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January 17, 2015

Open Thread 2015-04

(Sorry, no post. A family emergency that requires some travel etc. keeps me busy.)

News & views ...

(..and pleaze behave ...)

Posted by b on January 17, 2015 at 18:30 UTC | Permalink

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Best wishes as you deal with the family things.

Posted by: Helena | Jan 17 2015 18:39 utc | 1

Weapons of Paris attacks may have come from volunteer Ukraine batallion

French Police have asked their Ukrainian counterparts for information regarding the potential Ukrainian origin of AK-47 weapons used in the recent Charlie Hebdo massacre in Paris France. The request comes after French investigation have revealed links between the perpetrators of the terrorist act Said Kouachi, Cherif Kouachi and Hamyd Mourad with the Ukrainian Volunteer Sheikh Mansur Battalion run by Isa Munaev a former Chechen associate of slain Islamic State in Syria leader Sheik Omar al-Shishani. Munaev is suspected of running a smuggling operation whereby weapons from the Ukraine conflict are being smuggled into Europe via returning Volunteer fighters and sold to collectors and potential in this case have fallen into the hands of terrorists.

Posted by: somebody | Jan 17 2015 19:25 utc | 2

And who arms the 'Ukrainian volunteer battalions', hmm?

Posted by: L Bean | Jan 17 2015 19:35 utc | 3

Echoing Helena, hope all goes well.

I'm sure you all have commented this, so I'll highlight this, instead:

Last week, a group of Colombian plaintiffs asked the U.S. Supreme Court to revive their lawsuit against banana giant Chiquita. This case presents an opportunity for the Supreme Court to clarify its 2013 decision in Kiobel v. Royal Dutch Shell and give much needed guidance to plaintiffs and businesses regarding when a corporation may be liable under U.S. law for human rights abuses committed abroad.

Posted by: Maracatu | Jan 17 2015 21:19 utc | 4

CIA Internal Review Clears CIA Of Senate Hacking Allegations; Claims Senate Improperly Accessed Classified Documents

Posted by: ALAN | Jan 17 2015 21:29 utc | 5

@somebody #2


Source: StalinLives blogger
Video on YouTube StalinLives TV Channel 2

French Police Suspect Ukrainian Volunteer Battalion Origin for Charlie Hebdo AK47’s

From his WordPress blogsite, location Sydney, Australia – started May 31, 2014.

It could be from a propaganda site paid for by intelligence service, see the Sydney Institute with executive director Gerard Henderson.

Australia Think Tank Secrets - 2003

Posted by: Oui | Jan 17 2015 22:04 utc | 6

I hope everything is OK.

Posted by: nmb | Jan 17 2015 22:20 utc | 7

Draghi blackmails Greeks

Posted by: nmb | Jan 17 2015 22:22 utc | 8


There could be some truth to this story, arms dealing is widespread but the claim that Abu Omar is dead is not reliable. He has been killed three times according to Iraqi sources yet he still seems to be leading the Islamic State military in Syria.

Posted by: Wayoutwest | Jan 17 2015 22:58 utc | 9

amusingly on NBC news, in its story on Muslim riots after the publication of the New Charlie Hebdo, mentioned jewish Germans recalling "old fears" implying they might be targets but all you saw was armed German cops outside a building which giving the German Governments role in rounding up Jews in a previous century......

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Posted by: massoud | Jan 17 2015 23:58 utc | 11

Abu Omar Trained by British/US In Georgia

Chechen ISIL Military Commander Abu Umar al-Shishani Reportedly Killed – Again??

Back in 27 October 2014, The Daily Beast published an exclusive report on Abu Umar al-Shishani and his family back in Georgia. And this is where the best of sources laid out the facts about the mystical Chechen ISIL commander/fighter, namely, his father, Temur Borchashvili. The senior Temur is a Christian who married a woman from a Muslim family. He is a straight forward old man that has nothing to hide about his son’s radicalization and how he ended up fighting for ISIL. During the interview with the Daily Beast he spills the beans on his two sons fighting for ISIL. Yes, you read correctly, Abu Umar al-shishani is not the only one. His older brother Tamaz Borchashvili is also in Syria, but is a very shadowy individual, as he, according to their father is the real ‘mastermind’ working for ISIL.

The Secret Life of an ISIS Warlord

Posted by: Oui | Jan 18 2015 0:01 utc | 12


Who knows about anything coming out of French 'security'? The site does seem to be linking the CIA's Chechens to the NAZI side in the Ukraine. The CIA's Jamestown site seems proud of the fact. Smells even more like the Boston Marathon, doesn't it?

I really don't have much faith in anything I read anymore, with state-sponsored terror having moved openly into the mshm.

The French Government has openly taken over the production of Charlie, for goodness sakes. I just cannot get over that.

Posted by: jfl | Jan 18 2015 0:13 utc | 13

Israel's Connection to Syrian Chechens via War in Georgia?

War in Georgia: The Israeli connection | Ynet News | Aug. 2008 |
IDF vets who trained Georgia troops say war with Russia is no surprise - 2008

Posted by: Oui | Jan 18 2015 0:34 utc | 14


The story you linked to was interesting if a bit melodramatic as is your title. I didn't know about his older brother but Abu Omar has proven himself to be a formidable military leader.

I particularly liked the "Fierce Chechen Bride" description.

Posted by: Wayoutwest | Jan 18 2015 0:42 utc | 15

Folks at 13 11 5 2--

If you look back, I've posted a no. bits noting Chechen and other Islamic fighters, originating in Russian-lang. media, fighting there. At least some Ukrainian nationalists see them as natural allies, and have called for Islamicists in the Caucuses to attack their mutual enemy.

hile France has recently moved to oppose sanctions, Hollande the interventionist has no reason to undercut the senior partner too much by falsely implicating the Ukraine, even indirectly.

What I find interesting is the fact Georgia keeps coming up. DC gingered up Tblisi and then left them hanging when the Russians responded effectively. At least some in Georgia are still ready to serve as "boots on the ground," be it corridors of power or out in the field.

And while where tracing weapons, U.S-Made Weapons Seized at Donetsk Airport.

Some good news, from the Lugansk Front: Ukrainian forces are taking stunning losses.

and finally to b -- I'm on the wagon, I'll behave. Chocolate milk for me, bartender.

Posted by: rufus magister | Jan 18 2015 1:08 utc | 17

Princeton Study: U.S. No Longer An Actual Democracy

PublishedAPRIL 18, 2014, 10:43 AM EDT
A new study from Princeton spells bad news for American democracy—namely, that it no longer exists.

Asking "[w]ho really rules?" researchers Martin Gilens and Benjamin I. Page argue that over the past few decades America's political system has slowly transformed from a democracy into an oligarchy, where wealthy elites wield most power.

Using data drawn from over 1,800 different policy initiatives from 1981 to 2002, the two conclude that rich, well-connected individuals on the political scene now steer the direction of the country, regardless of or even against the will of the majority of voters.

TPM Interview: Scholar Behind Viral 'Oligarchy' Study Tells You What It Means

"The central point that emerges from our research is that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy," they write, "while mass-based interest groups and average citizens have little or no independent influence."

As one illustration, Gilens and Page compare the political preferences of Americans at the 50th income percentile to preferences of Americans at the 90th percentile as well as major lobbying or business groups. They find that the government—whether Republican or Democratic—more often follows the preferences of the latter group rather than the first.

The researches note that this is not a new development caused by, say, recent Supreme Court decisions allowing more money in politics, such as Citizens United or this month's ruling on McCutcheon v. FEC. As the data stretching back to the 1980s suggests, this has been a long term trend, and is therefore harder for most people to perceive, let alone reverse.

