Any adult male in area should be considered enemy combatant. If anyone complains, just say it’s the American way. Birds of a feather…
It’s obvious, if they complain about Egypt, imagine all those nameless people that are killed by drone strikes.

Posted by: Sam (AntiNWO) | Sep 15 2015 10:24 utc | 3

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-15/mexico-slams-egypt-air-strike-after-tourists-killed/6777358
Here is a different version….without the nazi reference

Posted by: mcohen | Sep 15 2015 10:49 utc | 5

Or it’s like the CNN/Yahoo headline “Clashes rock Jerusalem’s Al-Aqsa mosque compound” when the facts were “Israeli Security Storms Al-Aqsa Mosque During Services”. There were numerous videos and photos showing the unprovoked, just to piss them off, assault. RT.com and presstv.com reported the event accurately.

Posted by: fairleft | Sep 15 2015 11:28 utc | 7

Bring back the Muslim Brotherhood. This wouldn’t have happened if it was still in power. The NYT is an Israeli rag.

Posted by: Morsi | Sep 15 2015 12:10 utc | 9

The egyptian ambassador in Mexico City used to boast the “24 hours security” in tourist sites, Cairo and surrounding areas, thanks to the “democratic” coup against president Morsi…

Posted by: guy | Sep 15 2015 14:09 utc | 11

Ya mean the israeli-approved Arab dictator (as opposed to the non-israeli approved Arab dictators, Saddam, Gaddaffi, Assad) is getting GOOD PRESS from the house propaganda horn the New York Times???
WHAT!?!?!?

Posted by: farflungstar | Sep 15 2015 15:04 utc | 13

saudi arabia.. i notice the nyt, wapo and wsj are not wanting to upset the saudi regime by mentioning they ”might” be murdering innocent people in yemen either… apparently the dictatorships that have a cozy relationship with the usa don’t have to worry much about what they do.. israel is another case in point… they might have a special arrangement in having zionists on their side!

Posted by: james | Sep 15 2015 16:06 utc | 15

Aahhh! “Murderous Egyptian Dictator”!
It would certainly have been better with Morsi?
And BTW, b, arent’t you a regular reader of Sic Semper Tyrannis?
Did you miss the post which explains that these blunders are kinda the “regular operating procedure” of the Egyptian army?
http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2015/09/httpwwwnytimescom20150914worldmiddleeastegypt-forces-accidentally-kill-mexican-touristshtml_r0.html
Looks like MOA is just another crappy propaganda outlet (beside the usual loony commenters I mean)

Posted by: acrimonious | Sep 15 2015 18:37 utc | 17

From Judith Miller’s nuclear fantasy in Iraq, the NYT has long lost its credibility. People tend to believe the opposite of what they write.

Posted by: Virgile | Sep 15 2015 19:59 utc | 19

this sudden stab in the back has to do with the reports of weapon deliveries from Egypt to Syria by the request of Russia?

link Gehennah?

Posted by: okie farmer | Sep 15 2015 22:40 utc | 21

Now the truth comes out: the West had their chance to have Assad go, with the blessing of Russia no less. But they said no.

West ‘ignored Russian offer in 2012 to have Syria’s Assad step aside’
Russia proposed more than three years ago that Syria’s president, Bashar al-Assad, could step down as part of a peace deal, according to a senior negotiator involved in back-channel discussions at the time.
Former Finnish president and Nobel peace prize laureate Martti Ahtisaari said western powers failed to seize on the proposal. Since it was made, in 2012, tens of thousands of people have been killed and millions uprooted, causing the world’s gravest refugee crisis since the second world war.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/15/west-ignored-russian-offer-in-2012-to-have-syrias-assad-step-aside

Western fools! Now who is it who is making things in Syria harder again? Now who should we blame for 250,000 dead and a massive refugee crisis? Who is it who is prefers to achieve their aims using the bloodiest kinds of warfare – negotiations and peace are not acceptable even if getting all of their stated aims handed to them on a silver platter? What is the west’s game anyway? Is it really Assad they want to go, or is it just bloodshed and destruction they want to see in Syria?
Where is slowthrowup and Louis Proyect now, to moan about “Russia and Assad, those tyrants”?
It’s on full display now. The “leaders” of the West are vile and bloodthirsty.

