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January 11, 2015

The Stench Of Hypocrisy

Thousands of people take part in silent march in Paris in remembrance of the victims of last weeks terror attacks in France. The attacks, by a bunch of criminals, were depicted as an assault on "free speech".

Unfortunately a bunch of hypocrites, invited by the French president Hollande, insisted on walking at the front of the march and to devalue the intended purpose. Many of these "leaders" sawed and saw terror in their own and other countries. As one Charlie Hebdo cartoonist says:

'We vomit on all these people who suddenly say they are our friends"

David Wickham documented the "free speech" credentials of these so called "leaders" who now compel the participants of the march to follow in the stench of their hypocrisy.

The right response to the attacks comes from the brother of the killed police officers Ahmed Merabet:

“My brother was Muslim and he was killed by two terrorists, by two false Muslims,” he said. “Islam is a religion of peace and love. As far as my brother’s death is concerned it was a waste. He was very proud of the name Ahmed Merabet, proud to represent the police and of defending the values of the Republic – liberty, equality, fraternity.”

Malek reminded France that the country faced a battle against extremism, not against its Muslim citizens. “I address myself now to all the racists, Islamophobes and antisemites. One must not confuse extremists with Muslims. Mad people have neither colour or religion,” he said.

“I want to make another point: don’t tar everybody with the same brush, don’t burn mosques – or synagogues. You are attacking people. It won’t bring our dead back and it won’t appease the families.”

Posted by b on January 11, 2015 at 10:19 AM | Permalink

Comments

I believe you meant to say: sowed, not sawed.

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 11, 2015 10:56:16 AM | 1

If a drone kills a wedding party, does anybody notice?

If gunmen kill people in Paris does anybody notice?

Posted by: JohnH | Jan 11, 2015 11:20:07 AM | 2

As far as I can see, many people were disgusted by the display of world leaders at the march. There've been a lot of comments about how awful a front-line of right-wing leaders is, every one of whom is out to limit the freedom of speech that Charlie Hebdo stands for, and the march is about.

It was one reason I didn't go to the march. The other is that I fear for the future of community relations in France, as a result of the events, and I don't want to put a stamp of approval on the extremist Islamophobia which could emerge as a consequence.

Posted by: Laguerre | Jan 11, 2015 11:25:21 AM | 3

Kosher supermarket attack victims to be laid to rest in Israel

Thank you for link. I am deeply touched by the personal loss and grieving families.

Secondarily, I read this part: Sharon Cohen, also took to Facebook to express her grief, "I hardly had time to open my eyes and I realized that you were no longer here. I still do not want to believe it, and yet I have no choice. Yohan, you were an example of kindness and goodness, you were the pride of your family and all your friends! And yesterday your life was torn away from you without scruples.

"01/09/2015 will forever burn in our hearts and we will avenge all those whose lives were torn off by the barbarians, I promise you!"

Quite a difference with the reaction from the brother of Paris policeman Ahmed Merabet!

Posted by: Oui | Jan 11, 2015 11:29:42 AM | 4

Lassana Bathily, Muslim worker at Paris kosher shop, hid 5 people from gunman, incl. baby - BFMtv video

Posted by: Oui | Jan 11, 2015 11:30:27 AM | 5

Wrong Response …

Will not only come from Israeli PM Netanyahu marching along Avenue de Voltaire as he has already invited all French Nationals of the Jewish faith to abandon their homes and make aliya to Israel for their safety. Young men and women can line-up for enlistment in the IDF to fight Amalek (Palestinians). Great show de force Bibi!

Netanyahu to French, European Jews after Paris attacks: Israel is your home

Posted by: Oui | Jan 11, 2015 11:39:19 AM | 6

So b, what else is new? The Empire and their minions are soaked in hypocrisy. All for the glory of massive profits for the few.

Posted by: ben | Jan 11, 2015 11:45:43 AM | 7

If that Muslim police officer was killed, it wasn't by shot to the head...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJEvlKKm6og

Fake beheadings, fake assassinations, fake Syrian boy saving young girl, fake background gunfire and explosions in interviews with "Syrian Danny", the list of wholly contrived and staged Wag the Dog news is piling up. See for yourself and tell me that officer was shot in the head. And then of course one of the "terrorists" who pulls off an apparently extremely professional military operation makes a "world's dumbest criminals" mistake by leaving his ID in the getaway car. Not out if the realm of possibility, but... c'mon. The stench of agitprop. In addition to hypocrisy.

Posted by: Colinjames | Jan 11, 2015 12:01:15 PM | 8

netanyahoo, cameron, merkel, hollande and their malian puppet were a big stain in the march. By the way, at least 15 air attacks were launched today against "islamic state positions" in Syria and Iraq... how many innocent lives were lost there?

Posted by: guy moyssen | Jan 11, 2015 12:27:56 PM | 9

I am reading from some sites like Sputnik that the police chief investigating the attack has committed suicide. Also on another site, seems a second officer also committed suicide. Anyone seeing this?

Posted by: Brad a | Jan 11, 2015 12:33:28 PM | 10

Sorry b,

but this is bullshit, especially brother's "interview".

Posted by: neretva'43 | Jan 11, 2015 12:34:56 PM | 11

you disparage free speech because your hero dictators Putin, Assad, et al. don't believe in free speech.

Your claims that free speech does not exist in countries like the US is complete bullshit.