"Ordinary citizens," they write, "might often be observed to 'win' (that is, to get their preferred policy outcomes) even if they had no independent effect whatsoever on policy making, if elites (with whom they often agree) actually prevail."

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jan 18 2015 1:08 utc | 18


" needs to analyze the two routes to Euro Crisis separately. The only way a failure of the Troika negotiations would be likely to have major effects in the rest of Europe would be if it produced an exit of Greece from the Euro. Short of that, Greece might refuse to fully repay some of its government debt. This default would produce some turmoil in Europe, but 80 percent of Greece’s government debt is now owed to other official bodies across Europe, plus the IMF, and such a loss could be managed when spread across these countries (taxpayers and deposit account holders.)" Brookings Institute

Perpetual Looting app v 15, in plain view.

Posted by: Chip Nihk | Jan 18 2015 1:31 utc | 20

Billion-dollar deal: Russia to sell space rocket engines to US company!!!

Posted by: neretva'43 | Jan 18 2015 1:37 utc | 21


Tsyklon-4 is a new Ukrainian heavy-lift launch vehicle based on the Tsyklon LV family. Tsyklon launch vehicles are designed by the Yuzhnoe Design Bureau and manufactured by Yuzhmash (both in Dnipropetrovsk, Ukraine).

Russia still controls Dnipropetrovsk.

Behind Orange Revolution was US Neo-Con putsch for a New 'Space Race', one in which Boeing-Lockheed NO BID contracts would be used to recreate the defunct NASA Heavy Lift program, ostensibly around the wholly sci-fi fantasy of 'Mission Mars', because there's no use developing US heavy lift engines without $100Bs to blow into WADC-NOVA offshore bank accounts.

Now it appears Boeing-Lockheed will lease the Ukrainian (RU) Tsyklon heavy-lift engine components, assemble them in Free Trade Giga-Factory zones, label them 'Made in America' and get NASAs NO BID future $100Bs in funding increases.

Bada-boom bada-bing

Posted by: Chip Nihk | Jan 18 2015 1:56 utc | 22

So, the anticipated crank-up of the EU's Central Bank printing presses in a few weeks may well be just to cover the number-hole left by any Greek post-election default/withdrawal from Euro etc -- i.e. nothing more than a math exercise on virtual balance sheets.

Posted by: x | Jan 18 2015 2:02 utc | 23

And finally a Herzen Institute project, to further the UberMensch' recent Dark Swastika Event, by market-branding Russia-Iran as the 'Far Right' in MSM pan-media, versus the Dark Lords of US/UK/EU/Kiev as the 'Third Way Freedom Lovers', this psyop series: Special Project of Institute of Modern Russia

Posted by: Chip Nihk | Jan 18 2015 2:08 utc | 24

Russian Spring


An artillery commander from a brigade of Lugansk Ministry of Defense “Engineer” expressed his view of situation on Lugansk fronts:

Almost no strikes through the last night. A truce for Epiphany celebrations, which I did not exactly ask for.

Bask to truth. The stories how we heroically fight street battles in Stanitsa-Luganskay are baseless. A separation line passes along Donets river as it was. Combat is mainly carried on by artillery. The situation is fairly stable.

Pressing us toward outpost 32 was indeed attempted, but ended with nothing.

Our casualties for last week in the brigade amounted to 4 “three hundredth” (killed) and 2 “two hundredth”, lightly wounded, will return in ranks in 3-4 weeks.

Whether the two-day ceasefire is a good thing or not so? They are going to consolidate again, replace worn units with new ones. For the last 3 days we have them punted quite well. 100+ tons shells fired fairly accurately… demoralizing is guaranteed.

Let’s see; and further build the army meantime.

Russian Spring


The leadership of Lugansk Republic and loyal to Kiyev administration of the greater region have achieved agreement for brief cessation of fire during Epiphany celebrations January 18-19, as confirmed by the Head of Republic Igor` Plotnitskiy. “The agreement was reached; we exchanged with the letters of commitment” – he said.

Russian Spring


Lugansk Republic conducts test flights of restored aircraft:

On January 15 “Russia’s Spring” announced official birth of military aviation of Novorossia. Lugansk Republic has acquired some aircraft such as jet fighters Su-25, museum helicopters and several trainer aircraft L-29 “Dolphin”, which could be used to strike ground targets.

One of the jet fighters Su-25 is being restored on one industrial plant of Lugansk Republic.

Some trainer aircraft L-29 “Dolphin” will be converted to fight ground targets. Necessary parts will be obtained from the Museum of Aviation in Lugansk as well as from other industrial enterprises of the region.

Russian Spring


An official of Donetsk Republic administration Oleg Frolov informed about situation in Donetsk:

The nationalists strike from settlement Peski and city Avdeevka. There are casualties among civilians. Known are two to five “200th” (killed) among civilian population.

Posted by: Fete | Jan 18 2015 3:58 utc | 25

Re Fete's regular (and welcome) Russian Spring reports.

It seems to me that the Kiev regime couldn't be more militarily incompetent, careless and eerily inept, if incompetence was its goal.

Is it possible that Kiev's 'army' is under exclusively civilian control?
Did Ukraine ever have a competent military apparatus - and if so, where are its pre-coup leaders and strategists now?

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jan 18 2015 4:23 utc | 26

@Hoarsewhisperer #25:

Did Ukraine ever have a competent military apparatus - and if so, where are its pre-coup leaders and strategists now?
After the breakup of the USSR, the Ukraine had no need for a competent military apparatus. And what competent military apparatus it did have was a leftover from the Sovet regime, which the people now in power in Kiev despise.

Ukrainian nationalism is based on the absurd fantasy that there is such a thing as the Ukrainian people or the Ukrainian nation. My impression is that after the coup, officers in the military who do not subscribe to this fantasy got purged. Thus the incompetence: the competent people in the Ukrainian military were not nationalists.

Posted by: Demian | Jan 18 2015 4:52 utc | 27

Posted by: Demian | Jan 17, 2015 11:52:37 PM | 26

Thank you. That explains a lot.
I had my doubts about their competence when they began shelling civilians from fixed artillery positions (relying on the presumption of a 'safe distance'). But when they announced a 'Winter Offensive' it looked as though someone had a screw loose; based on the recollection that the Afghan Resistance goes home for Winter, to recuperate and prepare for a Spring Offensive.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jan 18 2015 5:31 utc | 28

Even the Saker has taken to referring to the army of the fascist junta as "the Ukrainians". I think that that is counterproductive and obfuscating, since if the people of western Ukraine are Ukrainian (as opposed to Russian), then so are the people of Donbass. Referring to the fascist junta as "the Ukrainians" is to award the fascists a victory.

Posted by: Demian | Jan 18 2015 5:36 utc | 29


Ukraine is a bit more developed than Afghanistan and has many more all weather roads, I think Afghanistan has one. The Ukies can't blame their failures on the weather.

Posted by: Wayoutwest | Jan 18 2015 5:46 utc | 30


Good point, Demian Ukraine may not have existed as a separate nation for long but it does exist and Russia has shown no desire to annex the Donbas. I had hoped the resistance forces could have been able to retake the whole country with the help of western Ukraine supporters but the Russians seem to have decided that is not in Russia's interest.

Posted by: Wayoutwest | Jan 18 2015 5:55 utc | 31

@Wayoutwest #30:

I had hoped the resistance forces could have been able to retake the whole country with the help of western Ukraine supporters but the Russians seem to have decided that is not in Russia's interest.
First of all, there is no such thing as a monolithic "the Russians" here. Strelkov speaks for many Russians, but Strelkov and Putin have different approaches to the Ukraine problem. (And yes, Ukraine is a problem, not a country.)

