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January 8, 2015
Open Thread 2015-02

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Sakar today (excerpt):
Let me ask you this: what would be the point of, say, taking a nap on train tracks? You don’t have to “agree” with the train which will run you over, but it still will, won’t it? What about taking a nap on train tracks specifically to make a point? To prove that the train is bad? To dare it? To make fun of it? Would that not be the height of stupidity? And yet, that is *exactly* what Charlie Hebdo did. I would even argue that that his how Charlie Hebdo made it’s money, daring the “Muslim train” to run them over. You think I am exaggerating? Check out the caricature which one of the folks who got murdered yesterday had just posted. The text reads: “Still no terrorist attacks in France – Wait, we have until the end of January to send you are best wishes”. The crazy person shown in the drawing is packing a Kalashnikov and wearing an Afghan “Pakol” – the typical “crazy Muslim” in Charlie Hebdo’s world. Talk about a stupid dare…
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The fact is that the AngloZionists have carefully and lovingly nurtured, organized, armed, financed, trained, equipped and even directed the Takfiri crazies for decades. From the war in Afghanistan to Syria today these murderous psychopaths have been the foot-soldiers of the AngloZionist Empire for decades. But, apparently, nobody cares about their victims in Afghanistan, in Bosnia, in Chechnia, in Kosovo, in Libya, in Kurdistan, in Iraq or elsewhere. There these liver-eating murderers are “freedom fighters” who get full support. Including from the very same media which today is in mourning over Charlie Hebdo. Apparently, in the western ethos some victims are more equal then others.

Posted by: okie farmer | Jan 8 2015 19:21 utc | 1

Sorry, forgot the link:
http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/2015/01/i-am-not-charlie.html

Posted by: okie farmer | Jan 8 2015 19:27 utc | 2

No, The Saker is not Charlie, he’s worse than Charlie. The Saker is Charlie if Charlie took its act to Yemen and set up shop there, or Iraq, or Iran, or Saudi Arabia or the UAE or any other Muslim country. Charlie is not The Saker because Charlie isn’t stupid enough to piss off Muslims in their own home as The Saker does with Americans in America.

Posted by: Cold N. Holefield | Jan 8 2015 20:20 utc | 3

Lawmakers named transsexuals a major factor for car accidents. Yes, you’re right – this is Russia, 21st century.

Posted by: Ulster | Jan 8 2015 20:33 utc | 4

Cold’n is definitely a right proper Charlie too

Posted by: Rogan Josh | Jan 8 2015 20:37 utc | 5

LandDestroyer

In the recent attack in Paris, France, the canards of

  • “free speech,”
  • “condemning radical Islam,”
  • “tolerance,” and
  • “extremism”

have all taken center stage, displacing the fact that the terrorists who carried out the attack were long on the leash not of “Islamic extremists” but Western intelligence agencies, fighting in a Western proxy war, as a member of a well-funded, armed, and trained mercenary force that has, on record since as early as 2007, been an essential component of Western foreign policy.

Canards . . .
If it looks like a duck . . . . .

Posted by: Rogan Josh | Jan 8 2015 20:45 utc | 6

@6 – I read that as well, and not to sound whatever, but those were among my thoughts as this event unfolded. Lots of typical “hot button” talking points, some of which mimic the recent ridiculousness surrounding that pathetic “comedy” from Sony & the alleged hack by DPRK.
Interesting to note the parallels between 2 events, but please do not misunderstand me. I am, in no way, minimizing the horror of those murdered men in Paris. Clearly quite different from not being able to watch a shitty movie. Very sorry for their families. Most unfortunate. 9/11 a la Paris anyone??

Posted by: RUKidding | Jan 8 2015 20:52 utc | 7

@3, As opposed to pissing off Russians in Russia…..

Posted by: georgeg | Jan 8 2015 21:02 utc | 8

Posted by: Rogan Josh | Jan 8, 2015 3:45:23 PM | 6
Since we’re throwing spaghetti at the conspiracy wall of fame, I think it was the Russians. Putin loves Marinara Le Play Pen and would like nothing more than to see her in power. Plus, the body language of the shooters looks decidedly Russian to me. More specifically, Caucasus. Chechens. The French police and intelligence services will pin it on some poor, stupid dopes they’ve been cultivating as patsies for a cover story when they know they can’t go after who really did it. America did it is as much a canard as any of your other canards.

Posted by: Cold N. Holefield | Jan 8 2015 21:32 utc | 9

Russian Crimea Still Ecstatic, Hopeful for the Future
On anecdotal evidence people are overjoyed to be done with Kiev, but Tatars still don’t trust Moscow

As I return to my vehicle, a man in a Sevastopol-registered car rolls down his window and asks for an update.
“What’s he saying?”
“That God will decide when we get there.”
“I hope God knows we are trying to get home for New Year’s. I am tired. I’ve already driven from Rostov.”
“Maybe if Crimea goes back to Ukraine, God will call off the storm?”
“No, No, No! Crimea is never returning to Ukraine! I’d sit here for six months rather than do that.”
etc
http://russia-insider.com/en/2015/01/07/2248

Posted by: brian | Jan 8 2015 21:36 utc | 10

Posted by: Cold N. Holefield | Jan 8, 2015 3:20:36 PM | 3
i am not Cole N Holeinthehead!

Posted by: brian | Jan 8 2015 21:36 utc | 11

The early ending of the new political control?

Posted by: nmb | Jan 8 2015 21:40 utc | 12

Why WOULDN’T the CIA et al in Syria, Jordan, etc send recent ‘warriors’ on a Charlie Hebdo style mission? It’s all hardly precedent-setting behavior for US imperialism and spookery. Mike Morrell was practically salivating with nostalgia when he was called on to analyze yesterday’s attack on CBS.
I’ll go as far as to say a person who believes that the CIA and western interests are indeed training and funding a type of mercenarism in Syria – which they have now admitted – but can’t believe that these same mercenaries would be sent on ‘international’ missions by their benefactors, is utterly naive.
I’m so over the whole thing. Je suis Charlie épuisée.

Posted by: L Bean | Jan 8 2015 22:32 utc | 13

@ 3
Charlie is not The Saker because Charlie isn’t stupid enough to piss off Muslims in their own home as The Saker does with Americans in America.
You don’t get it. That’s the only legitimate and honorable way to do it. Although to be fair the US would be fair game to anybody in the world, because it exercises power over everybody in the world.

Posted by: ee | Jan 8 2015 23:39 utc | 14

Although to be fair the US would be fair game to anybody in the world, because it exercises power over everybody in the world.
Wow, that’s a lot of credit you’re affording a bunch of incompetent morons who’ve stumbled their way into being Masters of the Universe. What I mean by that is not two threads ago, it was a group consensus that America is nothing more than an incompetent, bumbling fool, and yet you tell me this. Which is it? Youse peeps need to make up your minds and quit being so neurotic.

Posted by: Cold N. Holefield | Jan 9 2015 0:03 utc | 15

“So now let’s talk seriously about #CharlieHebdo and Western double standard on freedom of speech”
http://t.co/X8iyp64azl

Posted by: neretva’43 | Jan 9 2015 0:08 utc | 16

Cold…… You sure say a lot for someone with nothing to say!

Posted by: ..james | Jan 9 2015 0:11 utc | 17

17
Actually he said quite a lot in the following
Wow, that’s a lot of credit you’re affording a bunch of incompetent morons who’ve stumbled their way into being Masters of the Universe. What I mean by that is not two threads ago, it was a group consensus that America is nothing more than an incompetent, bumbling fool, and yet you tell me this. Which is it? Youse peeps need to make up your minds
Plus hes funnier than the commune-tards.

