Why be cynical about this? Just think of the better cell phone that could come from Obama's new out of office agenda. Oh wow, would they develope a better flat screen TV. Maybe a TV that would get all the NFL games at the same time...oh wait, a hologram TV set. I can't wait better days are finally ahead. Although, I was looking forward to Obama's out of office tell all book, that I was betting on him writing. I lose more bets this way. Seriously he didn't quite come up to many of our expectations, but think about it McCain, Romney??? Don't fret, if you dig into our country's history a bit, you will be relieved to know it has never really been that much different. You see these guys and someday gals when they leave the presidential office, is when they become great. Ronald Reagan is a great example of that formula. Rove once said, 'we create the reality'. Well Rove, and people like Rove 'create the history' too.

Posted by: Joe Tedesky | Aug 17 2015 17:29 utc | 1

JT @ 1: "Rove once said, 'we create the reality'. Well Rove, and people like Rove 'create the history' too."

Yep, bottom line folks. It's Empire people, nothing less,& corporate.
The "Hope and Change" mantra was excellent marketing, but only that.

Anyone, at this point in time, who believes Obama was anything but a shill for the Empire, is seriously naive. Don't ya' just love that upward mobility?

Posted by: ben | Aug 17 2015 17:43 utc | 2

Upward mobility.
Well, in the case of Obama (aka: Obomba) it worked for him. All he had to do is what any good capitalist would do: sell his soul.
That may be too harsh, since it is possible that there was no soul to begin with.
In fact, speaking of souls, I suspect that the lack of care and consideration is due to the fact that the concept of the soul was something people regarded as essential to ones remembrance. While I am an atheist who has no belief in the soul, it is the psychic image of soul that has been lost.
Some indigenous peoples retain something similar to soul ... a sense of collective responsibility, long lost in the west. Sad.
Did anyone read the bit in counterpunch today about 'Europe's forgotten history.'
Obama is the archetype rags to riches.
Ironic that some despise him so since he has done something so many aspire to ... billionaire status.

Posted by: Rg an LG | Aug 17 2015 18:22 utc | 3

Thanks for the *expected* update about Obama's plans for the next 17 months in office, which will serve as his prep work for raking in the Billion$ that were always a part of his Big Plan. In fact, being POTUS was just O'Bomber's First Act. The Real Work begins now... enriching himself beyond all imagainings! Woot!
*
Just following in the footsteps of the Clinton$, of course, who are multi-billionaires now. Whodda guessed? But Hils and Bils have worked "so hard" to "earn" their filthy lucre, and no doubt, Barry 'n Schelle'll work equally "so hard" to "earn" their loot. After all, Barry has not one, but two, beautiful daughters to marry off in overly garish weddings. We certainly don't want the first daughters to have anything but the most over the top weddings evah, now do we??

Posted by: RUKidding | Aug 17 2015 19:30 utc | 4

May the war criminals choke on the blood they spilled.

Posted by: Some Guy | Aug 17 2015 19:37 utc | 5

I'm with Some guy above.

This presidential retirement plan for Obama is an attempt to replicate the crime Lord syndicate that is the Clinton foundation.

Posted by: tom | Aug 17 2015 20:20 utc | 6

hey, but Bernie'll wash all this muck off the deck, right? too bad we're on the titanic.

Posted by: lindaj | Aug 17 2015 20:24 utc | 7

Worse than bush. how are black folks doing under obama? Well, their annual incomes are lower than under bush and now they are suffering from increased white-racist police violence across the country. Obama is just another white-racist republican...

Posted by: james k. sayre | Aug 17 2015 22:22 utc | 8

Clinton Millions - billions certainly. and Uncle Tom Oilbomber and family will get their seats at the big shot white people table. They've done a great job. Not unlike heck-of-a-job Brownie Katrina FEMA Director.

The Puppet Masters in each case ordered, "Bury those motherfcking poor people. Make sure that they either believe in sparkle ponies or you've rendered them too tired to fight and too broken to rise up".

Still, no one can top the Bush Crime Family. Deeper tentacles cannot be found in recent American political history.

Posted by: fast freddy | Aug 17 2015 22:23 utc | 9

"he advisers said [the director Steven] Spielberg was focused on helping to develop a “narrative” for Mr. Obama in the years after he leaves office."

I'm astonished, but I guess I shouldn't be. Obama® is the state-of-the-art public relations creation. The real Obama is... who knows. But the public Obama is a creation by the best the USA has to offer in this sphere. The political equivalent of the F-22.

I see more about Obama's taste in movies and music than I hear about his policies. Its an attempt to put a smile overe the bomb,s threats, pollution, and basic unfairness of the USA.

I can't say it really works too much. Invariably when I overhear a conversation about the man among any race, he is viewed as, basically, a disappointment - though he is rightfully defended against the boneheaded attacks coming from the right.

About all on could put on his tombstone would be "he didn't start an air war against Syria" assuming that holds up. That's the single valid "accomplishment" of his presidency so far as I am concerned. Everything else is fluff, failure, or unacceptable violence.

I do think though that, if one were to count up his coups and military actions, he'd be up there with the most aggressive presidencies this country has ever had.

Posted by: guest77 | Aug 18 2015 2:26 utc | 10

lindaj @ 7 said: "hey, but Bernie'll wash all this muck off the deck, right?

Who knows? But, if he's heard, the message may resonate with the American sheeple. Not that anything rank and file workers want is important in America today. $ uber alles.

Posted by: ben | Aug 18 2015 3:13 utc | 11

The President was working very late in the Oval Office one night, when suddenly the Devil appeared in a cloud of smoke. "I'm sorry to startle you, Mr. President, but I've come here to make you an extremely lucrative offer. I will grant you more wealth than you will ever be able to enjoy in your lifetime, and the same to your children, and their children, for seven generations. All you have to do in return for this wealth is to sign all of my trade agreements, which will allow my corporations to plunder every nation, to poison the earth's oceans, skies, soil and groundwater, to melt both polar icecaps, and unleash the full fury of Hell on 99% of the world's people."

