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March 6, 2015
Open Thread 2015-12

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There is a surprisingly good article by Jana Bakunina in the latest edition of the New Statesman, a mainstream supposedly left-of-center UK weekly, entitled “Why do Russians still support Vladimir Putin?” She includes some amazing statistics on such things as crime, birth rates and pensions. “Average pensions (stated in 1992 prices) went up from 694 roubles a month in 2000 to 9,918 roubles in 2012.” Good stuff to be equipped with when confronting Guardian/NYT types.

Posted by: Lochearn | Mar 6 2015 19:41 utc | 1

Russia Begins War Games In The North Caucasus, Crimea, And On The Ukraine Border
http://warnewsupdates.blogspot.com/2015/03/russia-begins-war-games-in-north.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+WarNewsUpdates+(War+News+Updates)

Posted by: ALAN | Mar 6 2015 20:19 utc | 2

Here’s the link:
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2015/03/why-do-russians-support-still-support-vladimir-putin

Posted by: okie farmer | Mar 6 2015 20:20 utc | 3

Remember, Kill Chain
By Andrew Cockburn, at Counterpunch
The detailed, time-sequenced quotes from the US military persons as they pursued the mission are incredibly blood thirsty. The pilot, especially, is lusting for killing.
The gamification of war should be deeply unsettling to all in the US with even the rudiments of moral conscience, military and civilian.
These actions (and so many others) are war crimes, without a shadow of a doubt But I guess they just get added to the towering stack…is it tall enough yet to tip over?

Posted by: Benu | Mar 6 2015 20:55 utc | 4

Willy2 @ 5
I had to strap on my skeptical hat to visit the moonieTimes…but that is an interesting article. Absolutely a hit piece with lots of anonymous attributions (I admit that I did not listen to the supposed actual recordings), but I’m apt to believe it. To my mind Hillary and Petraeus own the Libya fiasco. She rolled the dice with people’s lives, with an entire country, and lost. Looks to me like he was running guns to Syria, and selecting and outfitting the core group of his Einsatzgruppen — the Libyan and Tunisian “thugs and terrorists” who would later brand themselves IS and ISIL and then, to emphasize the hated Syria that-we-must-invade-ASAP, changed by the NYT to ISIS.
Hubris and arrogance mixed with unbridled ambition and psychopathy. To my mind, Libya is the flaming tire that disqualifies both from higher office.
And where do these people get off with the idea that you can just go in and topple another country…?
“U.S. policy during the revolution supported regime change through peaceful means, in line with UNSCR 1973 policy and NATO mission goals,” the State Department said. “We consistently emphasized at the time that Moammar Gadhafi had to step down and leave Libya as an essential component of the transition.”
Clinton/Rice/Power. Those three put me in mind of a coven of more famous, if less well-groomed, witches:
from Macbeth
A dark Cave. In the middle, a Caldron boiling. Thunder.
Fillet of a fenny snake,
In the caldron boil and bake;
Eye of newt, and toe of frog,
Wool of bat, and tongue of dog,
Adder’s fork, and blind-worm’s sting,
Lizard’s leg, and owlet’s wing,—
For a charm of powerful trouble,
Like a hell-broth boil and bubble.

Posted by: Benu | Mar 6 2015 21:47 utc | 6

And where do these people get off with the idea that you can just go in and topple another country…?
I guess they think “if Putin can do it, so too can I.” Difference is, they have to leave after four or eight years. Putin gets to do it for decades since he’s president in perpetuity. What a nice deal if you can arrange it.
Go Jeb!

Posted by: Cold N. Holefield | Mar 6 2015 22:13 utc | 7

you can’t get better than God’s wrath
http://english.al-akhbar.com/content/mers-kills-10-saudi-government-broadens-health-campaign

Posted by: Mina | Mar 6 2015 22:26 utc | 8

Difference is, they have to leave after four or eight years.

They may leave, but the policy goes on. Because it is the policy of the shadow government, which they just implement.

Posted by: lysias | Mar 6 2015 23:17 utc | 9

A really original article by Dmitry Orlov, when the number of originals is so desperately few:
http://russia-insider.com/en/2015/03/04/4094

Posted by: Lochearn | Mar 6 2015 23:26 utc | 10

PIIGS and BRICS unite!

Posted by: nmb | Mar 6 2015 23:55 utc | 11

Muslim man shot dead in Dallas while taking pictures of snow

Another Muslim man has been shot dead in the United States while he was taking pictures of the snow with his family in Dallas, Texas.
Ahmed al-Jumaili, 36, who came to the US from Iraq about one month ago, was killed in a shooting incident on Thursday.
The victim died from his injuries after he was transported to Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital, Dallas Police Department Spokeswoman Monica Cordova said.
Witnesses said the Iraqi man was killed when he was with his wife, Zahara, who wears an Islamic head scarf. The couple got married 16 months ago.
A group of men started firing a gun and some nearby cars were also hit in the incident.

Too many Americans love to hate … and of those, too many love to kill those whom they love to hate. Probably Xtians.
That piece from Cockburn’s book is Chelsea Manning’s Iraq video all over again. New! Improved! Now with no humans onscene! As though that even made a difference. The original published by Julian Assange. Manning, Assange. No body remembers their names. No Oscars for them. No press agents. No ice cream and cake. No problem. Nothing will happen. Nothing will be done. The Wehrmacht has been, is now, and will be (?) safe from those of us who claim to be revolted and repulsed by its kill chain. Except Kathy Kelly. (Who?)
The Nihilist Nobel Peace Prize Laureate and his Wehrmacht will grow larger, spend more on diabolical machines, kill more babies, get richer?
Hey! Hey! Obama-fay! How many kids dja kill today?

Posted by: jfl | Mar 7 2015 0:32 utc | 12

@jfl #12:
Wearing an Islamic head scarf in Texas? Not a good idea. Same as Charlie Hebdo continually publishing provocative cartoons mocking the Prophet was not a good idea.
I don’t expect I will ever visit Texas in my whole life. Too much craziness.

Posted by: Demian | Mar 7 2015 0:54 utc | 13

Reposting three open threadish comments here
chuckvw @4: The following was deleted after I posted it under that Guardian pro-Nazi puff piece:

About that symbol on the van of the Dirlewanger Brigade:

Historian Martin Windrow wrote that in summer of 1944 Dirlewanger led his “butchers, rapists and looters into action against the Warsaw Uprising, and quickly committed … unspeakable crimes.” In Warsaw, Dirlewanger participated in the Wola massacre, together with police units rounding up and shooting some 40,000 civilians, most of them in just two days. In the same Wola district, Dirlewanger burned three hospitals with patients inside, while the nurses were “whipped, gang-raped and finally hanged naked, together with the doctors” to the accompaniment of music. Later, “they drank, raped and murdered their way through the Old Town, slaughtering civilians and fighters alike without distinction of age or sex.”


OffGuardian entertainingly rips the Guardian for its neo-Nazi Ukraine grrls puff piece. Conclusion of the piece:

It’d be nice if this article and the policy behind it were a one-off. We all know it isn’t. The “normalising of the unthinkable” is the prevailing campaign in western media. Nazis are being divested of their untouchable status and repackaged as freedom fighters. Our governments are sending US and UK troops to train these Hitler-worshippers to kill their fellow Ukrainians.
And the Guardian, flagship of the liberal left, has nothing to say about that at all.

