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April 25, 2015
Open Thread 2015-19
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Definite : Argentina chooses camp towards liberation from the money market tyranny Posted by: nmb | Apr 25 2015 18:17 utc | 1 First Poland closed the boarder for the russian bikers, the Czecks are also discussing it and newst the office of counceler Merkel asked to cancel the visas. What are they afraid of. The don’t mind parades of tanks through these countries, but are afraid of approx. 20 bikers without weapons. Posted by: Fran | Apr 25 2015 19:02 utc | 2 This link belongs to my comment at 2: http://tinyurl.com/q5973gc Posted by: Fran | Apr 25 2015 19:04 utc | 3 Have you seen this sickening crime? Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 25 2015 19:07 utc | 4 I’m sure by now people have heard about the severe earthquake in Nepal. I read it was 7.9 on the Richter scale. Images from Kathmandu show a lot of collapsed buildings and rubble, including Durbar Square. No word from outlying villages. Posted by: Maxcrat | Apr 25 2015 20:54 utc | 5 @5 Hitchhiked from Europe to India in the sixties. Across Turkey, Iran, Afghanistan. Hard to believe now. Yes I’m that old. Posted by: dh | Apr 25 2015 21:07 utc | 6 dh – Thanks! By the time I got to India and Nepal in 1979/80 everything had pretty much gone to hell. We were originally going to follow the main E/W route down through the Khyber Pass but the Iran hostage situation and the Soviet invasion of AF in December 79 forced us to reroute. Posted by: Maxcrat | Apr 25 2015 21:19 utc | 7 I stayed in the Gulhane Hotel in Istanbul. Used to have breakfast in the pudding shop. I hear it has become a big tourist attraction. Posted by: dh | Apr 25 2015 21:29 utc | 8 With the Saudi’s al Qaeda at ‘play’ in Yemen could their ‘crack’ ISIS unit be far behind?
Posted by: jfl | Apr 25 2015 21:46 utc | 10 @4 Posted by: chuckvw | Apr 25 2015 21:50 utc | 11 @7 I was just trying to remember the name of the pie shop when I read your post. I was in Kathmandu summer of 1975 for a bit. There was also a good used book store where I bought a set of Ross MacDonald mysteries. Walking back from the monkey temple in the rain one afternoon, I stopped to chat with a Tibeten woman, who spoke some English and talked to me about being an outsider in Nepal, what her life was like. Two young Nepalese boys, also English speaking, offered to be my guides, walked with me to Patan and showed me around. Amazing times. Posted by: Hamburger | Apr 25 2015 22:07 utc | 12 dh & Maxcrat Posted by: john | Apr 25 2015 22:37 utc | 13 dh, max, ‘burger — Stop!!! You’re making me jealous…. The closest I can get is that I lost my virginity to a woman whose late first husband was at Woodstock. She was into the Dead, I was catechized but never confirmed. Posted by: rufus magister | Apr 25 2015 22:40 utc | 14 It seems as though the Israelis are pushing for a war this summer, being Isis and Nusras official airforce once again!!! News seems to be pretty tight lipped, apart from Israeli Media barking in their articles, they have struck Syrian and Hezbollah targets in Qalamoun once again !!! Posted by: Deebo | Apr 25 2015 22:44 utc | 15 /Israelis are pushing for a war this summer/ Back online from off-grid RL… Posted by: Vintage Red | Apr 25 2015 23:59 utc | 17 @rufus magister, 173 (from Open Thread 18): Posted by: Vintage Red | Apr 26 2015 0:01 utc | 18 @Lone Wolf, 163 (from Open Thread 18), on the “devolutionary politics” of the Kiev junta:
Posted by: Vintage Red | Apr 26 2015 0:07 utc | 19 PS to above response to LW@163 (Open Thread 18): Posted by: Vintage Red | Apr 26 2015 0:16 utc | 20 typo in Calgacus quote @19—should be: Posted by: Vintage Red | Apr 26 2015 0:28 utc | 21 They Don’t Want You to See TPP text! Demand to Here! Posted by: Tom Murphy | Apr 26 2015 1:44 utc | 22 Vintage at 18 — Posted by: rufus magister | Apr 26 2015 1:46 utc | 23 @17 The Der Spiegel article b references in the other thread depicts the “moderate” rebels as secular even as late as 2013, the moderate Syrian-dominated insurgent groups as vastly outnumbering the foreign-dominated ISIL troops, the ISIL strategy in Syria being launched by its Iraqi Baathist mastermind in Summer 2012 (when Al Bagdadi claims that he was sending fighters in as early as summer 2011). One of its major claims is that the SAA had an understanding with ISIL (rooted in Iraqi/Syrian Baathist intelligence cooperation as early as 2003 in stovepiping jihadists to attack American forces in Iraq) not to attack each other, but to focus on “moderate” rebels. (Also, while Bagdadi has had elaborate computer generated business plans for marketing ISIL, the article’s mastermind had hundreds of pages of handwritten plans which have fortuitously been handed over to Der Spiegel reporters by competitive “moderate” rebel groups):