The President thought for a moment, scratched his chin, and gave the Devil a skeptical look. "I don't get it," he said. "What's the catch?"

Posted by: PhilK | Aug 18 2015 4:04 utc | 12

@12 - great one!

@ben - My issue with Sanders is that he's sort of a reverse Ron Paul: the domestic policies he is suggesting are excellent, but his foreign policy is pretty dismal. When I have heard him discuss it, he just sort of quietly say that some US foreign policies are wrong-headed and then moves on. But he frames it in the familiar "GWOT" War on Terror b.s.

These are just general impressions, I've haven't thoroughly researched him, just watched the YouTube videos of him tha tI could find."

Posted by: guest77 | Aug 18 2015 4:42 utc | 13

Whatever Obama turns out doing, its is going to be very interesting and watched closely. He isn't going to go home and take up some little hobby. Who knows, maybe he'll start working for H. Clinton should she win. I wonder if that's ever occurred, an ex-President in the cabinet?

I hope his visit of prisons lately is some indication that he'll focus on some of the serious issues the US has here at home (oops, here we go with that "hope" again..."). Not that he's shown much interest up to now... so who knows.

Posted by: guest77 | Aug 18 2015 4:52 utc | 14

only one play left .......zero population growth 2020-2030

worldwide enforced,un endorsed,country by country,city by city,woman by woman

no exceptions problem solved

first move

introduction in every country a referendum for woman only to vote to enforce law combined with education of what is at stake

Posted by: mcohen | Aug 18 2015 11:54 utc | 15

#8 "Obama is just another white-racist republican"

Oh no. He is the head of/the very precise example of the Democratic Party. Twice! And he's following the Clinton Bush grifters playbook almost to a tee.

As soon as people accept without apology or excuses that the system is completely broken, criminals are in charge AND that white. black, brown, red, male, female will all screw the pooch for a few pieces of silver if we let them, the better off we will be.

Posted by: Eureka Springs | Aug 18 2015 12:45 utc | 16

Carter did the same thing and he turned that thing into great works for the meanest among us. Carter was a terrible President, and far more rightwing than Obama.

You don't know what you're talking about, b.

Posted by: slothrop | Aug 18 2015 18:47 utc | 17

At a dinner this year at Spruce, a restaurant in the Presidio Heights neighborhood of San Francisco, Mr. Obama urged technology executives to focus their philanthropic efforts on helping government become more efficient, giving some the impression that the topic would most likely be a theme of his agenda after leaving office.

The NSA are amateurs compard to the Googleplex when it comes to reading the sheeps' gmail (government mail?), tracking the world population, and commidifying the human race. Google spins off billionaires like microsoft used to spin off millionaires, and its reach and competence seem 3 orders of magnitude greater as well.

Google is the corporate personification of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde, just as Barack the Nobel Peace Prize Laureate slash Drone Assassin, Dealer of Death, Devastation & Destruction Obama is the political Jekyll and Hyde reification. They'll make a truly monstrous pairing of souless, nihilist, cyborg creatures.

PhilK is right on @12. Ralph Nader reminds of another founder of Sun microsystems, and of the magnitude of the threat that looms.

Posted by: jfl | Aug 18 2015 19:30 utc | 18

Sanders refused to condemn Israel's war crimes against Gaza, voted to continue funding the Iraq War, voted for the criminal attack on Serbia, is in favor of the alliance with Israel
and obviously, is appreciably to the right of Dennis Kucinich on all these issues.

Posted by: truthbetold | Aug 18 2015 22:21 utc | 19

lindaj @ 7 said: "hey, but Bernie'll wash all this muck off the deck, right?"

Posted by: ben | Aug 17, 2015 11:13:23 PM | 11

This is the exact same retarded crap the Obama Zombies were peddling back in 2008.

Hope and Change, remember?

What crap are they peddling now?

Now its not even Hope and Change themselves, but merely the forlorn Hope the Saunders will be a minor catalyst for meagre Change.

Take the idiot at 11, for example, who it appears is abso-fukin-lutely incapable of learning anything, like, evar!

Its people like him the vote the scum into power, getting conned everytime by cheapo promises that are never gonna be kept anyway.

Coming here shilling for scum like Saunders just because he offers the slightest veneer of a mere hint of "Socialism", and this despite knowing very well that on his votin record Saunders is every bit the warmonger Obama is.

No-account losers like that is what composes the US "left" - cheapo bastards that would sell out the rest of the world just because some obvious Arms Co. pseudo-socialist mumbles a few phrases about da workin folk.

Posted by: blockquote | Aug 18 2015 22:52 utc | 20

I agree with your evaluation of Sanders and his campaign blockquote, but deplore your cheap shots and personal putdowns of individuals.

So why not offer a constructive version of what what you think would be politically expedient these days instead of bashing everything and everyone else's ideas and efforts.

Posted by: juannie | Aug 18 2015 23:34 utc | 21

@21

... because he just comes her to start fights and break threads. He is a troll. Don't feed him.

Posted by: jfl | Aug 18 2015 23:55 utc | 22

Please juannie, can you not recognize the same trolling asshole who always appears here despite the new names? He's produced nothing but cheap shots (aside from his earlier numb nutz 12 year old fascist ranting) so why are you surprised and why bother noting it? Just my suggestion.

Posted by: guest77 | Aug 19 2015 0:02 utc | 23

@17 I disagree. Carter at least tried to reform the CIA. He was the least bad of all post war presidents though all were certainly in charge of the American murder apparatus and used it one way or another. Kennedy we can't be too sure of since he was shot down like "a pimp on saturday night" as Dave Emory puts it.

Posted by: guest77 | Aug 19 2015 0:20 utc | 24

jfl, & guest77,
I guess I am an undying optimist in hoping that anyone can see some glimmer of light and change their ways. I do recognize the same old rhetoric as from the same old disruptor and I am in complete agreement with you about not feeding energy to the like, but I had a lapse. I apologize for my indiscretion but anyway await the possibility of a civil response to my civil challenge. If one is not forthcoming I'll desist.

Posted by: juannie | Aug 19 2015 0:26 utc | 25

Yo Gimp77! How's it hangin?

