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January 04, 2015

Children, Extremist Ideas And The British Establishment - Updated


The Independent is on the same story the Telegraph has on noticing the authorities of toddler terrorism indoctrination. The presentation of the story makes it clear what the concerns are about.


The caption to the picture reads:

Nursery school employees will have a duty to report young children who are at-risk of becoming terrorists under proposed new legislation

With nursery staff like those depicted the threat of terror toddlers may indeed come true. But can such staff be expected to report to authorities other than their Caliph?

Original post follows here

The British government has been taken over by lunacy reports the Telegraph:

Nursery school staff and registered childminders must report toddlers at risk of becoming terrorists, under counter-terrorism measures proposed by the Government.

The directive is contained in a 39-page consultation document issued by the Home Office in a bid to bolster its Prevent anti-terrorism plan.
The document accompanies the Counter-Terrorism and Security Bill, currently before parliament. It identifies nurseries and early years childcare providers, along with schools and universities, as having a duty “to prevent people being drawn into terrorism”.

The consultation paper adds: “Senior management and governors should make sure that staff have training that gives them the knowledge and confidence to identify children at risk of being drawn into terrorism and challenge extremist ideas which can be used to legitimise terrorism and are shared by terrorist groups.

“They should know where and how to refer children and young people for further help.”

"Refer to further help ..." What might such "help" include? Some hints to such "help" may be disguised in some other Telegraph headlines:

A central registration for unruly young children "terrorists" might come in handy when the British establishment is looking for new material for its seemingly favorite pastime.

One wonders who came up with this idea ...

Posted by b on January 4, 2015 at 16:45 UTC | Permalink


Or maybe the intent of the program is to identify potential terrorists so that they can be fast-tracked into positions of leadership with the military, intelligence services, banks, and parliament?

Posted by: JohnH | Jan 4 2015 17:38 utc | 1

Another example of "the previously unimaginable becoming normalized within 5 years," during the insane GWOT....

Posted by: Steve | Jan 4 2015 17:44 utc | 2

Total control of parents.

Posted by: Peter Hofmann | Jan 4 2015 17:51 utc | 3

- It's like one George Bush has put it: You're with us or you're against us (or something along those lines).
- Seems the british establishment is TRULY worried about the rise of muslim influence in England.

Posted by: Willy2 | Jan 4 2015 18:49 utc | 4

Ummm...well... how else does ZWO deploy goyim sheep? If they can't be co-opted into the child sex trade -- what are goys good for -- but terrorism or mercenaries?

Fee-Fie-Foe-Fum. I smell the blood of an Englishman. Or at least one with Euro-trash bloodlines. Maybe we'll get pics of British royalty diddling children this week. Juxtaposed with pics of them skiing in Switzerland. They make it hard not to hate them. For they have surely "abdicated" their claim to humanity. Particularly heinous acts against children. Beneath contempt. BDS. Each day. Choose to deny them sanctuary where REAL humans dwell.

Posted by: giddy | Jan 4 2015 19:22 utc | 5

"What might such "help" include? Some hints to such "help" may be disguised in some other Telegraph headlines: "

I take your point although ,I think, what they mean by "help" is, as in all police states, to turn children into informers on their parents, relatives, neighbors, older siblings etc.,..Its an old story and the "exceptional" west as it sinks into petty (and so banal and predictable) despotism and the fascist dictatorship of the finance capital aristocracy is following in the footsteps of al the others it once held up to its people as examples of tyranny.

Posted by: 1968ES330 | Jan 4 2015 21:03 utc | 6

program will never make it in the usa b/c you inevitably get drawn into terrorism as soon as you start paying federal taxes

Posted by: b real | Jan 4 2015 21:54 utc | 7

@Peter Hofmann no 3

I agree. The subtext is to use the kids as a basis to go after the parents.

Posted by: sleepy | Jan 4 2015 22:36 utc | 8

The Pedophocracy by David McGowan

I stumbled upon this article while looking for some info on Craig Spence. He was "suicided" after being accused of running a child prostitution ring in the late 80's that involved top officials in the Reagan/BushI administration.

This article is the most comprehensive writing that I have come across yet regarding child prostitution and pornography and goes a long way to explaining who/what is involved. It is very a lengthy read and it has several parts but has some excellent information in it.

Hopefully it will be useful to some of the people looking into the GannonGuckert story.

I know nothing about David McGowin but this article seems very credible, I'm posting a very small snip here. Let me know what you think.

