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March 21, 2015
Open Thread 2015-15
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Since I couldn’t add a comment to the the last posting about the mess in the middle East I will state here my appreciation for your efforts to educate the public about elements of the pariah nation we live in and need to face. Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 21 2015 19:48 utc | 1 The U.S. Has No Defense Against A Russian Nuclear Attack. Really. @ 2 Thompson seems to think a nuclear war is winnable with the right technology. Talk about deluded. Posted by: dh | Mar 21 2015 21:20 utc | 3 #1, I agree Posted by: jo6pac | Mar 21 2015 21:37 utc | 4 Russia warns Denmark its warships could become nuclear targets ALAN I saw a similar article on Strategic Culture. I don’t know what to make of it. Certainly Denmark is full of far-right fascists. But I’m not sure Russia should be provoking them – they’re reactionary as hell. Denmark now has a chance to start WWIII. Posted by: okie farmer | Mar 21 2015 22:24 utc | 6 http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/03/21/402864/Russia-kills-7-suspected-militants Posted by: okie farmer | Mar 21 2015 22:34 utc | 7 2 Posted by: NoReply | Mar 21 2015 22:34 utc | 8 Wow, Forbes has this:
The rest is also interesting. Posted by: Fran | Mar 21 2015 23:56 utc | 9 NBC fears viewers learn what Iran’s Foreign Minister said to Ann Curry? tweet @JZarif ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yj8tKd-LHG0&list=PLfrlsC1yJ2dTXqES5XlujpcwBNwCBwS67 There is something seriously wrong with the media in America. And what NBC did with the interview with Iran’s foreign minister is the latest example of that. Posted by: Tom Murphy | Mar 22 2015 0:06 utc | 10 @9 That is interesting especially coming from Forbes. After reading this Posted by: dh | Mar 22 2015 0:55 utc | 11 @10 A little history:
Posted by: guest77 | Mar 22 2015 2:23 utc | 13 Looks like despicable actions of the United States in Abu Gharib (meet the new boss, same as the old boss) are going to come to light. And of course it is important to remember that this behavior wasn’t “a few bad apples” and shouldn’t be blamed on just the low level folks who carried it out (though they’ll try) but that this was behavior sanctioned from the top. Posted by: guest77 | Mar 22 2015 3:10 utc | 15 Not doing too good tonight – this is the important part: Posted by: guest77 | Mar 22 2015 3:11 utc | 16 03/22/2015 00:59 Posted by: Fete | Mar 22 2015 3:54 utc | 17 @16 Posted by: jfl | Mar 22 2015 5:17 utc | 18 @ guest77 16: Posted by: ben | Mar 22 2015 5:21 utc | 19 Russia warns Denmark its warships could become nuclear targets Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Mar 22 2015 5:24 utc | 20 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/21/obama-iran-deal_n_6905634.html
Posted by: okie farmer | Mar 22 2015 6:08 utc | 21 This is worth a read, being more direct and less circuitous than the oft politically correct mildness usually on offer at TomDispatch. Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Mar 22 2015 6:45 utc | 22 On Friday the GA Ali al Sistani, in Baghdad, made a rather pointed remark about the Iraq/Iran forces being unprofessional and their lack of planning for the third failure to take the city of Tikrit. It seems the Iraq/Iran forces brought knives to a gunfight and none of their 30,000 fighters can fight, at least in urban warfare. The Islamic State force of about 1,000 didn’t run which they were supposed to do and now they are using guns and bombs which the Iraq/Iran forces need help from someone who knows how to deal with them. Posted by: Wayoutwest | Mar 22 2015 7:36 utc | 23 uh oh! Posted by: brian | Mar 22 2015 7:50 utc | 24 Posted by: Fete | Mar 21, 2015 11:54:56 PM | 17 Posted by: brian | Mar 22 2015 7:52 utc | 25 Posted by: Fran | Mar 21, 2015 7:56:32 PM | 9 Posted by: brian | Mar 22 2015 7:53 utc | 26 this looks interesting,,,,ISIS or Islamic State in Iraq and Shams (otherwise labelled by one wit as Israel Security Intelligence Services)…..providentially has the helpful word SHAM in its title! Posted by: brian | Mar 22 2015 9:01 utc | 27 @Hoarsewhisperer #22:
But it does have a name, and everything Engelhardt considers in that post has been analyzed and theorized already. See inverted totalitarianism. I was surprised at Engelhardt’s ignorance. just last september , @Avaaz said this on crimea https://secure.avaaz.org/en/petition/Larry_Page_Google_President_We_protest_against_Googles_policy_which_supports_annexation_of_Crimea/?pv=4 Posted by: brian | Mar 22 2015 10:13 utc | 29 South Korea, Japan, China Hold First Trilateral Talks Since 2012
Obama continues to flail and flail away, taking divot after divot in Asia. Posted by: Fran | Mar 21, 2015 7:56:32 PM | 9 EU Ukraine policy: “stupidity on a grand scale”
Clearly the problem is not Russia, it is the USA. The Europeans must know this now, if somehow they did not before. Posted by: Demian | Mar 22, 2015 5:40:14 AM | 28 Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Mar 22 2015 11:25 utc | 33 I’m reading Michael Parenti’s Make-believe Media and he refers to Englehardt’s Ambush at Kamikaze Pass – written 44 years ago. I enjoyed reading it today. Here’s a link to Ambush at Kamekaze Pass, a piece written by Tom Englehardt 44 years ago, which still resonates today. And here’s a link to Inverted Totalitarianism, a little distillation of Sheldon Wolin’s work on Democracy Incorporated from 2003. I think he coined the term. NATO Ready To Welcome Ukraine As Full Member: Stoltenberg
If the Europeans are still not up to tossing out their lecherous, drunken uncle’s NATO, they can at least throw out his stooges, starting with the Prussian from Plön.
That was then, this is now. Not a moment to waste. Wake up! You’re sleepwalking into WW III. The Forbes article is interesting. There was a long article once in Harpers explaining how insane, and deeply ingrained this thinking is: Posted by: Piotr Berman | Mar 22 2015 16:59 utc | 37 What is going on here? Yesterday, looking for a new posting, there wasn’t one. Not only that, but the comment section on this was closed, not taking anew comments. By the way, seeing that Asia Times seems to have sold out to Facebook, (you can only comment if you have a facebook account-the response to why-because of spam and on social networks like facebook, it doesn’t happen, because everyone is in harmony). Is this going to happen to M o A too? Posted by: Norman | Mar 24 2015 17:38 utc | 38 The Tikrit offensive has devolved from a raft of excuses for its failure to recriminations between the involved parties reducing it to a near farce. First al Sistani called everyone involved unprofessional and unprepared then the head of the Bader Brigade called the Iraqi Army weaklings for begging the US for air strikes and now the Kurds are claiming that there are 30,000 Iranian forces involved in the fighting in Iraq. Posted by: Wayoutwest | Mar 24 2015 18:47 utc | 40 I wonder if the shutdown was a response to the trolls. Or maybe the trolls themselves caused the shutdown? Posted by: lysias | Mar 24 2015 19:01 utc | 41 Wayoutwest says: Posted by: john | Mar 24 2015 19:12 utc | 42 So Israel, the not so silent third party in Amerikan politics, has been accused of spying on US nuclear negotiations with Iran. How long before Jon Boehner is charged with treason? I’m not holding my breath.