Posted by: fairleft | Mar 7 2015 2:05 utc | 14

Holefield @7

I guess they think “if Putin can do it, so too can I.”

Any examples? I can’t think of any. Anyway, the glaring example is being set by the US hyperpower, which shows that the right illegal regime overthrow, the right aggressive war, and the right war crimes go unpunished. Russia currently is an example of ‘resistance to the neocon empire is punished severely’. Hopefully Russia and its number one ally China set a needed example of effective resistance and eventually establish a more peaceful less austerity-oriented multipolar world soon.

Posted by: fairleft | Mar 7 2015 2:15 utc | 15

@6 In the piece about a month ago, there were quite a few names from then active and retired officers involved with the run up to Libya.

Posted by: NotTimothyGeithner | Mar 7 2015 2:52 utc | 16

@ 7 CH: This might prove enlighting ;
http://www.amazon.com/Overthrow-Americas-Century-Regime-Change/dp/0805082409

Posted by: ben | Mar 7 2015 3:58 utc | 17

@13-Wearing an Islamic head scarf in Texas? Not a good idea. Same as Charlie Hebdo continually publishing provocative cartoons mocking the Prophet was not a good idea.
It’s hardly the same, but thanks for being an ignoramus and picking up the loaded mention of a head scarf and running with it.

Posted by: Nana2007 | Mar 7 2015 4:42 utc | 18

Good lecture by R.D. Wolff on real world economics..
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017249537

Posted by: ben | Mar 7 2015 4:50 utc | 19

03/06/2015-13:22
Russian Spring
“The real time information by our intelligence from near-front zone on Ukrainian side does not allow us feel optimistic that this point of Minsk agreements (withdrawal of artillery) would be accomplished by Kiyev any time soon”, said Eduard Basurin, the deputy of Commander in Chief of Donetsk Republic Defense.
Basurin added that, that for the past day the Ukrainian forces launched intensive activities of fortifying positions and rotating storm units. Specifically, en route to Dzerzhinsk, active traffic of delivering artillery ammo trucks was noted. A group of haulers left Dzerzhinsk towing cannons “Ruta”.
“These examples support our apprehensions that, under disguise of pulling off heavy weapons, the Ukrainian side fulfils clandestine rotation”.
According to Basurin, Kiyev is also breaching ceasefire in Donetsk airport. In particular, Friday, a new shootout took place leaving one combatant wounded.
Similar, the head of Lugansk Republic, Igor` Plotnitskiy, declared that the Ukrainian forces have not so far withdrawn even half of artillery units. “We are informed of 29 dismantled division, and that they announced of dismantling other 35 today”, said Plotnitskiy.