Posted by: slothrop | Jan 11, 2015 12:41:09 PM | 12

Link for policeman suicide, in french unfortunately.

Posted by: Brad a | Jan 11, 2015 12:43:05 PM | 13

@11 What about it is bullshit? You dont extrapolate anything at all.

Posted by: Massinissa | Jan 11, 2015 12:50:36 PM | 15

Saw first French officer suicide, but do you have link for the second? Interesting.

Also, it's worth noting that neither Obama nor Kerry was among the world leaders at the rally. Why?

Posted by: yellowsnapdragon | Jan 11, 2015 1:02:16 PM | 16

How could those thousands not see the "victory" they were handing to the Israelis, seeing it live on RT gave me the horrors. Even Lieberman was there and the Ukraine president. My god who who WHO decided on that line of "leaders"and "Paris the capital of the world today" says Hollande, as the people walked without a sign of community life apparent. Since 9/11 humanity has proved that education, materialism, and democracy has created dumb hordes of people on two legs with hands that can only press "communication PC" buttons, whose minds are totally empty, and we are only fit to be laughed at..... every step of that march a humiliation.

Posted by: Jocelyn Braddell | Jan 11, 2015 1:02:30 PM | 17

'United against the barbarians'

What has the world learned in the last 80 years? Mussolini, the League of Nations, Abyssinia, emperor Haile Selassi - Statement of Communist League of Struggle. Obama, the United Nations, Abyss in Ukraine, 'czar' Putin. In both eras Britain and France playing a major role as their colonial empires were faltering. Fascism leads to a great World War. Is this once again an irreversible process going through today's fascism, propaganda, mass rallies unto yet another devastating war?

An uneasy feeling by mass rallies - 2014

Posted by: Oui | Jan 11, 2015 1:09:21 PM | 18

Muslims in Europe can expect worse treatment because of these attacks but would they receive better treatment if there were no "extremists", I doubt they would.

I cringe every time the media trot out the 'Good Muslim' to beg their people to join their oppressors in their oppression.

Posted by: Wayoutwest | Jan 11, 2015 1:17:34 PM | 19

All those eggs in one basket — you know the idiom, and so does Putin. What a perfect time for him to drop a nuke and fry some eggs. Where are all the tough guys now? Oddly, they're nowhere to be found. It's always the defenseless ones. Why is that? Cowardice, that's why, regardless of who is ultimately responsible for the attack in Paris or the pastures of Afghanistan. Cowardice all the way around.

Posted by: Cold N. Holefield | Jan 11, 2015 1:29:20 PM | 20

3 million goyims marching for the Jewish right to demonize and kill Arabs. Touching.Not.

Mileikovski/Netanyahooo and those 97% zionazi squatters in occupied Palestine who approve every genocidal war against Arabs and native Palestinians, are jumping up and down in joy.

Like Mileikovski said at the US 9/11: this is goooood for us!

Those Mossad agents who made a pro-job but left an Arab ID at the scene are probably having drinks in sunny Tel Aviv together with "bin laden" & Co...

Posted by: mats | Jan 11, 2015 1:37:49 PM | 21

Le Monde has switched from "terror" to "marche republicaine" now. Liberation did the same from "nous sommes Charlie". So the message is agreed.

Will the terror acts continue - or not.

Posted by: somebody | Jan 11, 2015 1:39:36 PM | 22

@15
Sorry not much in there. The post was from Naomi wolf, now taken down. I am not sure the two are related apart from the second one was a friend of the policeman who committed suicide Thursday.

Posted by: Brad a | Jan 11, 2015 1:57:02 PM | 23

It's hard not to see some hypocrisy at work here. Mainstream media overreacts to these kinds of isolated terror attacks, but refuses to report on, or connect the dots with State sponsored terrorism. As a devout pacifist, I abhor any killing of human beings, but as such, I also abhor that some lives seem to be worth more than others. Vicious State terrorism that the West spreads across the Middle East, and now Ukraine, is what engenders these kind of reprisals. State sanctioned terrorism is the real evil that needs to be reported on and eradicated. The roots of these kind of events lie in illegal wars of aggression against oppressed peoples, not the Muslim religion.

Posted by: Kraken | Jan 11, 2015 1:59:02 PM | 24

Over 300 journalists have been murdered in Russia since 1993 (over 100 since start of Putin's presidency, the last one in August 2014) but Russian Foreign Minister is marching for "free speech" in Paris. Hypocrisy, indeed.

Posted by: Ulster | Jan 11, 2015 2:03:17 PM | 25

The Potemkin march :-))

Posted by: somebody | Jan 11, 2015 2:06:05 PM | 26

This a totally ubuesque demonstration of hypocrisy and self-righteousness. It is sickening when we see the criminal Netanyahu and Davutoglu the mastermind of the terrorists in Syria walking along with Holland with their hands freshly stained with blood.
Instead of tackling this issue as a sectarian issue by giving the highest importance to Ahmed Merabet who died as a moslem hero, Holland opted to boost his own drifting popularity by standing as the defender of the 'republican values'
The very specific religious aspect of the act has been totally subdued. It has been hidden under the banner of 'freedom of speech'. What good will this demonstration under this banner do to neutralize the rampant anti-Islam feeling in France other than exacerbate it. Violent reactions are to be expected in a few days.
If Ahmed Merabet has been held as the real hero of that demonstration, Moslems in France would have identified with him and reclaimed him as their model. That may have contributed to change the antagonist dynamic that is undermining the french Moslem relation with their government.

