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March 29, 2015
Open Thread 2015-16
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Further to the ongoing discussion about quarrels amongst Banderastani oligarchs, the Kyiv Post reviews the state of play with a convenient compendium of statements by Kolomoisky, Kolomoisky speaks of his inner tug-of-war and patriots from the Opposition Bloc. A small sampling.
Backing down, but only so far. Posted by: rufus magister | Mar 29 2015 17:41 utc | 1 http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/sanctions-and-fate-nuclear-talks-908442964 Posted by: okie farmer | Mar 29 2015 18:22 utc | 2 See https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/03/27/revealed-tsas-closely-held-behavior-checklist-spot-terrorists/ Posted by: diogenes | Mar 29 2015 18:27 utc | 3 El Salvador: Prof. Karl highlights the recent decision of the Board of Immigration Appeals ruling that former Salvadoran Defense Minister Vides Casanova could be deported from the US for his responsibility for human rights abuses during the civil war… Posted by: Maracatu | Mar 29 2015 18:55 utc | 4 rufus magister @ 1 http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_wsite1_1_29/03/2015_548624 Posted by: okie farmer | Mar 29 2015 20:42 utc | 7 Very Strange that in the case of the Ukraine, an elected President, Yanukovich is forced to flee a violent uprising, the UK Foreign Office say the Ukrainian constitution was observed [a blatant lie] This is part of the letter I received at the time from the FO “As you know, the Foreign Secretary’s statement on 4 March said “The House will recall from my statement last Monday that, on Friday 21 February, former President Yanukovych and the opposition in Ukraine signed an agreement to end months of violence. Shortly afterwards, Mr Yanukovych fled Kiev, the 2004 constitution was restored, early presidential elections were called for 25 May, and an interim Government were appointed”. This accurately reflects what happened and the Foreign Secretary is therefore not misleading Parliament”. Now that Hadi [the only candidate in the last election] has fled Yemen a different set of rules are applied, Hadi must be reinstated, and unless he is, a Saudi led coalition will ensure he is. The UN is silent. What hypocrisy Posted by: harry law | Mar 29 2015 21:36 utc | 8 Military sources claim Saudi Arabia has sent 5,000 Takfiri terrorists to Yemen. http://www.almanar.com.lb/english/adetails.php?eid=203366&cid=23&fromval=1&frid=23&seccatid=31&s1=1 Posted by: harry law | Mar 29 2015 21:42 utc | 9 Alan at 5 — Good stuff. “Dressing up Ukraine in attire suitable for civilized society is an ongoing process. Those baggy trousers, high deerskin boots and forelock are very interesting, but only for a folk festival. That is why the West insisted that Ukraine change into “gentlemen’s” clothing in the form of presidential elections, parliamentary elections and reforms — albeit, all of questionable legitimacy.” Posted by: rufus magister | Mar 29 2015 22:13 utc | 10 Just watched a Simon Reeve travelogue/documentary on BBC2 in Britain which had been following his travels in the Caribbean. He was sympathetic to glowing on most of his destinations including Columbia, but his script for Venezuela could have been written by Victoria Neuland herself and it was the only country where he spent most of his time attacking the government. Watch it if you can. It’s an excellent example of propaganda in a programme where an ostensibly friendly and sympathetic young man that will deceive many more. Posted by: Ffidel Bennett | Mar 29 2015 22:33 utc | 11 Iran Nuclear Talks Deal on Centrifuges at Fordo NOT using Uranium: https://youtu.be/5wmca7gS7Fw Posted by: Tom Murphy | Mar 29 2015 22:43 utc | 12 Remember this one?