Posted by: Fete | Mar 7 2015 5:28 utc | 20

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-31773357
Iraqi forces have pushed Islamic State (IS) fighters out of the western town of al-Baghdadi, the US military says.
The town, which was taken over by IS last month, is about 8km (5 miles) from a base housing hundreds of US troops who are training Iraqi soldiers.
Iraqi forces moved in after “precise and effective” air strikes by the US-led coalition, a centcom statement said.
~~~
Iraqi forces said they were making progress in their major offensive aimed at retaking the city of Tikrit, which lies between Mosul and the capital, Baghdad.
The operation to recapture the city involves some 30,000 soldiers and Shia militiamen.
Military commanders said the combined force had moved into the town of al-Dour on the southern outskirts of Tikrit.

Posted by: okie farmer | Mar 7 2015 5:49 utc | 21

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/07/us/menendez-expected-to-face-federal-corruption-charges.html
By KATE ZERNIKE and MATT APUZZO 8:57 PM ET
The Justice Department is expected to file charges against Senator Robert Menendez, a New Jersey Democrat, in an investigation that has focused on his ties to a Florida eye doctor, an official said.

Posted by: okie farmer | Mar 7 2015 6:03 utc | 22

@fairleft Thanks. Dirlewanger wasn’t just your average Nazi butcher… But I guess he is a role model for some.

Posted by: chuckvw | Mar 7 2015 6:31 utc | 24

@fairleft Also, I posted a comment below that article pointing out the meaning of the iconography on the van. It wasn’t removed, but I didn’t go into details about Dirlewanger. Figured people would google him. I post there as chuckusa. The legion of keyboard commandos have fairly taken the place over!

Posted by: chuckvw | Mar 7 2015 6:41 utc | 25

@6: The Washington Times is indeed a very suspicious source for news. They brought the story to (rightfully) damage Hillary. In that regard it perfectly fits the Republican agenda to destroy Hillary Clinton.
Whether or not Hillary becomes president, it’s good to dig up Hillary’s skeletons. Hillary’s (recent) past simply should undergo more scrutiny.

Posted by: Willy2 | Mar 7 2015 8:20 utc | 26

#1 and #3 Thanks for the tip. That New Statesman article is certainly a rare piece to find in western media. This is information that was available for a number of years now but one would never see reference to it in the MSM in their nonstop demonization of Putin. Anatoly Karlin (darussophile, still up I think but no longer an active blog) has a series of articles on Russian demographics and pointed out that the population started growing again (or least stopped declining) about 2008.

Posted by: ToivoS | Mar 7 2015 9:54 utc | 27

Is Saudi Arabia starting to reconcile with a new version of the Moslem Brotherhood promoted by Turkey and Qatar?
Will Qatar and Turkey succeed in enrolling the Al Nusra fighters as the Moslem Brotherhood II army to fight the Syrian army?
Do they expect this new force that they will arm able to neutralize ISIS?
If they succeed will Al Sissi and Bashar Al Assad be obliged to include elements of the Moslem Brotherhood II in their government?
As Iran is more sympathetic to the MB than it is to Al Sissi, will it condone and promote that collaboration in Egypt, Yemen and Syria or in the contrary it will oppose the evolution of a Sunni block ( Turkey, Qatar, Saudi Arabia) that ultimately will confront it? Will it start a war with Israel to disrupt this block and oblige it to intervene?
How will Bashar al Assad react to such a change that may not in his favor?
Lots of issues in 2015…

Posted by: Virgile | Mar 7 2015 11:42 utc | 28

Virgile, what’s Moslem Brotherhood II?
You asked some interesting questions – for sure.

Posted by: okie farmer | Mar 7 2015 12:50 utc | 29

Okie
That’s only a speculation, but some elements are already appearing pointing in that direction
Moslem Brotherhood II would be a new version of the MB revamped by Turkey and Qatar where they will drop many of their threats, such as toppling the GCC kings and emirs and insisting on an strictly Islamic government. They will have to commit to share power with religious and ethnical minorities. A semi-democracy.
Turkey wants to mould the Moslem Brotherhood ideology on its own so it becomes the norm in the region. It will be supported financially by all the GCC + Turkey. The West and Iran may not object as they would prefer that to a military or extremist regime.
Militarily Turkey is already training Syrian rebels and Qatar is luring with its money the disenchanted Al Nusra fighters.
The purpose is to build a fighting forces with the same ideology as the Moslem Brotherhood II to force the Syria government to share power with it.
It would be interesting to see if this plan would succeed and how Iran, Egypt, Syria and Yemen will react to that.

Posted by: Virgile | Mar 7 2015 13:25 utc | 30

Virgile, you filled that out nicely. Kinda what I thought, but there’s a little bit of subterfuge in what you describe, so Iran, particularly, and Syria may not buy it.

Posted by: okie farmer | Mar 7 2015 13:47 utc | 31

@Benu #4
Indeed, Alexander Cockburn is just about the only reason to ever look at Counterpunch these days.
The article is great, as usual, and highlights how the US military has succumbed to Kafka-esque bureaucracy – only instead of forms and pens, it is missiles and satellites.

Posted by: ǝn⇂ɔ | Mar 7 2015 14:51 utc | 32

fukusi[ndia] joint op in sri lanka *mission accomplished*
*Sri Lankan Foreign Minister Mangala Samaraweera’s three-day trip to the US last week highlighted the rapid shift in relations between the two countries since President Mithripala Sirisena took office in Colombo, after defeating Mahinda Rajapakse in the January 8 presidential election.
Hostile to Rajapakse’s close ties with China, the Obama administration supported Sirisena’s installation. His entire campaign, which involved his defection from Rajapakse’s cabinet and the gathering of several parties, including the pro-US United National Party (UNP), around his presidential candidacy, was a US regime-change operation aimed at shifting Colombo’s foreign policy away from Beijing and toward Washington.
Sirisena’s government is steadily tilting Sri Lankan policy in line with the Obama administration’s “pivot to Asia”—aimed at undermining China and encircling it militarily in preparation for war. Following the Sri Lankan election, the US has speedily moved to integrate Colombo into the “pivot.” The Obama administration sent its Assistant Secretary of State for South and Central Asian Affairs Nisha Biswal to Sri Lanka early this month.* [1]
sri lanka is *reviewing all chinese projects* and its new fm told xi jing ping *fuck off, no more chinese subs here !*
****************************
here’s an excerpt of chinese commenters discussion on the sri lanka debacle.
[not verbatan !!]
poster1
*the sri lankans forgets their pain so soon when their wound has barely healed*
[meaning no sooner than sri lanka crushed the ltte when they start dumping china] [2]
p.s.
this comment is a bit unfair coz its not prez Rajapakse who dump china , he got deposed by fukusi patsies and there’s still a war crime charge hanging over his head. !
poster2
*hell i think its china who’s forgetting the pain so soon …..,
never learned its lesson with nk, vn.
now that myanmar and sri lanka have also been turned, all those billions of aid and investments will go down to the drain…again.
the murcunts are *smarter*, they know *a friend in need is a friend indeed*, they keep manufacturing enemies for their *friends*, so they keep coming back to uncle sham for *protection*.
china goes around building infrastructure, dams, high speed rail, cannals the lot, . to everybodys delights, but whats to guarantee that they wont kick us out the moment its completed, especially when they get a memo from washington ?
china is spending 500 billions digging cannal in nicaraqua, people say that chinese are foraging in murcunts backyard , some of us are even feeling rather smug at the suggestion.
if this is true why aint there any reponse from fukus except for some ngo orchestrated prostest ?
for all i know the murcunts are chuckling to themselves right now !
whats there to stop them from pulling out another regime change to get their man in place one the project is completed, who immediately ask china to fuck off, turn over the god damned thing to uncle sham….ala iraq, sudan , afpak, myanmar, sri lanka etc etc.
can china send a carrier battle group up the panama then ?
china lost more than 200b in the libya regime change barely two yrs back, kaput, just like that .
once again, it couldnt do shit.
without military backup, such daylight robberies would keep coming.
