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January 15, 2015
Open Thread 2015-03

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Cold N. Holefield 92
*”it’s best to relent to the devil you know rather than the one you don’t.*
so after all is said, u’r a fucking apologist for the evil empire. !

Posted by: denk | Jan 17 2015 16:09 utc | 101

Russia offers to lift import ban for agricultural goods for Greeze should it leave the European Union

Insanity? Perhaps, but just 48 hours ago crazier things happened, when a central bank which until Monday telegraphed the rock solid determination of its monetary policy not to mention the Swiss Franc’s floor, shocked the world when it became the first western bank to admit defeat in currency wars which have cost it a balance sheet the size of its GDP.

Posted by: somebody | Jan 17 2015 16:20 utc | 102

to CDH at 92 —
Clausewitz — “War is the continuation of politics by other means.” Sanctions and financial manipulation are the continuation of war by other means. We clearly have a general policy of war-by-proxy, since at least Nicaragua. And aren’t shy of stupid wars based on magical thinking.
All solutions to the problem of imperialist oligarchy (the system served by gangsterism) have risks, not all devils are equal.
Given looming problems like global warming and mass extinction, one wonders how much time we have to arrive at unanimity on a painless, risk-free solution. The devil always takes the hindmost, no?
In your spirit of universal skepticism, here’s a dance cut for which I have a weakness — Frankie Goes to Hollywood, Two Tribes. I try to score both sides, but it’s hard to keep up sometimes.

Posted by: rufus magister | Jan 17 2015 16:22 utc | 103

Cold N. Holefield 92
“There is no war against Russia and China”
There is/was no war against Iraq
There is/was no wars or regime change ops against Iran.
There is/was no illegal war against Yemen.
There is/was no illegal war against Pakistan
There is/was no illegal war against Libya
There are/were no worldwide American death squads operating in more than 50 countries
There is/was no torture in secret American prisons
There are/were no well funded regime change operations against Russia, China, Cuba and Venezuela
The is/was no massive and growing income gap between the 1 percent and the rest of us
The 1 percent are definitely not above the law
Its all the fantasy of America hating dildo wielding Commie fags
And don’t forget the secret Iraqi WMDs {{:-)}

Posted by: diogenes | Jan 17 2015 16:38 utc | 104

and further to 99
I’m sure everyone has seen that the Dalai Lama self-identifies as a Marxist “We must have a human approach. As far as socioeconomic theory, I am Marxist….” I welcome Comrade Lhamo Dondrub to our ranks, though I fear he may need to join a good study group on historical materialism.

Posted by: rufus magister | Jan 17 2015 16:40 utc | 105

Diogenes at 100
Tx for shedding a little light on the subject! Death Squads R US!

Posted by: rufus magister | Jan 17 2015 16:47 utc | 106

@Demian @Wayoutwest @notlurking #48
RT linked Max Keiser report – Ukraine Lurches to Full Scale War as Russia Drastically Reduces Gas Supply to EU – republished a GoldCore report, how reliable is this source?? Ireland’s first gold broker… lots of links to CT sites.
Russia Drastically Reduces Gas Supply – EU Warns “Completely Unacceptable”
Yesterday, Ukraine confirmed that Russia had completely cut off their supply. Croatia said it was temporarily reducing supplies to industrial customers while Bulgaria said it had enough gas only ‘for a few days’ and was already in a ‘crisis situation’.
Original source of the quoted parts from an article in January 2009 via NBC/AP!
Six countries reported a complete shutoff of Russian gas shipped via Ukraine
Bulgaria, Greece, Macedonia, Romania, Croatia and Turkey all reported a halt in gas shipments from Russia through Ukraine. Croatia said it was temporarily reducing supplies to industrial customers and Bulgaria said it had enough gas for only “for a few days.”
The European Union in Brussels called the sudden cutoff to some of its member countries “completely unacceptable.”

This false information got traction because of Russia’s decision in December 2014 to stop investment into the South Stream, a transport route through Bulgaria blocked by the EU in Brussels.

Posted by: Oui | Jan 17 2015 17:15 utc | 107

@92
ALL govts are ongoing criminal enterprises. Politics is about money in every county in the world. What politicians purport is disinformation.

Posted by: okie farmer | Jan 17 2015 17:42 utc | 108

O@103
I’m not sure if this was intentional misinformation or just sloppy journalism but the meme seems to have collapsed.