I personally never had an expectation that the rebels would retake "the whole country". That would have involved a significantly nastier civil war than what exists at present, and would have cemented a Ukrainian national identity, which at present is flimsy except for fringe groups. Russians do everything they can to avoid war. Russians do not pursue the Anglo-Saxon way of war. Just recently, a Russian official called the US and Uk strategic bombardment of Germany "barbaric".

My impression is that the Kremlin is hoping that Ukrainian nationalism will burn itself out. Extending the civil war would have confirmed the Russophobic rants of Ukrainian nationalists. Ukrainians need to solve their Nazi problem themselves. Russians cannot be expected to do that for them.

Posted by: Demian | Jan 18 2015 6:20 utc | 32

D & WOW --

The Ukr. has fewer mts. and valleys for ambushes, too. Soviet armor and 'copters vulnerable. Banderaists and the mujahadeen have the same paymasters, though. Same basic approach (terror) in both, Cent. Am. in 80's as well. Good when we do it, bad for anyone else.

While I sympathize with the slogan "On to Kiev," I think D. is correct in saying the prob. best solved by the Ukrainians themselves (minus Novorossiyans, incl. Odessa and the entire Donbas, optimally). Too much "prompting" by Moscow would be counterproductive, but some still needed.

Posted by: rufus magister | Jan 18 2015 6:33 utc | 33

Probably fair take

Russia will obviously not allow the West-backed and installed Kiev regime to conquer the rump "NovoRossiya" by military means. This latest "offensive" of theirs will either peter out quickly or will end very badly for them if it expands in the Spring.

But the NAF is even less a coherent and organized force than the UAF/batallions (and that's saying a lot because Kiev has very limited control of its warlords and their death squads ie the "battalions) - with no real offensive capability or logistics network. They are only really a defensive force thus far, though it must be said competent at that. The Kremlin, further, purposefully and when necessary, brutally, weeds their leadership and retards their supplies and growth to make sure they cannot become truly independent of either Russia or Ukraine.

The Kremlin has gone out of their way to prevent the NAF from seizing even the rest of Donetsk or Lugansk Republics, letting them keep only this tiny rump principality which is only a third of the territory of the respective two Republics. They wouldn't even let the NAF take Donetsk airport for over 7 months. This was obviously a signal to the West of their limited intentions and an attempt to prevent the conflict from spiraling into anything bigger. The West either appears to have not gotten that message or completely ignored and taken advantage of it.

I guess the people in the frontlines are the "voluntary" battalions and there might be an unspoken agreement to get rid of them.

The real - political - fight is the hearts and minds, and economic viability.

Posted by: somebody | Jan 18 2015 6:34 utc | 34

S'by at 33 -

The real fight will be, when the offensive inevitably collapses, who gets stuck with the blame and what's the retribution? "Stab in the back" theory helped the Nazis get in, similar approach might keep the Banderaists stay in power, with a revised crop of crazies "in charge," i.e., next to the Wash. teat.

Given truncated terr., Novorossiya's biggest worry, apart from institution-bldg., is econ. viability, I'd say.

Posted by: rufus magister | Jan 18 2015 6:43 utc | 35

Posted by: Wayoutwest | Jan 18, 2015 12:46:32 AM | 29

All-weather roads is precisely what is wrong with Winter Offensives.

Q: "Gee, I wonder where Kiev's goons are today?"
A: "On or near an all-weather road accessible from the last all-weather road we spotted them on ... maybe?"

Afghans belong to small and exclusive club - of people who've been making invaders choke on their fantasies, and wish they'd never heard of the place, for hundreds of years. One could do worse than to emulate their time-tested approach to conflict.
And if one wants to get technical, the Vietnamese didn't have roads, a winter respite, or high-tech, but thrashed the French and used the same strategies to humiliate the dumbass Yankees whom, it should be remembered, went to Vietnam to show the French how REAL MEN teach primitives a lesson (while tripping over a plethora of expensive, irrelevant hardware).

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jan 18 2015 6:45 utc | 36

Hoarse @ 35 --

Viet Cong had the jungle, and when needed, made roads -- the so-called "Hanoi Highway" I believe the rte. in the West was known as. But at least along the coast, So. had decent rds., sea power mattered in the Mekong Delta (anyone remember Swift boats?).

Diem Bien Phu was a valley in which the Viet Minh were able to successfully besiege the Legionnaires. Artillery in the mts. a definite advantage.

Pop. support of course key in the long term.

Posted by: rufus magister | Jan 18 2015 7:08 utc | 37

DEA maintained secret database of Americans' phone calls

By Julian Hattem - 01/16/15 04:44 PM EST
The Drug Enforcement Administration formerly maintained a secret database of Americans’ telephone calls to some foreign countries, the Justice Department revealed this week.

A document filed by the department in a criminal case on Thursday revealed that the agency collected details about Americans’ calls to certain countries believed to be closely linked to drug trafficking networks.

The program is different from a more well-known database maintained by the National Security Agency (NSA), though it appears similar in some respects.
According to the government’s brief, the DEA tracked information about phone calls from the United States to other “designated” countries that were “determined to have a demonstrated nexus to international drug trafficking and related criminal activities.” The government did not specify how broad the program was and only noted one of targeted countries, Iran.

The document, about a specific court case, said the records contained information about the two phone numbers on the call in question, when it occurred and how the call was billed, but no details about call's conversation.

A Justice Department spokesman claimed that the program at the DEA — which is under the Justice Department — has been dead for more than a year.

“The program was suspended in September 2013 and ultimately terminated,” the spokesman said in a statement. “It has not been active nor searchable since September 2013, and all of the information has been deleted.”

“The agency is no longer collecting bulk telephony metadata from U.S. service providers.”

Unlike the NSA’s use of a phone records database designed to track suspected terrorist targets — which is overseen by the secretive Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court — the DEA database appears to have no such judicial oversight. The existence of the phone records database was revealed as part of a case about a man accused of violating sanctions against Iran.

Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) has pressed the DEA and Attorney General Eric Holder to reveal the existence of the program and not reinstate it over the last nine months, and said that the program would not have been disclosed without pressure from Congress and the courts.

"The American people deserve to know that the DEA engaged in the bulk collection of their international phone records in routine criminal investigations without judicial review," he said in a statement on Friday. "The bulk collection was suspended over a year ago and it should never be reinstated.”

"We must continue to make progress in restoring the privacy rights of all Americans while keeping our country safe.”

Jesus Christ the American people are just so fucked... by megalomaniacs and the don't even know.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jan 18 2015 7:31 utc | 38

Posted by: rufus magister | Jan 18, 2015 1:43:23 AM | 34

This here is what Europe tries to stop by sanctions - I think Russia now told them they don't care

There is a logic behind the DNR push. The economy of DNR is not viable outside of the life system of a wider region, port, major infrastructure. People are hungry. The economy needs to work. And Russia needs access to Crimea.

Ukraine, on the other hand, can’t afford to let any of the demarcation lines slip, because any hint of weakness will be picked up elsewhere. Although the grim humanitarian situation in DNR and LNR acts as a strong counter-example to middle class in Kharkiv, Zaporizhe, Odessa etc, the same is probably not true for big business and political lobbies in these cities. The Party formerly known as the Party of Regions polled well in all of these regions — at a time that many of its natural supporters were demoralised.

In December, Gubarev told me they have people working on disrupting the situation in all these cities. I was reminded of that conversation today.

Of course, as with all Donbass posts, the unknown and overarching factor is Russia. But for me, this week shows that Russia is happy to play a plausible deniability game — using local agency — to turn up the heat, until it gets what it wants in terms of sanctions and “respect” from the West.

Basically US/Europe is telling Kyiv they will back them if they are prepared to put their lives on the line, same as Russia backs Donbass people who put their lives on the line.
It is completely immoral.

Posted by: somebody | Jan 18 2015 8:35 utc | 40


To quote yourself : Yep.