does china dare to station troops in nicaraqua ?
**********************************
then this perfidious albion, that BritishBushitCunt bill hayton just barged into a press conf and…….
[1]
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/02/19/slfm-f19.html
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/02/25/siri-f25.html
[2]
who’r the ltte ?
https://ltteirony.wordpress.com/2013/03/27/world-must-know-how-india-helped-ltte-commit-terror-in-sri-lanka-for-3-decades/
https://therearenosunglasses.wordpress.com/2015/01/11/the-cia-mossad-ltte-link-in-the-rajiv-gandhi-killing/

Posted by: denk | Mar 7 2015 18:40 utc | 33

now that nefarious putin has gone too far
weaselpecker

Posted by: dan of steele | Mar 7 2015 19:27 utc | 34

War. It is war. WW 3.
In the past 2o years, war has been fought under the radar, affecting little (as we are supposed to feel) US-uk, EU citizens, others in the ME, who blithely continue buying property, smart phones, building swimming pools, sending their kids to private school, or, for others, sinking below the poverty line, not starving exactly, but deprived of many basics and facing a no-future scenario, miserable life, early death, thrown into low-life survival circuit.
Gulf war 1 Desert Shield (1990) > Yougoslavia, > Afghanistan (o1) > Iraq (03) > Yemen, Pakistan, > Lybia > Syria, destruction.. Add in Panama, 1989, Somalia, ongoing against Palestine, and I don’t know what all.. How many millions of deaths? 6? What a sick joke…
Now the Hegemon attacks Russia thru a proxy war. Crunch time.
WW1 led directly to WW2 (Treaty of Versailles), WW3 is being fought by less deathly, spectacular means (it appears..) What is happening is both ‘hidden’ and ‘spun’..buried in a huge pile of specific issues, obfuscations, rationalisations, so called ‘complicated matters’ like terrorism, sovereignity, finance, laws about land, etc. Contractors are paid for, so as to avoid mobilisation. Big finance (rapacious to be sure) nevertheless continues to pay dividends and tax by stealing from many.. Big Corps sit on the fence holding out for profits but they cannot, for now, have a direct influence, as has been amply shown. (To actually earn money by for ex. extraction of resources they need a stable environment.) World debt is about to explode and bring down the entire finance system. Some everywhere see oppos for scams. International law has broken down. Everyone on the stage pretends.
Cheers! Drank too much bad champagne, have a better brew on my tab. Outside the bar, cold rainy street, rubbish swirls, a cat mewls, the cab you called is nowhere to be seen. Or is is oppresively hot and thunderous and Malia has closed shop. Two children fight over a stick of chewing gum, Afua still stands hoping for a client, she has nothing else to do.

Posted by: Noirette | Mar 7 2015 19:44 utc | 35

Latest from the saker:

TEHRAN (FNA)- Iraqi Special Forces said they have arrested several ISIL’s foreign military advisors, including American, Israeli and Arab nationals in an operation in Mosul in the Northern parts of the country.
The Iraqi forces said they have retrieved four foreign passports, including those that belonged to American and Israeli nationals and one that belonged to the national of a Persian Gulf Cooperation Council (PGCC) member-state, from ISIL’s military advisors.
The foreign advisors were arrested in a military operation in Tal Abta desert near Mosul city.
Last year, a senior aide to Russian President Vladimir Putin accused Mossad of training ISIL terrorists operating in Iraq and Syria.
Alexander Prokhanov said that Mossad is also likely to have transferred some of its spying experiences to the ISIL leadership, adding that Israel’s military advisors could be assisting the Takfiri terrorists.
Prokhanov said ISIL is a byproduct of US policies in the Middle East.
ISIL is a tool at the hands of the United States. They tell the Europeans that if we (the Americans) do not intervene, ISIL will cause you harm,” he said, adding that Iran and Russia are the prime targets of the ISIL.
“They launched their first terror attack against us just a few days back in Chechnya,” he said, stressing that the ISIL ideology has got nothing to do with the Islam practiced in Iran and some other Muslim countries in the Middle East region.
Prokhanov said the United States and Israel are one and the same when it comes to supporting a terror organization like the ISIL.

Posted by: Nana2007 | Mar 7 2015 20:16 utc | 36

Obama told Russia’s former prime minister Medvedev to “wait after the elections” before he would be able to improve the relationship with Russia but the Republicans taking over the House & Senate seem to have derailed that initiative.
I remembered one of the guests of Scott Horton brought up this news and I GOOGLED the words “obama tells russia’s medvedev more flexibility after election” and a number of weblinks popped up:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/26/us-nuclear-summit-obama-medvedev-idUSBRE82P0JI20120326
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/9167332/Barack-Obama-microphone-gaffe-Ill-have-more-flexibility-after-election.html
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/03/president-obama-asks-medvedev-for-space-on-missile-defense-after-my-election-i-have-more-flexibility/
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/mar/26/obama-medvedev-space-nuclear
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-tells-medvedev-solution-on-missile-defense-is-unlikely-before-elections/2012/03/26/gIQASoblbS_story.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JpPU-SwcbE

Posted by: Willy2 | Mar 7 2015 20:16 utc | 37

Interesting developments with the OSCE from Christoff Lehmann:

The Defense Ministry of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic informed the press that representatives of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) came under artillery fire on Friday, stating that OSCE officials had confirmed the incident.
The region around Donetsk Airport has been one of the hot-spots of the military confrontations in Ukraine since Kiev began launching its punitive anti-terrorism operation against the regions which rejected the 2014 coup d’etat in Kiev.
The OSCE staff were carrying out work at the Donetsk Airport when the mission was targeted by artillery fire that originated from a region that is being controlled by military forces loyal to the Ukrainian government in Kiev.
The spokesman for the Donetsk People’s Republic’s (DPR) Defense Ministry, Eduard Basurin noted that this was no isolated incident. He called on the government in Kiev to adhere to the Minsk agreement, including the withdrawal of heavy weaponry.

Posted by: Nana2007 | Mar 7 2015 21:02 utc | 38

Noirette at 35
I wholeheartedly agree with your sentiments. And I found your last paragraph extremely moving.

Posted by: Benu | Mar 8 2015 1:08 utc | 39

The US State Department’s special envoy for Syria, Daniel Rubinstein, is moving on to become US Ambassador to Tunisia – the number 1 country of origin of foreign jihadists in Syria.
I will leave it to you to decide what he will be getting up to in his new role..

Posted by: Pat Bateman | Mar 8 2015 1:09 utc | 40

Nana2007 @38
The UN and its OSCE fiddling about in the ruins and writing their pussy-ass reports on their MacBook Airs reminds of an episode from the original Star Trek called “A Taste of Armageddon.” It’s the one in which the war has been going on forever and when called, the citizens of both sides show up to the disintegration chamber. Zap. Captain Kirk no like.
Worse than useless. Complicit. Goddamn them all to hell.
Where’s Captain Kirk? (and yes, I know that’s a song 😉

Posted by: Benu | Mar 8 2015 1:18 utc | 41

ISIS Bulldozes Ancient Assyrian City: Iraqi Gov’t

“Islamic State members came to the Nimrud archaeological city and looted the valuables in it and then they proceeded to level the site to the ground,” a tribal source from near Mosul, where ancient Nimrud is located, told Reuters.

Who kows if it is true, but the barbarity of the ISIS is portrayed as approaching that of the English, Spanish, and Portugese religious fundamentalist conquerers in the Americas.
Doesn’t get any worse than that.

Posted by: jfl | Mar 8 2015 2:02 utc | 42

jfl @ 42
Isn’t that what the US did at Ur…or was it Nineveh…during the Iraq war? I seem to recall having read that they covered the site with gravel and packed it down with big machines and parked some tanks and APCs there.

Posted by: Benu | Mar 8 2015 2:14 utc | 43

“Iraq: 30,000 Sunnis flee as Shiite Militias, Army, approach Tikrit”
http://www.juancole.com/2015/03/shiite-militias-approach.html

Posted by: Willy2 | Mar 8 2015 3:50 utc | 44

@43