Posted by: Nana2007 | Mar 24 2015 19:25 utc | 44 There’s ‘news‘ now of ‘the Whitehouse’ … implicit recognition of the impotence of the Nobel Peace Prize Laureate … backing an independent Palestine, apparently a land-locked Palestine, without Gaza. Posted by: jfl | Mar 24 2015 19:48 utc | 45 @37 norman.. see the new post with explanation.. that is interesting about asia online being taken over by fakebook… fakebook seems to be a popular thing with the internuts.. i hate it myself and avoid using it at all costs.. Posted by: james | Mar 24 2015 20:01 utc | 46 J@41 Posted by: Wayoutwest | Mar 24 2015 22:52 utc | 47 @ John #41 Posted by: Outraged | Mar 24 2015 22:52 utc | 48 The US lead coalition is not involved in the battle for Tikrit and I doubt they will join in that battle because it would be seen as assisting the Iranians who are seen by the US as a problem not a solution in Iraq. Posted by: Wayoutwest | Mar 24 2015 23:24 utc | 49 as if the usa has a shred of integrity with regard to truth in iraq or beyond LOLOL.. they are the same fuckers who unloaded du in iraq.. their own vets are suffering from it too, but do you think the usa would look after them with regard to that? no, they are too busy trying to think of the next war, when they are not creating havoc where-ever they set their gaze on. Posted by: james | Mar 24 2015 23:37 utc | 50 You need to be able to parse the true meaning of US statements about Iran, they are actually saying they fear that Iran is gaining influence and control in Iraq while the US is losing what little influence it ever really had. Posted by: Wayoutwest | Mar 25 2015 1:23 utc | 51 @#50 Posted by: Thirdeye | Mar 25 2015 2:20 utc | 52 Norman @37 Posted by: Jack Smith | Mar 25 2015 2:30 utc | 53 @wayoutIsrael AKA ‘Wayoutwest’ AKA ‘dummy’.
The CNN piece is titled: Posted by: Luca K | Mar 25 2015 3:46 utc | 54 @51
I spoke too soon. Posted by: Thirdeye | Mar 25 2015 4:15 utc | 55 Further details on the conflict in Dnieprpetrovsk, from Fort Russ.
Should the Presidential announcement be true, despite Kolomoisky’s raising the stakes, Poroshenko’s stall has worked. It could imply a deal — come to heel, stay out of politics and keep (some of) your loot. Or Kolomoisky is ditch the junta-bestowed office prior to proclaiming his “Peoples Republic.” I lean towards a deal being made. Posted by: rufus magister | Mar 25 2015 4:55 utc | 56 @third eye and rufus – here is john helmers latest on kolowackjob.. things are moving fast right now.. will be interesting to see the turn out and dynamic of wednesday 6pm gathering.. Posted by: james | Mar 25 2015 5:14 utc | 57 @51 Thirdeye Posted by: Jack Smith | Mar 25 2015 6:08 utc | 58 james at 56 — Helmer says its official; the discussion of Kolomoisky’s probs. w/Swiss residency permit interesting. I’m looking for a celebration of unity this afternoon. Posted by: rufus magister | Mar 25 2015 11:38 utc | 59 The results of the French départementales elections are being brazenly mis-reported by the French MSM. If you read a short article in any language you will read that the UMP gathered …and tra la.. here the figures vary (on 23 March 2015, date of writing), from about 28 to 32%, the Front National, always 25%, and the Socialists third with…? …19 – 23. BBC (typical and short..) http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32006268 Posted by: Noirette | Mar 25 2015 16:44 utc | 60 @Noirette #60
Very true, in the USA as well. This is the end result of the mainstream “left” becoming a lapdog for neoliberal globalists and defining itself over identity issues that range from marginal to frivolous, alienating its old core constituency. The “left” can either wake up and realize the severity of its errors or it will take itself out of the game entirely. Posted by: Thirdeye | Mar 25 2015 18:20 utc | 61 According to this article Kolomoisky is down but not out. He has retained the loyalty of Filatov and Korban, and Yatsenyuk has remained silent. He still has the economic power to ruin Poroshenko unless Poroshenko brings out the big guns of state power against him, the way Putin did against Khodorkovsky. But even then, Poroshenko would be much more vulnerable to countermoves than Putin ever was. Posted by: Thirdeye | Mar 25 2015 18:57 utc | 62 ABCNews (Australia): Lufthansa Group CEO says Germanwings crash remains ‘incomprehensible’ U.S. provides support in Tikrit despite Iran’s role
U.S. Airstrikes on ISIS Reported in Tikrit for First Time
Looks like the US has decided to waste Tikrit and its residents. The annihilation of civilians is standard procedure in US wars ‘liberating’ them.