Instead we saw that pathetic walk of "Hero" Holland like a rooster claiming to be Charlie while the bells of Notre-Dame rang for the death of atheists....

Posted by: Virgile | Jan 11, 2015 2:06:51 PM | 27

via Alan Gresh

Ceux de Charlie Hebdo étaient nos frères : nous les pleurons comme tels. Leurs assassins étaient orphelins, placés en foyer : pupilles de la nation, enfants de France. Nos enfants ont donc tué nos frères. Tragédie. Dans quelque culture que ce soit, cela provoque ce sentiment qui n’est jamais évoqué depuis quelques jours : la honte.

Posted by: somebody | Jan 11, 2015 2:34:05 PM | 28

If Ahmed Merabet has been held as the real hero of that demonstration, Moslems in France would have identified with him and reclaimed him as their model.

....Posted by: Virgile | Jan 11, 2015 2:06:51 PM | 26

That would have negated the whole point of staging this spectacle in the first place

Why would Hollande want to do that?

The whole point of this spectacle is "divide and conquer", using SS created "Jihadis" to further the racist "Clash of Civilisations" narrative as formulated by racist jewish zionist Prof Bernard Lewis of Stanford, and as practiced by NeoCon scum

Posted by: Rogan Josh | Jan 11, 2015 2:44:46 PM | 29

It turns out that one of the attackers was pals with Anwar Al Awaki, the mullah, who was pals in the Pentagon, until he wasn't any more, then was droned away by Obama. The circle of connections grows even more murky.

http://landdestroyer.blogspot.co.uk/2015/01/opps-paris-attackers-funded-by-pentagon.html

Posted by: Anonymous | Jan 11, 2015 3:04:15 PM | 30

Netanyahu and Davutoglu? Give me a fucking break.

Posted by: Pat Bateman | Jan 11, 2015 3:17:07 PM | 31

There is still confusion about the message: Le Monde switched to "personnes", Liberation to "nous sommes un peuple" (:-)) fun for Germans), le figaro now is "debout contre le terrorisme"

Posted by: somebody | Jan 11, 2015 3:25:42 PM | 32

Is this part of the false flag strategy, Rogan Mosh Pit?

Firebombing at German paper that ran Charlie Hebdo cartoons

By the way, for those interested I finished my blog post and placed some more great satirical cartoons. They made me laugh, at least.

This famous song comes to mind considering the moment:

Try To Set The Night On Fire

Posted by: Cold N. Holefield | Jan 11, 2015 3:28:21 PM | 33

What's next, The Onion? I can see it now — Je suis l'oignon. Good grief — no, make that bad grief.

Posted by: Cold N. Holefield | Jan 11, 2015 3:32:03 PM | 34

To Cold N. at 32 --

Good call. But seriously, you owe the Doors better visuals. Well have to set the day on fire, though, in The End.

"I thought you was the CO." "There is no f**king CO," our protagonist concludes. Commentary on our times? You make the call....

Posted by: rufus magister | Jan 11, 2015 3:41:08 PM | 35

Commentary on our times?

This is as well. Colonel Pat Fitts Lang beats off to it every night before bed.

You Can't Handle The Truth

Posted by: Cold N. Holefield | Jan 11, 2015 3:56:57 PM | 36

Over 300 journalists have been murdered in Russia since 1993 (over 100 since start of Putin's presidency, the last one in August 2014) but Russian Foreign Minister is marching for "free speech" in Paris. Hypocrisy, indeed.

Posted by: Ulster | Jan 11, 2015 2:03:17 PM | 24

are u implying Putin murdered 100 journalists?

while the media is gaining in thuis lovefest..id like to remind people its the media driving the jihad wars on libya and syria

www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxgFR9vYSmY

their lies about the late Col Gadafi and president Assad have manipulated tens of thousansd of sunnis to take up the jihad cudgel...and ironcialy contribute to the killings in paris

Posted by: brian | Jan 11, 2015 4:14:50 PM | 37

as for the daily mail bit on one cudmugeonly cartoonists reaction:
'
The Dutch-born artist reportedly said the provocative weekly had unexpected 'new friends' including the Pope, Queen Elizabeth and Vladimir Putin.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2905065/We-vomit-people-suddenly-say-friends-says-Charlie-Hebdo-cartoonist-scoffs-surge-support-attack.html#ixzz3OY9a3HJC
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook'

why mention Putin?

Putin expressed sympathy for a massacre ...yet hes made out to be a villain? typical of the MSM/satirical cartoonists

Posted by: brian | Jan 11, 2015 4:19:04 PM | 38

Death threats follow publication of cartoon in Israeli newspaper

‘With God’s help, the journalists at Haaretz will be murdered just like in France'

The cartoon compared the death of 10 journalists in Paris to the death of 13 journalists during last summer's Operation Gaza Punchbag.

http://mondoweiss.net/2015/01/journalists-publication-newspaper

Posted by: Anonymous | Jan 11, 2015 4:20:06 PM | 39

@38 Ulster is being 'economical with the actualite'.

There have been 315 deaths of 'journalists' (including cameramen, editors, photographers etc) in Russia in the period 1993-2013. Of these 51 died in accidents, 28 in crossfire during the Chechna conflict, 8 as a result of attacks by terrorists, 30 supposed deaths are not confirmed and 8 are missing. That leaves a total of 184 classified as homicide. Of these only 29 could possibly be related in anyway whatsoever to journalistic activity. Ten of these murders (ie more than one third) occurred in the years 1993-7.

