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March 13, 2015
Open Thread 2015-14
News & views … (and NOT evermore 9/11 theories)
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Anti-Russian Propaganda campaign started on US pop culture/sci-fi site Posted by: nomi | Mar 13 2015 19:18 utc | 1 I looked on the preceding open thread and there seemed to be a mere scattering of 9-11 themed comments, which doesn’t seem excessive to me. So I wonder why have an open thread if you are going to be a gatekeeper demanding that people not discuss arguably the most important single event of the last half century? Posted by: paul | Mar 13 2015 19:22 utc | 3 Putin was about to spill the 9/11 beans so he had to vaporized. Posted by: Anonymous | Mar 13 2015 19:55 utc | 4 Ann Curry and NBC Distort Iran on Israel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWF6Pd7-tqw&list=PLfrlsC1yJ2dQHlNrxIiN9dy3AnL5GTs5N Posted by: Tom Murphy | Mar 13 2015 20:20 utc | 6 @1 Posted by: Farflungstar | Mar 13 2015 20:37 utc | 8 You would think that Bloomberg Television would attract an elite viewership. They keep repeating the same mantra. According to Ukraine government sources, the pro-Russian rebels have broken the ceasefire x times in the past 24 hours, etc…..The UKA needs to use halos and not helmets as headgear. Posted by: georgeg | Mar 13 2015 20:53 utc | 9 Western presstitutes are now circulating the idea Posted by: Luca K | Mar 13 2015 21:10 utc | 10 The powers that be are now as allergic to discussions of who was really responsible for 9/11 as the powers that were in Germany were allergic to discussions of who was really responsible for the Reichstag Fire in the 1930’s. Posted by: lysias | Mar 13 2015 21:29 utc | 11 A real work of art is convincing everyone that an aluminum tube (an aircraft) smashing at supposedly 500 mph into structural steel and concrete leaves a perfect imprint of its entry into the building of even the outer wings that are so weak you cannot walk on them. Then the tail keeps perfect trajectory as it goes in. Not even a shake. Waow. Posted by: Lochearn | Mar 13 2015 22:12 utc | 12 Posted by: lysias | Mar 13 2015 22:22 utc | 13 Teachers Can Once Again Wear Headscarves in Germany
Primo Levi said the everybody was someone’s Jew, and his Italian interlocutor added that the Palestinians are Israel’s Jews. Clearly, Muslims are PEGIDA’s Jews, and they are trying to make Muslims Germany’s and Europe’s Jews. lysias @ 11 Posted by: Ken Nari | Mar 13 2015 22:33 utc | 15 But 9/11, like the JFK assassination,is very much a current issue. One ensured the power of the present ruling group in the U.S. (and therefore elsewhere in the world), and the other enabled them to greatly increase that power. Posted by: lysias | Mar 13 2015 22:40 utc | 16 ps Linda, Anon, mcohen — LOL! No. 4 nails it. Don’t you mean Poutine? Posted by: rufus magister | Mar 13 2015 23:15 utc | 17 Sorry b, but I think you’re about to get a lesson in the Streisand Effect. Posted by: guest77 | Mar 13 2015 23:24 utc | 18 Has anyone seen news about the battle for Tikrit, it seems to be stalled. The head of the Bader Brigade says they need more troops, seems to me 30,000 would be enough. Posted by: Wayoutwest | Mar 13 2015 23:28 utc | 19 I think this is interesting – though a clear majority of US citizens in 2013 (61%) still believe JFK was killed by a conspiracy, it seems to have begun a decline around 9/11. Posted by: guest77 | Mar 13 2015 23:33 utc | 20 Oh, WayOutWest has showed up to tell us how great ISIL is. Posted by: guest77 | Mar 13 2015 23:38 utc | 21 http://www.presstv.ir/Video/2015/03/13/401641/US-foreign-policy–GOP-letter-to-Iran
Posted by: guest77 | Mar 13 2015 23:44 utc | 22 This, and an accompanying article on the motivation for a Russian exit from the WTO, seem very positive to me …
Russia should withdraw from WTO in response to new sanctions
That last is a quote from the translator’s analysis of the article. 9/11 is history so there’s that and believe in what you want. I believe in that it was game to get to get to this point in time. No rights and no recourse to any of your rights in the New and Improved Amerika. Those puppet county’s ou better decide soon on what side of the Amerika bus you are on. Sad day for us workers in the world. Posted by: jo6pac | Mar 14 2015 0:15 utc | 24 Oil prices are falling again and could drop to $20bbl if supplies keep rising. This is more bad news for suppliers and frackers but consumers will celebrate. Posted by: Wayoutwest | Mar 14 2015 0:30 utc | 25 Israeli right-wing nutjob defends nuking both Iran and Germany: Posted by: Ed Lozano | Mar 14 2015 0:47 utc | 26 hey b, what are your Russian handlers saying about Putin? Where is he? What are the daily talking points? Posted by: anotherjeff | Mar 14 2015 2:07 utc | 27 #25 Posted by: Ed Lozano | Mar 14 2015 2:22 utc | 28 For those who wonder (hoping, really) whether Putin is sick, dead, or in dead bed, all you have to do to frustrate your day is check the President of Russia website. Posted by: Lone Wolf | Mar 14 2015 3:08 utc | 29 LW@29 Posted by: Wayoutwest | Mar 14 2015 3:15 utc | 30
But given the track record of Conspiracy Theory Chapter 1 (JFK), we’ll be discussing 911 till 2060, at least… Posted by: citizen X | Mar 14 2015 4:06 utc | 31 Several noteworthy items at Fort Russ, including a report naming the employer of Nemtsov’s assassins. But I found J. Hawk’s report on the “Pre-Revolutionary Situation” in the UAF the most interesting. A colonel commanding a Ukrainian armored battalion used the phrase in an open letter, which Hawk quotes.
