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July 29, 2015
Open Thread 2015-30
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Yanis Varoufakis faces criminal prosecution over clandestine ‘Plan B’ currency plot Posted by: okie farmer | Jul 29 2015 18:29 utc | 1 http://yanisvaroufakis.eu/2015/07/29/treason-charges-what-lurks-behind-the-bizarre-allegations/ Posted by: okie farmer | Jul 29 2015 18:34 utc | 3 “Treason” against the Financial Powers-That-Be, I would say. Never treason against Greece. The reactionary forces are clearly calling in all their markers. john helmers latest Posted by: james | Jul 29 2015 19:34 utc | 5 varoufakis remains mired to a way of thinking that got him personally to this point, the ‘Europeanist’ and being part of the Eurozone he speaks about is hog wash. Greece was European before the sham EU project. the stakes were clear: austerity/debt colony or sovereignty. Posted by: thirsty | Jul 29 2015 19:42 utc | 6 Yep to Thirsty @ 6. Posted by: tom | Jul 29 2015 20:53 utc | 7 I thought Varoufakis’ plan was OK. He had to come up with something, in the case where submission to the Troika’s diktats didn’t work. Posted by: Laguerre | Jul 29 2015 21:03 utc | 8 TRNN Posted by: okie farmer | Jul 29 2015 21:56 utc | 9 The ‘euro no matter what’ pseudo-left and Varoufakis himself are trying to manage him into leadership of the fake opposition to the now obviously rightist Syriza. The question for Varoufakis is: why wasn’t there a Grexit Plan B? He’s another betrayal waiting to happen. Posted by: fairleft | Jul 30 2015 0:58 utc | 10 In 2014, Chile produced 895,000 tonnes of salmon and used 563,200 kilograms (1.2 million pounds) of antibiotics” Posted by: DePassage | Jul 30 2015 2:39 utc | 12 http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/technology/249521-cisa-the-dirty-deal-between-google-and-the-nsa-that-no-one-is Posted by: ouruboros | Jul 30 2015 2:43 utc | 13 Posted by: ouruboros | Jul 29, 2015 10:43:15 PM | 12 Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jul 30 2015 3:36 utc | 14 13 Posted by: Chipnik | Jul 30 2015 9:33 utc | 15 http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/07/30/us-mideast-crisis-syria-kidnapping-idUSKCN0Q40OG20150730 Posted by: okie farmer | Jul 30 2015 9:53 utc | 16 Posted by: okie farmer | Jul 30 2015 10:05 utc | 17 Israeli Drone Strike Kills 3 Popular Fighters in Syria’s Quneitra Posted by: okie farmer | Jul 30 2015 11:38 utc | 18 More volunteer indiscipline. Mukachevo-2: Aidar Battalion takes over a village
That would be wholesale, Counterpunch discusses volunteer indiscipline at the retail level.
Glory to the heroes…. CP’s assessment of the overall situation? Ukraine: Close to the Edge. Posted by: rufus magister | Jul 30 2015 12:03 utc | 19 https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/07/30/syri-j30.html Posted by: okie farmer | Jul 30 2015 12:07 utc | 20 Obomba calls Iranian regime? odious.The guy can’t do one thing right wo tripping over Ziodogs. Posted by: dahoit | Jul 30 2015 14:02 utc | 21 Story at Counterpunch about how Hayden covered up the known location of hijackers in San Diego.They say they couldn’t trace phone caller,when the phone company does by billing.They say they called a safe house in Yemen in 2000 and say it was a Bin Laden safe house.Wasn’t he in Afghanistan by then? Posted by: dahoit | Jul 30 2015 14:06 utc | 22 IMF Staff nixes support for third bailout w/ debt restructuring: IMF cannot join Greek rescue, board told
EZ/Schauble have promised debt reform (now in writing) but apparently want it subject to ‘conditionality’. Essentially, drip..drip..drip debt relief. As I have said, Tsipras/Greece must remain viligent and INSIST upon appropriately massive debt restructuring and a detailed implementation plan. Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jul 30 2015 16:36 utc | 23 Yes, Jackrabbit. Posted by: okie farmer | Jul 30 2015 19:01 utc | 25 http://mondoweiss.net/2015/07/amnesty-committed-retaliation Posted by: mcohen | Jul 30 2015 21:19 utc | 26 Yanis Op-Ed: The Defeat of Europe Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jul 31 2015 0:39 utc | 27 At today’s State Presser, several questions were asked about Clinton’s emails, but not one was asked about the attempted contacts from Saif Qaddafi to Clinton then and State’s reaction to the kangaroo court’s death sentence for Saif Qaddafi this week. Posted by: Rusty Pipes | Jul 31 2015 0:52 utc | 28 @26
The ‘Iran Deal’ and Israel’s full court press over it are only making more enemies for the fundamentalist regime in Tel AViv.