I think there was some ‘off-hand’ damage and destruction to Iraqi ancient sites in Iraq, and the National Museum was looted … no worries though, Google made a virtual National Museum, with pictures of the stuff stolen, one of its first complicit moves in service to the US State Department. And dome of the stuff stolen by US ‘military contractors’ was even returned. Imagine that. Elgin Marbles still in Britain, aren’t they? Northern Europeans have been looting Greece continuously for at least two centuries right up to the present.
But the ISIS and its Kalifa, like the Conquistadors and their Dominicans and the Puritans in New England, are/were out purposefully to destroy the world of the heathens. Historic Western Xtian Imperialism and modern Middle Eastern Muslim Imperialism : two peas in a pod.

Posted by: jfl | Mar 8 2015 4:12 utc | 45

@45
You might look at the Islamic State’s actions in a more ME context than a Western viewpoint.
Hatra was a Parthian/Persian controlled city originally so its destruction may be aimed at Iran and the destruction of the Assyrian city of Nimrud may be aimed at the growing Assyrian Christian militias in Iraq.
This would make these actions more political and psychological than religious or imperialists like the West.

Posted by: Wayoutwest | Mar 8 2015 5:37 utc | 46

Looks like the whodunit is being solved. This from fortruss:
All four appear to be natives of Ingushetia. They were arrested in the Republic of Ingushetia by FSB Special Operations troops. Dadayev served with the rank of Sergeant (though some reports claim he was the deputy commander) in the Sever [North] battalion of the Republic of Chechnya Interior Troops. Yusupov served in the same unit. Anzur Gubashev worked in a private security firm providing protection for supermarkets…
If they were acting on their own this could be a rogue operation of pro-Russian soldiers associated with Chechnya. If so then it looks like an open and independent investigation in finding out who killed Nemtsov.

Posted by: ToivoS | Mar 8 2015 9:44 utc | 48

@48
They did it for the hell of it? Who paid for the hit? My money’s on the same guys who ordered/paid for [the attempted Putin assassination that brought down] MH17 … the Criminals In Action.

Posted by: jfl | Mar 8 2015 12:18 utc | 49

Problems with motive ..
Right from the start it was fanciful (imho) to suppose that any of the usual suspects would assassinate Nemtstov. He was on their side, after all, against for ex. ‘Russian agression in Ukraine.’ As for Putin, Nemtstov murdered does him more damage than N alive, the idea seems nuts. Even N’s party and mates have expressed doubt / strongly questioned or denied that the Russian Gvmt, or Putin, had anything to do with it.
The argument that the N murder was carried out to ‘destabilise Russia’, – i.e. done by Russophobes – makes little sense, result Russia destabilised? Not. It becomes hard to spin, the only weak bleating talking point is Russia is a lawless, violent country, ppl can get murdered on a bridge next to the Kremlin, so Russia eevill
Why would Chechens (or Inguishians – whatever they are called in English) target Nemstov? A nobody figure? Or as anti-Putin..?
Radio Free Europe – Radio Liberty (no less !! )
But the possibility of a Chechen connection should not be dismissed out of hand, given Nemtsov’s repeated criticism of Chechen Republic head Ramzan Kadyrov, and the fact that since 2011, security personnel loyal to Kadyrov have reportedly engaged with total impunity in abductions and killings in Moscow. Alternatively, Kadyrov’s men may have killed Nemtsov at Russian President Vladimir Putin’s behest.
The last sentence is obviously a sop to its mandate.
Snippet:
The website Caucasus Knot recalls that four years ago Kadyrov publicly called for Nemtsov to be imprisoned in light of his role in the mass protests in Moscow in December 2010. Nemtsov responded by branding Kadyrov “a psychologically very sick man” in need of urgent medical care.
http://www.rferl.org/content/caucasus-report-did-kadyrov-kill-nemtsov/26875744.html

Posted by: Noirette | Mar 8 2015 16:05 utc | 50

N@50
It has been obvious the Kadyrow is quite insane for years and this may be his latest episode of mania he appears to think will improve his standing with the elites in Moscow.
I’m sure Putin is cringing and fuming about this possibility because he appointed this nut to rule in Chechnya.

Posted by: Wayoutwest | Mar 8 2015 16:42 utc | 51

@51 wow.. keep the conspiracy theories going… It has been obvious the usa foreign policy is quite insane for years and this may be their latest episode of mania to think it will improve there standing with the elites in Moscow.

Posted by: james | Mar 8 2015 16:57 utc | 52

Right from the start it was fanciful*** (LOL) to suppose that any of the usual suspects would assassinate Nemtstov.
There certainly were several of the usual cretins that posted a coupla days worth of “fanciful”*** commentary in that vein (Bozo the University of HBO-trained Ballistics Expert for example)
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*** Just checked with a linguistics friend – she says “utterly retarded” is the correct scientific/technical term in this instance.
———
Still nice to see confirmation that all the “Fanciful” spittle-filled speculation was in the end just the usual MOA cretins being their predictable utterly retarded selves

Posted by: FP | Mar 8 2015 17:47 utc | 53

BTW no need for non-cretinous non-retarded MOAers to be offended
It’s just the cretinous utterly retarded ones I’m talkin about

Posted by: FP | Mar 8 2015 17:53 utc | 54

@50
At least one of the guys arrested is listed as ‘private security’. I have to think this is a paid hit. Who paid? Cui bono? I cannot think of a Russian actor who’s benefited. Hard to see any benefit for the Ulrainian fascists, or federalists. The Criminals In Action may well feel they’ve received ‘their’ money’s worth just in having any ‘well-known’ figure murdered within sight of the Kremlin – especially is the ‘well-known’ person is an inessential member of Putin’s opposition.
I don’t see any real benefit at all to Kadyrov, unless he really is ‘a psychologically very sick man’, or at least a very stupid one.
And I have to discount the source … Radio Free Europe?! And so predictable … Putin, or his best friend in Chechnya, dunnit.
And no mention of Graham Fuller, the ‘best friend’ of any Chechen, anyone in the Caucasus, anyone on the planet … with a grudge and a gun. And Fuller has the gun(s) … and much more … if they don’t.
Anyway … somebody paid to whack Nemtsov … and not just whack him but whack him to specification … dictated the circumstances and provided the wherewhithal to accomplish same. My bet remains with the Criminals In Action.
Over our lifetime … the CIA and I were both born in 1947 … the Criminals In Action’s ‘plausible deniability’ has evolved into ‘probable responsibility’ when and wherever a crime is committed that can in any way be seen to benefit their ’cause’.
And with the level of their funding they may actually do some crimes ‘just for the fun of it’ … or just to keep in practice.

Posted by: jfl | Mar 8 2015 19:58 utc | 55

The source? lol
well here’s the NYT
clearly they must lying about who and what the arrestees are, cos they’re saying the same thing
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/09/world/europe/suspect-in-russian-politicians-killing-blows-himself-up-report-says.html?_r=0

All the men detained so far were Chechens, the reports said. . . . .
Mr. Barakhoev revealed some new information about the suspects, including the fact that Mr. Dadayev had worked as a law enforcement officer, serving as deputy commander of a battalion of Interior Ministry troops assigned to fight Islamist insurgents. It was unclear whether he was still with the unit.
The other main suspect, Mr. Kubashev, had worked for a private security company in Moscow as a guard in a hypermarket, according to Mr. Barakhoev. Both are between 30 and 35 years old, he said.

so, the source is obviously Mr Albert Barakhoev, the acting head of the Security Council in Ingushetia, a region that borders Chechnya, was quoted by the state-run news agencies, Tass and RIA Novosti, as saying the arrests took place there.
So sources =

  • Mr Albert Barakhoev, the acting head of the Security Council in Ingushetia
  • Tass and
  • RIA Novosti
    NOT RadioFree Europe
  • Posted by: FP | Mar 8 2015 20:06 utc | 56

    According to
    http://thesaker.is/important-developments-in-the-nemtsov-murder-case/

  • Zaur Dadaev (Заур Дадаев) – the supposed killer who, according to unconfirmed reports, was the deputy commander of the Chechen special operations battalion “Vostok”.
    7 arrestees so far
    There had to be probably least 10 involved in this, on the day,