Dont tell me your still all butthurt over the failure of your laughbly pathetic one man Neo-Stalinist Revisionism Crusade?

Must o got tired punchin his missus

Posted by: blockquote | Aug 19 2015 0:30 utc | 26

21

The idiot at 11 knows damn well what Saunders is, and the interests that stand behind him, and the obvious implacations of that for US Militarism

Yet he still openly pimps for him here because of some moronic guff about "dem dere workin folk" once uttered by the alleged "socialist".

So sure, lets just say "F the future victims of an MIC-backed Prezident Bernie Saunders as long as the bens of this world get a job that pays union rates"

Solidarity, brothers.

People like that can just go fuk themselves.

THEY are the problem.

Posted by: blockquote | Aug 19 2015 0:38 utc | 27

I thing that parents have to worry about is finding good husbands for their daughters. I would recommend a nice big foundation with lots of charity oriented meetings with tycoons and their offspring. Isn't what Clintons did?

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Aug 19 2015 1:01 utc | 28

@ben - My issue with Sanders is that he's sort of a reverse Ron Paul: the domestic policies he is suggesting are excellent, but his foreign policy is pretty dismal.

My impression, and correct me if I am wrong, is that he tries to avoid this issue altogether, although he may get testy when people shout at him, and then he shouts that poor little Israel has a right to defend itself. My take is that it is highly debatable who suffered a worse holocaust: Paraguayans or Jews. And how can Paraguay survive safely today? By not waging a simultaneous war with Argentina and Brazil. Or even with just one of them. Works wonders, and no nukes necessary!

Incidentally, Bolivia also got whacked, loosing the coast to Chile and northern jungles to Brasil, and afterwards there was a war to decide who is the worst looser and who is not. It was one of the cleanest wars ever. A former German general commanded one side, and a Russian one the other, so it was also a re-match for WWI. natives got conscripted, dressed in proper uniform and sort-of-up-to-day armed, and they they fought each other according to all rules, without any mistreatment of civilians or POWs. Alas, the theater of war was devoid not only of civilians but also of surface water, so more soldiers died of thirst than from bullets. So Paraguay won a strip of waterless forest.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Aug 19 2015 1:16 utc | 29

C'mon who needs discussion of the Oblamblam turning into the same old partisan shite here at MoA.
The divide between rethug & dem is purely theatrical - there is no substantive difference between the policies, either mob enact once their 'works' are considered in light of basic human needs. Food, shelter etc. Yet we see posts dancing on about the criminality of Clintons and Obama while ignoring the awful acts of the sleazebags from the other half of the empire party.
Equally we see the credulous wasting energy discussing Bernie Sanders when it has been obvious from Sanders' political history that he is just performing his usual role, that of dog whistler.
Sanders says the things that disaffected former dem voters want to hear, statements that are critical of dem leadership, and many fall for it even tho Bernie avows he will back Hillary to the hilt when the time comes.
Bernie gets people back into the dem fold, then 'loses honorably' so that a proportion of the formerly disillusioned who have had their beliefs reignited by Bernie stick around to volunteer for a past her sell by date slapper whose chief interest is amassing sufficient power and material resources to buttress the dynasty the Clintons believe they have founded. They plan to be around long after the pretense of elections has disappeared.

The only knowledge to be gained from oblamblam's shameful act is something that many of us already understood back in '08 - that it is impossible to effect any meaningful change to amerika's awful trajectory of blood and greed by ticking a box aka 'democracy'.

I've been following the Jeremy Corbyn thing in England where Corbyn, an aspirant for leadership who only got onto the ballot as a result of cynical PR by some of the neoliberal cabal installed by Blair as 'the future of the party' has been creaming it.
The leadership election was made a popular vote by the neolibs when the Labour party was shrinking fast and those sleazebags imagined they could control the outcome.
However hundreds of thousands of 'new' members (New in quotes cos many are former Labour Party members and the rest are previously politically disengaged young people) have signed up most for the express purpose of voting for Corbyn who they see as a not being part of the cabal.
He voted against the illegal invasion of Iraq, opposes the waste of building a new fleet of nuclear submarines and preached engagement as an alternative to conflict in dispute settling.

Of course if Corbyn wins that is only the beginning. He probably does walk the walk, but given that most of the MP's he will lead oppose everything he stands for, he is going to have to be very smart to stay in front without being compromised.

I am not sure that it is possible, but on the other hand given that it seems likely the only way of derailing a serious challenge for control of the UK by a non-neoliberal will be to carry out a particularly heinous stunt of some sort or another, Corbyn's leadership could still be useful as a means of educating young people about the realities of a system which refuses to accept anything which reduces elite control.

Posted by: Debs is dead | Aug 19 2015 2:20 utc | 30

love seeing some old regulars in the same thread, juannie, sloth, Debs. out here the Big Sky is filled with smoke. I guess it could be worse, the rivers could be orange.

Posted by: lizard | Aug 19 2015 2:36 utc | 31

Hiya Lizard - sorry to hear about the bush/wildfires - among the most obvious signs of climate change cos the effects of so many & frequent fires across those areas where such events were formerly a once a century aid to diversity is devastating. But I'm sure you're well aware of that. Take care of you & yours bloke.

Posted by: Debs is dead | Aug 19 2015 5:51 utc | 32

I went to the 28K Bernie Sanders gathering in Portland a couple of weeks ago as my first foray into American politics at the age of 67. I reported that experience in a comment at MoA as a datapont related to the 2016 "election" kabuki experience.....where is the study done to compare "election" spending to cost of addressing social ills?

I don't have kids but feel for the future of our species. I keep "hoping" for structural change in our inheritance and accumulating private ownership of things form of social organization in my lifetime. I am not optimistic but happy to see the level of awareness rise and hope to see humanistic evolution in my lifetime.

I was deluded by Obama until he sold out to the bankers and their owners early in his first term and have been critical since. Hillary is being set up to provide that same level of delusion by the political ranting of Bernie about national issues. There is probably not much difference between them when it comes to international military/empire support issues.