Poll: Most Americans oppose compensating Israel for Iran nuclear deal
Posted by: jfl | Jul 31 2015 1:45 utc | 29 MH370 Malaysian airlines that vanished is now back in the news … supposedly a piece of the plane that may be part of the plane has been found by the locals off the African mainland in Reunion. Posted by: thirsty | Jul 31 2015 3:31 utc | 30 Bailout Money Goes to Greece, Only to Flow Out Again Posted by: okie farmer | Jul 31 2015 10:26 utc | 31 @26, don’t be too hard on Weiss. He’s OK with your farkukte “State.” Thinks it can be reformed. Posted by: ruralito | Jul 31 2015 14:37 utc | 33 http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/07/29/422410/Iraq-Turkey-Abadi Posted by: okie farmer | Jul 31 2015 17:39 utc | 34 Remember Darfur? Evil Janjaweed muslims killing poor black christian babies? Glamourous celebrities expressing outrage? yadidda yadidda? Of course you do. Posted by: ruralito | Jul 31 2015 20:32 utc | 35 29 Posted by: Chipnik | Jul 31 2015 22:09 utc | 36 32 Posted by: Chipnik | Jul 31 2015 22:18 utc | 37 Saudi drones launch 3 airstrikes on northwestern Yemen
The US’ Saudi training mission in Yemen continues, familiarizing the Saudi terrorists with the full US panoply of terror. Posted by: jfl | Jul 31 2015 23:10 utc | 38 #33 Posted by: mcohen | Jul 31 2015 23:26 utc | 39 #36 Posted by: mcohen | Jul 31 2015 23:41 utc | 40 @juliania
Indices for voter satisfaction in Greece. Via the accursed Naked Capitalism links. Tsipras is facing a meeting of the Syriza Central Committee.
Ekathimerini is a little sharper in Tsipras embraces troika while quelling Greek party rebellion.
Let’s get a rebuttal, straight from the horse. Tsipras: People don’t want Grexit – but it is still on the table! gives highlights of a radio interview. He doesn’t actually mention Grexit.
I see no evidence of any domino effect, personally, except of cashiered Cabinet dissenters. I presume Tsipras is trying to say “on the side of” when he says “battle with workers.” But I think the reality of his actions puts him “fighting against” the working class. One can only assume he will continue his mitigation efforts with the same ardor, resolution and results he has shown to date. Posted by: rufus magister | Aug 1 2015 0:19 utc | 42 #39:
The moderator in question, annie, does an awesome job at MW. She’s also a longterm commenter at MoA in good standing. Posted by: Rusty Pipes | Aug 1 2015 1:36 utc | 43 rufus@42- well only time will tell re the domino effect. Posted by: Nana 2007 | Aug 1 2015 1:47 utc | 44 @ mcohen Posted by: crone | Aug 1 2015 2:17 utc | 45 #43 Posted by: mcohen | Aug 1 2015 4:08 utc | 46 Nana2007 at 44 — Posted by: rufus magister | Aug 1 2015 4:48 utc | 47 rufus@42 Posted by: Jackrabbit | Aug 1 2015 5:13 utc | 48 rufus@47- you don’t mention Italy, Spain, Portugal, Ireland, et al. And this bail out deal isn’t even done yet. You speak as if something decisive has occurred. This is an unfolding spectacle of the lawlessness of the EZ- good on Syriza. Posted by: Nana 2007 | Aug 1 2015 6:00 utc | 49 rufus@47-sorry you do mention Italy and Spain, with a questionable okie doke. C’mon… Posted by: Nana 2007 | Aug 1 2015 6:06 utc | 50 rufus@47- and yeah, you’re pretty pessimistic for a teenage communist…. Posted by: Nana 2007 | Aug 1 2015 6:12 utc | 51 #43 rusty pipes Posted by: mcohen | Aug 1 2015 7:04 utc | 52 Nana2007 at 49-51 — Posted by: rufus magister | Aug 1 2015 15:50 utc | 53 @juliania
Attacks on Yanis/Tsipras and the Greek people (profligate, untrustworthy) are reminiscent of ‘blame the victim’ tactics used time and time again to focus attention away from establishment injustice/wrong-doing. In this case: flaws of the Eurozone, undemocratic institutions, bank bailouts. Posted by: Jackrabbit | Aug 1 2015 15:59 utc | 54 rufus @53 Posted by: Jackrabbit | Aug 1 2015 16:31 utc | 55 And what about the results of the Central Committee Meeting? Let’s see how an inclusive movement works.