“One is left,” Hawk writes, “with a picture of a really badly organized military effort which is disjointed at every imaginable level—tactical, operational, strategic.” Posted by: rufus magister | Mar 14 2015 4:09 utc | 32 WoW #30 Posted by: citizen X | Mar 14 2015 4:11 utc | 33 citizen at 33 — That may well have been the most sensible thing said about this topic of late. Posted by: rufus magister | Mar 14 2015 4:13 utc | 34 A Washington Post editorial is now calling for war with Iran. Posted by: sleepy | Mar 14 2015 4:15 utc | 35 03/13/2015-05:00 Posted by: Fete | Mar 14 2015 4:22 utc | 36 A connection between the Nemtsov hit squad and Adam Osmaev is being fleshed out, according to a FSB source.
So we’re back to a Ukrainian connection. It makes more sense of the Anna connection, as the hit squad was apparently tipped off to Anna’s flight from Kiev to Moscow and started tailing Nemtsov when he picked her up at the airport. Osmaev’s colleague Yuri Bereza (Dnieper 1 Battalion) and Nemtsov shared her services. It has been alleged that the SBU recruited her to dig up dirt on Osmaev and Bereza’s angel, Kolomoisky. It would also be interesting to see if the bank transaction leads to any clue as to who financed the operation. Posted by: Thirdeye | Mar 14 2015 4:35 utc | 37 http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/14/opinion/turkeys-drift-from-nato.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=c-column-top-span-region®ion=c-column-top-span-region&WT.nav=c-column-top-span-region&_r=0 Posted by: okie farmer | Mar 14 2015 4:56 utc | 38 Nothing like a little garden-variety backroom intrigue. Sputnik says that “US Mull Replacement for Poroshenko”
You will regrettably have to seach yourself, keeps killing any mention of the url, except for – europe/20150301/1018921391.html#ixzz3UL2VVbKD Posted by: rufus magister | Mar 14 2015 6:28 utc | 39 New Cold War has links to the interview mentioned in no. 39, as well as a panel discussion with Cohen, John Mearsheimer, and Katrina van den Heuval, organized by ‘American Committee for East-West Accord’, of which Cohen is a cofounder. It is on ‘Finding a New Security Architecture That Brings Russia in from the Cold’. Posted by: rufus magister | Mar 14 2015 6:41 utc | 41 Israel treating al-Qaida fighters wounded in Syria civil war
In Israel they sell the Palestinians body parts, don’t they? 3 Posted by: NoReply | Mar 14 2015 9:13 utc | 43 25 Posted by: NoReply | Mar 14 2015 9:45 utc | 44 9/11 is a sore subject because it exposes the Banker’s Party for what it is. A single party with 2 options for the plebeians to choose from. There are of course always outliers, Sen Paul Wellstone, who are dealt with accordingly. Posted by: DickVanstone | Mar 14 2015 10:58 utc | 45 9/11: A Conspiracy Theory : The Corbett Report Posted by: ProsperityAndPeace | Mar 14 2015 11:34 utc | 46 Posted by: ProsperityAndPeace | Mar 14, 2015 7:34:05 AM | 46 Posted by: papa | Mar 14 2015 12:04 utc | 47 Russia Warns “State Of War” Exists As UK Nukes Prepare First Strike Posted by: ProsperityAndPeace | Mar 14 2015 13:16 utc | 48 and NOT evermore 9/11 theories Posted by: Cold N. Holefield | Mar 14 2015 13:34 utc | 49 Posted by: ProsperityAndPeace | Mar 14, 2015 9:16:27 AM | 48 Posted by: Cold N. Holefield | Mar 14 2015 13:41 utc | 50 Ruralito’s Kremlin Stooge has an hilarious quote from Michael McFaul, former US ambassador, now persona non grata to Russia. Speaking of the Russians he says …