Posted by: Anonymous | Jan 11, 2015 4:43:00 PM | 40


Jewish Israelis send death threats to Haaretz journalists following publication of cartoon http://mondoweiss.net/2015/01/journalists-publication-newspaper
pic.twitter.com/DORMH2Mcqn

will Netanyahu condemn this?

Posted by: brian | Jan 11, 2015 4:46:34 PM | 41

Where is Albert Camus when we need him?

Posted by: ljh | Jan 11, 2015 4:50:40 PM | 42

"....will we ever learnn who ws behind it?"

haven't you, so far or by now, noticed the same scenario between Boston Marathon "bombing" and this Paris?

Posted by: neretva'43 | Jan 11, 2015 4:50:58 PM | 43

Brian, you're out of control with the links. You've spread the thread out so it's near impossible to read coherently. Learn to embed your links, for Christ's sake. It's ridiculously inconsiderate.

Posted by: Cold N. Holefield | Jan 11, 2015 5:37:06 PM | 44

israel extends detention of Palestinian cartoonist

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jan 11, 2015 5:43:28 PM | 45

a lot of world condemnation for this bombing too

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Lebanon-News/2015/Jan-12/283769-lebanese-foreign-officials-condemn-tripoli-attack.ashx

Posted by: mcohen | Jan 11, 2015 5:44:25 PM | 46

Posted by: brian | Jan 11, 2015 4:46:34 PM | 44

i just spoke to bibi by phone ,,,he said he condemns all attacks on innocent journalists especially those execueted by isis for spying.. in any event why are linking to that sick pinko commie psycho lesbian from mars run blog called mondoweiss .......you sick dogs are no better than the hypocrites ....looking for any opportunity to blame israel for the attacks in france

the wheel shall turn,the earthquake,a crow calls,a tower falls

Posted by: mcohen | Jan 11, 2015 5:55:41 PM | 47

COLDITZ @ 32 Is this part of the false flag strategy, Rogan Mosh Pit?

Firebombing at German paper that ran Charlie Hebdo cartoons


Could be. Since neither you nor I know who the culprits are. Certainly the German SS, or any other "western" SS (Israeli for instance) could have easily set that up.

OR

Though more likely, without any further info on the perp, its probably just some moron

Posted by: Rogan Josh | Jan 11, 2015 5:57:27 PM | 48

I had hoped that the French aren't as stupid and as easily manipulated as Americans. I was wrong. It looks like France has been Americanized, as Germany had been earlier.

As a Russian commentator wrote in response to this maudlin hysteria: Russia is the last remaining European country.

Posted by: Demian | Jan 11, 2015 6:15:19 PM | 49

So "Mr Drone Man" (@ ur wedding party) is calling back his poodles for a group-hug and a bit of grooming.

"Allies" == ok, guess who is not coming to dinner (what ever happened to the expensive white elephant called the UN?).

"violent extremism" == ok, so let's hope they all take a mirror so they can see who is behind most of this stuff.

So the code here obviously is: it's ok to be 'violent' or 'extreme' but not 'violent' and 'extreme' (unless DC says so).


As CIA's Duane Clarridge says: "Get used to it, world"


To wit: Link
(Reuters) "White House to hold global security summit Feb 18: U.S. official"

"U.S. President Barack Obama will invite allies to a Feb. 18 security summit in Washington to try and prevent violent extremism, U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder said on Sunday after meeting his European counterparts in Paris.

The gathering of justice and interior chiefs came as France mourned 17 victims of Islamist gunmen this week in the worst assault on its homeland security in decades.

"We will bring together all of our allies to discuss ways in which we can counteract this violent extremism that exists around the world," Holder told reporters....."

Posted by: x | Jan 11, 2015 6:17:59 PM | 50

@brian #55:

It does not look OK. You have ruined the thread. Please stop posting bare links without embedding them in html code, as is explained in the "Post a comment" area.

Posted by: Demian | Jan 11, 2015 6:18:58 PM | 51

THE SHAM @ WORK
---------------

A picture is 1,000 words... and three pic are 10,000.

Check out these three from Mark Sleboda (Facebook). Nothing more needs to be said: "It's a wrap, folks!"

The crowd (as wee see it)

The non-crowd

(1% puppets)

Posted by: x | Jan 11, 2015 6:37:33 PM | 52

I had hoped that the French aren't as stupid and as easily manipulated as Americans. I was wrong. It looks like France has been Americanized, as Germany had been earlier.

As a Russian commentator wrote in response to this maudlin hysteria: Russia is the last remaining European country.

Posted by: Demian | Jan 11, 2015 6:15:19 PM | 56

you expect the french to be a different species?

russia is ditching Europe for asia/pacific

Posted by: brian | Jan 11, 2015 6:43:14 PM | 53

suggestion box - need to filter all posts by brian thru moderator. how many yrs has this been going on now?

Posted by: b real | Jan 11, 2015 6:48:10 PM | 54

Hollande asked Netanyahu not 2 attend #ParisMarch, Bibi coming anyway, so Abbas invited. Bibi there 2 gloat?
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.636557

Posted by: brian | Jan 11, 2015 6:49:14 PM | 55

Thank you, b. I think you rightly assess the situation, as does the brother of the slain officer.

