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March 09, 2015

Another Netanyahoo Flip-Flop The U.S. Will Ignore

The Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahoo has to address two different audiences. A foreign one that sponsors and protects his racist colony of east-Europeans in west-Asia and the colonists themselves who votes for him. Doing so requires some rather twisted rhetoric and leads to intellectual dissonances.

To attract voters Netanyahoo must insist that no occupied land will ever be given back to its rightful owners. To receive continued U.S. support he has to promise that the stolen land will be given back. Those positions are hard to unify but Netanyahoo insist on both at the very same time.

Netanyahu says Israel will not cede land to Palestinians

JERUSALEM (AP) — Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Sunday that Israel will not cede any territory due to the current climate in the Middle East, appearing to rule out the establishment of a Palestinian state.
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"Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said that any evacuated territory would fall into the hands of Islamic extremism and terror organizations supported by Iran. Therefore, there will be no concessions and no withdrawals. It is simply irrelevant," read a statement released by his Likud party.

Netanyahu's office said the statement reflected the prime minister's long-held position.

Netanyahu says Israel won't cede land to Palestinians, despite reports, docs claiming otherwise

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says Israel will not cede territory due to the current climate in the Middle East, appearing to rule out the establishment of a Palestinian state, in statements which contradict his famous 2009 Bar Ilan speech in which he vowed his commitment to the two-state solution.
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The statement by Netanyahu comes after Ynet published a secret list of concessions made by Netanyahu during his previous term to the Palestinians, concessions which stand in stark contradiction to Netanyahu's current talking points.

Why Bibi Nixed Two-State Solution

Finally, on Sunday afternoon, following a series of contradictory versions from Likud headquarters, Netanyahu himself told a press briefing that the Bar-Ilan speech is indeed “no longer relevant, in light of the current reality in the Middle East.”

As soon as the above statements hit the newswires Netanyahoo was told to paddle backwards. The result:

Netanyahu denies report he's backed off two-state solution

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's office denied reports on Sunday he has backed away from a 2009 commitment to seek a two-state peaceful solution with the Palestinians.
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Netanyahu "never said such a thing," his office said in a statement responding to the reports.

That would be the same Netanyahoo office which shortly before confirmed his statements.

But does Netanyahoo really holds the two irreconcilable commitments at the same time?

The Jewish Daily Forward, not suspect of peddling the Protocols of the Elders on Zion, has a possible answer. Netanyahoo is, like other Israelis, simply lying to the Americans:

“Most Israelis think Americans are pro-Israel and we can sell them anything, especially mud from the Dead Sea,” said David Lifshitz, the lead writer for the Israeli comedy show “Eretz Nehederet,” or “Wonderful Land.”

“Or — just regular mud with a ‘Dead Sea’ sticker on it.”

But it’s not just American tourists whom many Israelis see as guileless. American foreign policy is held up to similar scrutiny here, even as Israel receives billions of dollars in foreign aid from the United States each year.

Americans are perceived to be naive, especially when it comes to the Middle East,” said Uri Dromi, who served as a spokesman for the Yitzhak Rabin and Shimon Peres governments.

"Whatever we tell them, the Americans will swallow it," seems to be the Israeli position. And that assessment is likely correct. The U.S. public can be endlessly duped and should it ever be wavering in its support of the colony one only has to remind it of those not-so-mystical shared values:

In a harsh comment Sunday, Foreign Minister Avigdor Liberman advocated “cutting of the heads” of Arabs who were not loyal to Israel. “Those who are with us deserve everything, but those who are against us deserve to have their heads chopped off with an axe,” Liberman said at an election event Sunday.

Chopping of heads, droning a wedding - what is, after all, the difference?

Posted by b on March 9, 2015 at 11:16 UTC | Permalink

Comments

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Posted by: mcohen | Mar 9 2015 11:59 utc | 1

Israel/Palestina was the country where according to the bible jesus christ was born and that's why christians in the US (and other countries as well) won't critizise Israel at all. They will swallow any lie Israel peddles.