Posted by: Rogan Josh | Jan 9 2015 0:26 utc | 18

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/World/WOR-01-080115.html

Predictably, Islamofascism peddlers are already having a field day/week/month/year. For simpletons/trolls/hordes exhibiting an IQ worthy of sub-zoology, when in doubt, demonize Islam. It’s so convenient to forget that untold millions from Pakistan’s tribal areas to street markets across Iraq continue to feel pain devastating their hearts and lives as they are expendable victims of the jihadi mindset – or “Kalashnikov culture”, as it is known in Pakistan – profiting the “West”, directly or indirectly, for decades now. Think ritual droning of Pakistani, Yemeni, Syrian, Iraqi or Libyan civilians. Think Sadr City witnessing carnages over 10 times worse than Paris.

Cui bono, then, with killing Charlie? Only those whose agenda is to demonize Islam. Not even a bunch of brainwashed fanatics would pull off the Charlie carnage to show people who accuse them of being barbarians that they are, in fact, barbarians. French intel at least has concluded that this is no underwear bomber stunt. This is a pro job. That happens to take place just a few days after France recognizes Palestinian statehood. And just a few days after General Hollande demanded the lifting of sanctions against the Russian “threat”.

Posted by: neretva’43 | Jan 9 2015 0:35 utc | 19

@18. Thanks for verifying my impression of you too.

Posted by: ..james | Jan 9 2015 0:49 utc | 20

@ 17
You consider that a lot? What has the competency with which power is exerted have to do with its being felt?
I do agree he is funny.

Posted by: ee | Jan 9 2015 0:51 utc | 21

20
So all of a sudden you’re a convert to the incompetence theory, or at least when it suits you it seems
I didnt think you were that dumb

Posted by: Rogan Josh | Jan 9 2015 0:52 utc | 22

I highly recommend taking 40 minutes out of your life this weekend, to watch this: Sen. Feinstein Accuses CIA of Searching Congressional Computers
The Panetta briefing. Would make for a good folk band name…

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jan 9 2015 1:18 utc | 23

U$ at 23 —
Watch for the debut album, “Cafe Society Pages,” on Folkway Records. Available in all formats!

Posted by: rufus magister | Jan 9 2015 1:54 utc | 24

Speaking of humor, I have a very apropos suggestion. I’ve not been on this site in a while, which I suddenly regret. Not only quite droll, it is spot on about theology as well, and as you will see, quite ecumenical. I give you the further adventures of “Jesus and Mo'”. Please note today’s posting “Nous Sommes…” especially, either at their main page here or image itself “here. Be sure to sample the Random Comic button in the upper left.
Lager for me, please, Barmaid.

Posted by: rufus magister | Jan 9 2015 2:08 utc | 25

Ulster @ 4
How much do you want to bet this ban on transexuals driving in Russia is just more Russophobic media propaganda? No Russian transvestite or fetishist will ever be kept from getting a driving license.
It’s now the most read story on BBC site.

Posted by: J. Bradley | Jan 9 2015 2:24 utc | 26

@23 Thanks, Unlce $cam. Listened to it. The CIA never quits their games. And I don’t suppose they ever will until they get worse than a tongue-lashing from the Congress.
I had mixed feelings though – not that she’s not right. And the CIA is most certainly wrong. But this is, after all, someone who does a lot to enable the National Security State. Then, after granting them huge powers, she wonders why they act like they can take even more?
I’m not sure what crime the CIA would have to commit to make these people understand that this is an organization with ZERO respect for the law. Yet she keeps talking about the CIA as if she simply cannot believe the CIA doesn’t live up to its word and its agreements. She’s talking about not getting letters back from the CIA. She “asks for an apology”. It’s not that she isn’t right, she is absolutely right – but its sad. I mean, its like watching a baby get tricked or something. And by the middle, she’s answering their charges.
She makes good points and she’s right on all of them. This is a constitutional crisis – the problem is, that waiting until these organizations have turned on you is the worst time to call them to account. After doing their work for them for many years – she helped them limit FISA, she’s been a big supporter of the PATRIOT ACT, she does their work by being a vocal critic of Assange – then you act shocked when they overstep their bounds? It’s just… disappointing. No wonder no one has any faith in the Congress.
And this, we have to presume, is the worst that will happen to them. The CIA honchos will snicker through this short speech on the floor of the Senate and then… that’s it. Back to monkey business.

Posted by: guest77 | Jan 9 2015 2:27 utc | 27

@JoshRogan/MasterOfSockPuppets – It sure does get boring to have to hear you call yourself “smart” for the millionth time as you dribble out same mediocre, tired horseshit again. We sat through your sockpuppet show yesterday, are you going to make us sit through it today again?

Posted by: guest77 | Jan 9 2015 2:27 utc | 28

Conspiracy theories….communists,lol….now incompetence theories…the language says it all….

Posted by: ..james | Jan 9 2015 2:36 utc | 29

People like Ulster will believe anything so long as it gives them that little tingle of hatred.
He’s part of that important demographic which the glut of “PUTIN ATE MY KUWAITI INCUBATOR BABY!” stories are aimed at.

Posted by: guest77 | Jan 9 2015 2:37 utc | 30

@ 3: Actually, the only thing that pisses off Americans (USA), is their flat screens losing signal in the middle of the NFL playoffs.

Posted by: ben | Jan 9 2015 2:40 utc | 31

Re: Cold N. Holefield | Jan 8, 2015 3:20:36 PM | 3
Wow!
Some “anti-semite” dares to mention ‘Anglo-Zionist’ and Cold N. Ziofield goes ballistic, psychotic, irrational and defensive. All at the same time.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jan 9 2015 3:21 utc | 32

One could be forgiven for assuming that (multi-tasking) Cold imagines herself as a sort of Girl Who Kicked The Hornet’s Nest.
From the inside.
Anonymously…

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jan 9 2015 3:33 utc | 33

Russian Spring
01/09/2015-03:16
Military overview of “Russian Spring” by military journalist Step`:
Day and night on December 8, Ukrainian army was bombarding perimeter of Donetsk from cannons and rocket systems simultaneously from north, north-west and south-west.
In all occasions the combatants received orders to retaliate. The cannonade lasted until midnight; in some places longer.
Suffered densely populated districts Kievsky, Kuybishevskiy, Kirovskiy, Pertrovskiy. Massive damage to residential buildings, conflagrations, blazes, impairments to gas lines, electric power stations, water pipes were registered…
Weather forecast predicts temperatures as low as -29 C (-20 F), which will last through December 11.

Posted by: Fete | Jan 9 2015 4:10 utc | 34

Billmon tweets:
I don’t believe I’ve personally ever encountered so many “free speech” militants who object so vociferously to exercising free speech.

