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January 25, 2015
Open Thread 2015-05
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American Sniper, an incitement to hatred against Muslims … Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jan 25 2015 20:25 utc | 1 Are they afraid of a full war of KSA against Yemen? Posted by: Mina | Jan 25 2015 20:34 utc | 2 Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jan 25 2015 21:02 utc | 3 A contemporary look @ crime & justice? in Colombia. Posted by: Shadow9echo | Jan 25 2015 21:28 utc | 4 Thanks to Graham Phillips tweeting from Donetsk Posted by: Lone Wolf | Jan 25 2015 21:52 utc | 5 Uncle$, Posted by: juannie | Jan 25 2015 23:49 utc | 7 Old news, but worth recalling this kind of government malpractice: New York Times
Posted by: guest77 | Jan 25 2015 23:54 utc | 8 Juannie at 7 — Posted by: rufus magister | Jan 26 2015 0:51 utc | 9 Given the ubiquitous nature of IT and surveillance capabilities, I am of a mind that any popular opposition movement needs to develop structure and tactics in which it either doesn’t matter what the police and NSA know, and/or the sheer volume of information works against them, overloading them or perhaps even as a smoke-screen for us.
Posted by: Vintage Red | Jan 26 2015 1:29 utc | 11 VR @ 11 — Posted by: rufus magister | Jan 26 2015 2:07 utc | 12 From the Guarnad:
Now, we’ll see if such events are “allowed”. Already, in an interview with Yanis Varoufakis, a BBC interviewer threatened “you know what happened last time Greeks tried to overthrow the oligarchy…”. Posted by: guest77 | Jan 26 2015 2:12 utc | 13 As Varoufakis said: “Greece may force Europe to change.” Let’s be bold, maybe Greece somehow can be the pebble that starts the landslide that changes things everywhere. Posted by: Ken Nari | Jan 26 2015 2:32 utc | 15 @ #6 & 10: Thanks for the links on the Greek election. Cause for hope indeed. Posted by: ben | Jan 26 2015 2:48 utc | 16 Interview with Yanis Yarouufakis, Syriza’s new finance minister. Posted by: ben | Jan 26 2015 2:54 utc | 17 All aboard the ‘Lolita Express’: Flight logs reveal the many trips Bill Clinton and Alan Dershowitz took on pedophile Jeffrey Epstein’s private jet with anonymous women Posted by: guest77 | Jan 26 2015 2:58 utc | 18
It’s been the plan since 2003. Posted by: guest77 | Jan 26 2015 3:04 utc | 19 Quote from a Guardian article on Greece: “The hour of the left has come. The hour of the left has come. Hope has finally arrived.” Posted by: ben | Jan 26 2015 4:06 utc | 21 Russian Spring Posted by: Fete | Jan 26 2015 4:55 utc | 22 guess77 @ 18: Cannonfire’s latest might interest you, on J. Epstein. Posted by: ben | Jan 26 2015 5:02 utc | 23 @23 Posted by: jfl | Jan 26 2015 5:32 utc | 24 can we blame the myanmar govn for wetting their pants and ditching china for the murcunts ? Posted by: denk | Jan 26 2015 6:40 utc | 25 @21 ben Posted by: ..james | Jan 26 2015 7:32 utc | 26 General’s A-10 treason comment sparks concerns over protected speech
This particular ‘dispute’ is about a place at the trough at the pentagon. It will probably be ‘resolved’ by funding everything – hammering yet another nail into the coffins of ordinary Americans in order to further enrich the 1% on Wall Street in their (‘counter’) terrorism play of the milennium. Posted by: jfl | Jan 26 2015 8:38 utc | 27 Under the heading of ‘you cannot make this up’ … 18 Posted by: ChipNikh | Jan 26 2015 10:04 utc | 29 @Uncle $cam. Posted by: ralphieboy | Jan 26 2015 10:28 utc | 30
This makes me question whether we might see another false flag terror attack, assuming Boehner is more a part of the deep state than O. Posted by: okie farmer | Jan 26 2015 14:04 utc | 31 This is a change in tone.