HL@9 Posted by: Wayoutwest | Mar 30 2015 0:00 utc | 15 @8 harry.. bingo.. Posted by: james | Mar 30 2015 0:53 utc | 16 @15: “BTW the Takfiri terrorists, as you call them, are already in Yemen they are called AQAP and they are Yeminis who don’t need or want any Saudi assistance.” guest, Christian Parenti: “What would happen if a wider war broke out the region.” That speech was in 2005, and exactly what’s happened. Posted by: okie farmer | Mar 30 2015 1:42 utc | 18 TRNN on Yemen: http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=13530 Posted by: ben | Mar 30 2015 1:50 utc | 19 “The US was forced to change its mind over cooperating with the China-led development bank after its allies refused to join a boycott, which is a sign that dollar hegemony is not lasting, Lew Rockwell, chairman of the Ludwig von Mises Institute told RT.” Posted by: ben | Mar 30 2015 2:15 utc | 20 03/29/2015 Posted by: Fete | Mar 30 2015 3:37 utc | 21 Conversations with Harold Channer: Gilad Atzmon @okie – absolutely. Nearly every danger described by the anti-war movement has come to pass. Which shows why the pro-war campaign had to be so vigorous. @20 Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 30 2015 4:24 utc | 24 I posted the Atzmon because I know people here are interested in him, though I’ve never much listened to him. I’m surprised to discover he holds what seem to be hard-right ideas. I guess I assumed he’d be making a left-wing critique. He actually coins a phrase: “Stalin’s Willing Executioners” – which is more than a little bit ironic because of course we all know where he drew that phrasing from (the Goldhagen that Norman Finkelstein destroys in, I believe, “The Holocaust Industry”). Which isn’t to disagree with him entirely. HIs point about Chomsky and the Mearshimer & Walt book is well-taken. G@17 Posted by: Wayoutwest | Mar 30 2015 4:53 utc | 27 Something not being discussed in this crisis is the fact that the US Drone War against AQAP has been shut down or at least curtailed by the Houthi’s advances and this could be part of the reason the Saudis were encouraged by the US to begin bombing. The Iranian connection with the Houthis is pretty thin and it may have been a huge mistake for Iran to open relations with them so early in their conquest. This miscalculation opened the door to intervention with the easy excuse of Iran interfering and seeking expansion of their influence. Posted by: Wayoutwest | Mar 30 2015 5:10 utc | 28 @25 – guest77 Posted by: Cahaba | Mar 30 2015 5:17 utc | 29 psychohistorian, Michael Hudson had another thought about the countries joining, that ,at least, the Europeans were looking to get in on contracts for their biggest construction companies. It could be true of Australia as well, but I suspect it’s more than that – a 5th column inside the AIIB. Posted by: okie farmer | Mar 30 2015 7:17 utc | 30 Iraqi Forces in No Hurry to Expel ISIS From Tikrit
Carpet bombing. We had to destroy the village, city, country in order to save it. Nothing has changed in my lifetime from the US MIC’s point of view. The ‘save it’ refers to saving the resources beneath it for themselves – the MIC and their local compradores (NOT! suckers…) – and from the village’s, city’s, country’s citizens and inhabitants. Posted by: jfl | Mar 30 2015 8:11 utc | 31 In Stephen Lendmans blog today ‘Obama, Rogue Arab states support mass murdering Yemenis’ He speculates what would happen if John Bolton was appointed as ‘Secretary of State’ or ‘Defence’,After Bolton’s bloodthirsty call to bomb Iran. I can think of a worse scenario, John McCain as President and Bolton at State or Defence. Two genuine 100% Psychopaths. Posted by: harry law | Mar 30 2015 8:29 utc | 32 This is an interessting development, wonder if Turkey will stick to it.
This should put some cramp into the US/Ukrainian gas plans. Posted by: Fran | Mar 30 2015 11:30 utc | 33 @guest77 #23 Posted by: ǝn⇂ɔ | Mar 30 2015 12:57 utc | 34 Just now published in Dutch papers … a call for witnesses and information. Two scenarios, the BUK missile launched from separatist territory and the air-to-air missile launched from a fighter plane. @ 24: “Someone is going to force this issue. Will it be Greece? Will they tell private finance where they can stick their austerity mindset?” Posted by: ben | Mar 30 2015 14:39 utc | 36 Hard to believe:
Posted by: Fran | Mar 30 2015 15:26 utc | 37 @36 Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 30 2015 15:28 utc | 38 Forgot that one can not link to Sputnik here. They have a story about the Ukraine have lost 5 of 40 Planes from India without a trace. The were supposed to upgrade them Posted by: Fran | Mar 30 2015 15:28 utc | 39 Wonder if RT can be linked to.