Although US/EU are responsible for all of this. Given the stage arrangement there is little else Russia can do than what she is doing.

Will the peoples of all the countries to which the US/EU have 'spread democracy' ... the Afghans, the Iraqis, the Yemenis, the Libyans, the Syrians, the Ukrainians ... the Greeks and the Spaniards ... the French and the Germans ... and finally the Americans, we citizens of the USA ... finally wake up and discover that there is no difference at all between them, between us, in the eyes of the US and its European Unit? We are all just peoples to be exploited and dispossessed, and our lands devastated and laid waste.

Posted by: jfl | Jan 18 2015 9:18 utc | 41

Van der Graaf Generator has come up in a previous open thread. I just listened to A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers. What a time it was, when a band could use a trippy title like that.

I think that Van der Graaf Generator have succeeded the test of time. Yes and the Who sound very seventies, whereas Van der Graaf generator just sound mind blowing. The Who's most famous line is "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss." Compare that with the final line of "A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers": "All things are apart." The Who did political philosophy. Van der Graaf Generator did metaphysics.

Posted by: Demian | Jan 18 2015 9:30 utc | 42

OSCE SMM monitoring report of January 16, 2015

The SMM concluded its third fact-finding patrol to government-controlled Volnovakha (35km south-west of Donetsk), where 12 civilian passengers of a bus had been killed and 17 injured on 13 January (see SMM Spot Report 14 January and SMM Daily Report 14 January). The SMM conducted a comprehensive inspection, focusing on five craters caused by explosions that had occurred during the incident. The investigation included comprehensive crater analysis of two specific blast craters, including the crater located 10 metres from the side of the passenger bus. In the SMM’s assessment all craters examined were caused by rockets fired from a north-north-eastern direction.

Posted by: Oui | Jan 18 2015 10:37 utc | 44

'But here’s the coup de grace for European insolence towards Russia: French President Francois Hollande and his German counterpart Joachim Gauck will be among other European leaders to attend the 70th anniversary of the liberation of the Nazi death camp Auschwitz later this month. The ceremony will be led by Polish President Bronislaw Komorowski.'

so nazi germany and Vichy France can attend Auschwitz but not the liberators: russia!

Posted by: brian | Jan 18 2015 11:38 utc | 45

germany wants Russia to return Crimea to ukraine
thatll happen when WEST Germany returns EAST germany to russia!

Posted by: brian | Jan 18 2015 11:39 utc | 46

so nazi germany and Vichy France can attend Auschwitz but not the liberators: russia!

Russia didn't liberate France — France's liberation was a byproduct and it wouldn't have been for long had Russia been the one to drive Germany out of France. Russia's motto was , "now that we've liberated you, spread your legs so I can receive my reward and you can receive your punishment." The Russians of WWII were brutal savages — raping, murdering orcs ephemerally placated with overripe and unready confiscated flesh.

Posted by: Cold N. Holefield | Jan 18 2015 13:36 utc | 47

The fascist father gives the fascist daughter fits ...

Paris attacks: Jean-Marie Le Pen says French terror attacks were work of Western intelligence

“The shooting at Charlie Hebdo resembles a secret service operation but we have no proof of that,” the newspaper quoted Mr Le Pen as saying. “I don’t think it was organised by the French authorities but they permitted this crime to be committed. That, for the moment, is just a supposition.”

To justify his comments, Mr Le Pen pointed to the fact that one of the Kouachi brothers, who carried out the Charlie Hebdo massacre, left his identity card in a crashed getaway car. He compared this to the “miraculous fact” – beloved by conspiracy theorists – that one of the passports of the 9/11 hijackers was found on the ground in New York after two planes collided with the twin towers of the World Trade Centre in 2001.

Mr Le Pen made two other provocative remarks in the interview. He said that the 1,500,000 who marched “against hatred” in Paris last Sunday were not “Charlies” but “Charlie Chaplins” (ie clowns). He also said that there were 15,000,00[0] to 20,000,000 Muslims in France – three or four times the generally accepted figures of 5,000,000 people who are practising Muslims or have Muslim backgrounds.

Mr Le Pen’s original quoted remarks run directly counter to the official line of his daughter and his party. They have suggested that the attacks on Charlie Hebdo and a Jewish supermarket are the final proof that France faces an “enemy within”, which has been created by immigration and open EU borders.

Posted by: jfl | Jan 18 2015 14:54 utc | 48


"The bulk collection was suspended over a year ago and it should never be reinstated.”


Posted by: okie farmer | Jan 18 2015 15:13 utc | 49

Posted by: jfl | Jan 18, 2015 9:54:33 AM | 47

Jean-Marie le Pen is an old-fashioned fascist, Marine le Pen is a populist. He is probably the only public figure in France who can say such a thing.

Wolfgang Ischinger who organizes the Munich Security Conference admits that the Ukraine war could be finished quickly if the West guaranteed that Ukraine would not join NATO - and that the West is not prepared to do so - in German.

Posted by: somebody | Jan 18 2015 15:19 utc | 50

Msm doing its thing. Don't criticize the almighty Israel, if you do say goodbye to your 30 plus year job......disgusting

Posted by: notlurking | Jan 18 2015 15:23 utc | 51

There is quite a stirring piece at counterpunch, Republic of Torture, Republic of Terror, evoking the horrors of the fascist Korean governments, made up of collaborators with the Japanese, setup in South Korea by the United States after WW II.

The US ingested the NAZI leadership it deemed useful to its own goals of world domination, worked with Britain to install NAZI collaborators in Greece and Italy, setup the Korean governments recalled in the article above, has now installed the neo-NAZIs in Ukraine who are - silently if one listens for news from the mshm - devastating Eastern Ukraine as we sleep, just as the Israelis are 'silently' devastating Gaza, and now the US has recruited French fascism, presently redirecting its racism at the Muslims and not at the Jews.

These are truly terrible times ... and they've been terrible times for far longer than we ... than I, certainly ... had ever imagined. Prior to 9/11.

Maybe the monstrosity, the sheer weight of it all, will finally cause its collapse? I certainly hope so.

Posted by: jfl | Jan 18 2015 15:31 utc | 52

CDH @ 46 --

Soviets seemed to presage the Who -- "won't get fooled again." They wanted a glacis of territories to buffer the oft-invaded western borders. Present activities of DC in the Ukr. demonstrate the utility.

You do know what the Nazis did in the East, right? How do the actions of the Soviets on their drive to Berlin compare with the industrialization of death, etc.? Could you have acted with perfect restraint? I can neither condemn nor condone actions that, to quote a Nietzche title, were Human, All Too Human.

In reality, the Soviets probably spent more to hold their territories than they took from them. Russians used to go to East Berlin, Czechoslovakia, Hungary for consumer goods.

Meanwhile, we use death squads, dictators, and debt to entrap, enslave, and exploit. You need a "good business climate," (i.e., no regs., trade unions, real democracy; ergo cheap wages). Otherwise, no soup for you! Our white hat -- the bleached bones of our victims.

Posted by: rufus magister | Jan 18 2015 15:42 utc | 53


' ... the Ukraine war could be finished quickly... the West is not prepared to do so ...'

That's certainly the truth. Maybe the people being crushed under the greed and malice of the West, the Ukrainians, will stand aside from the war - which is, after all, killing them and destroying their country, to the great amusement and benefit of the West - step aside and let the West's monstrous project crash and shatter.

The only people in Ukraine who support this monstrous civil war are the West's stooges.

Posted by: jfl | Jan 18 2015 15:43 utc | 54

somebody at 39 --

I think most observers here agree, Russia has far too many chips on the table not have Novorossiya's back. While some might like to see a some more aggressive cards played, they seem to understand the situation they find themselves in.