I am one of those that believes that Fukushima has the potential for being a human extinction level event sooner than climate change. If you want to talk about where the priorities of our textual white noise should be, I would encourage others to write Fukushima related questions to their elected officials like I have months ago (with no response to date).

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 19 2015 6:32 utc | 33

30

Several decades ago Jeremy Corbyn was handed a dossier by some Social Workers.

This dossier contained details of and evidence against a dangerous ring of very well-connected peadophiles

What did Jeremy Corbin do with this information?

Abso-fukin-loutely nothing.

Jeremy Corbyn is controlled by the same gang of MI5-connected kiddie-fukers that promoted the war criminal Tony Blair.

Doesnt matter how "socialist" the more gullible people around here like to pretend he'll be, he will do exatcly as his peadophile controllers want him to do, because clearly he is compromised by the kiddie-fukers too, just like Blair was, and may even be a kiddie-fuker himself. (Just like Tony Blair probably is).

Posted by: blockquote | Aug 19 2015 6:56 utc | 34

Jeremy Corbyn AND organised Peadophile rings

Chabad-Islington Rabbi Mendy Korer (left) and MP Jeremy Corbyn (right).

In the UK, Jeremy Corbyn hopes to become the leader of the Labour Party and then Prime Minister.

In 1992, Corbyn was given clear information about child abuse rings operating in his borough but he reportedly took no action.

In 1992, social workers gave Jeremy Corbyn information about the organised child abuse in his Islington constituency, in London.Employees of Islington Council came to Corby's constituency office with reports of child sexual abuse, and child trafficking, both linked to Islington Council's children's homes.

The social workers also reported to Corbyn on a child brothel called 'The Hot House'.

The social workers also reported that Islington children were being trafficked abroad and that some had apparently been murdered.

Liz Davies, one of the five social workers who acted as whistleblowers, says: "We had been seeing so, so many 12 to 15-year-olds who were being sexually exploited that we could hardly believe it..."We discovered that they were being driven around the country in vans."I'd personally identified at least 61 potential abuse victims in our small patch of Islington."

Liz davies says: "We were in his office for more than an hour. We shared all of our concerns, including our fears that local children had been murdered by abusers."

Corbyn said he would talk to Virginia Bottomley, the Health Secretary.dailymailDemetrious Panton (above), a survivor of abuse, told Corbyn in August 1992 that "very bad things had happened" to him when he'd been living at an Islington care home several years earlier.

Liz Davies and a colleague informed Margaret Hodge (Margaret Oppenheimer), the then leader of Islington Council, about the child sexual abuse.Hodge ignored their concerns.

Hodge (Oppenheimer) later became one of Tony Blair's government ministers. Blair lived in islington.

In Islington, child abuse rings were operating within all 12 of the borough's children’s homes.The Labour-run council employed known paedophiles, shredded key documents and dismissed media reports of the child abuse as 'gutter journalism'.The Labour-run council sacked whistleblowers.Liz Davies and other whistleblowers received death threats.Almost 30 council employees accused of child sex crimes were allowed to take early retirement.They were not subjected to formal investigations or referred to the police.

Liz Davies and her colleagues expected Corbyn to take action.

Corbyn never wrote to Davies, or telephoned, to acknowledge their meeting.

Corbyn never thanked her for blowing the whistle."After that meeting, we never heard another thing," says Davies. "There was no letter. No phone call. I never, ever saw him speak about it."In fact, whenever I saw Jeremy afterwards ... I’d always go up to him and say: 'This scandal is still going on, Jeremy.' He'd be very polite, but he never seemed to do anything."

23 years later, Liz Davies has yet to see Corbyn criticise the local politicians, council workers and political allies who allowed the child abuse to happen.

.Labour MP John Mann published an open letter accusing Corbyn of 'doing nothing' to prevent the abuse.

Mann wrote: "Your inaction in the 1980s and 1990s says a lot."In 1986, Corbyn attacked the Conservative MP Geoffrey Dickens for drawing public attention to 'a child brothel on Islington's Elthorne housing estate'.

According to Corbyn's supporters: "Jeremy Corbyn called for an independent inquiry into child abuse in Islington at the time, and has taken this strong line ever since."Did Corbyn call for an inquiry into the Islington scandal in the early Nineties?Did he take a strong line over reports of child abuse in his borough?

Liz Davies can't remember Corbyn calling for an independent inquiry.

The Mail has been unable to find newspaper cuttings, recorded public statements, or extracts from Hansard, in which Corbyn calls for an independent inquiry.

A spokesman for Corbyn has been unable to identify when or where or when Corbyn might have made such a call for an inquiry, or where a record of it might now be..

Posted by: blockquote | Aug 19 2015 7:36 utc | 35

Even the willfully blind, or even the "just plain stoopid", should be able to see that Jeremy Corbyn is already compromised by the kiddie fukers that run Britain

Posted by: blockquote | Aug 19 2015 7:37 utc | 36

http://orientalreview.org/press-release/
Sputnik International’s political analyst and journalist, Andrew Korybko, just published his first book on “Hybrid Wars: The Indirect Adaptive Approach To Regime Change”.
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His detailed work proves that Color Revolutions are a new form of warfare engineered by the US, with everything from their organizational makeup to geopolitical application being guided by American strategists. But unlike earlier researchers who have touched upon the topic, Andrew takes his work even further and uses the latest examples of the War on Syria and EuroMaidan to argue that the US has deployed a second, more dangerous step to its regime change toolkit.

Hybrid Wars, as he labels them, are when the US meshes its Color Revolution and Unconventional Warfare strategies together to create a unified toolkit for carrying out regime change in targeted states. When a Color Revolution attempt fails, as it miserably did in Syria in 2011, the backup plan is to roll out an Unconventional War that builds directly upon the former’s social infrastructure and organizing methods. In the case of EuroMaidan, Andrew cites Western news sources such as Newsweek magazine, the Guardian, and Reuters in reminding everyone that in the days immediately prior to the coup’s successful completion, Western Ukraine was in full-scale rebellion against the central government and the stage was set for an Unconventional Syrian-esque War in the heart of Eastern Europe. Had it not been for the sudden overthrow of President Yanukovich, the US was prepared to take the country down the path of the Syrian scenario, which would have been its second full-fledged application of Hybrid War.