Posted by: Fran | Mar 30 2015 15:31 utc | 40 And from the land of the chosen we have;Olmert?ex PM, was convicted of bribery,and will be sentenced up to 5 years,to run with the 6 year sentence he got last year for the same crime. Posted by: dahoit | Mar 30 2015 15:44 utc | 41 Kolomoisky-Petroshenko. Posted by: Noirette | Mar 30 2015 17:28 utc | 42 A Saudi led coalition of the subordinates in Yemen.
Lucky them.. Posted by: Pat Bateman | Mar 30 2015 17:42 utc | 43 @Fran #33 Posted by: Pat Bateman | Mar 30 2015 17:51 utc | 44 Pat@43 – I read about that situation, but it did not register with me that it was a turkish cargo. How stupid can you be – the Ukrainians surely would receive an award if there was one. Posted by: Fran | Mar 30 2015 18:08 utc | 45 So, it turns out that the Germanwings crash is not so straightforward after all. The Marseille prosecutor only opened a criminal case after the NY Times published a story based on a leak of the berserk copilot theory. That undermined the separate technical investigation. And it is strange that the data card is missing from the flight data recorder. From an intriguing Web site I did not know about before: @38: Ukies trying to force the Turks to let LNG tankers through the Straits? Posted by: lysias | Mar 30 2015 18:43 utc | 47 For time reasons I don’t watch too many interviews, but check out this video of Stratfor’s George Friedman spilling barrels of beans as to US Imperial geostrategic perspectives and goals over on The Saker (NB: it’s “Friedman,” not “Freeman”); suffice it to say the ghosts of Mackinder and Mahan still haunt the US Deep State. Cordon Sanitaire vs. Russia, phobia over German-Russian cooperation, extension of Mahan’s “control of the seas” to “control of space,” setting other countries against each other and “spoiling attacks”… “The United States… controls all the oceans of the world. Because of that, we get to invade other people and they don’t get to invade us–it’s a very nice thing…” Posted by: Vintage Red | Mar 30 2015 18:57 utc | 49 jfl@31 Posted by: Wayoutwest | Mar 30 2015 19:07 utc | 50 @VR #48: @Demian #45 See http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/vladimir-putin-says-russia-will-fight-for-the-right-of-palestinians-to-their-own-state-10141902.html Posted by: diogenes | Mar 30 2015 20:21 utc | 53 @52 Netanyahu didn’t change his mind. He just changed the wording to suit the audience. Posted by: dh | Mar 30 2015 20:43 utc | 54 Fascinating piece by Thierry Meysann: The Arab Civil War
Maybe that is why WoW hates Iran so passionately? Because it is a Muslim society which gives women equal rights? Way out West conceived a child with a Yazidi women in a cave in the Poconos as part of a satanic ritual. The high priestess Lindsey Graham presided over the union bathed in blood. Nine months later Al Bagdadi was hatched out of an egg in the Temple Mount in Jerusalem and Isis was born. So it goes. Posted by: Nana2007 | Mar 30 2015 23:01 utc | 56 Noirette at 41 —
This may be a case where the spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak. If Wash. understands the limitations of its materiels, they’ll likely manage. Posted by: rufus magister | Mar 30 2015 23:04 utc | 57 @VR #48:
And I wonder what guest77 thinks of the following:
@54 @48 vr.. thanks for that video on the bottom of your post… Posted by: james | Mar 30 2015 23:20 utc | 60 WOW, after reading the last three comments addressed to me I’m beginning to think I may be breaking through the hubris of these commenters and making them think even if I never thought that was possible. Groupthink and deeply believed false narratives are extremely difficult to overcome but I do my best and I’m still waiting for that check in the mail for my efforts, I do receive a check from the Government but it’s not what you think, it’s SS. Posted by: Wayoutwest | Mar 31 2015 0:30 utc | 61 I watched that Stratfor guy speech and it struck me as either a sort of semi lunatic confabulation in order to impress the lay public and sell his books, or a deliberate marketing campaign to the corporations he sells his info. I don’t even wanna go into the details of so many inaccuracies, misrepresentations, logical fallacies, sweeping generalizations and outright silly statements that he produced in it, but the gist of it being that the US is afraid of Germany alliance with Russia could be interesting if not the reality which is that Germany throughout the history invaded Russia several times, but