The "plausible deniability game" (a phrase really launched into the public discourse by Reagan Admin. -- we wanted it for our illegal contra war against the Sandinistas) is a key part of diplomacy. I know that you know what I'm up to, but with enough cut outs and misdirection, all parties can official deny it and keep rolling along.

Posted by: rufus magister | Jan 18 2015 15:49 utc | 55

You do know what the Nazis did in the East, right?

Of course I do. It was horrible, atrocious and unforgivable, but that in no way excuses what the Russians did. I'm sympathetic to the ordinary people of all of Russia and Europe caught in the crossfire of a conflict in which the majority of them wanted no part and had no say. The people of France, the majority of them at least, were caught between a rock and a hard place, not to mention the ordinary people of Germany at the mercy of the Russian savage orcs when they settled in for their year-long drunken rape fest subsequent to defeating the German military.

Posted by: Cold N. Holefield | Jan 18 2015 15:55 utc | 56

CDH at 55

Let me put it more simply -- Payback is a bitch, ain't it.

Posted by: rufus magister | Jan 18 2015 15:56 utc | 57

I saw this the other day, reluctant to post, but it shows what the West is trying to perpetuate with its sanctions and arms for the Banderaists.

An elderly man ate his dog, a starving grandma eaten by rats - humanitarian catastrophe in Novorossia. Normally fully read its I recommend, but I cannot bring myself to do that this Sunday morn.

Je suis Pervomaisk.

Posted by: rufus magister | Jan 18 2015 16:04 utc | 58

I hope you and the whole family are fine and doing well, "b'".
Best regards,

Posted by: M. Tomazy | Jan 18 2015 16:29 utc | 59

ps to 56 --

What's up doc? -- they're not orcs, they're Gremlins, from the Kremlin.

Posted by: rufus magister | Jan 18 2015 17:46 utc | 60

Sources: 5 members of Hezbollah including son of Imad Mughniyeh killed in Israeli strike in Syria

Posted by: Anonymous | Jan 18 2015 17:51 utc | 61

CNN - US losing Cold War with Russia?

Posted by: somebody | Jan 18 2015 18:05 utc | 62

somebody 61

Well that would explain why Ukraine try to "win" again with the new attacks.
I thought west would understand by this time not to support any more new attacks/wars now in ukraine, sheer idiots.

Posted by: Anonymous | Jan 18 2015 18:55 utc | 63


Another revenge strike by Bibi in Syria killing 5, an Hezbollah commander and Iranian fighters near Qunatra on Golan Heights. First reports …

Jihad Mughniyeh, Hezbollah's commander of the Syrian Golan sector and the son of Lebanese terrorist Imad Mughniyah, was killed. Four other Hezbollah fighters were killed in the helicopter strike, among them field commander Mohammad Issa, who goes by the nom de guerre "Abu Issa," and the Iranian Commander in the Syrian Golan Heights Abu Ali al-Tabtabai, also known as "Abu Ali Reza," according to Al Arabiya, as well as other Lebanese media.

As predicted recently, excellent cooperation for terror organization Jablat al-Nusra in the area of the deadly attack by the IAF.

Posted by: Oui | Jan 18 2015 19:33 utc | 64


When I write, the Russians, I refer to the present Ruling Class led by Putin although I do understand there are other power centers inside Russia.

From the very beginning of this conflict Putin has called for the forces of the resistance in Donbas to disarm and submit to Kiev with certain conditions. The resistance leaders ignored Russia's demands and with help from other Russians were able to defend against and then break the Ukie army who were then saved by Putin's cease fire.

I understand Russia's position on the future of the People's Republics but I don't have to agree with them.

Posted by: Wayoutwest | Jan 18 2015 19:38 utc | 65

Posted by: Cold N. Holefield | Jan 18, 2015 8:36:49 AM | 47

russia liberated Aushwitz..thats the issue

Posted by: brian | Jan 18 2015 21:23 utc | 66

'The Russians of WWII were brutal savages — raping, murdering orcs ephemerally placated with overripe and unready confiscated flesh.

Posted by: Cold N. Holefield | Jan 18, 2015 8:36:49 AM | 47

what? russians didnt bmob Dresden or Hiroshima..they were however the ones who put an end to nazism: NOT the US or UK, nd france Vichy regmie colaborated with mazi germany

as for your anti russian tirade...
The Americans of WWII were brutal savages — raping, murdering orcs ephemerally placated with overripe and unready confiscated flesh

Posted by: brian | Jan 18 2015 21:26 utc | 67

Posted by: somebody | Jan 18, 2015 10:19:21 AM | 50

its a sad day then when old fashioned fascists tell it like it is, and the modern 'democracts' spin lies in the service of empire

Posted by: brian | Jan 18 2015 21:27 utc | 68

'I had hoped the resistance forces could have been able to retake the whole country with the help of western Ukraine supporters but the Russians seem to have decided that is not in Russia's interest.

Posted by: Wayoutwest | Jan 18, 2015 12:55:18 AM | 31

whut? Novorossiya has shown no interest in taking over the might be agood idea if they took the fight to Kiev, so as to give Kiev taste of its own brutal medicine...and see if NATOs rottne leadership then invades to aid Kiev

Posted by: brian | Jan 18 2015 21:29 utc | 69

The two videos are must view: Dr Moussa Ibrahim former spokesman for the Libyan Jamahirya is back (tho not in libya) and telling it like it is. the 2nd video is a Q and A where is answeres questions, one supports Ellen Browns april 2011 as to role of Currency in FUKUSA waging war on Libya; another make plain US embassies tell supposedly sovereign states who can or can nor stay in them (Ibrahim being on the run from Interpol)

Dr Moussa Ibrahim's first public address since #NATO's War on #Libya in 2011 … & … @AllForLibya

Posted by: brian | Jan 18 2015 22:43 utc | 70


It is true that the People's Republics initially only wanted security under annexation to the Russian Federation but Putin made it clear that that would never happen. Faced with that reality I think they realize they will never be secure under the Fascists from Kiev and that only leaves one option that includes freedom and security, destroy the coup regime and the minority Fascist militias.

Sadly they are caught between Russian and Western realpolitik that means they don't have many real options.

Posted by: Wayoutwest | Jan 18 2015 23:05 utc | 71

@Demian, 42:
“Van der Graaf Generator has come up in a previous open thread... I think that Van der Graaf Generator have succeeded the test of time.”

‘Twas I who mentioned them, specifically their album Godbluff. While its four songs aren’t overtly sequential, I find numerous threads within them that are best appreciated by listening to them as a four-movement whole. As with any VDGG, have the lyrics at hand for full effect:

Undercover Man

Scorched Earth


The Sleepwalkers

Yes, metaphysical indeed… with mind-twisting chord changes possessing fans to leave venues as though hit by a hurricane…

While Godbluff is far and away my favorite of their albums, I’m also quite partial to Still Life and The Quiet Zone/The Pleasure Dome. And I just finished listening to A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers; thank you for that link—as rufus magister advised in the same discussion, it is good to listen to old favorites with new ears…

Posted by: Vintage Red | Jan 19 2015 0:17 utc | 72

Brian at 69 --

Funny you should say that. From, Dmitry Lekukh says Take Kiev, end war.

And not the first either. I might have noted this at the time. From The Nation via Russia Insider, a profile of Mozgovoy around Christmas.

During the first conversation , Mozgovoi offered that the conflict could be solved if the volunteer fighters on both sides would join together to “clean out the parliament and the government” in Kiev, a suggestion that seemed to resonate with the pro-Ukrainians present, several of whom spoke out against the government of oligarch president Petro Poroshenko."