Andrew’s revolutionary research ultimately shows that it was the US, not Russia, which spearheaded the use of Hybrid Wars, and that given his proven findings, it’s irresponsible to even call Russia’s alleged involvement in the Ukrainian Crisis a ‘hybrid war’. In fact, the US is far ahead of any other country in practicing this new method of warfare, as no other state has attempted a Color Revolution thus far, let alone transitioned it into an Unconventional War when their initial regime change plans failed.

Posted by: okie farmer | Aug 19 2015 8:19 utc | 37

re 35 Corbyn and Paedophile rings

You forgot to note that all the reports are out of a notoriously right-wing newspaper, the Daily Mail, which happens to be edited by an unpleasantly vicious bugger I used to know. It's a right-wing rag that is out to get Corbyn by any means. As you will remember, sexual innuendoes are a major attack theme for the establishment, as Craig Murray has frequently reminded us, particularly in the case of Assange.

I'm surprised you bring that kind of dirt onto MoA, and peddle it is as truth.

Posted by: Laguerre | Aug 19 2015 9:01 utc | 38

Posted by: Laguerre | Aug 19, 2015 5:01:27 AM | 38

Seriously?

Just Fuk off, you peado-enabling twat.

Partisan party-men like you are exactly why the establishment has been getting away with these kiddie-fuking antics.

anyone who knows anything about Islington, care Homes and Paedophilia, knows that virtually every senior Labour figure in North London was well informed about the rampant child abuse - and all of them, Corbyn included, did absolutely nothing about it.

and then when anyone mentions it up pop paedo-enabling scum like La Guerre, who want to pretend it is all some "vast Right Wing conspiracy" cooked up against the poor little innocent paedo-enabling scum that constitute the leadership of virtually all political parties in the UK.

Anyone that wants to paint this as a "Left vs Right" issue is a liar, plain and simple.

Posted by: BLOCKQUOTE | Aug 19 2015 9:10 utc | 39

You forgot to note that all the reports are out of a notoriously right-wing newspaper, the Daily Mail,

Posted by: Laguerre | Aug 19, 2015 5:01:27 AM | 38

I didn't forget to note it at all - the phrase "The Mail", well known to apply to the UK Daily Mail, appears in the text several times, as do the words "DailyMail" which very obviously can be taken to be a very clear and open reference to the actual Daily Mail.

anyone can see that. so I have no idea why you would invent the claim that I did not mention the Daily Mail.

That you would so quickly invent such an easily disproven lie like that, so blithely, tell us a lot about you.

Posted by: BLOCKQUOTE | Aug 19 2015 9:25 utc | 40

34

The Presidio where Spielberg and Obama are meeting for their grand soiréeis the same The Presidio where the most appalling Kinder-pederasty case in US history *almost* made it to trial, ...but because it involved high military, everyone was allowed to be re-assigned. They closed The Presidio, and turned into a resort.

Nice.

"...keep attention on Mr. Obama’s future and to ensure that his final 17 months in office, barring crises, serve as a glide path to his life as an ex-felon in Uruguay with the Bush's, the Clinton's and the other neo-fascist war criminals."

His last act in office will be to sign the TPP Global NeoLiberal Trade Pact and undo efforts to limit soon unlimited H-1B and H2 worker visas program the 'also rans' put together, between now and when President Bloomberg is inaugurated, as yet another war breaks out with EurAsia, and the Estados Unidos is locked down forever behind a high-tech wall of constant droning surveillance, and bail-ins.

Enter Google OnHub technology, with the ability to upload your bank accounts and passwords and sexting selfies to a 'Cloud' hovering somewhere east of Tel Aviv.

Hope is Chains~!

Posted by: Chipnik | Aug 19 2015 10:12 utc | 41

37

2008 was Estados Unidos' 'Red-White-and-Blue' color revolution, aka "Hope and Change™", right after the 2001 Shekhinah takeover of Estados Unidos government by Right-Wing Bankers, Generals and War Criminals. And then the O-bots solemnly led USAryans by their bleeting noses to the financially-engineered ovens of destitution and penury.

Take your pick, you can have Freedom Isn't Free (to starve behind some dumpster), or Resist, and be locked in a dungeon in chains.

Historians will talk about the O-bots, the way we talk about the Pharaohs today, and you know, Obama looks exactly like Bubba Ho Tep, same coloration and bones~!

Posted by: Chipnik | Aug 19 2015 10:33 utc | 42

re 39

Just Fuk off, you peado-enabling twat.

Good, we're into logical analysis, aren't we?

Pulling a smear-story out of the Mail, and forgetting it's only in a notorious right-wing rag, is really an intellectual monument. You must be the author of that blog you cited.

While also forgetting that every politician who has been in power in Britain (and probably everywhere) is guilty of much, much, worse in hiding paedophilia. They have the power to drag their colleagues before the courts, but funnily enough don't. Really every other British politician you ever heard of, is guilty of this. Corbyn is not in power, and has never been. So you're just smearing him.

I'm not surprised. There's a big move in all the media to break Corbyn. Obviously this trolling has even reached MoA.

(PS for the others: it may be that paedophilia is a peculiarly British fault, as all the elite were in single-sex boarding schools. I haven't followed it elsewhere, but you don't hear much of it here in France)

Posted by: Laguerre | Aug 19 2015 11:30 utc | 43

#43 laguerre

instead of b/b as in bush/blair

it is the c/c clinton/corbyn next down the alaphabet

this combo will be looking to pressure the i/P stalemate so expect the smears hard and fast in the next few months

remember winston churchill remarked that the only tradition the british navy had was rum and buggery.....the skittles are begining to skatter...started with gary glitter,rolf harris,now heath,cliff richard even a hint of royal family,prince andrew.....all were first class,top tier self entitled scum who will go to jail

Posted by: mcohen | Aug 19 2015 12:11 utc | 44

and while the stench of diarrhea is still hanging around, my most sincere apologies to jlf, guest77 and especially ben, as well as many others. I'm feeling quite contrite for my enabling lapse.