    not to mention at several others involved in planning the hit: obtaining the Moscow Municipal Street Cleaning Truck (+ Driver?) for example, (something certain of the more “fanciful”*** jackasses commenting here have done sterling work trying to distract people from thinking about) as well as those involved in hacking/spying/observing/controlling the traffic cameras
  • Posted by: FP | Mar 8 2015 20:29 utc | 57

    Special Battalions Vostok and Zapad
    From Wikipedia
    Special Battalions Vostok and Zapad (Russian: Специальные батальоны “Восток” и “Запад”, lit. “East” and “West”) were two Spetznaz units of Russian military intelligence (GRU) based in Chechnya. The overwhelming majority of personnel were ethnic Chechens, while the command personnel were mixed Russian and Chechens.

    Posted by: FP | Mar 8 2015 20:31 utc | 58

    So
    Mr Albert Barakhoev, the acting head of the Security Council in Ingushetia, and Russian News agencies Tass and RIA Novosti are claiming Zaur Dadaev was the deputy commander of the Chechen special operations battalion “Vostok”, a Spetznaz unit of Russian military intelligence (GRU) based in Chechnya
    Grrrrrr!
    goddamn Russian Russophobes

    Posted by: FP | Mar 8 2015 20:34 utc | 59

    Saker UPDATE: Russian source now have indicated that the security services are looking another 4 men suspected of having provided the weapon used in the crime.
    So 11 “suspects so far
    Judging on official Russian statements none of these 11 seem to include whoever it was organised the obtaining of the Moscow Municipal Street Cleaning Truck (+ Driver?) nor has there been any mention of arresting any of those involved in hacking/spying/observing/controlling the traffic cameras

    Posted by: FP | Mar 8 2015 20:51 utc | 60

    That Saker guy is sooooooooooo obviously a Russophore, making all those russophobic statements

    Posted by: FP | Mar 8 2015 20:52 utc | 61

    Balmy is back, more ranting, shorter handle. We now see what MiniTrue has for talking points. Apparently they are the right guys. It’s… exactly who do you think is responsible? You seem to imply but never say.
    Someone bought themselves some Chechens, we’ll have to see who. They do not seem to have gotten their money’s worth.
    Bridge with multiple surveillance cameras turned out to be a pretty bad choice. Seems like former gangster and police official Aleksey Sherstobitov was right after all — not totally professional, Caucasus angle.

    Posted by: rufus magister | Mar 8 2015 21:06 utc | 62

    @ 62 rufus
    Someone bought themselves some Chechens. Imagine that. Who would want trouble in the Caucus? Cui Bono? And as to the bridge being a poor choice? It is unless you want your patsies caught. Or the mastermind is Boris Badanoff. Then the trail leads to…Chechnya. Stirring up trouble in another front. Somehow I think there is more to this than meets the eye. I doubt we will ever know the whole story. It will play out in a series of incidents over several weeks or months.

    Posted by: Scott | Mar 8 2015 21:16 utc | 63

    Roofies — who’s projecting Balmy? I’m not surprised you would need to resort to such methods, you seem a thoroughly detestable sort.
    You’re denying they caught the right folks? On what evidence? You’re willing to taunt us all with it, why fucking bother if its false?
    Totally Balmy. Incoherent, yet insulting. Again, keep working on Artist/Title, ok?

    Posted by: rufus magister | Mar 8 2015 21:26 utc | 64

    @ 68&69 @ PS
    Two quick things before I ignore you. First, it is grammatically incorrect for you to “imply” anything. The speaker infers, the listener implies. No juice box for you. Second, I fear you have misspelled your screen-name. You left out the “O” between the P and the S.
    @ 67 rufus
    You’re far too smart to dally with trolls. All they want is to distract and divide. Plus in their pathetic existence they need attention. And as an afterthought, if they fail to get results I suspect they will be fired. You try to reason with the pathologically unreasonable. I view them as spiders flailing in the toilet…mildly amusing…then flush. Now, back on point I still suspect a purposeful intent to cause trouble between Russia and Chechnya. Whatever is put out in public may be quite different than what is going on in private. I will look for unexplained deaths over the next few weeks? Months? I feel confident Russia will get the true culprits. If for no other reason than to send a message.

    Posted by: Scott | Mar 8 2015 22:17 utc | 65

    Scott at 70 — you’re right, I’m too often Spock when Worf is called for. It’s a failing I can live with though. I mean, look, it can’t even keep it’s handle straight. Can we get a diagnostic on that unit? One last try.
    Sorry if I over-estimated your intelligence and was unclear, you never stated who you thought ultimately responsible, i.e., who told the accused to do it? You have made implications, not clear statements on this topic.
    You have cited Russian authorities (once or twice, perhaps), but I do not think you drew the correct conclusions. I doubt your powers of reason and observation, though not your talent for instant, colorful abuse. Go with your strengths, right?

    Posted by: rufus magister | Mar 8 2015 23:24 utc | 66

    in re 74 – who cares?

    Posted by: rufus magister | Mar 9 2015 1:43 utc | 67

    @ 75 @ Clownboy LOL I’m well aware of the difference. It kept you silent and busy for over three hours. Mission accomplished. Good grief how many screen names do you use? And since I’m being a grammar Nazi…are you sure I “filed”? What a sad, pathetic, lonely life you must lead. I feel so sorry for you. What kind of human gets jollies by doing what you do? So sad. Another wasted life. And you feel clever doing what you do? Look in a mirror…self-examine. Seek help. I know it’s pointless talking to you. You’re a poorly pain clown. Must be paid…to do it for free is even more pathetic. Now, back on point. Fort Russ has a few nice posts to read and think about.
    @ 76 @ rufus
    Who cares? It does. No one else.

    Posted by: Scott | Mar 9 2015 2:18 utc | 68

    @ 32, this is my goto site when it comes to itemizing Yankee terror since 1945. In one simple page.
    http://www.the-philosopher.co.uk/whocares/popups/warcrimes.htm
    It’s already out-of-date.

    Posted by: ruralito | Mar 9 2015 2:48 utc | 69

    I mean @35, Noirette. @32, and Israel Shamir, ex-Jew.

    Posted by: ruralito | Mar 9 2015 2:52 utc | 70

    @ruralito #81:
    I don’t think the concept of “ex-Jew” makes any sense. A Jew converting to Christianity doesn’t stop him from being a Jew. He just becomes a different kind of Jew. It is the same as with me and Russian Orthodoxy. If I start going to Lutheran churches and stop going to Russian churches, that doesn’t stop me from still being Russian. (Since Shamir converted to Christianity, I guess he became baptized as an adult. As far as Israeli law is concerned, that means he is no longer a Jew. But Jewish religious doctrine still considers him to be a Jew. What it means to be a Jew is a complicated question, since the categories of Jewish ethnic, religious, and cultural identity overlap.)
    As far as I can tell, when it comes to the three main monotheistic religions, the only ones you can stop belonging to once you have been a member of them are Roman Catholicism and Islam. There is the concept of the lapsed Catholic, but there is no concept of a lapsed Russian Orthodox. Also, there is the concept of an Islamic apostate. But I’m pretty sure that if I told a Russian Orthodox priest that I am an atheist, he would still give me communion. So it is impossible for someone who is Russian Orthodox to become apostate. I think it is the same with Jews.

    Posted by: Demian | Mar 9 2015 3:28 utc | 71

    Balmy — whatever trivial, overstated points you raised got lost in your torrents of abuse. Were they relevant and well-founded, you’d be talking them about them, and how bloody clever you were, and not how you cited sources in order to hallucinate them.
    I ask some clear, direct questions, I get the run-around. You’re a bully who substitutes abusive hectoring for analysis. You call people out, and whine when they give you what for.
    You’re a useless waste of time, with no educational or comedic value. ‘Nuff said.

    Posted by: rufus magister | Mar 9 2015 3:43 utc | 72

    Balmy at 86 — didn’t you piss and moan at my victory lap at 62? It was short, but sweet. I didn’t want to rub it in too much. Well, not then anyway.

    Posted by: rufus magister | Mar 9 2015 4:38 utc | 73