Posted by: guest77 | Sep 16 2015 0:02 utc | 23

@ b: “Unless of course you would not want to disturb the relation with the bloody Egyptian dictatorship.”
Correct b!
For those confused, see post #1.

Posted by: ben | Sep 16 2015 0:30 utc | 25

The Guardian Reveals the West Ignored Russian Offer to Depose Assad in 2012
http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=14729

Posted by: ben | Sep 16 2015 1:38 utc | 27

I’d like to think of the most Pollyanna phrase as the drone strike reigned down from the lethal vehicle. To have the most vertiginous bullshit to project into reality!

Posted by: Jay M | Sep 16 2015 1:47 utc | 29

Consider too that we are talking about an offer being made in Feb 2012. This is well into the war. Just 5 months later, we know the DIA, from their documents, knew that al Qaeda was a major factor, and that the “opposition” was turning to sectarian, genocide to accomplish their aims. Surely they had hints of these incredibly dangerous trends just some months before, no? And that means, that with all these horrible things happening, with all these huge things at risk, knowing that Syria was turning into a sectarian bloodbath lead by the hardest core of the hard core al Qaeda fanatics – they still gave the Russians a resounding “NO” to their peace offer!
What conclusion, then is to be drawn? It is clear: That the West wants to see genocide in Syria, that the West wants to see al Qaeda and ISIL in Syria and spreading to Iraq. That the West wants to see Syria as it is now, destroyed, depopulated, bleeding and its people headed to Europe as refugees. The only conclusion is that the West wants all of these things far, far more than they want “Assad to go”.

Posted by: guest77 | Sep 16 2015 3:23 utc | 31

@31 guest @32 grieved
Although I agree with guest that the goal of US ‘foreign policy’ at this point is the destruction of the nation states of the Eatern Europe, North Africa, South/Central America, and the Middle East which it does not feel it controls, I dont buy this story.
First of all it comes from a Finn.
But more importantly because I think that in 2012 the Russians had not yet discovered the true nature of the Neolibraconian Emperor’s plans. They were slow, as all of us were, to come to grips with the blackhole at the heart of Neolibraconia.
No, the USA wants vassals and collapsed states.
But the mounting pile of corpses of collapsed states, their putrid cell membranes ruptured, spewing forth their broken, devastated contents, now taking their toll among the vassal populations, are beginning to conjure visions of their own fate among the emperor’s vassals themselves.
More and more of them will come to the same conclusion that Russia finally reached, as it watched the US and its European Unit resurrect NAZIsm on its doorstep in Ukraine : there is no future with the aged, mad emperor. He eats the corpses of enemies and friends alike.
They are all beginning to look at the mad, emperor himself and are furtively sharpening their knives.

Posted by: jfl | Sep 16 2015 8:29 utc | 33

guest77 @23:
Thanks for posting that, should be shouted whereever possible at the invade Syria pundits and lobbyists.
Grieved @31
“The west has been obsessed with the removal of Assad, and the US remains so obsessed. … I think all we can conclude truly is that the US remains fixated on a vision that history is strongly signalling will not happen.”
jfl #32
“No, the USA wants vassals and collapsed states.”
Because it thinks it can (and because it is grossly anti-intellectual), the U.S. has decided to discard reality in its drive for complete world dominance. We know the famous quote from the Bush era a-hole disparaging ‘reality-based’ analysis, and some thought that was neocon craziness, but it was in fact the permanent bipartisan empire machine expressing its new truth.
But, the problem with discarding reality is that it only works _after_ you’ve attained complete world domination. So, the US world domination effort is failing, and quicker than we might expect, looking at the immense present-day economic and military power of the West.
Anyway, in the post-reality age you can’t think too deeply about why the US is making some seemingly nonsensical move, like overthrowing an Assad or Saddam Hussein who were and would be imperfect but on the whole very ‘good’ US allies. Or 10-15 years ago alienating a Russia that at the time wanted to be brought into the Western financial/economic empire in the form of joining the EU. There is no ‘deep game’ here, these acts are stupid and nonsensical because they _are_ from any ‘Great Game’ strategic perspective. In ‘post-reality’ land, US crazies/strategizers freely believe without bothering with evidence that Russia, Iran, China, and ten or so other non-vassal states occupying the center of Eurasia and oil-rich southwest of Asia are all on the precipice of catastrophic failure and capitulation to ‘our’ Western bankers and foreign policy schemers.