I’m not a Maoist myself, but lets give props where they’re due — the 17 members of the Central Committee associated with the KOE resigned during meeting.
Politics is the continuation of economics by other means. It’s time for some politicking in Greece, IMHO. Posted by: rufus magister | Aug 1 2015 17:29 utc | 56 rufus @56 Posted by: Jackrabbit | Aug 1 2015 19:30 utc | 57 follow-up to @54 Posted by: Jackrabbit | Aug 1 2015 19:33 utc | 58 @57 JR at 57 — Posted by: rufus magister | Aug 1 2015 22:14 utc | 60 rufus@53- with Italy , Spain, Portugal, and the rest of southern EU debt ridden negative growth countries twisting in the wind, I wouldn’t be so cavalier about predicting who will come to power, or the amount of political will involved. Posted by: Nana 2007 | Aug 2 2015 3:18 utc | 61 Nana 2007 @60 Posted by: fairleft | Aug 2 2015 5:10 utc | 62 16 June 2015
Consultants in Argentina and the Plutocrats Republic owned the OPM? That’s what having root access means. I take the fact that it is explictly stated that one consultant was ‘in’ Argentina and that ‘his co-worker was physically located in the’ PRC to mean that the one was not Argentine and the other was not in fact a citizen Chinese citizen … otherwise they’d have said made a point of saying so … they made a point of not saying so. Being on a shoestring might have made ‘monetizing’ the information to which they had access tempting, no?
‘… it’s premature to blame China, which may have been ‘ … but wasn’t, is again the clear implication to me.
You’d think an outift with a name like the National Security Agency would be responsible for such a massive breach of national security, wouldn’t you … but you’d be wrong. Not only has the NSA put itself in charge of breaching all our security individually, the director of National intelligence is ‘hats off’ to whomever did it – pulled the theft, one thief admiring the work of another – and, oh yeah – it was China. Asserts the Clapper.
They have no proof. Or they have proof that it was not China.
But Clapper is going to use his own history of mis- and malfeasance as an excuse to start a cyber war with China. In the interest of national insecurity. Looking forward to the revolution … of the door between government ‘service’ and the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, the reward from the TNC cyber arms merchants on the other side of that door. As is customary in the toilet bowl culture of Washington DC. fairleft@61- I wasn’t talking exclusively about people on the left, I’m talking about the hope the general public gets fed up and starts organizing- this is already evident in Greece. Why do you insist on making a definitive judgment on a fluid situation? this deal isn’t done yet. Posted by: Nana 2007 | Aug 2 2015 8:06 utc | 64 jackrabbit at 57 —
What sort of self-respecting left party lacks local organization? Capital has the mass media and institutions, the masses have the streets and their organizations. And couldn’t they have defied the Troika and called new elections anyway? That the EU is an “unaccountable, amoral, technocratic, plenary regime” is sadly, not late-breaking news. Posted by: rufus magister | Aug 2 2015 14:45 utc | 65 Nana 2007 @63: The Syriza leadership capitulated. Sometimes things are what they obviously seem to be. Syriza is the next in the now long line of fake-left Europeanist ‘euro uber alles’ middle class fools. They have no fluidity in bottom line matters. Posted by: fairleft | Aug 2 2015 16:36 utc | 66 From a Politico post: Posted by: Chipnik | Aug 3 2015 9:43 utc | 67 Worries about the coup potential of Pravyi Sektor are spreading. See this from the Financial Times, via New Cold War.
Rostislav Istchenko considers the geopolitical situation, arguing It will be worse in liberated Ukraine than in Crimea.