In September 2001, the Scottish Daily Record reported that a “Salvation Army couple working on a British army base have been arrested in a massive paedophile crackdown.” Seized from the couple’s home were “some 400 videotapes … computers, discs, photographs and other material … images of children as young as two have been found.” The same report claimed “a massive vice probe into kiddie porn in the USA would expose some of the biggest names in Hollywood as paedophiles. A federal investigation, codenamed Operation Avalanche, has already resulted in over 100 arrests – and the US Department of Justice say there will be hundreds more, including celebrities.” Lori Rabjohns, identified as a Justice Department spokeswoman, was quoted as saying: “These are people who appear upstanding members of society … We’re talking doctors, lawyers – and celebrities.”

The investigation came about as a result of a raid on the Ft. Worth, Texas home of Thomas and Janice Reedy, who had been operating a business called Landslide Productions, which offered child pornography for sale over the Internet. The Reedy’s website, according to the Independent, functioned as a portal to “more than 5,700 websites with names such as Child Rape and Cyber Lolita.” The Reedys had made millions of dollars from their child porn business, which “employed more than a dozen staff, including a customer service representative and a receptionist.” This financial empire was built with “money raised from the torture, rape and sexual abuse of children as young as two.”

Conspiracy Of Silence

Conspiracy of Silence, a documentary listed for viewing in TV Guide Magazine was to be aired on the Discovery Channel, on May 3, 1994. This documentary exposed a network of religious leaders and Washington politicians who flew children to Washington D.C. for sex orgies.

Many children suffered the indignity of wearing nothing but their underwear and a number displayed on a piece of cardboard hanging from their necks when being auctioned off to foreigners in Las Vegas, Nevada and Toronto, Canada.

At the last minute before airing, unknown congressmen threatened the TV Cable industry with restrictive legislation if this documentary was aired. Almost immediately, the rights to the documentary were purchased by unknown persons who had ordered all copies destroyed.

A copy of this videotape was furnished anonymously to former Nebraska state senator and attorney John De Camp who made it available to retired FBI Agent Ted L. Gunderson. While the video quality is not top grade, this tape is a blockbuster in what is revealed by the participants involved.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jan 4 2015 23:54 utc | 9

Imo this is more about "adult" politicians addicted to dangerously childish behaviour than about infants suspected of having dangerous ideas. Citizens should be able to sack politicians for whom, despite wasting space for 30, 40, 50 and more years, have proved themselves incapable of Growing Up.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jan 5 2015 2:55 utc | 10

"Nursery school staff and registered childminders must report toddlers at risk of becoming terrorists"

A news which is extremely funny and extremely horrible at the same time.

Posted by: Aka | Jan 5 2015 4:41 utc | 11

"It is understood ministers will expect nursery staff to report for example, anti-Semitic comments made in front of them by toddlers."

From the Telegraph article.

Posted by: fairleft | Jan 5 2015 6:29 utc | 12

"the Home Office in a bid to bolster its Prevent anti-terrorism plan"

So the plan is to prevent anti-terrorism? Well, that is honest. It seems to fit in well with the war of terror against Iraq and the provision of training for ISIS.

Posted by: Anon E Mouse | Jan 5 2015 13:45 utc | 13

Sure, it makes total sense to keep an eye on those toddlers, running around with a stink bomb package around their pelvis. They are a threat to society, and we all know these 3-yr old toddlers are sick antisemites!

No but seriously, this is just disgusting and sick paranoia.

Posted by: Anonymous | Jan 5 2015 14:59 utc | 14

gchq - the british nsa equivalent..

Posted by: james | Jan 5 2015 18:42 utc | 15

Of course this is ridiculous. I don't think I could make up something this silly if I tried.

And yet... England does have a problem with extremist Wahhabist nutjobs infiltrating the schools and trying to indoctrinate students in their culture of hate. The solution would have been to not let extremists who preach hatred of Jews and Christians and Women and Homosexuals and other Islamic sects etc.etc. into the country, and not let them run schools. But it's too late for that. So this is just a pathetic psuedo-Orewllian bandaid that will do nothing - when a school has been taken over by Wahhabists, the staff will be Wahhabist and of course they will not report anything.

As to whether or not people should be afraid of reactionary Saudi-funded Wahhabist radicals, well, why not? Would you like to live in Pakistan? Not even the Pakistanis want to live in Pakistan, and the should know! And just because someone claims the protection of religion, preaching hatred of Jews and Christians and women etc.etc. is still preaching hate. Just like the Spanish Inquisition was still vile even though they claimed to be following Christ.

It's like Karl Popper said: a tolerant society cannot tolerate intolerance - even if it claims to be a religion.