Posted by: Wayoutwest | Jan 17 2015 18:21 utc | 109

ha ha 😉 neretva43 @ 20, I thought Germany for sure. Some of the gossip about Merkel (here in CH) is that part of her pro-US stance re. Russia/Ukraine (showing her true colors imho but ppl seek specific reasons) is because she wants to be next Sec.Gen of the UN (2017), it is the Europeans turn, and she cannot attain this position without support from the US. Sounded rubbish to me – how does a major pol leader of an important country ever get to that seat? for now! but things change..-, yet Germany could do with a dose of Islamic terrorism (errr … from a certain pov.)
Demian @ 29, WoW @ 37, for other readers some background : what Russia, aka one spokesperson, announced (afaik) was that in the future the transit point for gas to Europe would be ‘from Turkey – at the border with Greece’, and that it will now be up to the Europeans to use/organize/build further transit.
Because of the quarrels between the EU and Russia over ‘who builds/owns/controls/gets the revenues/etc.’ from the pipelines , which the EU always insists should be split off from the ‘goods’ themselves (like transport co. is paid to deliver fridges) for all the obvious reasons. – See the quarrels re. Bulgaria. Also Ukr. having to sell off its the transport part of Naftogaz. – 49% though I have no idea if there were any takers or what took place subsequently.
Russia cannot put up with that so it will sell but delivery beyond a certain point will be up to whomever wants to buy *and pay*/organize. Nothing immediate about it however as I understood it?
Southstream is dead.

Posted by: Noirette | Jan 17 2015 18:33 utc | 110

A leader of a powerful nation like Germany will not be chosen. It’s always been a candidate from a smaller nation: Ban Ki-moon, Korea ; Kofi Annan, Ghana ; Boutros Boutros-Ghali, Egypt ; Javier Perez de Cuellar, Peru ; Kurt Waldheim, Austria ; U Thant, Myanmar (formerly known as Burma) ; Dag Hammarskjöld, Sweden ; Trygve Lie, Norway.
Candidates for UN Secretary General when Ban Ki-moon was chosen

Candidates Selection Proces for the next UNSG
A taskforce of the United Nations Association of the United States (UNA-USA) recently released “Selecting the Next Secretary General,” offering several recommendations on improving the selection process, identifying desired skills and qualifications of candidates and noting the issues and priorities the next UNSG will face. The taskforce included representatives from several UN members states, former and current UN officials, and several private sector, academic and civil society experts.

This doesn’t answer the question why Merkel changed her tune on Putin’s Russia on the issue of Ukraine. A lot of arm wrestling …

Posted by: Oui | Jan 17 2015 18:52 utc | 111

@102
Someone ‘named’ GoraDiva posted a link to …
Richard Wolff on the Greek Crisis, Austerity and a Post-Capitalist Future

… you are either going to knuckle under in the form of austerity, or go through basically another kind of austerity, which is what you would face if you quit the euro, if you went back to the drachma [Greece’s currency before the euro], if you went back to an independent economy; you’d have to devalue something awful; all your input costs will go crazy; you’d have domestic trouble of the sort you haven’t seen in Greece since the Second World War. …
But that’s all premised on [leaving the] economy in the basic structure; all the key decisions are made by the major shareholders and boards of directors of leading Greek enterprises. They have long ago figured out how to keep the government from playing a role that threatens them. If you leave all of that intact, and that’s a fundamental political and ideological condition, then you’re going to face an indeterminate period of time of real economic decline …
And when the state takes it over, as in the Soviet Union, you still have the gap between the mass of people who do the work and the tiny group who make the decisions, but what has changed is that the tiny group is state officials put there by the government or the Communist Party or whatever ruling groups there are, but you still have an organization that juxtaposes a small group of decision-makers at the top, and a vast mass of workers excluded from those decisions practically and in actuality at the other end. …
What we need to do in addition to social ownership of means of production and proper planning for the economic outcomes we want, is we need to democratize enterprises, to finally say goodbye to the capitalist organization of enterprises that has subordinated all of the decisions that enterprises make, that impact the politics, the culture of the whole society, have subordinated those to what is privately profitable rather than what is socially desirable and sustainable. This has driven us to an impossible situation, and whether we look at it environmentally by the degradation of nature that these corporations have done, or we look at it in terms of social inequality, the time to go beyond capitalism is obvious – it’s now, and it’s long overdue.

It certainly looks as though a decision is going to be forced upon Greece … leaving the European Unit necessarily entails a radical solution. Are the Greeks up to it? Are the Russians up to it? Are we up to it?

Posted by: jfl | Jan 18 2015 0:58 utc | 112

Somebody else, who I do assume is named Mike Maloney, linked to What is going on in Spain, which also references the radical restructuring necessary to skim the scum, and get out from under the dictatorship of the plutocariot, from the perspective of yet another candidate for exit from the European Unit.
I cannot help imaging the sunny south of Europe getting radical with energy as well as – in concert with – a radical political restructure and seriously pursuing photosynthetic hydrogen production as the solution to ‘their’ energy problems, thereby demonstrating to the rest of us ‘how to’ wrest our destiny from the ‘cyborgs’ and put it back in the hands of humans.

Posted by: jfl | Jan 18 2015 1:20 utc | 113