Posted by: Willy2 | Mar 9 2015 13:27 utc | 2

In my opinion, Lieberman is a bit of weathervane, sometimes trying to sound like a statesman and sometimes going for the deepest spots in nationalistic gutter. There are several parties chasing the same group of extremely nationalistic Israelis, and BY party siphoned a lot of YB voters, they even got their own "Russians" among MK candidates, and also some Messianic crazies, so they can "poach" Yachad prospective voters, etc. Perhaps he is also an idiot, because apparently he got quite a bit of flack from Arutz Sheva commenters who may cheer a bit of political violence but found it too much. Perhaps he accurately gouges the voters that may still consider YB, given corruption and lack of attention to issues that may concern Russian Israelis (like civil marriage).

Netanyahu is of course competing with Bennet as well.


By the way, Lieberman succeed in something: it made PressTV notice the election campaign in Israel.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Mar 9 2015 14:06 utc | 3

"Those positions are hard to unify but Netanyahoo insist on both at the very same time."

They're not hard to unify if you happen to be Bibi The Mendacious (Ruling Class Sara's sock puppet).
All he has to say is "It's Not My Fault if the Palestinians can't believe that the Piece Process and the Peace Process can exist in perfect harmony; er ... side by side."

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Mar 9 2015 14:11 utc | 4

@b But it’s not just American tourists whom many Israelis see as guileless.

Well, that's most Israeli's impression because that's who they meet. Most Israeli's don't visit the US. And the US tourists they meet in Israel are a very certain kind - almost all Christian Zionists.

Posted by: okie farmer | Mar 9 2015 14:33 utc | 5

@ b: "“Americans are perceived to be naive"

Not just naive, but, uninformed and disinterested. The Two-State solution, along with anything that resembles fairness and justice for Palestinians, is, I'm afraid, due to media capture by corporate predators and the maglignant elite, a dead issue.

Posted by: ben | Mar 9 2015 14:57 utc | 6

OT
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/2/8/124763/World/Region/Islamic-State-supporters-release-a-Jihadi-social-n.aspx
Islamic State supporters release a Jihadi social network

The social media network will be run in seven languages and apparently aims to increase the number of supporters and fighters for the Islamic State militant group.

Ghada Atef , Monday 9 Mar 2015

Posted by: okie farmer | Mar 9 2015 15:16 utc | 7

According to Hasbara, Jews enjoy a unique status among all the Earth's inhabitants. Not only is Judaism a religion, but Jews are an ethnicity unto themselves. Even though many Jews don't practice and would have been ostracized or worse in the original "state", their peculiar genetic heritage entitles them to the Land of the Ancient Hebrew prophets. Like a get-out-of-jail-free card, they, and only they, receive as an accident of birth.

Posted by: ruralito | Mar 9 2015 17:13 utc | 8

Chopping of heads... nothing new to Israel, that's what they are doing via their armies called ISIS, Al Nosra, etc. Pretty much the same pattern as what their gangs (Irgoun, Stern, Haganah) did in Palestine in the 1940s. Also another pattern: destruction of historical sites and monuments, i.e. of memory.
As Begin once put it in an interview in the early 1950s: "we brought terrorism not only to the Middle East but to the entire world". Indeed, now we see it in the Ukraine, but also in France (Charlie Hebdo), London (London tube), NY (9.11), etc.

Posted by: bongo | Mar 9 2015 17:45 utc | 9

PS, down in the article there's this:

Hosting server

The head of IT services company KIT Consulting, Khaled Kamal, told Ahram Online that a geolocation search on the website's domain name had led back to a web server in the US registered to an administrator named Abu Musab.

"The domain name was sold by GoDaddy co. on 3 March, 2015 and is licensed for one year," Kamal said via email.