Posted by: juannie | Aug 19 2015 13:10 utc | 45

http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.fr/2015/08/wilkerson-who-makes-us-foreign-policy.html
Wilkerson: Who Makes US Foreign Policy
Part of what I teach is how since World War II and the acquisition of this enormous power by what in essence is the new Rome in the world, the United States, part of the shift that takes place in manipulating and managing that new power is a centralization of foreign policy away from the old cabinet places where it used to take place, most prominently through the Foreign Service and through the secretary of state, to the White House and to the creation of the 1947 National Security Act, the National Security Council.

So if you ask me pro forma where does it exist today, it exists more in the National Security Council and its staff than it does anywhere else, certainly anywhere else in the cabinet. So what I'm saying is it's centralized in the White House.

But what does that mean in terms of, I think, your real question, who's behind the White House, and who's therefore behind U.S. foreign policy, more or less? I think the answer today is the oligarchs, which would be the same answer, incidentally, ironically, if you will, for Putin in Russia, the people who own the wealth, the people who therefore have the power and who more or less (and I'm not being too facetious here, I don't think) buy the president and thus buy American foreign policy. So that's as succinct an answer as I can give you and touch on a few historical points...

And you could say in some respects this shadow behind the power that makes money off war, period, no matter who's the belligerent, makes money off that volatility now, especially with computers that are able to assist them in doing so, like currency manipulation, for example, or just general speculation. With computers you can do it at lightning speed and you can do it in a nanosecond, and you can make billions in that nanosecond, and you don't care about what you're doing to the real economy, because you're raking in the dough.

Lawrence Wilkerson

Posted by: okie farmer | Aug 19 2015 14:02 utc | 46

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 19, 2015 2:32:52 AM | 33

Agree with your post. As far as the US "election" is concerned, it's "any port in a storm" mode. With Mr. Sanders, some addressing of the relevant issues are better than none. The only thing that can resonate is a mass movement from the workers. Can Sanders ignite such a happening? Who knows? As I said before, maybe. The option of curling up in a fetal position and doing nothing, and supporting no one, isn't an option. The Obama administration has provided many lessons for some Liberals. Buyers beware, where Mr. Sanders is concerned.
The attacks against any candidate, mounted by the Empire's minions, will speak louder than anything the candidates say.

Posted by: ben | Aug 19 2015 15:42 utc | 47

With Mr. Sanders, some addressing of the relevant issues are better than none.

Posted by: ben | Aug 19, 2015 11:42:00 AM | 47

Thats exactly how you retards ended up with Obama. Now you want to serve up yet another Turd-soup of a fake pwogwessive.

People like you never learn.

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43

Nice to see the paedo-enabler "Laguerre" still shilling for the kiddie-fukers.

Note that other than screaming "smear" he refuses to actually address any of the allegations. Whether it comes from the Mail or not is immaterial, and pathetic attempts by liars like the paedo-enabler above, to dismiss the news entirely, are typical of idealogical turds like the aforementioned, who care more for party allegiance than they do for anything else.

Pure scum.

This is how the paedo-enablers get away with it. Partisan Scumbags like "Laguerre" try to pretend its all a "left vs right" issue.

It is not a left/right issue and any one claiming it is, is a liar, plain and simple.

Posted by: blockquote | Aug 19 2015 17:21 utc | 48

Basically the knuckle-dragger Left, represented by Laguerre and ben, are saying that they'd find Corbyn acceptable no matter what he did in the past.

As long as the bens of this world think he's left-wing enough, then Corbyn could probably stick his dick in anything, 9 or 90, human or beast, and the creepy laguerre's and ben's of this world, would still pimp for him.

Posted by: blockquote | Aug 19 2015 17:27 utc | 49

"Just Fuk off, you peado-enabling twat."

Posted by: Laguerre | Aug 19, 2015 7:30:12 AM | 43

Yes i've done the logical analysis and you, sir, are undoubtedly a paedo-enabling twat.

Posted by: blockquote | Aug 19 2015 17:31 utc | 50

PS for the others: it may be that paedophilia is a peculiarly British fault, as all the elite were in single-sex boarding schools. I haven't followed it elsewhere, but you don't hear much of it here in France)

Posted by: Laguerre | Aug 19, 2015 7:30:12 AM | 43

You are either incredibly ill-informed, or incredibly dumb.

Heres just one example

http://www.ibtimes.com/strange-case-frederic-mitterrand-frances-most-famous-alleged-pedophile-845349

Posted by: blockquote | Aug 19 2015 17:47 utc | 51

Btw, despite some very lame attempts by the dishonest to pretend it's all a bunch of lies cooked up by the Daily Mail, it aint just the Daily Mail

Here's Corbyn's fellow Labour MP, John Mann : AN OPEN LETTER TO JEREMY CORBYN ON CHILD ABUSE

In 1986 MP Geoffrey Dickens raised serious concerns about child abuse in Islington.

[Jeremy Corbyn's ] response was to complain to the Speaker about him visiting your constituency without informing [Corbyn]

I have faced such complaints myself in pursuing corruption issues.

There are many people who also rubbished the idiosyncratic Mr Dickens. They have been proven to be wrong, indeed I have just received details of another list of names of alleged and now proven paedophiles that Dickens provided to Leon Brittan as Home Secretary, not related to Islington, but further corroboration of the scale of the cover up that has taken place.

On February 17th 1986 [peadophile enabler Jeremy Corbyn] had called in Parliament for Geoffrey Dickens to “unreservedly withdraw his allegations of the existence of child brothels in the area (in Islington) and make a public apology.”

Paedophile enabler Jeremy Corbyn, MP, further called Mr Dickens ‘irresponsible’’.