Posted by: TG | Jan 5 2015 18:49 utc | 16

@16 tg.. what about all the hatred expressed towards moslems in the west? you only have 1/2 the scenario.. pick up a newspaper sometime and check it out!

Posted by: james | Jan 5 2015 19:43 utc | 17

Good to see The Independent treating Toddler Ter'rism with the contempt it deserves. Now all we need is for the MSM to ask the UK Govt whether it's possible that Arabs might/coulda been 'radicalised' by NATO bombing Muslim countries back to the Stone Age and mass-murdering & torturing their citizens for specious reasons?

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jan 6 2015 2:36 utc | 18

hahahaha!! George W Bush is a perfect example of how this cannot work. Cheerful, ball-playing, subsidized housing (for the white wealthy in TX), draft-dodging, All-American Ivy League drunken coke-snorting etc. But turned out to be the biggest f-ing terrorist yet, even went to bin Laden weddings, had Xmas with them, flew their asses out of the US on 9-11, etc.
Yes, it is all about turning in your family and nabbing who the gov't doesn't like. But even that couldn't have stopped the toddler in Idaho from murdering his mom in a WalMart last week... huh.
toddlers. go figure.
unbelievable. but how do you stop militias from overrunning their flimsy govt's overseas? STOP ARMING THEM. the UK and US can't go THAT far!

Posted by: anon | Jan 6 2015 3:52 utc | 19

speaking of Idaho, isn't the US hosting some military pilot training facility for Saudis in Idaho?
seems kinda hypocritical if you ask me, and I know that's not the UK, but close enough.
the point is, if you are arming wahabis and partying down with them, and helping them invade other countries, how crazy are you to worry about babies questioning their christianity in preschool?
I'd say it doesn't get any crazier, but then I hear that if you try to imitate US moves in Gambia, you face serious penalties here. how is a toddler to make sense of it?

Posted by: anon | Jan 6 2015 4:07 utc | 20

All you need is a few nursery school teachers throwing a press conference and announcing that they were given quotas of reporting two kids per class (thus destroying their lives), and that they decided that the most moral way to do this was randomly. The outrage of parents fearing their own toddlers selection would shut this down ASAP.

Posted by: Bob M. | Jan 6 2015 5:36 utc | 21

The Pledge – the preliminary object or action;
The Turn- the action or the deed that misdirects and distracts the audience from the true purpose of the trick;The Prestige- the final reveal which leaves them spellbound indifferent.

“Now you’re looking for the secret. But you won’t find it because of course, you’re not really looking. You don’t really want to work it out. You want to be fooled…” – Cutter

Cantos Cautivos (Captive Songs)

A digital archive documenting music from the torture chambers, concentration camps and prisons of the former Chilean dictator General Augusto Pinochet is available to the public for the first time.

The online 'torture soundtrack', launching on 8 January 2015, is called Cantos Cautivos (Captive Songs) and includes songs written, sung and listened to in political detention – and the stories behind them.

It is the brainchild of Dr Katia Chornik - who herself is from Chile - a researcher at The University of Manchester's Music Department and the first scholar to investigate music under political detention in Chile.

When Pinochet seized power in 1973, the majority of the almost 40,000 political opponents imprisoned in over 1,000 detention centres suffered gruesome physical and psychological torture. Some of Pinochet's torture practices employed music and relate to CIA techniques.

Lest ye forget; Mr. Secretary, is it [the] policy of the U.S. Government to reward companies that traffic in women and little girls?

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jan 6 2015 7:39 utc | 22

TG said:
"And yet... England does have a problem with extremist Wahhabist nutjobs infiltrating the schools ... The solution would have been to not let extremists ... into the country ..."

Not quite.
The desired outcome: A Soviet Republic of England.
The solution: Total chaos + totalitarian remedies.
The sponsors: High finance as in

"Dear Mr. President:
I am in sympathy with the Soviet form of government as that best suited
for the Russian people..."

Letter to President Woodrow Wilson (October 17, 1918) from William
Lawrence Saunders, chairman, Ingersoll-Rand Corp.; director, American
International Corp.; and deputy chairman, Federal Reserve Bank of New York

Quoted from: Sutton - Wall Street And The Bolshevik Revolution.

Posted by: Christoph (German) | Jan 6 2015 16:01 utc | 23

Classified Videos Allegedly Show U.S. Soldiers Raping Boys In Front Of Their Mothers (IMAGES)

Kind of a sensationalized title, also, Seymour Hersh, is an enigma to me... However, having said that, I'm sure the title is the dark, grim meathook reality of today.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jan 6 2015 16:58 utc | 24

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