Posted by: samo samo | Jan 9 2015 4:49 utc | 35

One could be forgiven for assuming that (multi-tasking) Cold imagines herself as a sort of Girl Who Kicked The Hornet’s Nest.
From the inside.
Anonymously…

Hoarsewhisperer @ #33
Haha… I thought you were talking about Feinstein, at first…

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jan 9 2015 4:52 utc | 36

TYT video misreporting critical issue
I do hope a we can start a public dialog about this because it is wrong for a media outlet which claims to be liberal and progressive to spread lies against victims of brutality and oppression. See this video called Young Turks, Please Correct Your Israel Reporting

Posted by: Tom Murphy | Jan 9 2015 4:59 utc | 37

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2015/01/open-thread-2015-01.html#c6a00d8341c640e53ef01b8d0b996f0970c
to recap,
nov 2013
indonesia, malaysia cozy up to xi and putin,
2014……
china, russia, malaysia, indonesia hit with a trible whammy, mh370, mh17, airasia QZ8501
i could go on…
nov 2013
xi and thailand’s pm yingluck strenghtened tie in their bali meeting, [1]
2014,
yingluck outsted by soros global regime change *swarming adolescense*.
yinglucks bro thaksin was deposed in 2006 by pro murcunt generals, once again, he committed the cardinal sin of cozying up to china. [2]
as for china’s another long time ally myanmar,
u can strike it from the regime change to do list.
the myanmar govt has already *seen the light* [3]
and voluntarily *open up* wide for zwo. [4]
god knows what did hillary *the enforcer* clinton whisper into the generals ear during her nov 2011 sojourn to rangoon,
*u wanna be with me or…..gadaffi ?*
the timing was immaculate,
gadaffi was brutally killed and miamed by zwo sponsored terrorists barely one mth ago, his grissly death was widely publicized in cyberspace.
an unveiled warning to anyone who dare to defy the washington consensus and get chummy with *the other side* ?
apparently the myanmar govn got the msg. !
i could go on but surely by now,
only the blind could fail to see the pattern….
u’r either with us or against us
there aint no middle ground for this zwo gang.
[1]
http://www.fmprc.gov.cn/mfa_eng/topics_665678/xjpfwynmlxycx21apec_665682/t1085654.shtml
*The most important was the currency swap deal between the Bank of Thailand and the People’s Bank of China, worth 70 billion RMB to strengthen trade and investment. This agreement will permit Thai and Chinese exporters to settle their trade deals in their own currencies, thus decreasing the influence of US dollar in their trade. This agreement will last for three years and will be extended by mutual consent. *
http://www.ipcs.org/article/china/china-and-thailand-analyzing-xi-jinpings-visit-3564.html
[2]
* Thaksin made “new strategic overtures towards Beijing” and undermined “the US’s near monopoly on military-to-military training in Thailand.
“Thaksin also increased Thailand’s arms purchases from China during his tenure*
http://aangirfan.blogspot.sg/2014/02/thailand-explained.html
[3]
http://www.voltairenet.org/article174240.html
[4]
*Please America, Be Gentle: It’s My First Time !*
http://dissidentvoice.org/2012/05/please-america-be-gentle-its-my-first-time/

Posted by: denk | Jan 9 2015 5:20 utc | 38

Don’t know if there is any gumption left hereabouts to sort through the Bush-era torture horror show. Did see a mid-December MOA post from which I pulled the poll links shared in the following (nod to B and Jackrabbit @ 13 on that thread).
Anyway, submitted five questions to Ray McGovern on his YouTube page tonight, in the comments on his latest post there. No reply yet! For your perusal:
[Housekeeping note: Used to post here as manonfyre. Have been away for some time. MOA barflies helped to to keep my sanity stitched together through the Bush/Cheney years. Thanks for that. Good to be back! Seeing some ol’ familar names. Cheers!]
Mr. McGovern! Thank you for your service and your tenacious advocacy! I don’t know (I guess we’ll find out) if you respond to questions here, but I have five related questions for you on this subject.
Recall the false confessions of Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi (aka: “Curveball”) obtained by torture, and subsequently read out as writ by Colin Powell at the UN Security Council meeting just before the advent of U.S. hostilities against Iraq, of non-existent Iraq/Al-qai’da links and Iraqi WMD programs.[1] This was exactly the stuff Cheney & Company needed, along with the yellowcake forgeries, the anthrax hysteria, and all the rest, to conjure up a patina of justification for their planned-before-9/11, aching-for-any-excuse war of aggression against Iraq.
John Landay at McClatchy and Col. Lawrence Wilkerson (former Chief of Staff to then Secretary of State Colin Powell) among others have reported that the Cheney/Rumsfeld tag team wanted more of this.[2] Yes, Cheney & Company wanted CIA, military, and “contracted” interrogators to learn more about Al-qai’da’s structure, membership, and operations; and to uncover and thwart any outstanding plots that threatened the United States or its interests. But, much of the “furious” pressure to resort to torture (acc. to Wilkerson) was aimed at obtaining more false confessions like those extracted from Curveball. “Its [the torture program’s] principal priority for intelligence was not aimed at pre-empting another terrorist attack on the U.S. but discovering a smoking gun linking Iraq and al-Qa’ida.” (~ Wilkerson) They were desperate to “backfill” one of the false premises of the war — of “close ties” between Iraq and Al-qai’da — and were willing to “torture some folks” (~ Obama) in order to obtain that kind of testimony.
First: In your opinion, was this war with Iraq a war of aggression — “the supreme international crime” (acc. Robert H. Jackson, chief U.S. prosecutor at Nuremberg)?
Second: Do you have additional insight or an opinion as to the veracity of these “false confession” allegations? Did high officials of the United States government institute a program of torture, in part, to obtain false confessions?
Also, there has been extensive reporting (by Scott Horton, Jon Sifton, Glenn Greenwald, et al) about how “dozens” of captive prisoners in U.S. custody were tortured to death in this period.[3] The ACLU has published facsimiles of “official” DOD death certificates that list as “homicide” the manner of death of a number of detainees who died while in U.S. custody. {My link to this info is old and broken, but this info is out there. The Wikipedia page regarding “Dilawar (torture victim)” — made famous in Alex Gibney’s Oscar-winning documentary, “Taxi to the Dark Side” — does have a link to one of these reports.[4]}.
Third: Have you also concluded that, well beyond “mere” waterboarding, “dozens” of captive prisoners were tortured to death during this episode?
There is also reporting in a Amazon/Disney, er, Washington Post/ABC “News” poll that a “majority of Americans think torture was justified after [the] 9/11 attacks.”[5] However, a deeper examanition of the issue suggests that:
“The [US] public has seldom been supportive of torture, even when presented with ‘ticking time bomb’ scenarios where the intelligence is described as vital to stopping an impending terrorist attack. When asked about actual torture practices such as waterboarding or sexual humiliation, public support mostly collapses.”[6]
Fourth: Do you think that a “majority of Americans” simply do not know enough about how entensive and brutal this torture program was? And if more was broadly known, do you think there’d be a greater clamor for prosecutions?
Perhaps indiscrimnate blood-lust was and remains the political will of the U.S. public after 9/11, and Cheney & Company delivered.
Fifth and finally: Any “inside” skinny that you can share, beyond what we’re hearing, about the “Queen of torture,” Alfreda Frances Bikowsky?
Thank you!!
___________________
“I want to be absolutely clear with our people and the world: The United States does not torture. It’s against our laws, and it’s against our values. I have not authorized it, and I will not authorize it.”
~ George W. Bush, 2006
“Chuck, to even try to draw a parallel between the Japanese who were prosecuted for war crimes after World War II and what we did with waterboarding three individuals — all of whom are guilty and participated in the 9/11 attacks.”
~ Richard Bruce Cheney, on Meet the Press, Dec. 14, 2014, aping what many Bush administration officials have said for years, that the U.S. “only” waterboarded three terror suspects
“When it comes to the Bush administration, whatever the subject may be and however bad you think things are, they’re going to be at least several fallback positions worse than whatever top administration officials may be fessing up to at any given moment. This, after all, is the administration of adamant denials, followed by forceful non-confessions, followed by proud statements, followed by limited hang-outs, followed by even more grudging, only slightly less limited hang-outs.”
~ Tom Englehardt, March 16, 2006, regarding the rolling revelations of the NSA’s warrantless surveilance program, and so much else
“Nothing predicts future behavior as much as past impunity.”
~ Darius Rejali, a professor of political science at Reed College and an expert on torture regimes
__________________
1. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/feb/16/colin-powell-cia-curveball
2. http://www.democrats.com/lawrence-wilkerson-drops-an-iraq-torture-bombshell
3. http://harpers.org/blog/2009/05/the-bush-era-torture-homicides/
4. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilawar_(torture_victim)#cite_note-DilawarAutopsy-4
5. http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/new-poll-finds-majority-of-americans-believe-torture-justified-after-911-attacks/2014/12/16/f6ee1208-847c-11e4-9534-f79a23c40e6c_story.html
6. http://theconversation.com/americans-are-deeply-divided-about-torture-35350

Posted by: Robert Lyons | Jan 9 2015 6:09 utc | 39

Excellent Pepe Escobar article…whoever recommended it above.