So patience, comrades, we’ll have to pace ourselves. Posted by: rufus magister | Aug 3 2015 12:16 utc | 69 Fairleft @65
Posted by: Jackrabbit | Aug 3 2015 15:39 utc | 70 Jackrabbit at 70: “Yanis is trying to rally other European countries against ‘Ordoliberalism’ by pointing to how Greece is being treated. Why do critics on the left ignore his efforts?” Posted by: fairleft | Aug 3 2015 19:16 utc | 71 Jackrabbit @60 part 2: Posted by: fairleft | Aug 3 2015 19:48 utc | 72 @Fairleft
At one point Yanis called on Merckel to give a speech in Athens about ‘hope’. He did this, I think, to highlight that what the Troika was offering from February-June offered NO hope of ever breaking free of austerity and debt peonage. It seems to me that with the right debt relief and investment, Greece could have hope of being free of the Troika. Posted by: Jackrabbit | Aug 3 2015 23:50 utc | 73 These two accounts point to escalating violence in Kharkov. The office of a local Party of Regions/Opposition Bloc lawmaker was attacked, after clashes between Bloc supporters and the Pravyi Sektor. This latest violence apparently took place after the renamed party was denied a place on the coming election ballot. Posted by: rufus magister | Aug 4 2015 3:34 utc | 74 From Red Star Over Donbass comes this interview with Victor Shapinov of the Ukrainian leftist group “Borotba”. He sees the Donbass uprising based in the ‘Soviet world’ as against Ukrainian nationalism. While I think he understates the role of Ukrainian nationalism on the junta side, I believe him to be correct in stressing the Soviet (as opposed to Great Russian) origins of the Peoples Republics.
There you go again, with that optimism of the will.
Flores hopes to forestall this by the publicity.
So spread the word, Barflies. Only you can stop false flag attacks. Friends don’t let friends detonate dirty bombs. And all Bar Patrons must check all thermonuclear devices with the bartender. This applies especially to all rhetorical WMD as well. Posted by: rufus magister | Aug 4 2015 23:52 utc | 75 Time and circumstances do not permit the fuller consideration of this item, from the Jacobin via NC’s Links. It poses the question of Turning “No” Into a Political Front: Some lessons from Syriza — and where we go from here. Stathis Kouvelakis, a Syriza CC member from Left Platform, begins by discussing the difficulty in measure a defeat begins with identifying exactly who or what was defeated.
The rest of his essay seems a pretty thorough discussion of the problems facing the left there today. Posted by: rufus magister | Aug 5 2015 0:14 utc | 76 Uh, a link would be nice. https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/08/tsipras-debt-germany-greece-euro/ Posted by: rufus magister | Aug 5 2015 0:15 utc | 77 MH-17 investigation is an injustice to all the relatives of the 298 victims
Rather than an exception to the rule of ‘impartiality, isn’t the MH-17 investigation just one more instance of the EU/NATO judging in its own cause, and favor? Posted by: jfl | Aug 5 2015 0:39 utc | 78
The US is emptying Latvia and moving the Ukrainians in? Be a tough fit, won’t it? Maybe just enough for a Maidan? But they’ve already had their Maidan, haven’t they? Years ago.
Are those ‘paid by Putin professionals’ … or just ordinary citizens of the Baltic states concerned about the abuse of their nations by the US and its European Unit? Posted by: jfl | Aug 5 2015 1:02 utc | 79 rufus@77- thanks for the link. This is what I’ve been saying all along- let the Greeks decide the terms of defeat and the response. Posted by: Nana 2007 | Aug 5 2015 6:06 utc | 80 further to 76 —
Add the restraining influence of the state apparat and business community, and you get into the dead end Syriza found itself in.
But since Kouvelakis foreswears any leading role for Syriza or even Left Platform, (vs. it having a “central role to play” as the best organized fraction within Syriza), it’s a little hard to see the struggle suggested by the program comes to fruition. Posted by: rufus magister | Aug 6 2015 0:19 utc | 81 A few interesting developments in the borderlands today.