Posted by: blockquote | Aug 19 2015 18:32 utc | 52

ben @ 47 says:

The option of curling up in a fetal position and doing nothing, and supporting no one, isn't an option

well, in regard to the electoral process i'd say it's the ONLY option. this never ending farce of weighing the pros and cons of one corrupt candidate or another who all strive for a place at the same trough where they thrive on their knees regurgitating nothing but stale platitudes and moth-eaten lies is getting real old. i mean why flog a dead horse? and it is dead...what we smell now is just the gangrene setting in.

these shitstains aren't capable of leveling with the people.

but i do agree with you that curling up in a fetal position isn't much of an option. i mean, there may not be jobs for nearly enough people(there NEVER will be), but there's certainly plenty of work to do.

Posted by: john | Aug 19 2015 20:32 utc | 53

So, b. Your blog--one of my favorites--is being hijacked by a semi-literate troll. Have you no recourse?

Posted by: chuckvw | Aug 19 2015 20:41 utc | 54

New names, same old game, attack the messengers...Yawn.

Posted by: ben | Aug 19 2015 22:27 utc | 55

b,

Yeah, I'm with chuckvw & ben and I know many others here. Whether it's blockquote, LMAO, hu bris, hmm, foff, or glib, or whatever other choice troll names I've missed or forgotten, we implore you to monitor your blog more thoroughly to quash these disruptors at the offset. There's too much good discussion here to be continually beset by the lowest vitriol.

Slothrop, you're a welcome relief.

Posted by: juannie | Aug 19 2015 22:52 utc | 56

From "Entitlement" category of the What's Left Archive.
For Whom the War Bill Tolls
This 2011 article focuses on the 1%-controlled scam known as Tax Scales.
You don't need to be Albert Einstein to figure out that when people earning $13,000 p.a. are compelled by law to pay 17.4% of that trifling sum in Fed, State and local taxes, while people 'earning' $1,300,000 p.a. pay 29%, that the starving poor (whose pay scales are set by the 1%) are being taxed infinitely more savagely than the bloated wealthy (who own the govt).
https://gowans.wordpress.com/2013/01/01/for-whom-the-war-bill-tolls/#comments

This current article is also relevant to the thread...
The Dung Heap of Procedural Democracy August 18, 2015
It debunks Paul Krugman's recent and embarrassingly partisan views on why all of the blame for Amerikkka's economic woes can be laid at the feet of the Repugs and none at all with the Dems (Krugman's prefered Party).
https://gowans.wordpress.com/2015/08/18/the-dung-heap-of-procedural-democracy/

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 20 2015 2:38 utc | 57

So

You guys are A-ok with Paedophiles and paedophilia in general, just so long as those practicing it are what you might call "genuine Left wingers"?

Have i got that correct?

Posted by: blockquote | Aug 20 2015 5:46 utc | 58

Whats really downright hilarious is that you morons sit and whine about the demise of the left, and how the quality of the candidate is risible.

Then along I come, point out that your fave Labour candidate, Jeremy Corbyn MP, is a paedophile-enabler.

Not only does this not trouble you turds in the least, but the usual idiots actually decide to double-down on the idiocy, ranting about the Mail and "right wing" smears, and also inventing outright lies, and easily disproven lies at that, to accuse me of.

Then the biggest idiot of them all pronounces that I'm "shooting the messenger" even though in this scenario it's I whom am the messenger.

You lot are so inept and clueless, not to mention openly dishonest, it's pathetic

And still you morons wonder why the Left is so unpopular

Laughin out loud

Posted by: blockquote | Aug 20 2015 6:09 utc | 59

Whats really downright hilarious is that you morons sit and whine...
...
Posted by: blockquote | Aug 20, 2015 2:09:13 AM | 59

FAIL.
That's not even mildly hilarious compared with the spectre of a self-appointed intellectual giant wasting so much time insulting so-called morons.
Why bother?

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 20 2015 6:55 utc | 60

Yet another one, not in the least bit troubled at Jeremy Corbyn MP, paedophile-enabler (at the very least), being presented here as the saviour of "the left" in the UK.

Mr Corbyn's paedophile-enabling past is as nothing, compared to the fact that the turds now running interference for him at Moon of Alabama consider him to be "genuine"Left wing, and therefore something of a God, not to be judged by standards of mere mortals.

Posted by: blockquote | Aug 20 2015 7:23 utc | 61

@54 @55 @56

Just do as I do, click on comments, scroll to the bottom, and read - or not - from the bottom up. I can remember many days when I skipped two or three times what I read ... and today it's easy ... just one pseudoonym. Often times he'll use 2 or 3 ... talk to himself. Either way it doesn't take long to master the drill. And eventually b sweeps up all the trash and tosses it in the bitbucket.

Posted by: jfl | Aug 20 2015 8:44 utc | 62

The spurious allegations retailed by our Single Malt Snob and all-round Tory Toff do not seem to have gotten any traction across the pond. Mann's letter is from almost a month ago. It seems a piece of the rubbishing of a radical by the highly pro-Tory UK media.

Mann's letter does not seem to have affected support. See this report on recent polling from The Independent.

Corbyn responded immediately, this item in the Daily Mail reports that Mann is not a disinterested campaigner for children's rights. He's to be shadow Home Secretary, in the unlikely event that Yvette Cooper becomes Labour leader. The account notes that Mann allows Corbyn has the 'highest personal integrity and ethics'. Don't think we can say that about Mann.

Good news -- he racks up more Frequent Crier Bogus Miles on his Clown Car Club Black Lead Card. I think he's eligible for a free one-way ticket to Islington.

Posted by: rufus magister | Aug 20 2015 11:52 utc | 63

What more could you want.....an enabler,a little penny pinching politician,all we need now is a skeleton in cupboard courtesy of ex wives or call girl

Posted by: mcohen | Aug 20 2015 21:11 utc | 64

Some wisdom gleaned from the early days of the internet:

Do not feed the trolls.

Posted by: jawbone | Aug 20 2015 22:49 utc | 65

I became curious in what happens to be, despite the crude statement of it, a fair question of politics, and gave a fair and largely serious answer. Corbyn can't help but be an improvement. No surprise to see Fleet Street flinging it, hoping to see what sticks.

So I pitched a little inside to keep him off the plate. Assuming he's has not already been banned.