Posted by: fairleft | Sep 16 2015 11:13 utc | 35

james @ 24: Kinda’ miss slothrop, but, the names change, the game is still the same, attack the messenger, not the message. This blog has always had ” the you know whos”, and, it’s an “election” year in the US, so excpect it.
I post this again, as a public service:
http://21stcenturywire.com/2014/03/01/paid-govt-and-corporate-internet-trolls-are-real/

Posted by: ben | Sep 16 2015 12:44 utc | 37

USA is a great power and we can screw up on a larger scale than that. Wedding parties? How about a civilian jetliner? Shooting them down and getting away with it marks your presence in the top tier.
Announcing super duper evidence collected by electronic means and refusing to show to anyone? Ah, it ads some spice to one of the jetliner affairs, but in 21st century, any police department in USA (and elsewhere) can do it. A policeman in San Antonio killed a man standing with hands up from a pretty safe distance, but the police claims that another video shows that he had a knife in his hand. But no details about that knife (like size, from what spot it was recovered if it was recovered) nor the video will be shown, so we will just have to trust that the police legitimately killed the guy. This is not the best possible illustration, but the story from the past week. So of course Egypt denies that the valiant helicopter crew did anything improper. But this is tricky. Tourists will start asking what is the extend of the open season for tourists (hunters should still spare them if they are within 300 ft of human habitation, but this was open desert).

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Sep 16 2015 15:09 utc | 39

What a bunch of baloney. Only a useful idiot or an agent provocateur would call President Sisi a “bloody dictator”. It’s Morsi, a British-created Muslim Brotherhood (freemasons) stooge (just like Erdogan is for imperialistic “divide and conquer”) who shed blood and lusted for more when called and prepared for war against Syria and all Shias (not so hardto lookup for somebody who really cares for the truth). As a result a known and respected Shia cleric was brutally murdered in Egypt just before the only sane people in that country got rid of that Morsi inhumane, treasonous monster. Morsi also planned to sell the Suez Canal to the Wahhabi dictatorships, take huge loans from the IMF, but luckily for the Egyptian people those disasters were also stopped in tracks.
Just to make things clear read this and try to understand that Sisi is the most staunch ally of Putin in the region, successfully derailing e.g. Saudis plots. Outrageous claims about any Israel-Egypt alliance are obviously just another example of the zionist “kiss of death” propaganda psyop technique.
Al-Monitor: “Russia and Egypt’s ‘new partnership’

Between Feb. 9 and 10, Russia’s President Vladimir Putin paid an official visit to Egypt, thus reciprocating an August 2014 Russia visit by Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi. Shortly before Putin’s trip, Moscow’s analyst community suggested that the Russia-Egypt relationship might be elevated to a strategic partnership. The makings of such a shift included the parties’ shared positions on a number of regional issues; closely aligned interests (particularly on fighting international terrorism); a successful track record of bilateral cooperation on various fronts; and a strong personal bond of trust between respective leaders.

Posted by: ProsperousPeace | Sep 17 2015 0:00 utc | 41

@42 guest

Those were years where people’s view of their government were reversed 180 degrees. Wether people understood all of the “inside baseball” of it or not, they mostly got that they were being lied to and people were getting killed. And they threw the brakes on to a remarkable degree … until Reagan institutionalized America’s background fascism.