Posted by: x | Jan 26 2015 14:08 utc | 32 America needs leadership. America needs heroes. If heroes can’t be found or even conjured, they must be fabricated. Sad is the land that needs a hero, but pathetic is the land that makes them up out of thick, polluted air. America is shitting itself. It needs something, and that something is not a hero, it’s an… Posted by: Cold N. Holefield | Jan 26 2015 14:53 utc | 33 Interesting article from TASS: Путин: попытки переписать историю означают оправдание нацизма (Putin: Attempts to rewrite history amount to a justification of Nazism)
This does not adhere to the official Western account of the Holocaust. No mention is made of gas chambers or six million Jews. I suppose it is only a matter of time before Putin gets called a Holocaust denier: he’s been called practically everything else by now. @Vintage Red #11 Posted by: c1ue | Jan 26 2015 15:01 utc | 35 http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jan/25/wikileaks-google-staff-emails-us-government
~~~ Posted by: okie farmer | Jan 26 2015 15:11 utc | 36 @36 google sucks… may as well have an account with the nsa for all it matters. in fact if folks start confusing google with the nsa, i would completely understand.. Posted by: ..james | Jan 26 2015 15:26 utc | 37 Talking about whistle blowing … Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jan 26 2015 16:12 utc | 38 @jfl no. 28 Posted by: sleepy | Jan 26 2015 16:16 utc | 39 @rufus magister:
This is something to think about. Overthrowing the illegal fascist junta would solve several problems. (1) It would throw the rug from underneath the US/EU/NATO aggressors, by preserving a unitary Ukraine, depriving them of their narrative that Russia wants to grab territory. (2) It would make it impossible for NATO to continue arming the fascists, thus ensuring the security of Novorossiya. (3) By removing the fascists from power, the Nazification of the Ukrainian people would be stopped. The sooner that happens, the better. Very good news from Novorossiya, Novorossiyan Armed Forces (NAF) have closed the gap at the Posted by: Lone Wolf | Jan 26 2015 16:42 utc | 41 On Hope Reborn? Maracatu at 6. (worth listening to while, as I was, peeling veggies.) Posted by: Noirette | Jan 26 2015 16:46 utc | 42 The real problem for TPB in BIG data mining is knowing what’s important. And those who aren’t able to SEE patterns tend to think collecting MORE data will be efficacious. Not so. Sure. They can design models and bots that churn and sort HUGE reams of data in nano-seconds. But it requires human intervention to know what to look for. Or to see something that reveals truth. The most valuable information is making “connections”. It takes imagination, intuition and curiosity to follow “the path less traveled”. Posted by: giddy | Jan 26 2015 16:50 utc | 43 Overthrowing the illegal fascist junta would solve several problems. Posted by: Cold N. Holefield | Jan 26 2015 17:02 utc | 44 Canada to impose new sanctions on Russia, due to Mariupol incident: http://en.censor.net.ua/news/321657/canada_to_impose_additional_sanctions_against_russia_trough_recent_attacks_on_mariupol Posted by: KMF | Jan 26 2015 17:15 utc | 45 @ 42 Noirette: Thanks for the link, good read, and the author is right. I’m waiting now for the media propaganda against the new Gov. It’ll be extensive and loud. More big money against the people. Posted by: ben | Jan 26 2015 17:23 utc | 46 Overthrowing the illegal fascist junta would solve several problems. Posted by: Noirette | Jan 26 2015 17:35 utc | 47 Spot the geographical inaccuracy on the Sky News map. It seems the people of Donetsk have had enough and decided to leave, taking the city with them. Posted by: Pat Bateman | Jan 26 2015 17:45 utc | 48 @48 Ah now we know what all those Russian tanks were doing. They towed Donetsk over the border. Posted by: dh | Jan 26 2015 17:49 utc | 49 Is this the nato that Russia should fear lol? Posted by: Anonymous | Jan 26 2015 17:52 utc | 50 Further bad news from Russia. Public prosecutor found another “foreign agent”, this time it’s… Committee Against Torture. After recent changes in law, foreign funding is not required to consider a suspect to be a “foreign agent”. It’s sufficient that the organisation is “trying to influence govenment policy”. And here’s the prosecutor’s argument:
So if the Committee’s actions to prevent violence by law enforcement are considered as attempts “change the policy of the government”, then the torture must be part of the government’s policy, right? Posted by: Ulster | Jan 26 2015 18:55 utc | 51 A couple of docus straight from Novorussia frontline’s (via Vineyard of the Saker): Posted by: citizen x | Jan 26 2015 20:08 utc | 52 @Demian@40 Posted by: Lone Wolf | Jan 26 2015 21:52 utc | 53 Max Blumanthal on the propanganda film “Sniper”. Posted by: ben | Jan 26 2015 21:52 utc | 54 26.01.2015 Military Report of Novorossia, ~ 0:32 – 1:10
The Novorossyan federalists and the fascists’ Ukrainian conscripts inaugurate common cause against NATO’s foreign legions? @47 Posted by: jfl | Jan 26 2015 23:53 utc | 56 @Lone Wolf #53:
@57 Posted by: jfl | Jan 27 2015 0:28 utc | 58 @jfl #58: PB & dh at 48, 49 — ROTFLMAO. The city is no doubt in the possession of Poroshenko’s invisible column of Russian regulars. Posted by: rufus magister | Jan 27 2015 1:45 utc | 60 Demian @ 59 — When we kicked around jazz a while ago, we both overlooked the maybe the most popular jazz soundtrack — Guaraldi’s “Charlie Brown Christmas.” Posted by: rufus magister | Jan 27 2015 2:24 utc | 61 These kinds of idiotic lies are exactly where “History” is headed:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article40811.htm Posted by: guest77 | Jan 27 2015 2:39 utc | 62 Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jan 27 2015 2:45 utc | 63 So recall last month we had Feinstein trying to stand up (in a whimpering, pathetic sort of way) about the CIA pissing on the Constitution by running secret operations aimed at preventing the Legislative Branch from maintaining proper oversight over them. And this week we have her…. urging for an expansion of the CIA war in Syria! Posted by: guest77 | Jan 27 2015 2:47 utc | 64 These are at least part of the picture of who the US is sending to Ukraine – “strategic communicators” part of whose job is “improving the sustainability of U.S. military sales” because…you know… the CEO of Raytheon has to eat too.
Anyway… Posted by: guest77 | Jan 27 2015 3:08 utc | 65 @guest77#18:
Posted by: Rusty Pipes | Jan 27 2015 3:14 utc | 66 @64 Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jan 27 2015 3:22 utc | 67 @Rusty – I think you are right. These powerful individuals promise these girls this or that, knowing they intend to treat them like little more than blow up dolls. Its extremely manipulative. And these of course are the guys who are caught – there is no telling what kind of violence goes along with this sort of thing. Posted by: guest77 | Jan 27 2015 3:37 utc | 68 @67 hahah. I’m not sure my brain could take all that. I had enough trouble with “Lost Highway”. Posted by: guest77 | Jan 27 2015 3:39 utc | 69 This looks good for those who like to read government documents:
Posted by: guest77 | Jan 27 2015 3:41 utc | 70 More on the deep state: Posted by: okie farmer | Jan 27 2015 3:57 utc | 71 http://motherboard.vice.com/en_uk/read/how-the-pentagons-skynet-would-automate-war Posted by: okie farmer | Jan 27 2015 4:05 utc | 72 Rupert Murdoch’s Sky News Portrays Ukraine’s ‘Far Right’ as ‘Heroes’ Posted by: guest77 | Jan 27 2015 4:10 utc | 73 Last post, I promise. Probably been posted before but this seems to be a gold mine of info related to Russia and Novorussia: http://fortruss.blogspot.com/ Posted by: guest77 | Jan 27 2015 4:13 utc | 74 If You Thought Stop-And-Frisk Was Bad, You Should Know About Jump-Outs
“I knew they were ‘police’ per se, but they weren’t moving, talking or behaving in any way like police usually do,” Hadieh said. “It was highly tactical and organized, very militarized.” Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jan 27 2015 4:25 utc | 75 Further to nr. 60 —