To be read in conjunction with earlier “fears” by the MSM of a “dirty bomb.” Illegal sale of Uranium-238 prevented in Western Ukraine. Posted by: rufus magister | Aug 6 2015 2:48 utc | 82 *The US containment policy against China includes not only holding of old alliances but a creating of new. In the recent strategy Washington pledges to strengthen cooperation with six long-standing allies: Australia, Japan, New Zealand, the Philippines, the Republic of Korea, Thailand and lists eight new partners: Bangladesh, Brunei, India, Indonesia, Malaysia, Micronesia, Posted by: denk | Aug 6 2015 16:59 utc | 83 Conn Hallinan: Posted by: Willy2 | Aug 7 2015 8:14 utc | 84 I’m not sure what to make of it, it does seem an odd invitation. It was issued by Jaromír Štětina, a far-right MEP from the Czech Republic.
Who is Jaromír Štětina, is he a reasonable proxy for DC? Sputnik’s short item on the invite quotes Czech political scientist Jan Miklas on Štětina’s background:
The Prague Post reports the invitation as well, and includes further information on Štětina’s activities. “Volunteer battalions are a significant, real political and military force in eastern Ukraine. Not to talk to them and not to know who they are means not to be interested in the solution to the conflict,” he told Czech news agencies. The article also notes that he has made several visits to the Ukraine, with Pravyi Sektor, Azov, and Donbas volunteer battalions on the itineraries, and that Štětina remarked that all were represented in the Rada.
I think it worth noting that Wikipedia reports Štětina’s leading role in the so-called Prague Declaration, the center-piece of the ongoing efforts to draw a false equivalence between the Soviets and the fascist Reich. Posted by: rufus magister | Aug 8 2015 15:25 utc | 85 Like others, I’ve had problems with links to Sputnik. I’ve seen some folk recently posting them, so here it goes. Posted by: rufus magister | Aug 8 2015 15:28 utc | 86 And I wonder, who’s trying to pretty up Singapore’s medieval city-state? HuffPost is all in. Posted by: rufus magister | Aug 8 2015 16:09 utc | 87 Ukraine and World Weekly SITREP August 2-9, 2015 by Baaz
Can that bit about NATO be true? Posted by: jfl | Aug 9 2015 23:53 utc | 88 The war crimes are not news, reporting by the MSM is however. From Gordon Hahn via Russia Insider, German Mainstream Media Report on Kiev’s War Crimes. He believes that the recent crackdown on some battalions means Kiev is prettying up it’s record, though he wonders why Pravyi Sektor has not been implicated.
We all know how Washington likes it’s “plausible deniability.”
‘Cuz what you don’t know can’t hurt you, right? Or rather, it won’t hurt the reputation of our political class. Posted by: rufus magister | Aug 10 2015 12:21 utc | 89 Stability is the holy grail in Neolibraconia …
No change here. The ‘humanitarian situation’ has been catastrophic for months. The UN has come to regard that as ‘normal’ in the brave new USA/KSA/ISIS dominated world of the Middle East. The UN averts its eyes. No change. Everything is ‘stable’ there …
No is Yes … in the brave new world. And – after prodigious expenditures of hot air by the Greek political class – No remains Yes in Greece. The world averts its eyes. No change. Everything is ‘stable’ there as well…
The rally was to mark the assassination of an unarmed young black man by an aggressive white cop in Ferguson a year ago. Another unarmed young black man was assassinated by another aggressive white cop in Ferguson during the rally commemorating last year’s assassination this year. ‘Post-racial’ America averts its eyes. No change. Everything is ‘stable’ there … Posted by: jfl | Aug 11 2015 13:24 utc | 90 78 yrs old 小苍桂子 was only eight when the unitedsnake dropped two abombs on her home town hiroshima, even tho she lived to tell the story, she suffered great pain thru most of her life coz of the black rain that soaked her body after the explosion. Posted by: denk | Aug 11 2015 16:28 utc | 91 Lost in all the fun with Seattle, Syria, and the Sickening Seventeen reality TV extravaganza, you may not have noticed the “frozen war” in the Ukraine has warmed up a tad. Here’s a display of captured equipment by the DPR ‘Viking’ battalion. According to the Kyiv Post the Ukraine claims to rebuff separatist offensive. But the Ministry of Defense is claiming some heights nearby were taken. Posted by: rufus magister | Aug 12 2015 0:06 utc | 92 Abadi announces reforms aimed at “decentralization” of Iraq
Death, devastation, destruction … and dissolution continue. No change. Things remain ‘stable’ in Syria and Iraq. Posted by: jfl | Aug 12 2015 1:08 utc | 93 |
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