Were I a Parisian, I would be marching, and the politicians who rush to the head of the protest

do not thereby diminish the peaceful intentions of the millions protesting - it is a general outpouring

against violence and has many aspects to it. I don't know why Saker is calling these people

names. I am sure many of them decry the violence of the state just as much as they take

their stand peacefully against what happened in Paris. Any peaceful protest deserves our

respect, just as violent ones do not.

Posted by: juliania | Jan 11, 2015 6:49:54 PM | 56

' netanyahoo, cameron, merkel, hollande and their malian puppet were a big stain in the march. '

' Even Lieberman was there and the Ukraine president. ... '

Israel's bagman, godfather of the Israeli genocide of the Palestinians, and the author ... well proximate cause ... of genocide in Donbas were there too?

France! Have you no sense of decency?!

' Mainstream media overreacts to these kinds of isolated terror attacks, but refuses to report on, or connect the dots with State sponsored terrorism. '

You can say that again, and again ...

' the Emir of Qatar showed up to this #JeSuisCharlie rally! '

if true ... insult added to injury ...

' Russian Foreign Minister is marching for "free speech" in Paris ... '

Like whipped dogs the Atlanticists crawl, whining, eyes averted, for another taste of their masters' lash.

' It looks like France has been Americanized, as Germany had been earlier. '

Well, fifty years too late is better than never, I suppose.

Je suis donbass! Je suis Palestine!

Posted by: jfl | Jan 11, 2015 6:58:12 PM | 57

did u know:
the whole world is expected to march with paris...but when french bombed Libya http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/20/us-libya-gaddafi-finalhours-idUSTRE79J5Q720111020

french planes took part in bombing Libyas leader col Gaddafi

Posted by: brian | Jan 11, 2015 7:00:23 PM | 58

brian:

Link to ACLU

What about the preceding confuses you?

Maybe I can help, just ask.

Or are you just lazy?

Posted by: fairleft | Jan 11, 2015 7:10:38 PM | 59

Oops, that should be ...

brian:

whatever want highlighted

What about the preceding confuses you?

Maybe I can help, just ask.

Or are you just lazy?

Posted by: fairleft | Jan 11, 2015 7:13:13 PM | 60

Ahh fergeddaboutit.

Posted by: fairleft | Jan 11, 2015 7:13:59 PM | 61

@59

So ... not one but two parades? Photo ops, anyway. This is like the two wars fought during WW II ... the two wars fought forever.

Brainwashed zombies and hypocrites


Simple! Our imperial overlords want us to do exactly three things:

Be terrified
Hate
Stop thinking

So all we need to do is to

Not fear
Love
Think

It is really that simple.

If we fear, hate and stop thinking – they win.
If we refuse to fear, if we love and if we think – we win.

Their entire Empire has been built on fear, hate and stupidity.
Let’s bring it down by courage, love and intelligence!


Still ... we need to realize that 'our' governments are not 'ours' - have nothing in common with ourselves ... to abrogate 'our' governments and their 'leaders' ... to stop being manipulated as the Atlanticists we all too often are ...

Posted by: jfl | Jan 11, 2015 7:40:11 PM | 62

Interestinger & interestinger - The shouts from the-fully-masked-up-so-as-not-to-be-identifiable "We are al Qaeda from Yemen" that we were told was what "the terrorists" were saying on day one seems to have changed (New Zealand's National Radio 12th Jan 2015) to "trained & inspired by ISIS" (Israeli Secret Intelligence Service ???), most probably to fit in with the al-Bagdadi-cartoon-caused-the-incident meme. Of course just forget they are supposedly sworn enemies, ISIS & al Qaeda

And notice in the video of the shooting of the Muslim policeman (ignoring the lack of blood, head "bounce", etc.) - when one of the gunman first steps out of the R/H side of the car, a gym shoe appears to "drop" on the road (which he retrieves as they leave the scene). Is this part of the psyop to give credibility to the story of the I.D. card being left in the car. Just ignore the what we are told was the almost military precision and stances of the terrorists, we are also to believe they dragged along all their dirty laundry/gym gear/I.D, etc. . . . . I would've thought that the change of clothes would be left in the change of car. Then again maybe I think too much Chris in Ch-Ch

Posted by: kiwicris | Jan 11, 2015 8:09:59 PM | 63

@kiwicris #72:

They didn't have a second car to change into. Their second car was carjacked. This is one reason which has been given for why they were not professionals.

I am less positive than I was two days ago that this was not a false flag. Certainly this happening two days after Hollande said sanctions against Russia must be lifted raises suspicion. Reminds one of MH17 being conveniently shot down while the rebels had great momentum smashing the Ukie army, and the Europeans were resting US pressure to apply more sanctions. The second thing of course is the IDs left in a car.

Today's liberty parade psy-op also indicates that this attack was just what the Empire wanted. So my wish for a decent amount of certainty about whether this was blowback or a false flag has not been fulfilled.

Posted by: Demian | Jan 11, 2015 8:28:34 PM | 64

Jim Naureckas at fair.org notes that Some European Bloodbaths Are More Interesting Than Others.


On July 24, 2011, two days after Anders Breivik slaughtered 77 people, mostly teenagers, in Norway to call attention to his view that Muslim immigration was a bad thing, NBC's Meet the Press didn't mention the words "Breivik" or "Norway." Nor did CBS's Face the Nation.