Posted by: MRW | Jan 9 2015 8:01 utc | 40

For anyone interested, I have transcribed and posted The Company and the Country, Part II, the second half of Frank Morrow’s interview with Phil Agee from November, 1995.

Posted by: jfl | Jan 9 2015 8:15 utc | 41

JB #26
You obviously “understand” Putin, I don’t.

Posted by: ralphieboy | Jan 9 2015 9:24 utc | 42

@39Mrw…ditto…that was neretva @19. There was even a good line in that for describing the cold one.

Posted by: ..james | Jan 9 2015 10:33 utc | 43

28
Nice to see el Grande Stupido back again to dribble his verbal faeces all over the thread
Being trolled by possibly the stupidest shit-dribblimg commune-tard on the planet never gets tired.
Here boy, fetch!

Posted by: Rogan Josh | Jan 9 2015 11:33 utc | 44

Actually, the only thing that pisses off Americans (USA), is their flat screens losing signal in the middle of the NFL playoffs.
So true. Also, a disruption in the supply of high fructose corn syrup — the wonder drug that’s virtually free. This is the answer to radical Islam, actually, and it is what will ultimately pacify the Middle East and all Muslims everywhere. A combination of copious amounts of high fructose corn syrup in all its manifest forms and perpetual, uninterrupted NFL playoffs all year round. Of course, a few teams will have to be added for the saker of inclusivity. I have an idea for a couple of names, but feel free to add to the mix. The Jihadis and The Prophets are a good start. Jihad could even be a famous soft drink like Koch. Have a Jihad and a Smile would be a great slogan. And all of the aforementioned can be accomplished without malice or violence. What’s not to like? When can we get started? Who’s game? If the two Paris shooters are a legitimate example, they’re easily indoctrinated into Western culture as witnessed by their fondness for Rap music. You have to appreciate and love the contradictions of the liberal media narrative. They speak of these idiotic cretins as being fans of Rap music, which we all know is permeated with explicit violent overtones, and don’t make the connection between it and the alleged violence exhibited by these suspects. No, their alleged propensity for violence can only be ascribed to radical elements within Islam versus radical and violent elements within a spreading American Black subculture.
Meet France’s Toughest Rappers

Posted by: Cold N. Holefield | Jan 9 2015 11:38 utc | 45

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The Western (sic) White Media hasn’t seemed to figure out yet, that as long as they keep this running Kill All Muslims™ dialogue going in the Full Spectrum Dominance OmniMedia, proving an immense benefit to the Mil.Gov Mobsters looting the Social Security Fund, and good cover for FrankenBanksters who just saw their equities markets rebound in huge leaps, jumps now setting up Yellen / Draghi’s rampant Perpetual Interest Only Forever on Ubers’ WHOLLY ILLEGAL synthetic debt obligation gambling debts laid on the public’s back,…that as long as the WWM draws out this Five Minutes of H8 into days and weeks… then that’s exactly how likely the CIA/Mossad will be to use ADDITIONAL media massacres, whenever it’s useful for the Third Way Wehrmacht. And they can slaughter the most satirical, sardonic media, why, it’s almost like a two-fer! If I were the editor of the Titanic, I’d be wary.

Posted by: ChipNikh | Jan 9 2015 11:51 utc | 46

Hostage situation in Paris-east @Kosher Market, two persons killed.
Julian Pain @JulianPain
French police publishes photos of suspect
in yesterday’s Montrouge shooting. Maybe
the same persons in Kosher market
LIVE report France24

Posted by: Oui | Jan 9 2015 13:49 utc | 48

The troll conflates rap music as “western” – which is symptomatic of its ongoing delusions on knowledge. Rap music is one of the chosen forms of expression of urban ghetto blacks used to express anger at their societal repression, now popularized by the usual middle class teenager desire to make their parents’ angry.
Yet somehow this form of music intended as expression against “western” societal values is somehow emblematic of the West?
Yet another amusingly ham-handed grope at intellectual respectability – one which, as others, fails miserably.

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 9 2015 13:56 utc | 49

Rap music, especially gangsta rap variant so heavily marketed and exported by the music moguls over the past 20 yrs or so, is 100% “Western” and is the Systems chosen perfect antidote to the much more socially-aware Black urban Ghetto music which preceded it
Sly and the Family Stone, Gil Scott Heron, Marvin Gaye, Bobby Womack etc never referred to “niggaz”, “bitches”, “Ho’s” “m’u fuckaz” etc. They referred instead to “brothers”, “sisters”.
TPTB surely saw this as problem and consequently promoted the most violent degrading alternative it could find as an “antidote” to the much more socially-aware Black urban Ghetto music which preceded it

Posted by: Rogan Josh | Jan 9 2015 14:12 utc | 50

Posted by: Rogan Josh | Jan 9, 2015 7:10:04 AM | 46
Interesting. It looks to be a complete miss. Notice the concrete dust that’s kicked up from the sidewalk where the bullet hit. It hit left of the police officer from the shooter’s vantage. Wow. And did you know that the outfit that filmed this just so happened to have recently set up shop next to Hebdo and it was the very same outfit that, or the producer is the very same person who, ran a piece in 2005 about radicalizing French youth and the Kouachi brothers were front and center in that documentary? Somedays, I believe this really is The Matrix. As this tragedy unfolded, those who choose what we see on television decided to play The Brothers Karamazov when IRL we get The Brothers Kouachi playing in the news approximately two years after we got The Brothers Tsarnaev. If this is The Matrix, it has a wicked sense of humor — one that makes Charlie look like a satirical imposter.

Posted by: Cold N. Holefield | Jan 9 2015 14:13 utc | 51

Bobby Womack – Across 110th Street http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtzRJgZG98I
Gil Scott-Heron — The Bottle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdhoX1Xu6ZI
compare with
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3Jwxs9b_gE

Posted by: Rogan Josh | Jan 9 2015 14:16 utc | 52

Posted by: Rogan Josh | Jan 9, 2015 9:12:07 AM | 49
Excellent post. Spot on.
Let’s juxtapose the messages of the following two offerings as an example. Which one’s the more positive, empowering and uplifting message?
Let’s Stay Together
One Big Incoherent Hostile Violent F Bomb

Posted by: Cold N. Holefield | Jan 9 2015 14:30 utc | 53

Cole N Holefield posted: “Charlie is not The Saker because Charlie isn’t stupid enough to piss off Muslims in their own home as The Saker does with Americans in America.”
Saker is not pissing off Americans. He is pissing off the psychopaths who run the US government. Cole N agrees that: “Actually, the only thing that pisses off Americans (USA), is their flat screens losing signal in the middle of the NFL playoffs.”
So true. Also, a disruption in the supply of high fructose corn syrup — the wonder drug that’s virtually free.