I believe you would find several other public, polit. and milit. figures in Novorussiya and the Federation who long have urged the Peoples Republics "On to Kiev." It is seen as the only sure way to fully cleanse the western Ukraine from fascism, and it may well be salutary. I'm inclined to agree with WOW at 71, Novorossiyan provinces may not be what they necessarily want, but may be what the Kremlin gets, due to actions en scene.

Posted by: rufus magister | Jan 19 2015 0:20 utc | 73

The Western Ukrainians seem to be going for broke. If they are defeated again by the Novorussyans it is hard to imagine them being given a a third chance by the US/EU (Germany).

So then will it be a far-right coup in Ukraine against Poroshenko? Followed by a variation on Joaquin Flores' Pravy Sektor Coup as ISIS Scenario: NATO to Feign a ‘Unilateral’ Alliance With Russia?

I guess I'm assuming that the latest attempt at total war against the Ukrainian East will fail, aren't I? Certainly I hope it does.

Posted by: jfl | Jan 19 2015 0:50 utc | 74

To VR at 72 --

You and Demian are moving to fast for me to keep up. But VDG and Hammill seem fairly intriguing, tx.

I thought it was you who had posted the VDG recommendation. When D. at 42 posted his rave review, I recalled his discriminating taste and figured I'd better check it out.

Nice piece, sounded somewhat like Zappa at roughly the same time, working the jazz/rock/experimental/classical hybrid. And I'm inclined to like most things with bass pedals.

I did a little research, and I knew the name Peter Hammill, through his work with Peter Gabriel. "Loops and Reels" in his discography caught my eye -- it refers to the early days of tape manipulation. I didn't like his vocals, but some of the music on that record was quite intriguing, could be a buy. Some of van der Graff Generator's "After the Flood" sounded interesting, too. Cover has has a generator on it as well.

Posted by: rufus magister | Jan 19 2015 0:51 utc | 75

Canadian Minister Scrambles to Safety after Palestinian Egging

Alluding to the ICC, Baird said he asked Palestinian Foreign Minister Riad Malki to “strongly reconsider the consequences of moving forward with any action,” referring to accusations made against Israel for war crimes.

Following his meeting with Maliki, Baird set off for Tel-Aviv where he will meet with Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman. Lieberman announced Sunday that Israel will lobby foreign powers to stop funding the ICC.

Was Canada always like this beneath their facade of 'the peaceful kingdom'? I suppose they are like the US, the UK, France ... always a ready supply of fascists, ready to grab power.

And they've certainly grabbed it now.

Posted by: jfl | Jan 19 2015 0:58 utc | 76

Charlie Hebdo: “Je Suis White People"

After NATO murdered Muammar Gaddafi in 2011, French president Nicolas Sarkozy traveled to Libya to personally gloat over the country he helped to destroy. He was joined by UK prime minister David Cameron, who was also among the killers-in-chief who arrived in Paris looking solemn. France and the UK are part of the NATO effort to destroy Syria and turn it into a chaotic ruin as they have done to Libya.

The corporate media determines who is and who isn’t a worthy victim and people with dark skin rarely make the cut. The thousands of Palestinians killed by Israel in Gaza included members of the press. Seventeen journalists were killed in Gaza in 2014 alone, yet Israeli president Netanyahu was allowed to join the “unity march” in Paris as if he too were an innocent.

There is enough horror in the world to cause outrage but the level of outrage seems to depend on who is being treated horribly and who is carrying out the atrocity. The worst acts of terror are committed by heads of state who don’t kill seventeen people as these attackers did in Paris. They kill in the thousands yet are still treated with respect.

It doesn’t say much for the state of human advancement that killings committed by individuals still create so much more concern than those committed by governments. They get away with mass murder because the same corporate media which saturated coverage of Charlie Hebdo say little or nothing about Gaza or Libya or Somalia or Syria or Iraq or Haiti. Instead of pointing out that Barack Obama is a killer too, the pundits criticize him for not being among the sanctimonious liars who gathered in Paris. The group photo should have been a perp walk to the Hague instead of a photo opportunity for the seriously blood thirsty.

Murder is wrong when committed by individual gunmen with grudges and it is still wrong when it comes from a drone strike. A unity march should denounce human rights abuses, of which warfare is the worst. The next time 1 million gather to denounce terror, the anger should be directed at those people who carry it out the most.

And they're carrying it out most right now ... in Palestine, Syria, Iraq, and Ukraine.

Je suis Palestine. Je suis Donbas.

Posted by: jfl | Jan 19 2015 1:03 utc | 77

@rufus magister #75

ome of the music on that record was quite intriguing,
I especially like the fog horns bit. When I was in high school, this track was considered to be the ultimate head music. Still gathering up my energies to listen to Godbluff.

@ #73:

Nice Web site you've found there. Very slick. And with a nicely provocative name. It looks like the Russkies are intensifying their propaganda assault on the West. Good for them. Take this article: Geopolitical consequences of the terrorist acts in Paris.

The coexistence of White Europeans and immigrants, primarily Muslims, has long been a matter of principle in Europe, but the tragedy of January 7 has put pointblank the following question: “Who's the boss?” The problem is exacerbated by the fact that Europeans are divided into two camps (symbolically, but still): pious traditionalists and cynical liberals. Their views on the future of Europe are poles apart.
This could have been written by the Kremlin. The idea that Russia stands for tradition, which liberalism has more or less destroyed in the West, is a mainstay of the rhetoric of Putin and Lavrov.

This article is very in your face pushing the Russian line. It is the first time I have seen such an article translated into English. So it looks like the Russians are taking the breaks off. War of Civilizations, v. 2. A thing to keep in mind here is that, unlike Western Europe, Russia does not have a Muslim problem, since Russia is the multicultural society par excellence.

Posted by: Demian | Jan 19 2015 2:58 utc | 78

Some articles of interest:

Mobilization or Coffinization? Opposition to military draft grows in Ukraine

Ukrainian hackers say they have proof US pays Kiev military off the books

And last but perhaps most thought provoking, touching on possibilities raised in many comments above:

Beyond Novorossiya: what the future holds

Will there be a Nazi coup, or a Night of the Long Knives? Will the US force Russia into open intervention, either through sacrificing Ukraine through military action or simply degenerating into anarcho-warlordism? Or will the underground resistance in Ukraine rise up against the junta? And where do the very ideas of Ukraine and Novorossiya fit into the bigger and longer view?

Posted by: Vintage Red | Jan 19 2015 3:09 utc | 79

D at 78 -- I've been posting bits from Russia Insider and for a few weeks. Saker helped debut Insider. is graphically very interesting, isn't it? They often have some pretty juicy stuff. As you say, the Federation is picking up it's PR efforts; gotta keep up with Madison Ave,

While it certainly subjugated Moslem areas like Kazan and later Crimea, the Empire never went in for forced conversions. It did wind up pursuing Russification, but I don't think has hard as some other imperial powers.

Soviets of course highlighted their nationalities policies, and their mix of cultural toleration combined with de-politicization. Nationality has now of course be re-politicized throughout not only Europe, but globally, since the collapse of the Union.

Posted by: rufus magister | Jan 19 2015 3:34 utc | 80

@Uncle $cam, 39:

Thank you for posting the links to the COINTELPRO shill/troll techniques and how to recognize them. I’ve seen descriptions of these before but these (especially the stopsprayingus site) are much more comprehensive.

Posted by: Vintage Red | Jan 19 2015 4:18 utc | 81

Russian Spring


Summary of situation in Gorlovka by military journalist Mikhail Andronik:

The strikes were kept up through entire day upon all districts of Gorlovka. Data about killed or wounded are not known at the moment, but the count is dozens merely within civilian population.

Today many locals lost homes; infrastructure is damaged – practically no electricity, water, heating.