I imagine the airstrikes that destroy Tikrit will also fall on the Iraqi militias engaged there, and ‘with luck’ on any and all Iranians in the vicinity. Posted by: jfl | Mar 25 2015 22:10 utc | 64 “Perhaps today’s IMF mission is to fight against this oligarchic business in Kiev. But between two evils it’s not worth choosing.” Posted by: james | Mar 25 2015 23:32 utc | 65 Thirdeye at 62 — Posted by: rufus magister | Mar 25 2015 23:33 utc | 66 Yes, good post, b. And it is very good that you continue with this site and have for so long. Posted by: jfl | Mar 26 2015 0:04 utc | 67 Crimea: The Way back Home is now available with English subtitles. This full-length documentary is very slick and well worth watching for anyone who has an interest in the events of a year ago in the former Ukraine. Recommend this to all of your Ukrainian acquaintances! I’m amazed at how quickly info is being released about the Germanwings crash. The plane was nearly vaporized unlike M-17, the wreckage of which–large pieces of wreckage–remains strewn across the countryside. We’ll probably know what happened yesterday with some certainty in the next week or so. We will never know what happened over Ukraine more than a year ago. Some truths are just too inconvenient. Posted by: chuckvw | Mar 26 2015 6:19 utc | 69 Posted by: Quote/UNquote | Mar 26 2015 9:08 utc | 70 Prospect Mag’s editor is Bronwen Maddox,
Quite a collection of spooks, shills and political shitheads there. Posted by: Quote/UNquote | Mar 26 2015 9:18 utc | 71 In addition to moving against Kolomoisky, Poroshenko is also acting to curb the volunteer battalions. Fort Russs has J. Hawk asking whither The “Night of Long Knives” Cometh?. All units not under UAF or National Guard command are to leave the “ATO” area by April. Azov and some other battalions are National Guard units, but the Right Sector militia is not.
Hawk concludes by noting that, thanks to its support of Poroshenko, the SBU has gained in influence and is being reorganized into a political police against dissent. “So at long last Poroshenko will get himself a loyal (?) Praetorian Guard. But then again, that’s what the National Guard was supposed to be, and we know how that turned out… ” Posted by: rufus magister | Mar 26 2015 11:31 utc | 72 “US House Votes to arm Ukraine”. Posted by: Willy2 | Mar 26 2015 19:16 utc | 73 Well, 48 hours after the crash, the mystery of Germanwings is cleared up: @74 demian..those are the kinds of things more people would benefit from questioning..why nothing on the top secret event of the downing of mh17, but quick and full disclosure on this? smells fishy means it is fishy to me.. Posted by: james | Mar 26 2015 20:45 utc | 75 @james #75:
It will be interesting to see whether that Web page gets taken down. re 74
The lack of information made available from the black boxes of MH17 is a real problem. One can only suppose that the results are not those desired. Posted by: Laguerre | Mar 26 2015 21:13 utc | 77 Another development in the Ukraine the Western media will ignore:
The official who fired the corruption investigator was Victoria Nuland’s darling Yats. @74 Posted by: jfl | Mar 26 2015 22:58 utc | 79 There are indications that Poroshenko is moving more broadly to consolidate his position. In addition to sacking Kolomoisky and beginning to rein in the “volunteer battalions” (see at 72), trial balloons about replacing Yatsenyuk are now aloft. Russia Insider asks, Is Yatsenyuk on His Way Out in Ukraine? The post originally appeared at OffGuardian.
It is worth underscoring that Yatsenyuk fired Nikolai Gordienko, the Chairman of State Financial Inspection of Ukraine (see D. at 78). After detailing various cases, Gordienko said “Corruption schemes in Ukraine are headed by the government of Yatsenyuk.” I would expect this would drive up his negatives and vulnerability.