If only sayin’ it made it so, eh Mikey? Not in reality of course, but in the mind of your mark? The USofA is not the greatest danger on earth to world peace, Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Barack Obama is a man of peace, and so is the 114th Congress. Who does this guy think he’s talking to? Everyone in the world knows that none of that is in any way true, that it is the diametric opposite of the truth. Oh please, Putin’s lack of a public appearance for a week means diddly squat. Posted by: ǝn⇂ɔ | Mar 14 2015 15:04 utc | 52 I think it would be as constructive, if not more, to speculate on who killed Elvis and Kennedy. /sarc Posted by: ǝn⇂ɔ | Mar 14 2015 15:14 utc | 53 ben at 54 — glad to oblige, though I can’t sit through videos on the computer (music videos excepted). I’m hoping someone puts out a transcript of the Cohen/Mearshimer panel. Posted by: rufus magister | Mar 14 2015 15:31 utc | 55 RM@39 Posted by: Wayoutwest | Mar 14 2015 15:37 utc | 56 Russia Insider has an interesting account reporting on repression and lauding Voice of America. “US-Funded Propaganda Channel Admits Reign of Terror in Kiev-Controlled Mariupol. Our state broadcaster is doing better journalism “than ‘independent and free’ russophobic media like CNN, NBC and Fox News.” It reports that the regime has detained some 3,000 people for “separatism,” including 150 recently in Mariupol. This crime equates apparently to “less than wholehearted enthusiasm for the junta.” Perhaps 70 pct. of the city feels this way. Posted by: rufus magister | Mar 14 2015 15:51 utc | 57 Wayout at 56 — Effective click bait, “Expert believes US Mulls Replacement” might be more accurate. I thought Cohen made some nice points, particularly that Poroshenko faces constraints from his right, and let the headline pass. Posted by: rufus magister | Mar 14 2015 16:05 utc | 58 Wow, I’ve been away too long, so much going on. What the hell does this mean? Russia to make a mysterious announcement (CNN/money) http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/benzinga/articles/news_15_03_5325518_russia_etf_falls_as_kremlin_reportedly_prepares_for_mysterious_announcement.html Posted by: TikTok | Mar 14 2015 16:08 utc | 59 RM@57 Posted by: Wayoutwest | Mar 14 2015 16:43 utc | 60 “All employees of the Russian Embassy in London from the various officers and attaches the last few days have left the UK” Posted by: Alberto | Mar 14 2015 16:57 utc | 61 Meanwhile a huge number of unmarked white trucks streaming into red square tonight pictures included: Posted by: Alberto | Mar 14 2015 17:01 utc | 62 @37 thirdeye.. thanks for that. Posted by: james | Mar 14 2015 17:01 utc | 63 Wayout at 60 — Since McFaul is out after a short term there (I do not recall the personal matter that drove him out), of course his contact meeting with friendly opponents of the Kremlin is old news. I just liked the account. Posted by: rufus magister | Mar 14 2015 17:26 utc | 64 errata “how DC expects to be able to intervene” at 64 Posted by: rufus magister | Mar 14 2015 17:28 utc | 65 a couple of stories on adam osmayev.. i put them on the wrong thread (the “Most Outlandish” Empire Semantics) just a moment ago.. Posted by: james | Mar 14 2015 17:45 utc | 66 RM@64 Posted by: Wayoutwest | Mar 14 2015 18:23 utc | 67 The Coincidence Theorist’s Guide to 9/11 Posted by: Uncle $cam | Mar 14 2015 18:29 utc | 68 This made the front page of the NYT. The tone couldn’t be more meh- nothing to see here. No here here. There there.
Posted by: Nana2007 | Mar 14 2015 18:32 utc | 69 @63 james Posted by: Yul | Mar 14 2015 18:37 utc | 70 Wayout — I don’t disagree that others will do the heavy lifting, should a color rev. come to pass. There are no indications that Putin has lost the loyalty of his comrades amongst the “siloviki.” So I think it an unlikely prospect. Posted by: rufus magister | Mar 14 2015 18:49 utc | 71 @69 yul.. thanks… Posted by: james | Mar 14 2015 19:05 utc | 72 @ 61, 62 Alberto Posted by: crone | Mar 14 2015 21:57 utc | 73 STRATFOR’s George Friedman on dividing Russia & Germany…
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Mar 14 2015 23:49 utc | 74 So Putin is dead after a coup by lizardmen aliens to prevent him from disclosing the truth of 9/11. He is being replaced by Pussy Riot, who will make Russia join NATO to take down those Chinese bastards at the behest of the Jew bankers. Posted by: Almand | Mar 15 2015 1:48 utc | 75 Why the media silence on Lindsey Graham’s vow to use the military to force vote in Congress?