Per information from General Staff, today the Ukrainian army attempted to close a ring around Gorlovka. The attack directed from settlement Novoselovka (?). It was, however, repelled.

The forces of Novorossia struck at a significant number of opponent’ hardware in area of Krasniy Partizan (Red Guerrilla) (south of Gorlovka) by salvo rocked systems. The count of destruction was in order of 90-ties units of armored hardware. Most of opponent’s artillery was liquidated, though, the Ukrainian forces pull more reserves.

Russian Spring


Sources from diplomatic missions in Kiyev tell that Ukrainian officers from Ministry of Defense in private conversations with the diplomats acknowledge receiving instructions of daily strikes at residential quarters of Donets, Lugansk and suburbs as well as at infrastructure targets (intersections, electric power lines, power substations, etc.) directly from Administration of President of Ukraine, namely president’s advisor Y. S. Biryukov, who is in position of aide of Ministry of Defense of Ukraine.

As high-ranking Ukrainian military officials view it, these strikes intend to create in Donbass “unbearable living conditions, much worse than anywhere in Ukraine that other regions would refrain from rebellion against the Kiyev regimen”.

In addition, the foreign diplomats say, the Kiyev authorities hope that the severe living conditions would enable Novorossian population’s critical attitude toward Russia, which “can not provide so needed necessities”.

Russian Spring


Chief of Artillery Staff of 2nd brigade of the Lugansk Republic army gave a summary from the front line:

What happens is an attempt of offensive by the Ukrainian forces from the site of Krimskoye (Bakhmutka area).

The active phase started 1.5 hour ago as intensive artillery strikes. The Ukrainian hardware is advancing from the site of Krimskoye.

Posted by: Fete | Jan 19 2015 5:05 utc | 82

- It seems the Ukraine is preparing for a major offensive in the eastern part of that same Ukraine. But the government is running out of money. If/when that happens then expect to see (more) financial damage/turmoil in the (financial) markets.

- In the past week the peg between the Swiss franc (CHF) and the Euro was cut. And that's going to hurt people in Eastern Europe as well. E.g. between 2000 & 2008 polish households took out mortgages denominated in Euros, CHF & Yen because interest rates in those currencies were (much) lower. But that backfired from 2008/2009 onwards. Because these three currencies went up against the polish zloty (PLN). E.g., before 2008 the CHF/PLN rate was at ~ 2, currently that rate is at ~ 5. So, those polish households see their monthly interest payments go up as a result of a rising e.g. CHF/PLN. Ouch.

- The US is also heading for more (fiancial) trouble. With oil at ~ $ 100 (in the 1st part of 2014) investors & banks poured billions into bonds/loans of shale oil producers.
Then oil dropped to the current low levels (~ $ 40 to $50). Rumours say that oil was knocked down to punish Russia. But here in the US domestic producers are getting hit as well. With oil prices falling those producers have to stomach lower sales revenues. While at the same time those producers now have the banks breathing down their necks. Now the producers have to pay higher interest rates on those bonds/loans. These higher rates are part of loan agreements and kicked in as the oilprice dropped down to these low levels. So, in stead of paying say 4% that same company has to pay say 6 or 7%. Ouch.

In early 2007 about 18 to 20% of all US mortgages were considered to be "Subprime" (a pretty name for "Junk" Mortgages. Now about 17% of all "High Yield"/"Junk" bonds are tied to the shale oil production. Ouch.

Posted by: Willy2 | Jan 19 2015 8:20 utc | 83

From Fete's Russian Spring update of 01.18 ...

The strikes were kept up through entire day upon all districts of Gorlovka. Data about killed or wounded are not known at the moment, but the count is dozens merely within civilian population.

Today many locals lost homes; infrastructure is damaged – practically no electricity, water, heating. ...

As high-ranking Ukrainian military officials view it, these strikes intend to create in Donbass “unbearable living conditions, much worse than anywhere in Ukraine that other regions would refrain from rebellion against the Kiyev regimen”. ...

Isn't this exactly the Israeli M.O. in Gaza, reimplemented in Ukraine?

Sources from diplomatic missions in Kiyev tell that Ukrainian officers from Ministry of Defense in private conversations with the diplomats acknowledge receiving instructions of daily strikes at residential quarters of Donets, Lugansk and suburbs as well as at infrastructure targets (intersections, electric power lines, power substations, etc.) directly from Administration of President of Ukraine, namely president’s advisor Y. S. Biryukov, who is in position of aide of Ministry of Defense of Ukraine.

Could those 'diplomats' be US/Israeli? and could the stream of instructions be going the other way? Certainly the Israelis have open access to all the information to all of the NSA's information including satellite and gps data and cell phone locations, as of course do the US alphabet agencies themselves.

The US and Israel are playing the part of an evil dynamic duo, the perverse Batman and Robin of civilian terror world-wide.

Je suis Vania. Je suis Vania's 5-year old brother. Je suis Shakhtersk.

Posted by: jfl | Jan 19 2015 8:22 utc | 84

In addition to post #83: This means that companies are forced to cut back on new drilling & reduce the amount of employees. Some people already call the the disaster in the shale oil/energy bond market the "Subprime Disaster 2.0".

Yes, the price of gasoline goes down but it doesn't do any good when your job is being axed as a result of lay-offs in the (shale) oil industry. On top of that, state governments see their sale taxes revenues shrink (think falling gasoline prices) and are trying to compensate that with higher taxation. No problem because the cosnumer befits from those lower gas prices, right ?

Posted by: Willy2 | Jan 19 2015 8:34 utc | 85

Another thought came to mind: Is it coincidence that Netanyaho ratches up tensions in the Middle East and that the Ukraine is preparing for a new offensive ? There could be plans to coordinate (military) actions in both regions, to start a new war/military offensive actions in both regions at the same time. It could mean that Russia is forced to focus attention on the eastern Ukraine and be forced to not support Assad (supply him with weapons).

Is such a "Conspiricy theory" "(too) far fetched" ? Perhaps, but I wouldn't be surprised to see it happen this way.

Posted by: Willy2 | Jan 19 2015 8:46 utc | 86

Finally the western media starts reporting about the politicians in die Ukraine: The New Ukraine: Rogues, Sexpots, Warlords, Lunatics and Oligarchs | New York Observer

Obama won't be happy what those Ukrainians say about him.

Posted by: Fran | Jan 19 2015 10:28 utc | 87

Posted by: Willy2 | Jan 19, 2015 3:46:14 AM | 86
Doubt it, there is something called multitasking. Lots of stuff goes on whilst we aren't looking and interdependence is uncontrolable. Like Iranian Russian military cooperation

Here a very knowledgable pianist - Lisitska - talk about Ukraine - in German.

Interesting part - Ukrainian private administrative school MAUP - funded by Arab States.

Notable alumni

Volodymyr Groysman, mayor of Vinnytsia, Vice Prime Minister of Ukraine
David Duke, American politician, political writer, former Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan and former candidate for governor of the state of Louisiana

Founded in 1989 as a non-state establishment, the MAUP consists of a preparatory department, a lyceum, college, institutes and postgraduate school and has over 50,000 students in many branches throughout the country. Since 1991, MAUP has been publishing the Personnel magazine and the Personnel Plus newspaper. In 2008, the U.S. State Department published its "Contemporary Global Anti-Semitism: A Report Provided to the United States Congress"[1] and singled out MAUP when it stated the Ukrainian-based organization "is one of the most persistent anti-Semitic institutions in Eastern Europe."


The MAUP is also resposible for the univeristy education for the largets amount of MPs in the current Ukriane Parliament when compared to all other Ukrianian educational institutions.

It ahs been reported that out of all the Neo-Nazi and Anti-Semetic literture published in the last 10 years in Ukraine that MUAP has been responsible for publishing around 90%.