He writes from the American perspective. Further on, the use of Charlie as a lever to open the moneybin let farther to the "security' forces, and as a lever to further degrade constitutional rights in the USA is noted.

That all goes for the client states in the European Unit as well, of course : they were the explicit target of this particular massacre.

Asking 'the Roman Question', as Paul Craig Roberts does, Charlie Hebdo and Tsarnaev’s Trial: Cui bono?, is certainly the rational way to proceed at this point.

Posted by: jfl | Jan 11, 2015 8:50:52 PM | 65

@Juliana #65,,,,,,I don't know why the Saker is calling these people names

The Saker is calling them names because he is desperately trying to justify his most stupid statement to date .."Charlie Hebdo had it coming" ,,,no matter what one thinks of Imperialist Journos/satarists you do not wish death on anyone,,,his own supporters who have helped him expand his little franchises revolted at his insensitive remark,,,,

Of course he immediately went into damage control and turned the whole thing to a Saker 9/11,,,,,,I am now being pursued by lawyers, the defections are threatening the whole franchise apparatus and so on, and so on,,PLEASE DONATE,PLEASE DONATE, TO KEEP ME GOING,,I hold two jobs whilst I am doing all this for you,,,"I have a thin veil" but please direct everything to a PO BOX in Florida,,,,(anyone with a little nous can figure the FBI knows this),,,his site logo states ,,STOP THE EMPIRE'S WAR ON RUSSIA,,,Yet Lavrov attended the March,,last time he wanted Putin to invade the Ukraine,,,,the Russian Government understands the complexities of terrorist threats better then he does and thank God they are more astute then this guy,,,It is so sad to see people follow blindly this very volatile and unstable individual ,,,even Pepe Escobar and Paul Crag Roberts quote him,,,,,but I did not see them say ,,,,THEY HAD IT COMING,,,,,

Posted by: Tantin | Jan 11, 2015 9:05:01 PM | 66

@Tantin #75:

A poor choice of words certainly, but is it that hard to figure out what the Saker meant? A correspondent for the Financial Times wrote pretty much the same thing, and had to change what he wrote, because he was viciously attacked by the lovers of liberty.

Posted by: Demian | Jan 11, 2015 9:40:45 PM | 67

Is history still relevant? Is it Islam that has the monopoly on violence? Here is Prof Runciman's description of the Frankish Crusaders sack of Alexandria in 1365.
"The victory was celebrated with unparalleled savagery. Two and a half centuries of Holy Warfare had taught the Crusaders nothing of humanity. The massacres were only equaled by those of Jerusalem in 1099, and Constantinople in 1204. The Moslems had not been so ferocious at Antioch or at Acre. Alexandria's wealth had been phenomenal; and the victors were maddened at the sight of so much booty. They spared no one. The native Christians and the Jews suffered as much as the Moslems, and even the European merchants settled in the city saw their factories and storehouses ruthlessly looted. Mosques and tombs were raided and their ornaments stolen or destroyed; churches too were sacked. Houses were entered, and householders who did not immediately hand over all their possessions were slaughtered with their families. Some five thousand prisoners, Christians, Jew as well as Moslems were taken to be sold as slaves. A long line of horses, asses, and camels carried the loot to the ships in the harbor and there having performed their task were killed. The whold city stank with the odour of human and animal corpses."

Posted by: Kraken | Jan 11, 2015 10:08:37 PM | 68

I am NOT Charlie


The folks at Charlie Hebdo had it coming. Here is what I wrote about them in September 2012 when they published their famous caricatures of the Prophet Mohammed: Worthy of the Darwin Awards, if you ask me. Excellent, the “gene pool” of the French “caviar-Left” badly needs some cleaning". Today I fully stand by my words.

Let me ask you this: what would be the point of, say, taking a nap on train tracks? You don't have to "agree" with the train which will run you over, but it still will, won't it? What about taking a nap on train tracks specifically to make a point? To prove that the train is bad? To dare it? To make fun of it? Would that not be the height of stupidity? And yet, that is *exactly* what Charlie Hebdo did. I would even argue that that his how Charlie Hebdo made it's money, daring the "Muslim train" to run them over. You think I am exaggerating? Check out the caricature which one of the folks who got murdered yesterday had just posted. The text reads: "Still no terrorist attacks in France - Wait, we have until the end of January to send you are best wishes". The crazy person shown in the drawing is packing a Kalashnikov and wearing an Afghan "Pakol" - the typical "crazy Muslim" in Charlie Hebdo's world. Talk about a stupid dare...


Seems clear to me that Saker meant that Charlie's actions were foolhardy, waving a redflag in front of a bull ... worse, he uses the analogy of a machine ... which may have been exactly what happened : the Imperial War Machine, 'seen its chance and took 'em'.

Posted by: jfl | Jan 11, 2015 10:32:17 PM | 69

@Kraken #77:

One does not need to look at history to know that the West rapes and pillages the Muslim world. However, I still think that Christianity is a "religion of peace" (that's an awful cliche, but relevant here), whereas Islam and Judaism are not. And I would not say that religious wars in Christianity have been directed only at Muslims. Roman Catholics also viciously attacked Protestant and Eastern Orthodox regions. The English settlers in North America who exterminated the native population, and bought black slaves from Muslims, were Anglicans and Calvinists.