The MSM, to the extent that they are reporting Lindsey Gayham’s statement at all, apparently, are spewing along the lines of ‘shucks, he was only kiddin’ … ‘let Gayham be Gayham’. Posted by: jfl | Mar 15 2015 3:01 utc | 77 03/14/2015-03 Posted by: Fete | Mar 15 2015 4:40 utc | 78 those multitasking lunatics in washington are testing beijing in its very own *crimea* ! Posted by: denk | Mar 15 2015 4:49 utc | 79 T.O.T., the Typhoon Pam in Vanuatu reached steady wind damage levels rarely seen and made direct landfall on many of their major island groups. Most people have been through a 65mph blow or a 85mph storm, some may have been through 130mph, but not many. Wind pressure varies as the SQUARE of wind speed, so the Vanuatu typhoon was 2/3rds again as strong as the strongest hurricane, in a region without building standards. To put it into even starker contrast, 155mph to 200mph gusts is average 100 pounds per square foot. It would be like getting hit by an NFL linebacker. Including suction on the rear wall, wind force on a small 3m x 5m island house would be over TEN TONS. When the leader of Vanuatu said ‘everything is gone’, he is not exaggerating. Entire villages and many of their populations may have been blown out to sea. Posted by: NoReply | Mar 15 2015 7:29 utc | 80 NoReply 78 Posted by: denk | Mar 15 2015 7:56 utc | 81 75 Posted by: NoReply | Mar 15 2015 8:25 utc | 82 70 Posted by: NoReply | Mar 15 2015 8:49 utc | 83 Posted by: dh | Mar 14, 2015 10:06:45 PM | 74 Posted by: Cold N. Holefield | Mar 15 2015 12:31 utc | 85 Here is the explanation about the letter handed by the cops to the teenage girls, instead of the parents. Posted by: Mina | Mar 15 2015 14:40 utc | 86 COnfirmation by the UK that a “foreign spy” is involved in helping the girl. Canadian according to some sources (Angry Arab) Posted by: Mina | Mar 15 2015 14:45 utc | 87 Houps, wrong link, the correct one is Posted by: Mina | Mar 15 2015 14:46 utc | 88 2 weapons in the hands of Boko Haram on 5 are French Posted by: Mina | Mar 15 2015 16:14 utc | 89 53
This writer is a clever propagandist, and his output demonstrates the truth of Orwell’s observation that, “the most powerful lie is the lie of omission”. And he encloses his trickiest deception, within a kind of parenthesis of insult. DC think tank wonk making big claims about a coup at the kremln Posted by: PeteCaroll | Mar 15 2015 19:11 utc | 91 Use of the term “conspiracy theory” in publications since the 1800s. Posted by: guest77 | Mar 15 2015 19:12 utc | 92 Anders Aslund is inferring that there’s a coup, and claims internet reports that putin’s bodyguard viktor zolotov was mudered.. Does anybody know anything about what’s going on? Posted by: PeteCaroll | Mar 15 2015 19:28 utc | 93 Dont be a jerk by spreading stupid lies by russophobes. Posted by: Anonymous | Mar 15 2015 20:18 utc | 94 @87/88 mina.. that is what yul and i were mentioning @70 and 63.. bonehead harper bringing canuck stupidity to a new level while embracing everything he is either told to do, or too stupid to recognize he is helping to do.. Posted by: james | Mar 15 2015 20:23 utc | 95 @94 Aslund is not just a run of the mill russophobe, like that journalist turned Canadian politician Chrystia Freeland, he is an economist that celebrated the ‘transition’ to capitalism that was the theft, plunder and rape of Russia during the post-1990 Yeltsin period. Their was a virtual cottage industry that was dedicated to the ‘scientific’ study of this ‘transition’ called … transitology (i kid you not). Seemingly harmless and neutral academics such as Aslund and more significantly people like Jeffery Sachs and his ‘comrades’ at the Center for International Development at Harvard University were literally feeding off the suffering, death, and did i say plunder of Russia’s vast wealth. Posted by: thirsty | Mar 15 2015 20:36 utc | 96 The Obama administration is still afraid of the Israel lobby. Posted by: Willy2 | Mar 15 2015 23:55 utc | 97 I didn’t thing Louis Proyect could sink much further, but in his latest CounterPunch article – print edition – he
Ridiculous! These slaves, kidnapped from their homelands in Africa and held on slave ships to be tortured and eventually sold in the Posted by: guest77 | Mar 16 2015 0:47 utc | 98 03/15/2015-20:22 Posted by: Fete | Mar 16 2015 3:31 utc | 99 |
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