The founder of MUAP seems to have tried to found Ukrainian Nationalism on an anti-Polish peasant uprising.

MAUP has connections with Damascus and Teheran.

Maup's founder has very warm relations with Syria still in 2011

The world is a complex place.

Posted by: somebody | Jan 19 2015 10:50 utc | 88


Point taken. But the Israelis seem to cooperate quite well with the Saudi Wahabistas and the ISIS, don't they.

Why let a little thing like 'anti-Semitism' affect realpolitik?

'Anti-Semitism's' real use lies in beating your 'allies' (vassals) to keep them in line anywey. The world is a devilishly complex place.

Posted by: jfl | Jan 19 2015 11:07 utc | 89

@88: Interesting links. It's clear the Ukraine will sink into more & more chaos. "Mission accomplished", right ?

Posted by: Willy2 | Jan 19 2015 13:37 utc | 90

Very informative article on Manipulation in Paris

Since the colonial wars in Indo China and in Africa, the ruling classes in France depended on racism and jingoism to gain the support of French workers. In North Africa and in West Asia, France supported Jihadists while proclaiming it was at the forefront of the war against terror. This manipulation was on full display in Mali and North Africa where France engineered the support of Tuareg rebels only to launch a military intervention exercise to fight the same forces that it had mobilized and supported. Similarly, France and the Patraeus branch of the US intelligence took over Libya and recruited Jihadists to fight in Syria while telling the world that France was opposed to terrorism. Two years later in March 2013, the Socialist government of Hollande supported Seleka rebels in the Central African Republic (CAR) to oust President Francois Bozize because France accused Bozize of granting favorable contracts to China and South Africa. Less than a year later, France was mobilizing the Security Council of the United Nations to fight the same Seleka rebels. These were the same elements that France had assisted in seizing state power in 2013.

It is this history of duplicity that renders the French version of the events of Paris of January 7 incredible. The authorities in France would have the world believe that after keeping the two brothers (Cherif and Said Kouachi) for over 10 years, that the state ended the surveillance of the brothers six months before the two brothers allegedly attacked the Charlie Hebdo offices. Even more bizarre has been the report that Commissioner Helric Fredou killed himself on the night of the attack on Charlie Hebdo offices. Helric Fredou had been the deputy director of the regional police of Limoges since 2012 and would have been one of the senior police and intelligence officers who could have testified about the relationship between French security agencies and the two brothers. The alleged killers, Cherif and Said Kouachi who were shot dead by police on January 9, spent their high school years in the Limoges region. Fredou had dispatched a team of police officials under his jurisdiction to interview the relatives of one of the Charlie Hebdo victims and had been debriefed about the interviews. It has been reported in varying media that immediately after the police debriefing, he began preparing his report, staying late at police headquarters to write it up. He was later found shot dead at 1 a.m. on Thursday morning, and the report he was writing was never found.

Horace Campbell provides the background to understanding the immediate motives of the French 'elite' and their role in this vicious propaganda smokescreen.

Posted by: jfl | Jan 19 2015 13:57 utc | 91


This is the correct counterpunch link - thanks!

Posted by: somebody | Jan 19 2015 14:18 utc | 92


"As author James Risen describes in his new book, Pay Any Price, a new caste of “oligarchs” has emerged from the 9/11 “war on terror” — and the various regional wars that it has unpacked — to amass vast fortunes. He writes: “There is an entire class of wealthy company owners, corporate executives, and investors who have gotten rich by enabling the American government to turn to the dark side. … The new quiet oligarchs just keep making money. They are the beneficiaries of one of the largest transfers of wealth from public to private hands in American history.” [p. 56]

And the consolidation of this wealth has further cemented the political/media influence of the “anti-realists,” as the new “oligarchs” kick back portions of their taxpayer largesse into think tanks, political campaigns and media outlets. The neocons and their liberal interventionist pals now fully dominate the U.S. opinion centers, from the right-wing media to the editorial pages (and the foreign desks) of many establishment publications, including the Washington Post and the New York Times".

The neocons making lots of money off the "War on Terror".


Posted by: Willy2 | Jan 19 2015 14:21 utc | 93

Interesting & thoughtful article regarding the shooting at Charlie Hebdo:

Posted by: Willy2 | Jan 19 2015 14:25 utc | 94


Sorry, thanks for cleaning up after me.
I will click every link I post before I post ...
I will click every link I post before I post ...
I will click every link I post before I post ...

Posted by: jfl | Jan 19 2015 19:36 utc | 95

From a Google 'translation' of Colonel Cassad posted by Saker ...

In Kiev, in the coming days waiting for an inspection of the "black gentleman" led by the commander of US forces in Europe Hodges. Hodges apparently must be in place to assess the situation and give the White House and the Joint Chiefs of Staff recommendations on military aid (in the Senate just recently stepped up demands to begin deliveries of "lethal" weapons) and give obektivku on the actual state of affairs at the front.

Sam Hodges is uporotyh "hawk" in the spirit of John McCain, so it is not hard to imagine that he would recommend.

While Russia's hands tied Ukraine, countries around the perimeter of Russia have two or three years to prepare for a similar scenario (s) Hodges

Well, you understand, will set fire to the entire perimeter.

With the Democrat neo-cons out of power the Republican neo-cons plan to burn the world ... using other peoples' bodies. Obama, of course, is just following orders.

Posted by: jfl | Jan 19 2015 19:59 utc | 96

Ukrainian Hospital Hit Amid Escalating Fighting

A hospital was hit Monday in the eastern region of Donetsk, leaving six wounded, amid fierce combats between the Ukrainian military and rebel forces.

The clashes have continued after Kiev launched a full-scale offensive in the eastern, largely rebel-controlled region of the country, in order to recover lost territory, including the Donetsk international airport.

I wonder when we Americans will realize that there's been a military doup in our 'good ole' US of A?

Posted by: jfl | Jan 19 2015 20:04 utc | 97

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Posted by: Willy2 | Jan 19 2015 20:20 utc | 98

DPR Ministry of Defense: In the last two days AFU lost 700 soldiers and 37 pieces of equipment.

“Due to the stepped up shelling of DPR civilian areas, we have seen more casualties among civilians. Medical facilities received 44 people, including four children (one in intensive care). Nine civilians were killed, including one child (girl, 4 years of age)”—this was the announcement made on January 19 by Eduard Basurin, a deputy corps commander of the Ministry of Defense of the DPR.

“Yesterday’s shelling caused destruction of 81 buildings. “We have noted 56 cases of shelling of civilian areas, and this includes only weapons between 82mm and 150mm. Fire from smaller-caliber weapons was not counted. All parts of Donetsk came under fire, except for the Proletarskiy region. 81 buildings were destroyed. There are interruptions in the work of the electrical and heating networks,” said Basurin.

He added that Ukrainian forces violated the ceasefire by bombardments and attempts at breakthrough. “Combat operations are being conducted along the entire front line, starting with the south (the Sea of Azov) and ending in the north. The enemy is using heavy weapons everywhere. In some places he is attempting to break the front line. The ceasefire announced by the Ukrainian side that was to go into effect at midnight of January 19 is not being implemented. We have noted 10 violations of ceasefire agreements between midnight and 10am,” said Basurin.

Je suis Donbas. Obama sees himself as Stepan Bandera, apparently. His winter war is most effective against the civilians he's rendering homeless. Those he does not kill outright. He especially likes to kill children. Women and children, by drone. The Nobel Peace Prize Laureate.

Posted by: jfl | Jan 19 2015 20:22 utc | 99

Help me out. Assuming that ISIS is selling oil as their source of funding, how can the distribution logistics be in place if they are subjected to heavy bombardment from US sorties on a daily basis??

Posted by: georgeg | Jan 19 2015 20:26 utc | 100

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