So I stand by the claim I made earlier that not all branches of Christianity are peaceful, but Lutheranism and Russian Orthodoxy are. Russia acquired a large empire, sure, but it let the peoples it conquered keep their religion. The only real nastiness I can think of Lutherans engaging in was the Peasants' War, the purpose of which was to stop the Reformation from turning into a social revolution.

Posted by: Demian | Jan 11, 2015 10:45:37 PM | 70

@65 Julianna.

Last post didn't go thru.

When does the mass march opposed to mostly Christian based countries directing "state sponsored terrorism" take place?
I have a problem when I see these same political leaders at the front of the march.
Am I supposed to believe that certain events are more worthy of a mass march?

This isn't about freedoms. If it was, people like Assange, Snowden, Manning, and etc. etc.would not be rotting away in detention.
I don't care what the Saker or others say. I can read between the lines. The script the MSM gives is at odds with my reality. Sorry

Posted by: ..james | Jan 11, 2015 10:54:58 PM | 71

@all

Deleted a bunch of verbal diarrhea comments by "brian".

Note (again):

Collect your thoughts and put them in ONE comment at a a time with helpful, well-formed links if you want to. Do NOT throw in a bunch of one-liners, or just maleformed uncommented links, that distract from the flow of the thread - it will get you banned.

Posted by: b | Jan 11, 2015 11:13:19 PM | 72

To James at 71:

Perhaps I wasn't clear enough in my post. When I said that I didn't understand why Saker was calling 'these people' names, the 'these people' I was referring to were the citizens in various parts of France who came out in droves to express their emotions after the shocking events in their country over several days.

I personally think those leaders looked extremely foolish and perhaps even a little scared. Were I one of them I might feel that way as well. This was not a Nuremberg adoration crowd behind them, around them. The people were not saying 'Je suis Hollande' or 'Je suis Sarkozy.' Like it or not, the magazine represented Frenchness to them. So, let it be. They have the right. It's their country and they understand it.

This was an outpouring of national sentiment, such as happened in the US after 9/11, after the Kennedy assassination. I called it a protest, and I really think it was. Humanity saying 'we grieve violent acts.' Humanity saying 'we want this to end; it has gone too far.' And to say, as Saker did, well, they didn't come out for this or that atrocity in this or that other place and so they are zombies - well, yes, they didn't. But this one hit home, and they did, and all innocents who have been murdered in all other countries - their tragedies infuse this one.

Honor them.

Posted by: juliania | Jan 11, 2015 11:51:10 PM | 73

Well if they want it to end they better get a bit smarter and stop falling for every psyop false flag thrown their way then. They need to stop swallowing all the ridiculous lies. They need to start thinking for themselves for a change

And the uniformity on display as a result of the je suis charlie media campaign is not at all encouraging in that regard.

Posted by: Rogan Josh | Jan 12, 2015 12:10:16 AM | 74

james @ 71: "When does the mass march opposed to mostly Christian based countries directing "state sponsored terrorism" take place?"

Exactly the question no Western MSM outlet will ever ask. The masses will never hear about the West's support, directly and indirectly, for the Takfiri scum they control, because the masses won't see or hear about them on the TV or radio.

Posted by: ben | Jan 12, 2015 12:12:14 AM | 75

On the West's support for Takfiris:

http://www.islamicinvitationturkey.com/2014/06/03/west-allowed-takfiri-extremists-to-thrive-analyst/

Posted by: ben | Jan 12, 2015 12:18:32 AM | 76

@73 Julianna

I hear what you are saying but do you hear what I am saying?

The lopsided selection and coverage of events,not to mention which ones get mass support says something to me. No offence, but where are these same citizens or leaders when it comes to the ongoing bs they are directly or inderctly supporting here like the war on the east of Ukraine, or most of Syria? Do they have to wait until it slaps them close to home? It looks like it. Too much of this strikes me like islamophobia, or the other phobia being cultivated with vigor - russiophobia.. Sorry but I am having difficulty honouring what looks like an approaching train wreck.that is what western culture looks like to me at this point.

Posted by: ..james | Jan 12, 2015 2:26:52 AM | 77

Turkish Prime minister Davudoglu is also on the march whose friends has defended assailants in Madımak hotel incident that was set on fire by religious zealots in Turkey killing 37 people.

Posted by: sarper yasar | Jan 12, 2015 11:05:54 AM | 78

Indeed, James, I agree wholeheartedly with those points. I simply do not think we can assume that the huge numbers of peaceful marchers on Sunday support what western leaders, and in particular their own, have orchestrated to further the imperialistic dominance of oligarchical rule. I was struck by a further statement of the brother of the slain policeman:

"As news spread that the gunned down policeman was a Muslim, the hashtag #JeSuisAhmed began spreading on Twitter in solidarity. One user, identified as @Aboujahjah, said: “I am not Charlie, I am Ahmed the dead cop. Charlie ridiculed my faith and culture and I died defending his right to do so.”

A woman in the march spoke to a reporter saying "We want to show we are not afraid." These are genuine personal feelings, which admittedly are being exploited by those who have the microphones. I don't watch any mainstream media news these days, because I know the exploitation has reached fever pitch. We don't need fevers. We don't need fear. And above all, we need only to follow our consciences and not generalize in our condemnation of others. And we need to think for ourselves. I think b has the right approach here.

I don't have a copy to quote from, but I believe in 'Wind, Sand, and Stars' the writer Antoine de Saint-Exupery writes about being lost in the desert and having an Arab save his life. The power of his description of this event has stayed with me.