And what intervened? The ‘oil crisis’ of 1973. Prior to that people laughed at economic insecurity. Nobody’d think twice about walking of one job and taking another one, if they felt like it. The economics went south thereafter, and along with the economics the ‘luxury’ of self-determination and ‘morals’.
It’s worse today. Not a peep today. Long lines to be a drone pilot, or to build the cosmodemonic devices. Hey. you gatta make a buck, you know. I do know. We all gotta make a buck. The financial-industrial complex has us all right where it wants us. None of that ‘dissent’ stuff, none of that self-determination stuff.
With the money funneled to the asset bubble that’s keeping the rollers rollin’s high we could have … ‘freedom from want’ in the USA.
And you know who doesn’t want that. Better to burn the money, use it for genocide, than ‘freedom from want’. That’s un-American. The ‘freedom’ they’re into is their freedom to exploit and oppress and then plough the capital gains into more exploitation and oppression.

Posted by: jfl | Sep 17 2015 4:35 utc | 43

○ Egyptians fear Islamist militants gathering on Libyan border | July 13, 2014 |
○ Egypt’s Western Security Concerns

Posted by: Oui | Sep 17 2015 7:40 utc | 45

Why has a new dictatorship,worse than the old,taken over Egypt wo any pushback from the USA?Israel wishes become reality.

Posted by: dahoit | Sep 17 2015 15:23 utc | 47

PP@41
Just what we need another hysterical Revisionist Historian to set the record straight!
You might not know that Putin also struck a huge trade, arms and energy deal with Saudi Arabia, much larger than the Egypt deal. Russia’s new Drone force has Intel Inside and Made in Israel stamped on much of it.
Morsi was going to sell the Suez Canal? That is too ludicrous to contemplate.

Posted by: Wayoutwest | Sep 17 2015 15:47 utc | 49

A@50
Morsi never had control of the Egyptian military so any threats aimed at Assad were rhetorical but he could have supported the rebels. The internal group that was most active and benefited the most from the coup was the falool, business and political power brokers from the Mubarak regime. They did have outside support from the Saudis and Israel.

Posted by: Wayoutwest | Sep 17 2015 16:46 utc | 51

During the reign of HRC at State, she supported the Muslim Brotherhood to chagrin of Saudi Arabia. Support for MB meant support for Qatar, Turkey and Hamas in Gaza. Morsi allowed Islamists to infest the Sinai and become a threat to Israel as history proved correct in terror attacks in Sinai and near Eilat. Turkey’s Erdogan supported the arms shipments from Libya, funded by Qatar, to cross the border into northern Syria. Thousands of global jihadists followed the same route to cross into Syria.
The economic might of the Egyptian armed forces was never questioned under Morsi. Fortunately, Morsi was just a puppet for the extremist leadership of the Muslim Brotherhood. Simply look at the history of MB terror for the last 70 years in Egypt. In the past the MB leaders found exile in the Gulf States and Saudi Arabia welcomed them. When the guests showed their true intent, the MB was banned in the Gulf States except for Qatar – see the Thani regime.
With the fall of Morsi [thanking Allah] the MB alliance was defeated and the main Gulf States propped up the Sisi military dictatorship with billions. The feat of widening the Suez Canal inside 12 months will mean a lot of revenue for the state.
The US wasn’t happy to see the fall of Morsi … simple historic fact. The division of the Sunni Gulf States with the MB alliance meant a division in the opposition rebel forces fighting in Syria against Assad. That is the main reason the Geneva talks with the UN and with support of Russia failed to find a diplomatic solution in 2012. HRC was a complete failure as architect of the interventions in Libya and Syria. The White House, State Department, the Pentagon and the National Security Council have no coherent policy for the Middle East, especially for the sectarian wars in Iraq and Syria.

Posted by: Oui | Sep 17 2015 19:14 utc | 53

“Morsi’s shortfall was probably over Palestnians” – as I understood, though I didn’t follow any closer than anyone else here, was that he was pretty bad on the tunnels and the Rafah Crossing. Not as bad as Sisi, but neither friendly nor supportive towards the Palestinians.

Posted by: guest77 | Sep 18 2015 2:20 utc | 55

almost forgot h/t https://twitter.com/leithfadel

Posted by: ruralito | Sep 18 2015 2:54 utc | 57