    @82, it’s a conundrum. Is jewdihood inheritable? Hitler thought so. And most Jews. Of course we inherit our parents genes. But is there a genetic marker that points all the way back to the ancient Hebrew prophets? I don’t even think it matters.
    I sent an email to info@israelshamir.net for his opinion; maybe the great man will reply.

    Posted by: ruralito | Mar 9 2015 4:50 utc | 74

    in re 87 — More blather, just what we all needed, thanks!

    Posted by: rufus magister | Mar 9 2015 5:07 utc | 75

    only another 10 posts and you two can turn the page on this conversation, lol..

    Posted by: james | Mar 9 2015 6:05 utc | 76

    @6: The anonymous sources in post #5 are still working in the Pentagon and that’s why they leaked anonymous their information.

    Posted by: Willy2 | Mar 9 2015 7:38 utc | 77

    OKie
    I agree.
    It is certain that the Syria government as well a Egypt will not trust the Moslem Brotherhood’s transformation into a moderate islamic force. If the Moslem Brotherhood was corruptible, it may bow to Qatar’s promises of money and denounce their ideology. But I doubt that. They may play the game of renouncing just to survive but they will change back at the first opportunity. Egypt and Syria know that too well.
    As of Iran, it had hopes in Morsi, but the way it went I don’t think it will fall so easily again to a revamped Moslem Brotherhood especially if Saudi Arabia is behind it
    So while in theory Saudi Arabia and Qatar plan looks like a possibility, practically there are huge obstacles to surmount and as the previous strategy, the chance that it fails again is high.

    Posted by: Virgile | Mar 9 2015 8:56 utc | 78

    US-Led Airstrikes in Syria Kill 30, Mostly Civilians

    According to reports from the UK-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, several militants were killed in the attack, however the rest of the victims were civilians and workers. Syrian authorities have not yet made an official statement.
    [T]he U.S.-led coalition regularly targets the oil infrastructure there … critics say the attacks are also destroying the only civilian economic infrastructure in those regions.
    The coalition has conducted more than 2,300 airstrikes in Iraq and Syria so far, according to data from the U.S. Defense Department.
    Syria has been gripped by deadly violence since 2011 … more than 191,000 people have been killed in the over three years …

    US devastation and destruction of the middle East continues.

    Posted by: jfl | Mar 9 2015 12:24 utc | 79

    What kind of fool, after being banned a handful of times, comes back again and again under an ever-changing array of nicknames to insult leading posters with empty ad hominems while never offering anything substantial.

    Posted by: Bob M. | Mar 9 2015 14:10 utc | 80

    V@93
    “Fall again so easily” is a strange way to refer to the first freely elected government of Egypt, the MB. Whatever you think of their policies they were the Moderate Islamists and now that the democratic avenue to power has been brutally severed all that remains is Jihad.

    Posted by: Wayoutwest | Mar 9 2015 16:21 utc | 81

    P@102
    This has to be the most convoluted, rambling explanation of world events I have encountered in quite some time. Is this the best possible thoughts from the Tweaker’s School of Analysis that you can babble.

    Posted by: Wayoutwest | Mar 9 2015 17:23 utc | 82

    Obama Declares Venezuela a Threat to National Security

    “I, BARACK OBAMA, President of the United States of America, find that the situation in Venezuela, including the Government of Venezuela’s erosion of human rights guarantees, persecution of political opponents, curtailment of press freedoms, use of violence and human rights violations and abuses in response to anti-government protests, and arbitrary arrest and detention of antigovernment protestors, as well as the exacerbating presence of significant public corruption, constitutes an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States, and I hereby declare a national emergency to deal with that threat.”

    Venezuela a threat to US National Security … they can put anything before their puppet and he’ll sign it. Drones next in South America?

    Posted by: jfl | Mar 9 2015 19:46 utc | 83

    The Firebombing of Tokyo

    Seventy years ago today, the United States needlessly killed almost 100,000 people in a single air raid over Tokyo.
    Operation Meetinghouse saw more than three hundred B-29 bombers flying at ten thousand (as opposed to their usual thirty thousand feet) to avoid the effects of a 100 to 200 MPH jet stream, and setting Tokyo ablaze in the late hours of March 9. The American planes dropped five hundred thousand M-69 bombs (nicknamed “Tokyo Calling Card”), which were designed specially to consume the largely wooden residential structures of Tokyo.
    Clustered in groups of thirty-eight, each M-69 weighed six pounds. The five hundred–pound clusters would disperse at two thousand feet. A white phosphorus fuse that looked like a gym sock ignited flaming jellied gasoline that spurted one hundred feet in the air on impact.
    Like a sticky fiery plague, the globs of napalm clung to everything it touched. The M-69s were so effective at starting fires in Tokyo that night that gale force winds turned thousands of individual fires into one massive firestorm. Temperatures around the city raged between 600 and 1800 degrees Fahrenheit. In some areas, the fires melted asphalt.
    LeMay planned the attack to coincide with 30 MPH winds in order to intensify the effect of the bombs. Ultimately, sixteen square miles of Tokyo were reduced to ash.
    LeMay claimed that the Japanese government relied on residential “cottage” war production, thus making the civilians living in Tokyo a legitimate military target. However, by 1944 the Japanese had essentially terminated its home war production. A full 97 percent of the country’s military supplies were protected underground in facilities not vulnerable to air attack the day of the bombing. The Americans knew this.

    Burning Victims to Death: Still a Common Practice

    [B]ecause the Hellfire missiles fired from drones often incinerate the victims’ bodies, and leave them in pieces and unidentifiable, traditional burial processes are rendered impossible. As Firoz Ali Khan, a shopkeeper whose father-in-law’s home was struck, graphically described,

    “These missiles are very powerful. They destroy human beings . . .There is nobody left and small pieces left behind. Pieces. Whatever is left is just little pieces of bodies and cloth.”

    A doctor who has treated drone victims described how “[s]kin is burned so that you can’t tell cattle from human.” When another interviewee came upon the site of the strike that killed his father,

    “[t]he entire place looked as if it was burned completely, so much so that even [the victims’] own clothes had burnt. All the stones in the vicinity had become black.”

    Ahmed Jan, who lost his foot in the March 17 jirga strike, discussed the challenges rescuers face in identifying bodies:

    “People were trying to find the body parts. We find the body parts of some people, but sometimes we do not find anything.”

    The Nobel Peace Prize Laureate carries on the glorious tradition of American War Crime. Unreported, of course.

    Posted by: jfl | Mar 9 2015 20:06 utc | 84

    @jfl, 108:
    When I was young I read of this firebombing. LeMay bragged that he had “killed more people in a six hour period [200,000-300,000] than at any time in the history of man,” causing bomber crews to report 30% casualties incapacitated from the stench of burned human flesh at 9,000 feet of altitude. He later advocated incendiary bombing against the DPRK resulting in between 2-3 million civilian casualties.

    Posted by: Vintage Red | Mar 9 2015 20:52 utc | 85

    SO now Venezuela is a threat? Just when I think I’ve seen everything. So let me get this straight. You violate international law by attempting to overthrowing a democratically elected government. They foil your plot. So you declare THEM a threat to YOU? And then you demand they release your plotters? And then YOU, the government that practices kidnapping, illegal detention and torture yammer about “violations” of human rights? So…the country that is actively killing people all over the world. A country that is attempting to provoke a confrontation with a major nuclear power. The country that poses the biggest threat to life on this planet…considers VENEZUELA a threat? Someone is completely divorced from reality. I thought we had hit the bottom of the rabbit hole. I was wrong.

    Posted by: Scott | Mar 9 2015 21:11 utc | 86

    @95 fp,