Posted by: Rusty Pipes | Apr 26 2015 1:52 utc | 25 04/25/2015 Posted by: Fete | Apr 26 2015 2:14 utc | 26 Lots of trash pseudo-punk getting posted here. Time for some good mainstream pop: @jfl, 24: Posted by: Vintage Red | Apr 26 2015 6:30 utc | 28 OK, I finally listened to James Brown’s version of Sex Machine, even though I wrote here that I wasn’t going to do that. Sorry, but this funk thing strikes me as bullshit and kitsch, like polkas or mazurkas. And I am not afraid to say that, since Obama has done a good job of delegitimizing American black culture, as far as I can tell. I voted for Obama the first time around (but not in the primary) and for Jessie Jackson twice in primaries. I think that demonstrates that I don’t care about a political candidate’s “race”. But blacks evidently do. I voted green in 2012, because it had become absolutely clear that Obama is a rabid psychopathic fascist. Yet blacks continued to vote for Obama. Why is that? The only reason I can think of is that they determine their vote on the basis of the race of the candidate. And Obama isn’t even black in the American cultural sense of the word, since his ancestors had absolutely no experience with American slavery. Thus, Afro-Americans vote for Obama solely on the basis of the color of his skin. @Deebo@15 Posted by: Lone Wolf | Apr 26 2015 6:53 utc | 30 Many Australians have a reason to be ashamed of their right-wing PM Abbott,whose refusal to acknowledge the dangers of global warming puts Australia in a solitary position on the world scene Posted by: brian | Apr 26 2015 6:59 utc | 31 I really love the “Hatton Garden vaults” story. It is so fishy it’s unbelievable! Posted by: Mina | Apr 26 2015 8:34 utc | 32 Monsters of the Market Reminding you that ‘war’ is symptom and ‘capital’ is cause. Understanding distortions in the capital-flow matrix seems to me to be more important than watching the equivalent of a global bar fight, especially as everyone seems to have drunk the Zero Hedge KoolAid, as financial giants seize national gold bullion and bail-in their clients cash accounts. Do you think anyone would care about Ukraine or Yemen, if Bank of America went to -0.05% on Monday? Posted by: NoReply | Apr 26 2015 9:58 utc | 33 @Lone Wolf @30 Posted by: Deebo | Apr 26 2015 10:05 utc | 34 Da’esh has now a TV channel Posted by: Mina | Apr 26 2015 12:59 utc | 35 Demian;Well black people have never had power before,(and of course they really don’t)so they will instinctively back that candidate.I can’t really blame their lack of recognition that he isn’t for them. Posted by: dahoit | Apr 26 2015 13:27 utc | 36 RP@25 Posted by: Wayoutwest | Apr 26 2015 14:02 utc | 37 OK, I finally listened to James Brown’s version of Sex Machine, even though I wrote here that I wasn’t going to do that. Sorry, but this funk thing strikes me as bullshit and kitsch, like polkas or mazurkas. And I am not afraid to say that, Posted by: lol | Apr 26 2015 14:05 utc | 38 Two topics are headlining today’s News in Germany. even in the main media, which finally might wobble Merkels position/seat. Posted by: Fran | Apr 26 2015 15:05 utc | 39 Demian at 29 — Posted by: rufus magister | Apr 26 2015 16:15 utc | 40 @Demian #29 Posted by: ǝn⇂ɔ | Apr 26 2015 16:19 utc | 41 Update on US dollar as reserve currency – this one from 2011 WTO Posted by: ǝn⇂ɔ | Apr 26 2015 16:20 utc | 42 Corporate Media FAILS us (again) on TPP coverage Posted by: Tom Murphy | Apr 26 2015 17:01 utc | 43 There’s some new recordings here – an old John Stockwell and another old Philip Agee talk, as well as some Christic Institute content. It’s all from the late 1980s early 1990s but IMHO it is indispensable in helping us understand how we got to where we are now. It’s all from right when the Soviet Union was turning its back on being a revolutionary power (and