Posted by: Chan Pooi Hoong | Jan 9 2015 14:42 utc | 54

No comment!
TERRORIST in France!!! .. Freedom Fighters in Syria!!!!!
http://friendsofsyria.co/

Posted by: Rd. | Jan 9 2015 14:48 utc | 55

@ RJ 51: Thanks, nice trip into contrasting social comments. Sign, no doubt, in how times change. Not, IMO, always for the better.

Posted by: ben | Jan 9 2015 14:53 utc | 56

If this was an inside job, as snakearbusto indicated on the previous thread and I did as well earlier in that thread, Charlie pissed off a lot of people, most especially the French establishment to include the hard Right. If it was an inside job, the hard Right has a long memory in the long game and chose this time to strike while its iron is hot for maximum leverage. As such, it would have nothing to do with America since as we all know, America is about what Charlie Hebdo is about, or at least it is on paper some of the time. It’s more likely that if this operation was a joint effort by two or more countries, France’s hard Right was working hand & glove with Russia to bring this about. Russia would have the most to gain from aiding France’s hard Right in this endeavor.

Posted by: Cold N. Holefield | Jan 9 2015 14:56 utc | 57

http://youtu.be/7Rr0heFcF4A

Posted by: john | Jan 9 2015 15:24 utc | 58

Case in point. I’m sure she and the thugs she surrounds herself with were none to pleased with this. Zealots of any stripe don’t take kindly to any version of satire other than their own — the few of their ilk who are even capable of comprehending and/or crafting satire.
Charlie’s Take On Marinara Le Play Pen

Posted by: Cold N. Holefield | Jan 9 2015 15:28 utc | 59

the murcunt empire of chaos is on a roll.
china’s allies falling like ten pins, another one bites the dust !
sri lanka’s china friendly prez ousted by pro murcunt opposition.
*Decisions were made in Washington that Rajapakse had to be ousted in order to shift Sri Lankan foreign policy away from the close relations that his government developed with China, which included expanding military ties. * [1]
*As it intensifies its diplomatic, economic and military pressure against China, the US is pressing all governments in the region to back its aggressive “pivot to Asia.” Accordingly, it has thrown its weight behind regime change in Sri Lanka, to end Rajapakse’s attempts to balance between Washington and Beijing. The US will accept nothing less in Colombo than a government that collaborates in its preparations for war with China* [2]
[1]
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/01/09/slel-j09.html
[2]
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/01/08/slel-j08.html

Posted by: denk | Jan 9 2015 15:36 utc | 60

Cannonfire’s latest: http://cannonfire.blogspot.ca/

Posted by: ben | Jan 9 2015 16:18 utc | 61

Hostage crisis ends!
Three men suspects dead, hostages freed.
Police searching for woman involved in yesterday’s incident.

Posted by: Oui | Jan 9 2015 16:39 utc | 62

3 – Sourgrapes from an angry kook. You wish your silly blog had even 1/3 of the readers Saker has.

Posted by: farflungstar | Jan 9 2015 17:15 utc | 63

Hostage crisis in jewish supermarket:
http://forward.com/articles/212382/-hostages-killed-as-police-storm-paris-kosher-sup/
– Is this in response to the Charlie Hebdo shooting ? I would be surprised if it wasn’t linked to the Hebdo shooting.
– I consider this to be the blowback of Israëli repression of the Palestinians.

Posted by: Willy2 | Jan 9 2015 17:30 utc | 64

Lol now I read that there is a 3rd, yes 3rd hostage taking just beginning after the other finished ones. (RT.com)

Posted by: Anonymous | Jan 9 2015 17:38 utc | 65

I’m surprised there haven’t been more islamist terrorist attacks, in view of the propaganda, hate, that has been spewed by the MSM since before 9/11 – remember those souless, inhuman, monstrous, Palestinian suicide bombers!
Here a short list of some commonalities of these privatized (part of the deep state, plus private contractors) attacks, often:
1. Perpetrators or suspects designated too quickly, as if the plot is ready to roll and then must. (The plot is a bare-bones scenario on a few pages and eliminates much of the fuzziness of real life; time is compressed, as in a movie.) Often, incorrect and too many perps are designated, because non-insiders in the authoritarian circuit jump on the bandwagon with BS to participate and gain status, they can’t be ignored, must be taken seriously, so their info is put out. Wink wink.
2. Perps + suspects are identified with IDs / passports / FBI or such notices / prior arrests / descriptions / photographs, etc. They are ‘known’ somehow. As they *have* to be presented with a history of muslimness, radicalism, etc. Of course they are familiar – to their handlers! Another obligatory point is that they should be shown on vid -then TV, etc.- as figures, real nonetheless, because a part of the public will not believe without a picture (cannot read, etc.)
3. As much drama as possible arises: man-hunts, SWAT teams, anti-terror ops, shootings, etc. Lock-downs, alerts, cancelled transport, etc. (Compare with attacks by right- or left-wing extremists, greens, anti-banksters, anti-abortion, etc. which are sometimes not even reported ! – We had a series of package bombs to bankers here not long ago, I’m sure nobody has ever heard of it.) We see that the reactions are micro-managed, often make no strategic sense, are supposed to evidence ‘preparedness, efficiency, show of strength’, etc.
4. At the end of the road, there are often no / few convictions /many overturned ones and links to Al-Quaida (or whatever other ..) can’t be established. 9/11 had mostly dead perps (if one sets aside Khalid Sheik Mohammed and Moussaoui), the Madrid bombings convictions were all (iirc, except one?) overturned in 2008, Bali somewhat similar, etc. The isolated perps who do have a day in court often turn out to be lost souls without a radical heart or any coherent discourse about anything, e.g. intimate apparel (shoes, panties) bombers. (Compare with Breivik, who wrote hundreds of pages.)

Posted by: Noirette | Jan 9 2015 17:49 utc | 66

Sad news from France24 …
LIVE : 4 dead in Paris grocery hostage crisis, including gunman
Shots were heard early in the afternoon, but no official statements were given, understandably so.

Posted by: Oui | Jan 9 2015 18:11 utc | 67

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/08/world/europe/charlie-hebdo-paris-shooting.html?_r=1
Michael J. Morell, a former deputy director of the C.I.A. and now a consultant to CBS News, said it was unclear whether the attackers had acted on their own or been directed by organized groups.
He called the motive of the attackers “absolutely clear: trying to shut down a media organization that lampooned the Prophet Muhammad.”
“So, no doubt in my mind that this is terrorism,” he said.
Mr. Morell added, “What we have to figure out here is the perpetrators and whether they were self-radicalized or whether they were individuals who fought in Syria and Iraq and came back, or whether they were actually directed by ISIS or Al Qaeda.”

Posted by: Rogan Josh | Jan 9 2015 18:33 utc | 69

“former deputy director of the C.I.A. and now a consultant to CBS News”
Lol

Posted by: Rogan Josh | Jan 9 2015 18:34 utc | 70

Reese Erlich: “New Iraq war is doomed”
http://reeseerlich.com/2015/01/02/al-jazeera-america-new-iraq-war-is-doomed/
I see a different reason why the US ultimately will be forced to (dramatically) reduce (or eliminate) its military presence around the world. To see why one has to understand international money flows. I think somewhere in the future the US consumer will (dramatically) reduce its domestic spending. It will result in a (dramatic) reduction or elimination in the US current account deficit. And when the US current account deficit drops to zero then the foreigners are no longer funding those foreign military adventures. Then the US government will have foot the bill for those foreign military adventures for the full 100% (again). And then the US government WILL be FORCED to make some dramatic & deep (financial) cuts.
I am convinced that those dramatic cuts will lead to a military coup in the US.