    i am in a minority here in that i enjoy your posts and while i agree with others that berating posters isn’t a recipe for popularity(obviously you aren’t looking for that!), i like the fact you challenge people generally..do you do it with yourself too?
    i wouldn’t say anyone at moa is complacent.. ignorant or with a particular agenda – yes, and i would include myself in the category of coming here to learn something and essentially ignorant of a lot of the background dynamics at work in the many story-lines typically covered here at moa. i have a few pet peeves(others can probably pick up on more quickly then me), but listening to something go off topic seems to be typical of message boards.. very few posters here at moa are succinct, on target and to the point, but instead a mish mash of the foibles that make us human. however, i do think you could state your piece and let it stand on it’s own, as opposed to berating the views of others. everything is a balancing act with some of us better at it then others.. thanks for sharing your viewpoint/s. consider doing it in a more positive and detached manner!

    Posted by: james | Mar 9 2015 22:10 utc | 87

    Balmy —
    I disagree. Smug, sarcastic know-it-all, not a narcissist like yourself (you’re all over every thread, it seems). We clowns have no egos, it’s all about the jokes.
    And about your 100 —
    I just flew in from the Ukraine, and boy are my arms tired!
    Well, I wasn’t going to say anything, ‘cuz I thought my fellow Barflies might be jealous after my weekend joyride. So I modestly was not going to bring it up.
    But since you did, thanks! — In your face! Check the ride, suckas, we be stylin’! Only Ukrainian folk on the Sirius though.
    What can I say? I was a little tired after the red-eye to Kiev, and cheap Polish vodka is not my brand. Stoli is too Moskal, they said, and their Georgian allies were tight with the brandy.
    But they insisted on a proper salute “To safe driving,” and so, on “To Beauty,” “To War,” “To the Skill of the Armorers,” “To that muzhik over there’s mother-in-law” and well, whaddaya know?
    I’m used to walking home from the local, Mrs. M. has the drunk driving. I quit it quick, when they told me I couldn’t run over any officers, just enlisted and NCO’s. I got no beef w/ the grunts or even line officers, but the brass….
    Oh, and no rounds from either the machine guns or main armament, total bummer. Something about Nuland hadn’t sent Kerry with any cookies yet. And the gunner had a staff car in his sights!
    Don’t even ask the kind of pull I had to use with my peeps in DC, Novorossiya, Moscow and Kiev. But the panache of my LNR diplomatic passport really did help. Signed by Mozgovoy himself, ya know? I had quick side trip to the Kremlin and got my new marching orders and valyuta, so I didn’t waste the trip.
    Our Fearless Leader of the Peoples Party of Illumination and Humor, aka the Party of Clowns (Groucho-Marxist-Lennonist), Commandante Zed, says, “If you can’t say something nice, say something surrealistic.”
    Jas. at 111, this strikes me as the appropriate response.
    Somewhere in downtown Moscow, a troll is eating a bowl of borscht.
    Fellow Ill-Humorati — the checks are in the mail. Activate Plan “Red Nose.” Hic!

    Posted by: rufus magister | Mar 10 2015 2:04 utc | 88

    in re 114 I am protected by the power of stain-reistant Scotchguard

    Posted by: rufus magister | Mar 10 2015 3:01 utc | 89

    Balmy at 113 — Yow! What are you, some sort of Calvinist?! You are a total buzzkill.

    Posted by: rufus magister | Mar 10 2015 3:03 utc | 90

    again at 98 — Whining! I’m Rufus Magister and I am totally committed to the festive mode!
    I gotta be me!. Swingin’ Daddy-o, swingin’. Love that Steve and Eydie!
    Are we having fun yet? Yow!

    Posted by: rufus magister | Mar 10 2015 3:17 utc | 91

    um, i don’t use them, but don’t you give the roofie to the object of your desire?
    let’s get

    small

    Posted by: rufus magister | Mar 10 2015 3:21 utc | 92

    I’m demographically correct.

    Posted by: rufus magister | Mar 10 2015 3:34 utc | 93

    Venezuela votes for Chavez, elects Maduro as president
    in particular, moonbats will know NED, (National Endowment for Democracy) The Dirty Hand of the National Endowment for Democracy
    Obama failed his coup in Venezuela, The United States, Germany, Canada, Israel and the United Kingdom launched “Operation Jericho” →IT’S ALL THERE CHECK THE FIRST LINK OUT…

    Posted by: Uncle $cam | Mar 10 2015 4:05 utc | 94

    @109
    Yeah. I read about the ‘work’ in Bruce Cumings, The Korea War. I was a kid during the Korean War. Friends had older brothers or younger uncles who went. The lid went down on that instantly. It was forgotten as it happened.
    Chapter Six, Violet Ashes

    After his release from North Korean custody Gen. William F. Dean wrote that

    “the town of Huichon amazed me. The city I’d seen before – two-storied buildings, a prominent main street – wasn’t there any more.”

    He encountered the “unoccupied shells” of town after town, and villages where rubble or “snowy open spaces” were all that remained.[15] The Hungarian writer Tibor Meray had been a correspondent in North Korea during the war, and left Budapest for Paris after his participation in the 1956 rebellion against Communist rule. When a Thames Television team interviewed him, he said that however brutal Koreans on either side might have been in this war,

    “I saw destruction and horrible things committed by the American forces:
    “Everything which moved in North Korea was a military target, peasants in the fields often were machine gunned by pilots who, this was my impression, amused themselves to shoot the targets which moved.”

    Meray had arrived in August 1951 and witnessed “a complete devastation between the Yalu River and the capital,” Pyongyang. There were simply “no more cities in North Korea.”
    The incessant, indiscriminate bombing forced his party always to drive by night:

    “We traveled in moonlight, so my impression was that I am traveling on the moon, because there was only devastation … every city was a collection of chimneys. I don’t know why houses collapsed and chimneys did not, but I went through a city of 200,000 inhabitants and I saw thousands of chimneys and that – that was all.”

    The houses burned and the chimneys did not. There were simply no more cities in North Korea.
    How many Koreans died in that war … 5 million?
    The US has specialized in the mass murder of civilians since WWII.
    How many in Vietnam … 2 or 3 million?
    How many in Iraq … more than 1 million, certainly, counting Syria too.
    Now, having overtly embraced terror, the Nobel Peace Prize Laureate incinerates a handful, a score, a hundred at a time. The purposeful murder of civilians. Pure terror. He belongs in the Big House, not the White House. He could’ve said, as George W. Bush could have said when offered the job … thanks, but I’m just not up to it. Neither one did. Hundreds of thousands of people all over the world are dead because neither Bush nor Obama had the backbone to just say no.

    Posted by: jfl | Mar 10 2015 5:55 utc | 95

    Nice interview with Volodymyr Ischenko in Socialist Review via New Cold War. He makes A socialist case for Ukraine.

    The patriotic hysteria will not last for ever…. Support for the war is related to the chances of victory. The longer and more exhaustive it becomes the less people will support it or be ready to sacrifice themselves…. Will it be the far-right and the populists who will exploit nationalism and social discontent or will some left wing alternative emerge? At the moment the left is weak.

    The last sentences pose the problem facing us all. “Socialism or barbarism,” Luxemburg argued. Particularly tough roe to hoe in Kiev.
    Ishchenko also discusses not only the international politics, the outsized influence of the far-right, and the perceptions and hopes of the Ukrainian masses.

    Posted by: rufus magister | Mar 10 2015 15:28 utc | 96

    oops, bad link — A Socialist Case for Ukraine.

    Posted by: rufus magister | Mar 10 2015 15:30 utc | 97

    @jfl – those are horrific tales from the usa past.. thanks for sharing them, as disturbing as they are..

    Posted by: james | Mar 10 2015 16:01 utc | 98

    jas and jfl — Ah, napalm in the morning! It smells like victory! Remember, Charlie Don’t Surf!

    Posted by: rufus magister | Mar 10 2015 16:43 utc | 99

    RM@123
    This Socialist tendency especially as expressed in the People’s Republics frightens the Russian Ruling Class as much as the Fascists do. Fascism can be opposed on many levels but real Socialism can undermine the Capitalists in Ukraine and Russia.

    Posted by: Wayoutwest | Mar 10 2015 17:04 utc | 100