Hawk states that “Everybody on the Ukrainian far-right is saying these things. The war is going badly, the generals and the politicians have lost it, now is our turn…. Biletsky is positioning himself for the inevitable post-campaign recriminations toward, well, everybody within the current Ukrainian political elite. Even though his own military accomplishments are nil….” Posted by: rufus magister | Jan 27 2015 4:33 utc | 76 Russian Spring Posted by: Fete | Jan 27 2015 5:29 utc | 78 further to 60 —
Hawk says that “Everybody on the Ukrainian far-right is saying these things. The war is going badly, the generals and the politicians have lost it, now is our turn…. Biletsky is positioning himself for the inevitable post-campaign recriminations toward, well, everybody within the current Ukrainian political elite. Even though his own military accomplishments are nil….” Posted by: rufus magister | Jan 27 2015 5:33 utc | 79 Uncle $cam @63, from one of the last paragraphs in the LONG article: Posted by: okie farmer | Jan 27 2015 6:42 utc | 80 Chief Nazi-Hunter: Russia President Should Have Been the First Name to Be Invited to Auschwitz
Nice to see someone make the issue here crystal clear. I detected that Shaun Walker has some human decency, and now I am vindicated. I think some people here are too hard on him.
Just another way how Ukrainians are back to their old Banderite behavior of committing genocide. @80
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Now these assertions may well be true … but assertions is all they are, undocumented. There are links scattered elsewhere throughout the text, but Nafeez Ahmed hurts himself badly with ‘shocking’ assertions like these … with no backup. Posted by: jfl | Jan 27 2015 12:46 utc | 84 jfl, I had the same misgivings about so many undocumented assertions. OTH, Nafeez does document a hell of a lot. Just exposing the Highlands Group, an outfit I’d never heard of, has to be appreciated. Posted by: okie farmer | Jan 27 2015 14:54 utc | 85 *Moving forward on issues of the civil nuclear deal, technology transfer and joint ventures in defence will be among the key areas where India and the US would like to have ‘concrete deliverables’ during the three day high voltage trip of Mr Obama Posted by: denk | Jan 27 2015 17:29 utc | 86 Mike “Mish” Shedlock has some links regarding the situation in Ukraine: Posted by: Willy2 | Jan 27 2015 23:18 utc | 87 The shelling of Mariopol is simply a retaliation of what the ukrainians did to the civilian population of e.g. Donetsk. Posted by: Willy2 | Jan 27 2015 23:24 utc | 88 @85 Posted by: jfl | Jan 28 2015 0:36 utc | 90 @Willf2 #88:
The rebels don’t retaliate by murdering civilians. Also, they did not have any Grads in range. It was the Ukies who fired the Grads at Mariopol, either because they were aiming at rebel positions but the Grads fell short, or because this was another false flag. @Guest77#68: Posted by: Rusty Pipes | Jan 28 2015 0:49 utc | 92 Ever wonder why this country has become a shithole…
Also see,
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jan 28 2015 1:53 utc | 93 To judge from the headlines posted at Fort Russ, things have slowed a bit along the front. Posted by: rufus magister | Jan 28 2015 2:04 utc | 94 This is another Alternative Views which the Epstein case reminds me of: Boys For Sale. It’s extremely disturbing to think of what these kids go through. Especially the ones who don’t make it through. Demian 91 Posted by: denk | Jan 28 2015 4:40 utc | 97 Russian Spring Posted by: Fete | Jan 28 2015 4:58 utc | 98 @Willy2 Posted by: acrimonious | Jan 28 2015 13:03 utc | 99 obama authorise hellfire spitting drones to kill *terrarists suspects* all over the world, but his regime frowns on commercial and hobbyists drones, it has been mulling over new law to curb them. Posted by: denk | Jan 28 2015 17:03 utc | 100 |
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