Posted by: juliania | Jan 12, 2015 11:36:31 AM | 79

What lovely irony… Hollande in his speech called on ppl to “refuse caricatures” and to not let anyone “denigrate France.” Ha ha ha… Enjoining ppl not to think/act along the lines of C. Hebdo!

Oops, I guess I missed something ;) Hollande was talking about real life, and not ‘humour’.

So that depends on how you viewed C. Hebdo - as a champion of laicité (secularism) and foreignors in F or as cowards wielding ugly, state-sponsored humor to champion islamophobia (and russophobia ..)

The PTB in F now defending free speech (whatever that is..) will now crack down on it with more censorship, surveillance, cutting off blogs, etc.

So, it is a War is Peace, Love is Domination, scene. They march for ...for what exactly?

Free expression of some kind all the same, however one looks at it, but really, they are determinedly against it and aim to oppress more...

I had hoped that the French aren't as stupid and as easily manipulated as Americans. I was wrong. It looks like France has been Americanized, as Germany had been earlier. Demian at x.

France is cooked. Le Temps (swiss paper) titled: 88 000 ppl mobilised against ‘terror’ in France (police, army, etc. Not, of course, that the number is really indicative of anything.) For 12 dead.

F actually was cooked a long time ago, but managed to escape notice because of media censorship, French ‘singularity’ - always being edgy and supposedly ‘different’ and internal EU politics, where it is subservient to Germany so can posit mock opposition.

—hi uncle scam glad to see you back hello to all the other moonbats. not too many left, sadly. i miss beq and others as well.

Posted by: Noirette | Jan 12, 2015 12:06:38 PM | 80

Rufus M. @35

My favorite Jim Morrison quote: "America can’t get it up without a gun"

And my favorite Doors' tune: "Riders On The Storm"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wbx6gULYNbc

Posted by: Cynthia | Jan 12, 2015 12:59:03 PM | 81

I don't have a copy to quote from, but I believe in 'Wind, Sand, and Stars' the writer Antoine de Saint-Exupery writes about being lost in the desert and having an Arab save his life. The power of his description of this event has stayed with me.

Posted by: juliania | Jan 12, 2015 11:36:31 AM | 79

Kafka wrote on the subject of Arabs and Europeans, Jews etc

He called it "Jackals and Arabs"

A fairly apt title from his p.o.v. I'm sure

Posted by: Rogan Josh | Jan 12, 2015 1:10:22 PM | 82

and K also wrote yet another story which could easily act as a metaphor for the destructive effect of Zionism on the Arab world


AN OLD MANUSCRIPT
1
AN OLD MANUSCRIPT
FRANZ KAFKA

I have a cobbler’s workshop in the square that lies before the
Emperor’s palace. Scarcely have I taken my shutters down, at the first
glimpse of dawn, when I see armed soldiers already posted in the mouth of
every street opening on the square.

But these soldiers are not ours; they are
obviously nomads from the North. In some way that is incomprehensible to
me they have pushed right into the capital, although it is a long way from the
frontier. At any rate, here they are; it seems that every morning there are
more of them.

As is their nature, they camp under the open sky, for they abominate
dwelling houses. They busy themselves sharpening swords, whittling
arrows and practicing horsemanship. This peaceful square, which was
always kept scrupulously clean, they have made literally into a stable. We
do try every now and then to run out of our shops and clear away at least the
worst of the filth, but this happens less and less often, for the labor is in vain
and brings us besides into danger of falling under the hoofs of the wild
horses or of being crippled with lashes from the whips.
Speech with the nomads is impossible.

They do not know our
language; indeed they hardly have a language of their own. They
communicate with each other much as jackdaws do. A screeching of
jackdaws is always in our ears. Our way of living and our institutions they
neither understand nor care to understand. And so they are unwilling to
make sense even out of our sign language.

Posted by: Rogan Josh | Jan 12, 2015 1:19:19 PM | 83

The stench of capitalist imperialism - formerly western democracy - Its "free speech" "luminaries" have degenerated into a cartoonish Dick Tracy mugshot lineup of thugs murderers and dictators.

Posted by: 1968ES330 | Jan 12, 2015 2:50:37 PM | 84

@79 Julianna. Thank you, and thank you for those quotes, especially the one who identified with Ahmed the dead cop.

Posted by: ..james | Jan 12, 2015 5:30:28 PM | 85

'“My brother was Muslim and he was killed by two terrorists, by two false Muslims,” he said. “Islam is a religion of peace and love. '

this is doubtful, historically

Posted by: brian | Jan 13, 2015 6:12:07 PM | 86

Given that Charlie Hebdo specialised in degrading caricatures of figuers like Mohammed or the Popes, 3 million people rallied for the right to insult degrade demean slander demonise...and noone has the right to stop them

even tho france made hate speech illegal!

from 2013:France decrees that "hateful tweets are illegal" to 2015: #JeSuisCharlie free speech circus
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/jan/02/free-speech-twitter-france

the shock therapy had the desired effect? to u do this law?

Posted by: brian | Jan 13, 2015 6:15:51 PM | 87

a positive view of the law against hate speech at least on twitter
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/jan/02/praise-vallaud-belkacem-hate-speech-twitter

did 3 million people rally to get this law rescinded? is hate speech worth supporting?

Posted by: brian | Jan 13, 2015 6:25:37 PM | 88

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