Posted by: Willy2 | Jan 9 2015 18:36 utc | 71

How can that be? Does the Mossad share the no-fly list of the DHS? At least the US knew the Kouchai brothers traveled to Yemen, likely for a AQAP meeting/training. The French DGSE said they didn’t know. Did the Nigerian kid travel to Yemen before the Christmas bomber traveled from Lagos, Nigeria to Detroit through Amsterdam Schiphol airport with Israel security ICTS running business there.
Memory: ICTS International guarded Logan Airport, Boston on 9/11, was controlled and managed by Menachem Atzmon, who was also convicted of money laundering for his and Netanyahu’s and Ehud Olmert’s Likud Party.

Posted by: Oui | Jan 9 2015 18:46 utc | 72

See my diary for all the news about the Paris attack and the hostage crisis – Paris Attack: ‘Martyrs of Liberty’ ¶ HOSTAGE CRISIS ENDS.
AQAP and AQIM joined forces to attack US and targets in France

Posted by: Oui | Jan 9 2015 18:47 utc | 73

@Noirette, 64:
Excellent listing, thank you.
@Willy2, 69:
“Somewhere in the future the US consumer will (dramatically) reduce its domestic spending.”
When the dollar goes south after enough de-dollarization of trade and financial reserves, perhaps?
“Then the US government will have foot the bill for those foreign military adventures for the full 100% (again). And then the US government WILL be FORCED to make some dramatic & deep (financial) cuts.”
I’ve long thought that opposing factions will arise in the US Powers That Be, one devoted to maintaining every last garrison, puppet regime and outpost worldwide, the other advocating a “controlled retreat” to “the Monroe Line” (North and South America) plus Saudi Arabia. Perhaps comparable to the debate in the Wehrmacht General Staff over holding the line on the Eastern Front vs. pulling back to more defensible positions.
Details of this factionalization will of course be affected by other domestic and global agendas in the US/Transnational PTB.
“I am convinced that those dramatic cuts will lead to a military coup in the US.”
We’ve had a least three coups,, US-style, in my lifetime already: the Kennedy Assassination, the Nixon resignation and the Election of 2000 (renewed in ’04). The extent to which future coups here will have an openly military component will be an indicator of just how far the US PTB are slipping from power. Enter a time of increased dangers, but also perhaps a chance to dethrone the imperialists and rejoin the rest of the planet…

Posted by: Vintage Red | Jan 9 2015 19:27 utc | 74

This website dates back in my memory to being an alternative to the corporate media during the Iraq war, and b has done a magnificent job with keeping it relevant to the ongoing ‘war of terror’. It’s gotten to the point now to where I can’t read the comments without scrolling through where Cold Handjob has shot his wad (numerous times). Sad.

Posted by: Jim T | Jan 9 2015 20:16 utc | 75

“Then the US government will have foot the bill for those foreign military adventures for the full 100% (again). And then the US government WILL be FORCED to make some dramatic & deep (financial) cuts.”
Why? This is a stickup. The only ones footing the bill will be the unfortunate “liberated” forced to sign “free trade” agreements and “open” their economies, press, schools, media…

Posted by: ruralito | Jan 9 2015 20:42 utc | 76

If Paris attack had occurred in Moscow, would the gunmen be hailed as “freedom fighters” by the West?

Posted by: Andoheb | Jan 9 2015 20:44 utc | 77

Now find the bitch that escaped a put a bullet between her eyes.

Posted by: samo samo | Jan 9 2015 21:13 utc | 78

jfl @41
THANK YOU FOR THE TRANSCRIPTION!

Posted by: MRW | Jan 9 2015 21:23 utc | 79

Glenn Greenwald is in fine form.

But this week’s defense of free speech rights was so spirited that it gave rise to a brand new principle: to defend free speech, one not only defends the right to disseminate the speech, but embraces the content of the speech itself. Numerous writers thus demanded: to show “solidarity” with the murdered cartoonists, one should not merely condemn the attacks and defend the right of the cartoonists to publish, but should publish and even celebrate those cartoons. “The best response to Charlie Hebdo attack,” announced Slate’s editor Jacob Weisberg, “is to escalate blasphemous satire.”

The article then goes on to show several cartoons drawing attention to Jewish control over the United States, and asks whether journalists who “defended” free speech by celebrating the Charlie Hebdo islamophobic cartoons are willing to do the same when it comes to such cartoons about Israel and Jews.
The article also shows how the US has become truly post-Christian. (1) Several journalists say that the “blasphemy” of the islamophobic Charlie Heddo cartoons is good. But mocking Muhammad is only blasphemous if you are a Muslim. Blasphemy means the expression of irreverence to God, but no one could have been more irreverent to God than Muhammad, since Muhammad denied Christ’s divinity, and hence vehemently, obsessively rejected God. Christianity as the standard reference point for religious matters has completely disappeared. (2) To make his point that, when it comes to “satirical” “free speech” about religions, American journalists are only willing to celebrate expressions of Islamophobia, Greenwald chooses examples of the mocking of Zionism, not Christianity, to prove his point. This shows that Zionism has replaced Christianity as the primary religion of America.

Posted by: Demian | Jan 9 2015 22:33 utc | 81

71
Your conclusion shows that you don’t understand USA Mil.Gov very well.
Assuming logically likely reduced US consumer spending, even with cheaper gasoline freeing up savings, those savings are going to rapidly increasing rents, food and health insurance costs driven higher by QEn hot money speculation, then let’s throw in Yellen raising the interest rates so some -$500B a year is being bled out of Fed tax revenues as Interest Only Forever on the -$18T wholly illegal fraudulent ‘deficit’, then cuts will be made, big-time, …but where have you seen ANY evidence that Mil.Gov will take those budget hit?
The now RINO-RINO Congress of 1000 Years has received 3% raises since the Coup of 2001, and are the only USA-ians allowed to ‘legally’ insider-trade, while the Pentagon got 13% YOY! Penciled out, adding the new ‘national security’ funding to every US agency, Mil.Gov pulls in more than $1TRILLION a year for the National Security State. I know of a *part-time* VA secretary position paid $92,000 a year! Does that sound like cutbacks? Pentagon has 1,000s of open positions, six-figures, reserved for TS/SCI top security clearance ONLY. Pentagon mercenary contractors have 10,000s of positions, under a call by Congress for ALL Pentagon contracts to be NO BID! There are more Admirals than fighting ships, and more Generals than fighting platoons, and they all make $250,000 a year, for life. It’s a Great Big Pentangle Club devoted exclusively to Death, to Chaos, to Satan, …and you and I ain’t in it.
Laissez les bon temps roulez, as US SSTF/MC funds are LOOTED down to PAYG, as hospice care is cut, soon senior care will be cut, and the masses of unengaged, unemployed youth pitted against the cringing senior quintile, desperately holding onto their monthly 0% COLA SSTF check, and their EBT food stamp card, trading the bread and sausages for booze and cigs.
You can gauge the veracity of your theory in a simple test: Cheney, Rumsfeld and Kissinger, McCain and Graham, mass murdering war criminals of the highest Nuremberg order, are all walking around free as $100M-aire jay birds, … you and I are trying to Tor all our posts, and praying there will still be a social safety net, when we’re frog-marched out the door.
Yeah.
On to Demos~! On to Phobos~! Lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu.