each time was defeated. Germany has been and will be in the future Russia’s biggest trade partner, but I wouldn’t dramatize it into any kind of alliance of soulmates. It’s simply not gonna happen. Posted by: Al | Mar 31 2015 1:01 utc | 62 Counterrevolution On The March by Hamid Dabashi at Alaraby is an interesting rant about the ME. I agree with some but not all of what he writes and especially enjoyed his evisceration of the crypto-Liberals who support the likes of Assad and Iran in their power plays. Posted by: Wayoutwest | Mar 31 2015 1:02 utc | 63 D @ 57 — Stratfor seems to mix fact and fantasy. Posted by: rufus magister | Mar 31 2015 1:18 utc | 64 al @ 61 — That video sounds like some tough duty. I seem to have merely caught a fleeting glimpse of the very tip of the iceberg. Posted by: rufus magister | Mar 31 2015 1:24 utc | 65 I could never take stratfor seriously after reading “Americas Secret War.” Straight up neo-con apologia in the guise of geopolitical analysis. Posted by: Cpl. Cam | Mar 31 2015 2:08 utc | 66 “Rabbi Shlomo Riskin,rabbi of Efrat, on Saturday night compared US President Barack Obama to Haman and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to Mordechai. Posted by: nat judge | Mar 31 2015 2:17 utc | 67 Why They Hate Robert Mugabe Posted by: okie farmer | Mar 31 2015 2:39 utc | 68 A commenter at Kremlin Stooge highlighted some articles intimating that Yatsenuk is on the way out, having siphoned off 7.6 billion in government funds. His replacement could be Natalie Jaresko. Also rumors are circulating that he’s turned into a hamster. Links for anyone who reads Russian: Posted by: Nana2007 | Mar 31 2015 3:01 utc | 69 03/30/2015 22:30 Posted by: Fete | Mar 31 2015 3:57 utc | 70 China is not allowing DPRK to join it’s new AIIB bank….Anyone know whats up with that? Posted by: Fernando | Mar 31 2015 4:47 utc | 71 It appears the Ukraine War is becoming the Frozen Conflict supposedly desired by Putin and others in Russia with some diminishing possibility of further engagements. This may give the People’s Republics some time to begin rebuilding and strengthening their governments but we will have to wait to see what is in store for them vis-à-vis Kiev. Posted by: Wayoutwest | Mar 31 2015 4:49 utc | 72 Posted by: Fernando | Mar 31, 2015 12:47:32 AM | 69 Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Mar 31 2015 7:19 utc | 73 @69 Wikipedia tells me that the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB) shares its acronym with the Anti-Imperialist International Brigade (AIIB) – the Japanese Red Army – a 1970s Communist militant group whose ideology was “anti-imperialism” and who aimed “to start a world revolution”. Posted by: Pat Bateman | Mar 31 2015 8:52 utc | 75 Saudi Airstrikes Hit Yemen Refugee Camp, 45 Civilians Killed
Gee, I read that and thought Sabra/Shatilla … and then the Ukrainian line about the people in the Donbass shelling their own villages.
Pat Bateman@73. SISI is ISIS spelt backwards. Correct, it is called a palindrome, like “NOTLOB” is “BOLTON” spelt backwards. Hej, See Monty Python parrot sketch. Posted by: harry law | Mar 31 2015 9:30 utc | 77 Is Europe Pushing Greece Toward Russia?
Yeah, that sounds like a good solution all around. Just to confirm my psychopath analysis of John McCain, get this. “McCain suggests Israel “go rogue” blow up Iran negotiations by stating war. http://www.alternet.org/mccain-suggests-israel-go-rogue-blow-iran-negotiations-starting-war#.VRmKvrJ The ‘songbird’ not only has a big yellow streak up his back, he’s lost his marbles, should be locked up for his own, and our safety. Posted by: harry law | Mar 31 2015 9:58 utc | 79
Another American political first. The Nobel Peace Prize Laureate is the greatest fraud ever perpetrated, anywhere, at any time, on anyone. @harry law #77: Record oil tankers sailing to China amid stockpiling Posted by: mcohen | Mar 31 2015 12:21 utc | 82 I do receive a check from the Government but it’s not what you think, it’s SS. Posted by: Quote/UN-Quote | Mar 31 2015 13:28 utc | 83 From the sott.net: The Rise of Russia and the ‘End of the World’ link @58
While Schiff was a strident opponent of the Russian Tsar for his treatment of Russian Jews, it’s difficult to tell if sympathy for his co-religionists in Russia was the motivation for Schiff, and other Jewish Wall Street bankers and industrialists, to finance the Bolshevik revolution. After all, they all also reaped massive financial rewards as a result.