The website's administrator Abu Musab listed the Iraqi city of Mosul as his city and Egypt as his country

Posted by: okie farmer | Mar 9 2015 17:52 utc | 10

Chopping heads club, its hard to see where Israelis begin and Al Qaeda ends. No wonder Israel provides thousands tons of weapons to their beloved cannibals, along with serving as an air-force for them, and providing intelligence and medical support.

Posted by: Harry | Mar 9 2015 18:45 utc | 11

I was wondering when you were going to do a post about Netanyahoo. I did the same. Mine's a little more entertaining. Remember what Mary Poppins said? "A spoonful of satire helps the medicine go down." There couldn't be a Mary Poppins today. She'd become a Cougar instead and leave the brats at home with their i-everything whilst she's out hunting and screwing aimless young males.

Jumping The Monkey

Posted by: Cold N. Holefield | Mar 9 2015 19:57 utc | 12

Is Israeli support for ISIS still just rumor then? Or is Netanyahu just that kind of skumbag?

http://www.voltairenet.org/article186957.html

Posted by: farflungstar | Mar 9 2015 20:06 utc | 13

Judaism was invented (or at least codified) under King Josiah in the 7th century BCE. He wanted a compelling national story to unify the Canaanite tribes under his command. The eventual result was the great epic of the Hebrew scriptures. In the 3d century CE, the Bar Kokhba revolt succeeded in overthrowing Roman rule -- but Hadrian returned with a large Roman army and crushed Judea, dispersing the Jews and renaming the province Palestine. So the area was home to a Jewish religion for less than a thousand years.

After the 7th century CE, the religion of Islam became dominant in the Middle East and has remained so for more than 1,300 years. Current Zionism seeks to bridge a millennium sized gap in history, based on a story for which archaeological evidence is lacking.

But please -- distinguish between Zionists and Jews in comments. We know many Jews in the US as liberal, contributing citizens. They are the backbone of many liberal causes. To the extent that they support Israel rather like Episcopalians support the church of England, yes, they are complicit in Zionist crimes. Most of the Jews I know are not supporters of Israel, but their opposition is individual and unorganized. Just as we, and our liberal friends, are aghast at US war crimes in Iraq, Libya, et al., but have no effective way to counter them. We are complicit as taxpayers and citizens.

As Jesus said, in one translation of a Beatitude, only the destitute are innocent.

Posted by: mudduck | Mar 9 2015 20:36 utc | 14

Netanyahu...the mythopoeic screwball, the giant fleshy bullet.

Posted by: john | Mar 9 2015 21:16 utc | 15

Amerikas so-called elected officials are saving the day for israel. Treason.

http://firedoglake.com/2015/03/09/republican-senators-try-to-sabotage-iran-deal-with-letter-to-tehran/

If this site doesn't work search for it.

Posted by: jo6pac | Mar 9 2015 21:42 utc | 16

Any nation needs "foundation myths", otherwise they would be a bunch of individuals. While those myths contain a highly variable proportion of "kernels of truth", the collective ties are usually quite real. One of the frequent myths is "sons of soil". For example, ancient Athenians literally emerged from the Attic soil if I recall. By the way of contrast, Spartans (or, more generally, Dorians) had a myth or "return" to the patrimony promised by Zeus himself to Heracles (accidentally, this return happened around the same time as the return of Jews from Egypt, which god copied the idea from another?)

As an elementary school student in Poland I learned that "we Poles" were present in Poland, like, forever. While there were proves that Goths came from Poland, scholars cited in our textbooks were assuring that these were Scandinavians who were merely passing through. Now more scholars agree that what is now Poland, at the time of Bar Kochba was populated by Goths, Vandals and Balts. Luckily, they lack diaspora with strong influence in USA.