Posted by: ChipNikh | Jan 9 2015 23:14 utc | 82

Is there no end to horseshit?

Berlin (AFP) – Intelligence suggests that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad is building a secret underground plant with the aim of developing nuclear weapons, Germany’s Spiegel news magazine said Friday.
Citing information made available by unidentified intelligence sources, Spiegel said the plant was in an inaccessible mountain region in the west of the war-ravaged country, two kilometres (1.2 miles) from the Lebanese border.

So anybody who thought the False Flag attack on CH changes the imperial plan to overthrow the legitimate Syrian government and replace it with either a Takfiri regime or neverending NATO terrorist war, should now know better.

Posted by: Lysander | Jan 9 2015 23:39 utc | 83

@Lysander #83:
It wasn’t a false flag. AQAP are taking credit for it, as I noted in the CH thread. Unlike the case with some people, my initial impression was that this wasn’t a false flag.

Posted by: Demian | Jan 9 2015 23:51 utc | 84

The title refers to the ‘big fish’, but the article details the attacks on Argentina, Venezuala, and Greece as well … and of course they are demonstrated nakedly in Ukraine …
China and the Shadow Bankers

The Ukraine is yet another classical case of shadow bankers preying upon an economy in distress. In the wake of the Ukraine’s descent into economic depression in 2014, the IMF and western commercial bank and government (European Commission) policies have put heads of western shadow banks in direct and daily management control of Ukraine’s economy.
This past December, the CEO of the USA private equity firm, Horizon Capital, Natalia Jaresko, was appointed by Ukraine’s Poroshenko government as its official Finance Minister, while a western European, Aivaras Abramavicius, with close ties to Swedish and German shadow banks, was appointed as Economics Minister for the Ukraine.
Shadow banks in the case of Ukraine will now be able to dismantle and destabilize the Ukraine economy ‘from the inside’, instead of dictating its policies from the outside as has been traditionally the case of other economies.

Posted by: jfl | Jan 10 2015 0:05 utc | 85

Demian
Just because someone say they.are behind doesnt necessary imply any truth.

Posted by: Anonymous | Jan 10 2015 0:09 utc | 86

77
‘The Agence France-Presse is reporting that Said and Cherif Kouachi, the brothers believed to be responsible for the attack on the offices of Charlie Hebdo on Wednesday, have been killed in a hail of bullets.’
Exactly as predicted two days ago. The Paris kosher deli is a Mossad? DISTRACTION ON TOP OF A DISTRACTION, marking #Je’suisCharlie permanently engraved on the Tablets of Muslim Atrocity, and filling up all the illegal settlement condos on the West Bank with French-Jew emigres.
Henry Kissinger a juste obtenu un ‘stiffy’, peut-être.

Posted by: ChipNikh | Jan 10 2015 0:19 utc | 87

The West has repeatedly said that it does not want to collaborate with Syria on the whereabouts of the hundreds of westerners who have joined the fighters through accomplice Turkey, funded by Saudi Arabia, Qatar and trained by the CIA.
Therefore I won’t be surprised is the Syrian intelligence gets ready to brainwash these people in “reverse engineering” and direct them to create terrorists acts in the same Western countries they came from.
Will the spreading of fear change the West’s failed policy in Syria?
Very probably.

Posted by: Virgile | Jan 10 2015 0:25 utc | 88

@Anonymous #86:
I guess you didn’t bother to read the article. I guess you think so little of Muslims that you don’t think they have any agency.
A representative of AQAP quoted in that Intercept article makes an interesting point:

Was it a crime to kill Samir Khan for being a member of Inspire Team?
Was it a crime to kill Fuad Al-Hadhrami, the brother who accompanied journalists in S.Yemen?
Charlie Hebdo’s editor-in-chief Gerard Biard remarked he didn’t “understand how people can attack a newspaper with heavy weapons. A newspaper is not a weapon of war.” Isn’t Inspire a magazine? Are we to conclude that drones and missiles aren’t heavy weapons?

Definite case of blowback.

Posted by: Demian | Jan 10 2015 0:26 utc | 89

The wallets were left in one of the vehicles used in the terror spree. Haven’t we seen the same mo before? September? 2001?

Posted by: Alberto | Jan 10 2015 1:30 utc | 91

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeeeFxA_9nA
This is AK-47 in slow motion firing. Anybody see anything similar from the first link, casing, smoke from rifle etc., as the creator of the video suggested?

Posted by: neretva43 | Jan 10 2015 1:55 utc | 92

The wallets were left in one of the vehicles used in the terror spree. Haven’t we seen the same mo before? September? 2001?
Posted by: Alberto | Jan 9, 2015 8:30:07 PM | 91

Germaine Lindsey July 7th 2005
Germaine was apparently the wife of the “White Widow” of “Islamic terrorism” (even though her daddy was a Brit Army Sargent) Samantha Lewthwaite, currently alleged to have been killed by a russian sniper in Ukraine of all places, if you’re stupid enough to believe such nonsense
The 7/7 London Bombings and MI5′s “Stepford Four” Operation: How the 2005 London Bombings Turned every Muslim into a “Terror Suspect”

Police claimed that they then found the identity cards of three of the men, which they could connect to the various blasts:

  • a Mohammad Sidique Khan at Edgware,
  • a Shezad Tanweer at Aldgate, and
  • Hasib Hussain, on the bus.
    Police claimed that all were “clean skins” or, unknown to the police. (Scotland Yard was embarrassed when Nicholas Sarkozy, then French Minister of the Interior, publicly reminded them that Khan and Tanweer had been known through their “Operation Crevice”.)
    After the announcement, police noted that Khan’s body was not to be found at the Edgware Road site where he was supposed to have died. (BBC, 7, 2005)
    Only his ID, which was subsequently found on the bus and, reportedly also at Aldgate.
    Tanweer’s ID, was not only found at Aldgate, but also on the bus, which exploded almost an hour after he was supposed to have died.
    Police did not bother with ID cards of others also found at the sites.

Posted by: Rogan Josh | Jan 10 2015 1:56 utc | 93

“Charlie Hebdo’s editor-in-chief Gerard Biard remarked he didn’t “understand how people can attack a newspaper with heavy weapons. A newspaper is not a weapon of war.”
“A Newspaper is not a weapon of War”?
Since WHEN?

Posted by: Rogan Josh | Jan 10 2015 2:06 utc | 94

Germaine was apparently the wife
Husband . . . obviously . . .