Milner was perhaps the preeminent agent of the British Empire at that time. As High Commissioner for Southern Africa, German-born Milner pioneered concentration camps and ethnic cleansing during the Boer War to expand British control of Africa. Milner was also the chief author of the Balfour Declaration, despite it being published in Arthur Balfour’s name.
Milner’s ideological bi-partisanship – and utter indifference to his German roots – mirrored that of the Wall Street bankers. Speaking to the League for Industrial Democracy in New York on 30th December 1924, Otto H. Kahn, who was Jacob Schiff and Felix Warburg’s partner in Kuhn, Loeb & Co. and director of American International Corp., said:
” Posted by: Quote/UN-Quote | Mar 31 2015 13:44 utc | 84 Under Lenin and Trotsky, the Bolshevik ‘revolution’ had effectively shut down the Russian economy and its industry, allowing Western bankers to step in to ‘rebuild’. Consider the words of American journalist, labor organizer, and publicist, Albert Rhys Williams, who was both a witness to – and participant in – the October revolution, as he testified at the Senate Overman Committee (September 1918 and June 1919):
So even as early as 1919 some people clearly understood the aim of Wall St’s financing of the Bolshevik Coup in Russia. Amusing that a century later there are still some shills who are still desperately trying to hide what was acknowledged back in 1919 Posted by: Quote/UN-Quote | Mar 31 2015 13:55 utc | 85 85;Well the USSR sure produced a lot of great weaponry in WW2,was that non native?And someone said Israel and NK are equal?NK aint subjugating and murdering captive other peoples,and the people of NK are happy and smiling,a devoid human condition in Israel.(and US) Posted by: dahoit | Mar 31 2015 14:22 utc | 86 Demian at 55. Ha ha, was Meyssan serious? (I didn’t read the piece. Not that I dislike him but I can’t be bothered.) Posted by: Noirette | Mar 31 2015 15:13 utc | 87 D@86 Posted by: Wayoutwest | Mar 31 2015 16:07 utc | 88 Railway takes war machines, tanks/trucks to Edmonton, Alberta, from there to Ukraine? https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=926742280678400 Posted by: TikTok | Mar 31 2015 16:16 utc | 89 N@56 Posted by: Wayoutwest | Mar 31 2015 16:46 utc | 90 @Noirette #87: Sorry WoW, the side you root for ain’t going to make it: Posted by: Matt | Mar 31 2015 19:28 utc | 92 N@87 Posted by: Wayoutwest | Mar 31 2015 19:44 utc | 93 This article in Counterpunch made me realize that it should come as no surprise that the West couldn’t care less about the Ukrainians deliberately shelling civilians and destroying infrastructure in the Donbass, since NATO did exactly the same thing in Yugoslavia. This is the American way of war, and Europeans have become so decadent that they accept it, even when it is waged inside Europe. @94 Posted by: jfl | Mar 31 2015 22:14 utc | 95 @jfl #95: RT reports: “A parliamentary candidate for the UK Independence Party (UKIP) has stepped down after he said US President Barack Obama should be kidnapped and put on trial in Israel, it has emerged. Posted by: nat judge | Apr 1 2015 1:36 utc | 97 Yemen Echoes of 1930s Aggression and Descent into Barbarism
Posted by: Nana2007 | Apr 1 2015 3:11 utc | 98 @98 nana.. i couldn’t agree more, especially with the hypocrisy described in that last line of your quote.. your link is not working btw.. Posted by: james | Apr 1 2015 3:32 utc | 99 03/30/2015 15:19 Posted by: Fete | Apr 1 2015 3:42 utc | 100 |
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