By the way, the most convincing study I have read about Ashkenazi and Khazars attributed about 10% of Ashkenazi ancestry to Khazars. However, even folks with undisputed Vandal ancestry would not be welcome in Poland to boot out all inhabitants of Silesia and Wielkopolska ("Greater Poland"), so Khazar angle is kind of pointless. Should Mons expel Thai people from Thailand, should the Ainu expel the Japanese, should Welch and Bretons expel the Anglo-Saxons?

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Mar 9 2015 21:50 utc | 17

Posted by: Shlomo | Mar 9, 2015 6:08:23 PM | 23

shlomo..... the truth has set you free,again,on the internet forum.......please provide a link to a picture of you posing with a liberace look-a-like dressed in black lingerie.with plug inserted.

Posted by: ron | Mar 9 2015 22:21 utc | 18

"Chopping of heads, droning a wedding - what is, after all, the difference?"

You're missing it b, its very clear.

In areas under ISIL control, people get their heads chopped off with knives because Allah said its okay.

In areas under US control, "terrorists" are "droned" because the "Kill Matrix" said its okay.

Huge difference.

After all, what separates man from beast except for our ability to invent Orwellian catchphrases?

Posted by: guest77 | Mar 10 2015 0:49 utc | 19

"Bibi is a chickenshit"...............

Posted by: psakiwacky | Mar 10 2015 2:19 utc | 20

What's the religious significance of Herpes Rabbis sucking the penis of a traumatised mutilated child?
Posted by: Shlomo | Mar 9, 2015 7:07:18 PM | 26

Good question.
It's further proof that religious ideology is more about bullying the "flock" into accepting stupid baseless myths as God-given facts. Circumcision is the deliberate mutilation of the penis. It (more often than not) results in the penis having insufficient skin to (comfortably) accommodate the increase in length when erect.

It is a testament to the power of religious/ cultural mythology that the medical profession knows how damaging circumcision can be to the 'unluckier' victims in later life, but fails to speak out LOUDLY against it. It's not quite as destructive as female genital mutilation but it's equally insane and equally immoral in that it is perpetrated without the consent of the victim - like religion itself.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Mar 10 2015 3:40 utc | 21

The comments on this thread are a bunch of crap. Unreadable moronic and bogus.

Posted by: frankiem | Mar 10 2015 4:04 utc | 22

Another link to the Senate letter to Iran:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/gop-senators-letter-to-iran-intensifies-dispute-with-white-house/2015/03/09/c873d354-c68a-11e4-a199-6cb5e63819d2_story.html
An already heated battle between the White House and Republicans over negotiations to curtail Iran’s nuclear program grew more tense Monday when 47 Republican senators sent a letter to Iran designed to kill any potential deal.

The White House responded by accusing the Republicans of conspiring with Iranian hard-liners, who oppose the delicate negotiations, and suggesting that their goal was to push the United States into a military conflict.
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The letter, written by Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.), suggests that any deal between Obama and the Iranian leadership would amount to only an “executive agreement” that could be undone by Congress or a future president. “The next president could revoke such an executive agreement with the stroke of a pen and future Congresses could modify the terms of the agreement at any time,” the letter states.

Posted by: okie farmer | Mar 10 2015 4:19 utc | 23

Surely the only "news" to be taken from this is that Netanyahu does an exceptionally good impersonation of a headless chicken when he gets taken by surprise.

He simply can't get his story straight, which makes him look rattled, and that's not a good look for any politician facing a tight election.

And the best part about it is that the "leak" was quite obviously engineered by the White House, since it involves the leaking of American-sponsored position-papers.

Obama's spokesmodel will deny that, of course, but it's obvious that the Oval Office was the source of this bit o' psych-ops.

Posted by: Yeah, Right | Mar 10 2015 4:35 utc | 24

"Whatever we tell them, the Americans will swallow it," seems to be the Israeli position. And that assessment is likely correct. The U.S. public can be endlessly duped and should it ever be wavering in its support of the colony one only has to remind it of those not-so-mystical shared values:

b, sometimes, many times even, you're funny without even trying. It must be nice — not to have to try. It just comes natural.