Posted by: rufus magister | Aug 21 2015 1:06 utc | 66

I don't give a toss if someone wants to come in here and sledge Corbyn but what I find truly offensive is when some small dicked borderline personality disorder sufferer spews out the same bullshit over and over again, wanting to close down all discussion while he/she/it rants and abuses other posters who express a different opinion.
Myself I would have enjoyed a bit of jaw-jaw about Corbyn to grasp what others, many of whose opinions I respect, think about the bloke but that was side-lined by a phallicly challenged sociopath who imagines there's a gain to revealing to a few hundred people that he/she/it is a total dickhead.

I'm still cautious about Corbyn but if I lived in England I'm pretty sure I would have signed up and voted for him.
Not so much because of him as after all he is still a politician, so much as what he represents - someone close to englands seat of power who openly rejects the same old neoliberal Oxbridge indoctrinated thinking, someone who has managed to bypass the usual media filters to talk directly to the citizens and by doing so has gained a big chunk of support in a very short period of time.

The event is revealing of itself, as is the fact that so many citizens about whom most in power, especially the neolibs, had imagined were battered into such a sense of hopelessness and disillusionment that they had been rendered irrelevant. Yet those people have stood up & revealed themselves to be hugely relevant.
That this occurred so soon after the Tsipras sellout is especially interesting.

The belief that the media has effectively camouflaged that sellout and the Corbyn supporters are unaware of it, doesn't hold water because a huge chunk of Corbyn's support comes from politically engaged and aware citizens who know only too well what has just happened in Greece.
Despite that people are showing they are prepared to fight their own struggle.
Yet there is no cause for celebration, I haven't been to europe for a while and as bad as things are here for battlers, it seems likely they are n times worse in Europe. The determination of these citizens is a function of the desperation austerity has wrought upon them.
And that genuinely surprises me as I has always thought it would take a while longer for the greedies to forget that their continued ascendancy depends on them showing sufficient restraint. Moving too quickly when oppressing the majority is a fatal error, most effective oppression is undertaken incrementally, so that the people keep finding themselves one or two steps behind the play as they belatedly react to what has just happened. Pulling out the rug too quickly can be problematic as citizens may grab at defences not yet dismantled as they fall.

The greedy scum had a long wait before they could slip the thin end of their wedge between the people. That was an impossible task as long as there were enough people still alive who remembered what happened when untrammelled capitalism was allowed to get set.

A European war killing close to 100 million which lasted thru the first half of the 20th century. The only relief was a worldwide depression in the intermission. As long as those who remembered those horrors were among us the greedies had no chance - so they waited until death thinned out the citizens.

Yet now they are screwing themselves stupid by going for too much too soon.
As the Corbyn resurgence demonstrates, we the people haven't quite been robbed of all means of resistance yet.

Still no one ever proved the rich were smart just full of low cunning, and greed.

What do others reckon? As far as the drongo goes we're all too aware of his/her/its shallow preoccupations so there won't be any direct response from me no matter what excrement dipstick united has baited the hooks with.

If others get to express themselves without having to dodge turds on the rug, to paraphrase 'giap, then maybe we can have a bit of a whip round for a magnifying glass and tweezers so the dingbat in question can jerk off properly and cease being such a pain.

Posted by: Debs is dead | Aug 21 2015 6:42 utc | 67

i think that no decision regarding the iran deal can be made until september the 15........several factors are at play

china/n.korea
yemen/sudan
ukraine/georgia
turkey/syria

at this time the usa is is well placed to move on several fronts and will need all the allies it can muster

Posted by: mcohen | Aug 21 2015 11:59 utc | 68

nice dog ...spaniel,s make good companions,what will you name it....rachel perhaps?

Posted by: mcohen | Aug 21 2015 12:02 utc | 69

@ #67.
If you like a hearty laugh, read read this from Gilad Atzmon
Jeremy Corbyn and the Jews
http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/2015/8/17/jeremy-corbyn-and-the-jews

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 21 2015 15:57 utc | 70

I see that some Brits are just as quick as some Yanks to put on their blinders, when their White Lefty Moses is exposed to scrutiny. The important thing is 'winning' and a government wide cover-up is just yesterdays news, except maybe to the now grown children who were exploited.

Posted by: Wayoutwest | Aug 21 2015 17:24 utc | 71

Wayout at 71 -–

I’m sure you must have thoroughly researched the situation and just neglected to post the links for your findings.

I have one here you may have missed. The events happened under the Thatcher Government, which actively hushed things up. Blair later made the local Islington official responsible a Minister.

So I’d say, it’s the Tories and “New Labour” that should take the hit.

And this all really is old news. The item cited above is from the spring. Here’s WaPo on it last year.

I’m not surprised that, with these spurious accusations not getting any traction, Fleet Street is now trying “anti-Semitism.” That when you think that the Palestinians are human beings, have rights, and should get some solidarity and respect. And that maybe BDS is a good idea.

Mann, of the "Open Letter" cited above, is also chair of the All-Party Parliamentary Group against Antisemitism. Isn't that convenient?

So Wayout, who do you support in the Labour primary then? Some Great White Caiphas?

Posted by: rufus magister | Aug 22 2015 2:03 utc | 72

[email protected]

I don't really care who advances in the UK misleadership class, the UK public will decide who will fool and lie to them this time.

The organized child sex abuse crimes in the UK never ended even after the coverup and few if any people involved were prosecuted. It's true that the Thatcher government covered up these crimes and protected high and low government officials who were involved but Corbyn was the MP from Islington and he attacked the whistleblowers from that time. There is another child abuse inquiry happening now in the UK and this time they had to import a foreign investigator to handle the probe.

Posted by: Wayoutwest | Aug 22 2015 17:00 utc | 73

Wayout at 73

You don't care, but go out of your way to bust on a candidate who was some very minor player? Not like a Home Secretary, like Brittain was. And since you've covered it up, why not carry on?

The mildly, social-democratically delusional Corbyn would be an improvement over the capital-crazed Cameron.

Not that I have a vote, just an opinion. One of those inalienable rights, with life and liberty; it's small part of my pursuit of happiness.

Posted by: rufus magister | Aug 22 2015 20:33 utc | 74