thereby kicking out from under itself its whole reason for existing in the multi-national form it had taken… and what would you guess happened a year or two later?). @dahoit #36: @Deebo@34 Posted by: Lone Wolf | Apr 26 2015 19:50 utc | 46 D @ 45 — Sure, he’s head of state now, the “Commander in Chief” of “the Free World.” And yet some folks do in fact hate him even now because he’s black (e.g., some significant faction of the “Tea Party” Rethuglicans). But I’m sure young Barry Choom got enough of it first hand to understand just what genuine American racism feels like. And sometimes, even act accordingly. Posted by: rufus magister | Apr 26 2015 20:04 utc | 47 @rufus magister, 23: Posted by: Vintage Red | Apr 26 2015 20:18 utc | 48 VR — The US punk & new wave scene was more de-politicised, or even totally re-contextualized (see “Rock the Casbah” as the sound track for the defense of Kuwait and the House of Saud). Posted by: rufus magister | Apr 26 2015 20:41 utc | 49 Speaking of Detroit, funk, etc. here’s Was(Not Was) I blew up the United States Posted by: Nana2007 | Apr 26 2015 22:16 utc | 50 Demian: racist, tone-deaf(literally), socially retarded, stuck in the 80s. Should I go on? Please PLEASE stop inflicting your musical ‘knowledge’ upon us. Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 26 2015 22:30 utc | 51 All this talk about the MC5 and Detroit is giving me flashbacks, some pleasant and some not so pleasant. I was there at the Grande Ballroom one of the nights the 5 recorded their first album, my ears are still ringing. Although there is more bad news happening today it seems people and especially young people are much more tame and subjugated today. We had fun and scared the piss out of the Man while it lasted. People don’t even know how to put up a good insurrection such as the Detroit Riot I also observed firsthand. Posted by: Wayoutwest | Apr 26 2015 22:44 utc | 52 You guys are seriously a bunch of old timers 🙂 Posted by: Almand | Apr 27 2015 0:18 utc | 53 @Almand #53: More anti-Russian propaganda from der Spiegel: Almand at 53 — I try to keep up, while they’re not punk or post-punk, “Dangerous” cited at 18 is actually from this millenium (conveniently re-linked here). I like Sail by Awolnation, too. Green Day certainly has the punk ethos covered, but is probably a little to Old School by this point to count, especially as American Idiot was the last CD I bought in a record store some years ago. Posted by: rufus magister | Apr 27 2015 1:51 utc | 57 @55 demian.. pussy riot version 2 from neo con central? who would have ever thunk it? lol.. Posted by: james | Apr 27 2015 2:23 utc | 58 Rufus, Green Day was MTVs decades-late interpretation of punk. I was in high school when they came out and even I know this. What was that other pung-drag boy band? Rancid? Every kid with a brain during that era was into an underground scene. It does tickle my funnybone though to think *adults* were the ones actually listening to that shit, so thanks. Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 27 2015 3:02 utc | 59 Thousands of Saudi Forces Flee Bases Posted by: Lone Wolf | Apr 27 2015 3:34 utc | 60 four mths into the regime change in sri lanka ousting pro china prez mr, Posted by: denk | Apr 27 2015 3:35 utc | 61 Anon at 59 — Sadly, I am long removed from the superior wisdom that comes with high school. Glad to see you’re still hanging out with the cool kids. I’ve always been fortunate that the 1 pct. never found me good slumming. Posted by: rufus magister | Apr 27 2015 3:59 utc | 62 this site may be hacked !!! Posted by: denk | Apr 27 2015 4:26 utc | 63 04/26/2015 Posted by: Fete | Apr 27 2015 4:27 utc | 64 @Damian
what does it mean? try dancing that in Arlington cemetery. Posted by: papa | Apr 27 2015 4:50 utc | 65 LW@60 Posted by: Wayoutwest | Apr 27 2015 4:51 utc | 66 @papa #65: @66 wow.. too bad about mccain, err the usa’s isis man in the middle east if so.. not to worry, i see isis have offered up a video on their desire to help saudi arabia work in yemen.. that must warm the hearts of the cia folks including mccain and neo con central.. fars news is a far cry better then nyt, wapo and similar such crap on a par with the national enquirer.. Posted by: james | Apr 27 2015 5:29 utc | 68 Fuk off and die, demian, you racist redneck white trash piece of shit Posted by: demian is white trash | Apr 27 2015 8:02 utc | 69 rufus magister @47 there they go again… Posted by: denk | Apr 27 2015 8:07 utc | 71 @Demian #45 Posted by: ǝn⇂ɔ | Apr 27 2015 9:28 utc | 72 Baghdadi, dead or not, is already on the posters next to BL Posted by: Mina | Apr 27 2015 10:27 utc | 73 Zero Hedge: “China Considers Launching QE; Shanghai Stocks Soar” Posted by: x | Apr 27 2015 11:57 utc | 74 in re 70 — I think you overestimate the broadmindedness of the 70’s and the elite. HL Gates got plenty of racism a stone’s throw from Harvard on his own doorstep in the Peoples Republic of Cambridge. In any case I doubt if Barry’s contacts were just the upper crust, especially once he got down to work in the So. Side of Chicago. Posted by: rufus magister | Apr 27 2015 12:00 utc | 75 en1c at 72 — You’re correct on this point. Multi-member districts, proportional representation, much larger House of Reps. would all help. Same for state legislatures. Posted by: rufus magister | Apr 27 2015 12:03 utc | 76 rufus magister @75: Henry Gates? Gimme a break. Okay, got it. You’ve read the campaign biographies and you’re a believer, AND looks like you watch MSNBC way too much. In economic terms, Obama has benefited greatly from being half-black, there’s really no avoiding that. Yes, of course he encountered racism, but never from important power, always from sidelined and powerless except for their fists assholes. At school, law school, business and political worlds, his blackness aided his career. Them’s the rules. Mina @73 Posted by: okie farmer | Apr 27 2015 14:09 utc | 78 @Vintage Red@19, 20, 21 Posted by: Lone Wolf | Apr 27 2015 14:51 utc | 79 _This_ Henry Gates? Personal buddy to SONY chief Lynton? @james@68 Posted by: Lone Wolf | Apr 27 2015 15:11 utc | 81 OF@78 Posted by: Wayoutwest | Apr 27 2015 15:57 utc | 82 Sorry I couldn’t identify #3 Posted by: Mina | Apr 27 2015 16:08 utc | 84 LW@81 Posted by: Wayoutwest | Apr 27 2015 16:16 utc | 85 This link will connect you to a 2-part lecture given by investigative journalist, doctor of divinity, educator, Chris Hedges who will provide you with a terrific historical and cultural review of the US, from WWI up to the present day. Posted by: okie farmer | Apr 27 2015 16:22 utc | 86 Writers Withdraw From PEN Gala to Protest Award to Charlie Hebdo
… and the PEN membership is churning, with decent people leaving the organization and racists joining. Devastation and destruction applies to otganizaions as well as the nations once the Obama administration has its way. Posted by: jfl | Apr 27 2015 16:35 utc | 87 @87 Darn right. Enough is enough. There will be a mass burning of monitors and flatscreens in Silicon Valley. Date to be announced. Posted by: dh | Apr 27 2015 17:16 utc | 88 @81 lone wolf.. everyone here sees right thru whacked out west.. Posted by: james | Apr 27 2015 17:17 utc | 89 Billboard in Wisconsin features cop who shot 2 dead in 10 days
They don’t call them cheese heads for nothing. I guess as long as its someone else’s son whose head the cops have turned into Swiss cheese … no problem? OF@86 Posted by: Wayoutwest | Apr 27 2015 18:27 utc | 92 @Mina@32, 35, 73, 84 Posted by: Lone Wolf | Apr 27 2015 18:31 utc | 93 @89,90 @94 jfl. thanks and yes to your comments! Posted by: james | Apr 27 2015 21:58 utc | 95 Taiwanese animators explain Patreaus affair/resignation: Posted by: citizen X | Apr 27 2015 22:02 utc | 96 @james@95
Close, but no cigar. Wonder if the brain dead neocons ever read this quote. Posted by: Lone Wolf | Apr 27 2015 23:16 utc | 97 “Hedges is probably the best the Liberal elite ineffectual class has to offer today but after his performance and attempt to guide the Occupy Movement with his High Culture moralism he strikes me as little more than a poseur attempting to appear radical.” I’ve quit watching MSM except for on occasions like today in Baltimore- ha ha ha. What a hapless display. I’ve never seen Chris Matthews look more bewildered- he finally began to relax when he asked when the manufacturing jobs were going to be coming back? Hello white America , we’re here for you! The jobs are coming back -in the for profit prisons. Posted by: Nana2007 | Apr 28 2015 0:30 utc | 99 http://rt.com/usa/253569-baltimore-riot-live-updates/ Posted by: Nana2007 | Apr 28 2015 0:47 utc | 100 |
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