You, and 9.9 out of 10 commentators here, are not very different than the Jews/Israelis when it comes to your disdain for "Americans." Of course, you called them the "U.S. Public," but it's the same difference.

Wouldn't it be interesting, but not surprising, if the comment section here was a hang for the Hasbara and its deceit? It would certainly explain the lackluster response to my blog post. At my blog it, meaning the Hasbara, cannot contain and control the message. I'm tougher than they are, and they know it. The Hasbara, like the Russians, are humorless propagandists who immerse themselves in, and inundate you with, too much unnecessary detail meant to muddy and obfuscate, not simplify and clarify.

Posted by: Cold N. Holefield | Mar 10 2015 10:18 utc | 25

The comments on this thread are a bunch of crap. Unreadable moronic and bogus.

Agreed. Commentary here is illegible nonsense. It's meant to baffle and bewilder. I'm sticking with the theory that there is a strong Hasbara presence here. How else can you explain their unhappiness with Obama who has snubbed Israel more than any recent president in history? Sure, the Obama admin doesn't go nearly far enough, but compared to the fawning Bush administration, it's night and day. If these pricks were truly concerned about the plight of the Palestinians, they would see the teetering American/Israeli relationship as a positive sign but instead remain in attack mode. Only Hasbara would attack a positive trend. Why? Because they want to put an end to the momentum of that trend and in order to do that they must make the trend appear negative and nonexistent. Israel and its Hasbara hate Obama and the administration he's the face of.

The name "okie farmer" should be a dead giveaway to any sentient person. The only thing this creature plants is propaganda to feed the rubes.

Posted by: Cold N. Holefield | Mar 10 2015 10:32 utc | 26

@34 cold - that is rich for someone who makes up approx 10% of the comments here!

Posted by: james | Mar 10 2015 16:18 utc | 27

Interesting that cold now criticizes hasbara. I guess that reflects the change in policy inside the Obama administration, like Walter Pincus's columns in the Washington Post (including one today) on Israel's nuclear weapons.

Posted by: lysias | Mar 10 2015 16:45 utc | 28

Comments by one "FP, PS, Facepalm, Shlomo" deleted and user IPs banned for sockpuppetry, personal insults and general misbehavior

b.

Posted by: b | Mar 10 2015 18:42 utc | 29

b at 29 -- The nuclear option. Well, there goes my riff on his tank video. Worth the price. Didn't know he was Shlomo, he wasn't making sense their either. I thought he might have been an earlier rude boy though.

Somewhere in downtown Metropolis, a troll is nursing a grudge.

Posted by: rufus magister | Mar 10 2015 19:35 utc | 30

@ - that's the problem trying to resolve a serious wound with a band-aid.. banning doesn't stop a person from coming with another alias, or learning how to scramble an ip address..

Posted by: james | Mar 10 2015 21:11 utc | 31

rufus magister said:

Well, there goes my riff on his tank video.

and thank the lord for that!

Posted by: john | Mar 10 2015 21:49 utc | 32

john at 32 -- A humor lover, eh? Tough room; everybody's a critic. Sadly, I will be appearing indefinitely.

Don't forget to tip your servers!

Posted by: rufus magister | Mar 10 2015 22:07 utc | 33

21st of march 3:21

an earthquake,a wave,two condemned,a prophecy in lieu.

Posted by: mcohen | Mar 11 2015 7:03 utc | 34

@34 - equinox and lightning strikes ;-)

Posted by: Oui | Mar 11 2015 7:46 utc | 35

The feast of Purim and chopping off heads …
Jihadi Jew “decapitates” MK Haneen Zoabi

Posted by: Oui | Mar 11 2015 7:51 utc | 36

Netanyahoo's booty requires constant tongue washing. So lose your uppity attitudes and do your patriotic duty, you communist slackers.

Posted by: Some Guy | Mar 12 2015 19:12 utc | 37

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