutely nothing about the High-Profile Pedophile-ring operating in his own constituency of Islington North.
AND
When another MP tried to highlight the issue of a High-Profile Pedophile-ring operating in Jeremy Corbyn’s own constituency of Islington North, Jermey Corbyn ‘s immediate reaction was to try and have that MP punished by the House Of Commons
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Yeah so drive those damn thieves into the sea. Gtve those Christ-killers what for, right?
Posted by: rufus magister | Sep 24, 2015 7:43:38 AM | 71

still pimping those zioracist AIPAC and Rabbi Shmuley Talking Points, Rufie? well done rufie – not content with lying for Naftalie Bennet’s benefit a week or two ago Rufie has decided to double-down on the Zio-~Racist talking points.
Rufie the Magister of Zio-racist talking points – “Fearlessly Lyin for Zion @MOA – 24/7”

Posted by: Lipstick | Sep 24 2015 12:58 utc | 72

Watching the notorious liar and racist Zio-Rufie desperately trying to apply lipstick to the stinking corpse that is the Corbyn pig, is quite hilarious.
There really are no depths this lying scum will not stoop to.

Posted by: Lipstick | Sep 24 2015 13:05 utc | 73

Just to highlight the deliberate dishonesty inherent in Zio-Rufies claim that

    And this would be because Major and Brittan, as Ministers, have far more authority than a lowly Opposition back-bencher.
    Posted by: rufus magister | Sep 24, 2015 7:40:27 AM | 70

Social workers warned Corbyn that child abuse was rife in his Islington constituency in 1992
The conservatives lost power in 1997 – 5 years later
In those 5 years Jeremy “Pedophile-enabler” Corbyn could have tried to do something about the High-Profile Pedophile-ring operating in his own constituency of Islington North, but chose not to.
Jeremy “Pedophile-enabler” Corbyn’s own party of Labour came to power in 1997 and stayed in power until 2010.
In those extra 13 years with his own party in power Jeremy “Pedophile-enabler” Corbyn could have tried to do something about the High-Profile Pedophile-ring operating in his own constituency of Islington North, but yet again he deliberately chose not to.
So Zio-rufie’s lame and dishonest attempt @ 70, to put the blame, for Jeremy “Pedophile-enabler” Corbyn’s 18 years of complete inaction on this matter, onto John Major or anyone else falls rather flat on it’s lying little face

Posted by: Lipstick | Sep 24 2015 13:47 utc | 74

AND
not only that but when another MP actually tried to highlight the issue of a High-Profile Pedophile-ring operating in Jeremy Corbyn’s own constituency of Islington North, Jeremy “Pedophile-enabler” Corbyn ‘s immediate and ONLY reaction was to try and have that MP punished by the House Of Commons

Posted by: Lipstick | Sep 24 2015 13:52 utc | 75

Error:
since we’ve already had 5 years of Piggy Cameron’s Conservative Gov’t it’s now actually 23 years of “Paedophile enabling” from Jeremy Corbyn, and not the mere 18 years earlier stated

Posted by: Lipstick | Sep 24 2015 13:56 utc | 76

Late at night, sloppy work, my bad. So amend that to “long-time back bencher.” In Opposition or Government, a weaker figure than a Senator or Representative, due to the nature of parliamentary politics.
The larger point should be clear — many, many more far more powerful officials and well-connected figures amongst the Tories and Blairites bear far, far more culpability for Savile’s crimes. Like, maybe, folks who employed him and freaking knighted him?
This item from the Telegraph in late 2014 is clear who is to blame – the Royals and Thatcher to blame for Jimmy Savile scandal. Fellow Beeb presenter Noel Edmunds said of his colleague:

“Savile was in deep with the Royals, with Mrs Thatcher, with the hospitals and with Broadmoor.
There’s a whole establishment that let him into its heart. Not just the BBC.” [emphasis added]

Corbyn is many things, but I don’t think our leftist backbencher, vilified by Fleet St., is in the ranks of the Establishment.
This item from The Express makes it clear, while there were rumors in entertainment circles, nothing was public knowledge. As early as 1978, Johnny Rotten told the Beeb in a suppressed interview, Savile was “into all sorts of seediness. We all know about it but we’re not allowed to talk about it. I know some rumours.”
I’m glad to see Lydon was able to Rise to the challenge; the Beeb banned him for years thereafter, he says. The dirt on Savile only became public in 2012, after his death.
And several items noted, had those actually in power actually had looked, Savile was fairly open about his activities in his auto-biography.
These attempts to tar Corbyn with this brush stem from July of this year. Given Fleet Street’s hatred for the man, this is surprising balance from the Daily Mail. They emanated from a fellow Labour MP, Mann. Not a disinterested defender of children and upholder of the law, by the way – slated to be a minister in the shadow cabinet of Yvette Cooper. I would note Mann is a key figure on the official anti-semitism committee. These allegations surfaced after highlighting his solidarity with the Palestinians failed to kill his numbers; a number of Jewish organizations there aided that campaign.
Please note here, if you would, the character of Geoffrey Dickens. A boy crying wolf immediately came to mind. Even Mann in his letter noted that “There are many people who also rubbished the idiosyncratic Mr. Dickens” and allowed that Corbyn only “inadvertently helped the rubbishing.”
Your a bigger anti-semite than most fascists, and a bigger hard-ass on Corbyn than his accuser. At least you’re consistent on this point.
This is just some blogger, but I think they make some valid points and comparisons. Play a very minor part in a sordid affair, you’re not qualified to be PM. But bleeding howl for senseless, destructive wars in Iraq and Syria, you get to be Home Secretary.
And I again reiterate, the English Labour voters, with much more knowledge of the allegations and a far greater stake in the outcome, clearly did not take them seriously. Neither do I.

Posted by: rufus magister | Sep 25 2015 0:11 utc | 77