Should Poroshenko get the “volunteer battalions” out of the East, this source of provocation would of course fade. Posted by: rufus magister | Mar 26 2015 23:03 utc | 80 @jfl #79:
@rufus magister #80: @jfl #79: D @ 82 — I used to think it was so 20th. century, but I had to get into the habit of reading stuff after I once linked to and discussed an article that b. had ref’d. in his lead posting. Posted by: rufus magister | Mar 27 2015 1:59 utc | 84 @rm #84: @83 Posted by: jfl | Mar 27 2015 4:22 utc | 86 Well done Russell, seems that spooks, shills and political shitheads just love you Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Mar 27 2015 7:04 utc | 87 >Posted by: jfl | Mar 27, 2015 12:22:59 AM | 86 Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Mar 27 2015 7:39 utc | 88 Grant Smith of Institute for Research: Middle Eastern Policy finally gets the DoD to declassify a 1987 report admitting Israel has the capacity to build, not just nukes, but H-bombs. Posted by: Imagine | Mar 27 2015 8:12 utc | 89 @ rufus magister | 66
Ukies oligarch have little say on the matter, despite their seemingly big local influence. Washington has full control over them, – it said to Kolomoisky to back-down, and he instantly did. Otherwise – his billions in Westerns banks would be frozen and/or confiscated, while Ukrainian assets would be nationalized or assimilated by other oligarchs. Exactly what happened to oligarchs who supported Yanukovich. Its better for Kolomoisky to lose some assets and influence than everything. He wont be rocking the boat, unlike some commentators assume, at least not where US is concerned. Posted by: Harry | Mar 27 2015 8:35 utc | 90 Posted by: Imagine | Mar 27, 2015 4:12:03 AM | 89 Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Mar 27 2015 8:57 utc | 91 I DO get more and more the imprssion that the Obama administration is fed up with Netanjahu. It’s NOT limited to the speech Netanjahu gave to Congress in march. That speech made it only worse. The first signs of a policy shift regarding Israel emerged after the november 2012 US elections. Posted by: Willy2 | Mar 27 2015 14:35 utc | 92 Harry at 90 — Posted by: rufus magister | Mar 27 2015 15:12 utc | 93 further to 93 — Posted by: rufus magister | Mar 27 2015 16:24 utc | 94 Demian is probably better able to comment on these than my godless self. Posted by: rufus magister | Mar 27 2015 16:43 utc | 95 @rm #95:
As I said, people who engage in holy war are not Christians. They are heretics.
This is the Jesus of American dispensationalist Christian heretics, not the Jesus of Christianity. Jesus is not a warrior. And note that the motto is in Latin. Latin has nothing to do with Orthodoxy; the Eastern church stayed with Greek. This is a simple and unambiguous indication that the ideas of this “Christian Taliban” are alien to Orthodoxy.
This corresponds to the concept of Sittlichkeit:
Both Hegelian social and political philosophy and Russian Orthodoxy are alternatives to Anglophone liberalism. In liberalism, all that matters are abstract rights and the satisfaction of individuals’ economic desires. People everywhere are the same; the concept of culture is a throwback to pre-modern times. According to Hegelianism and Orthodoxy in contrast, in order to feel fulfilled, individuals must be grounded in a particular culture, which provides their life with meaning, so that there is more to life than satisfying basic animal needs. The idea of particularity is very important here. There are universal human rights, but there is no universal culture. There are only particular cultures, and many different cultures exist which can provide communities with the basis for social life. Demian at 96 — You seemed a little subdued after your recent absence, I thought you might need a restorative tonic. Glad to see you back on form. Posted by: rufus magister | Mar 27 2015 20:31 utc | 97 PS to 97 — Russia’s ties to Germany in early 1800’s quite good. Turgenev, e.g., studied Hegel in Germany, his fiction can be seen to be popularizing it in a sense. Posted by: rufus magister | Mar 27 2015 20:39 utc | 98 @90 harry.. those are good insights. thanks for sharing and makes total sense. Posted by: james | Mar 27 2015 21:11 utc | 99 It’s obvious, and I may have missed s.o. saying the same, but I find it really astounding that a Germanwings plane crashes in the Alps, and we have the story in 24 hours from the Voice Recorder(yes, the FBI leaks water like a sieve), but in the case of MH17, nothing has come out in nearly a year now from the Black Boxes. It takes a big effort to keep things so quiet. Posted by: Laguerre | Mar 27 2015 21:31 utc | 100 |
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