Posted by: Rogan Josh | Jan 10 2015 2:21 utc | 95

arnold toynbee
*To most Europeans, I guess, America now looks like
the most dangerous country in the world. Since America
is unquestionably the most powerful country, the
transformation of America’s image within the last thirty
years is very frightening for Europeans. It is probably
still more frightening for the great majority of the
human race who are neither Europeans nor North
Americans, but are Latin Americans, Asians and Africans.
They, I imagine, feel even more insecure than we feel.
They feel that, at any moment, America may intervene in
their internal affairs with the same appalling
consequences as have followed from American intervention
in Southeast Asia.”
For the world as a whole, the CIA has now become the
bogey that Communism has been for America. Wherever
there is trouble, violence, suffering, tragedy, the rest
of us are now quick to suspect the CIA had a hand in it.
Our phobia about the CIA is, no doubt, as fantastically
excessive as America’s phobia about world Communism;
but in this case, too, there is just enough convincing
guidance to make the phobia genuine. In fact, the roles
of America and Russia have been reversed in the world’s
eyes. Today America has become the world’s nightmare.
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/ST/STchp2.txt

Posted by: denk | Jan 10 2015 2:49 utc | 96

Bill Donohue comments on the killing of 12 people at the Paris office of the newspaper Charlie Hebdo:
Killing in response to insult, no matter how gross, must be unequivocally condemned. That is why what happened in Paris cannot be tolerated. But neither should we tolerate the kind of intolerance that provoked this violent reaction.
Those who work at this newspaper have a long and disgusting record of going way beyond the mere lampooning of public figures, and this is especially true of their depictions of religious figures. For example, they have shown nuns masturbating and popes wearing condoms. They have also shown Muhammad in pornographic poses.
While some Muslims today object to any depiction of the Prophet, others do not. Moreover, visual representations of him are not proscribed by the Koran. What unites Muslims in their anger against Charlie Hebdo is the vulgar manner in which Muhammad has been portrayed. What they object to is being intentionally insulted over the course of many years. On this aspect, I am in total agreement with them.
Stephane Charbonnier, the paper’s publisher, was killed today in the slaughter. It is too bad that he didn’t understand the role he played in his tragic death. In 2012, when asked why he insults Muslims, he said, “Muhammad isn’t sacred to me.” Had he not been so narcissistic, he may still be alive. Muhammad isn’t sacred to me, either, but it would never occur to me to deliberately insult Muslims by trashing him.
Anti-Catholic artists in this country have provoked me to hold many demonstrations, but never have I counseled violence. This, however, does not empty the issue. Madison was right when he said, “Liberty may be endangered by the abuses of liberty as well as the abuses of power.”

Posted by: neretva43 | Jan 10 2015 3:20 utc | 97

After rhapsodizing on Enlightenment and the nature of satire, it’s back to our regularly scheduled programming —
Bedlam, Banderastan & Beyond
Things seem to be moving right along towards a “Night of the Long Knives” in Kiev.
Over at Fort Russ, J. Hawk continues to find interesting articles and provide intelligent commentary. Semen Semenchenko has now come onto the radar.
Fort Russ’s first report on 5 Jan., Will there be a “Night of Long Knives” in Ukraine?, was interesting enough, detailing the possible use of inquiries into the debacle at Ilovaisk as payback. I thought originally that Hawk’s commentary that it signaled the desire of the undisciplined volunteer commanders actually responsible for Ilovaisk wanted to be rid of the military professionals was a bit slim of reed on which to hang a projection of a “Rohm putsch.” So I passed on posting it.
But lo and behold, better evidence was not long in coming. Even if Hawk mixes metaphors between postings, as you’ll see.
Russia Insider reposted with some nice pics Is Poroshenko prepared for battle?, by Anton Mardasov, detailing the cannibalization of spares from large stocks of Soviet-era armor in preparation for a renewed offensive. Armor is adequate, materials/component problems limit new production but some Soviet-era can be revived. Small arms pose no problem, but the lack of aircraft plants severely limits the available air power.
Hawk’s comment that “The recent statements by Semenchenko and the various Right Sector commanders suggest they are at least toying with the idea of striking while the Ukrainian army and police are in a weakened state” peaked my interest. I’ve posted earlier comments, as have others, by Rada Deputy Bereza, a “volunteer battalion commander,” and other rightists, but Semen Semenchenko was unfamiliar.
So I Googled him and found this, posted earlier this week at Fort Russ, Commander-deputy Semenchenko: Ukrainian soldiers need war.
The article from Ukraina.ru begins by noting the growing demoralization of the army, and Semenchenko’s view that the volunteers are opposed to it. It then quotes him as saying “All of this is received very badly on the front lines. Units are demoralized because if they are not in action they get bored, and then everyone wants to just go home. The volunteers, on the other hand, are determined to defend their land, but even they have limits.” Semenchenko also says they’re expecting Am. anti-tank weapons soon.
Hawk says of this:

“Semenchenko is making what amounts to a veiled threat against the Kiev government — either you send us to war, or we overthrow the government…. Therefore the “volunteers” may be planning a coup that would take advantage of the dire state of the military (Semenchenko is likely not exaggerating when he says the regular army is less well motivated than the “volunteers” — as much was suggested by other Ukrainian military sources in the past), or they are being used by the oligarchs who are funding them to pressure Poroshenko into unspecified concessions.”

Mobilization of additional reservists and conscripts suggests war is likely one way or the other. Hawk’s comments here are worth a look.
Further on whole question of “Who’s on first” in Kiev
Fort Russ also has this, Dmitry Brovkin’s Will Poroshenko be toppled by Kolomoisky’s Right Sector? Not only will Poroshenko go, arrested and tried by his former PM and War Minister, (or possibly by an assassination blamed Russian Federation security forces, thinks Hawk), the re-stocked junta will move to war with Russia.

The appearance of unity which the President has been relentlessly promoting by giving Yatsenyuk the Prime Ministership and Turchinov the National Defense Secretary position, and with expanded authority at that, will soon backfire on Poroshenko in the form of an actual war with Kolomoisky. And that war is unavoidable….
The expected public refusal of the Right Sector to become part of the Armed Forces should be considered the gauntlet thrown down by Kolomoisky before Poroshenko.
This means that the currently most combat-effective personal army of Kolomoisky is not taking orders of the Commander in Chief, but is ready to follow any order of National Defense secretary Turchinov.

Here’s where Hawk’s Translator’s Note shifts metaphors. Maybe we’ll get a two-fer, fire and putsch!

“The most unlikely part of the scenario is the attempt to provoke Russia into a war…. However, the outlined plot against Poroshenko rings true. Poroshenko is indeed being isolated and marginalized, and even though he is the Commander in Chief, he does not have exclusive control over the whole spectrum of the country’s means of violence….The recent deployment of National Guard to Odessa, for no apparent reasons, may have been a rehearsal of this operation. The window of opportunity to overthrow Poroshenko has opened. Now all one needs is a ‘Reichstag fire.'”

So with apologies to Mel Brooks —

Springtime for Yatsenuk and Ukrainia
Winter for Lugansk and Donbas
We’re marching to a faster pace
Look out here comes a basket case!…
Don’t be stupid
Be a smarty
Come and join
The Freedom Party!


Hey, you don’t think that’s funny, how about this Yatsenyuk: “I will not allow the Russians to march across Ukraine and Germany, as they did in WWII.”
All else is one step beyond Madness. These lads from No. London will stand you a pint, mates. Cheers.

Posted by: rufus magister | Jan 10 2015 3:44 utc | 98

Russian Spring
01/09/2015-20:26
Evening message of Information Center of Novorossia:
Firing at combatants’ positions continued through the day.
From a site of city Schast`e (Lugansk Republic) mortars struck positions near settlement Veselaya Gora (Merry Mount) – 13 km north of Lugansk.
A combatants’ outpost in area of Stanitsa-Luganskaya (Lugansk Republic) was shelled by artillery, then by mortars.
From direction of settlements Peski and Opitnoye, cannons, mortars, small arms fired at combatants defending frontiers in area of Donetsk airport. Also fire was directed at positions near mine Oktyabr`skaya (north-west outskirts of Donetsk).
A residential sector of district Kuybishevskiy of Donetsk also bore brunt of artillery fire.
In the aftermath of bombardment, two combatants reported wounded.

Posted by: Fete | Jan 10 2015 4:02 utc | 99

errata to 98 —
The article from Ukraina.ru begins by noting the growing demoralization of the army idled by the Minsk talks, and Semenchenko’s view that the volunteers are opposed to them.

Posted by: rufus magister | Jan 10 2015 4:04 utc | 100