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December 21, 2014
Open Thread 2014-32
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the NYPD has gone off the rails over the shooting of two police officers by a deranged man who also killed his girlfriend and himself. the NYPD has declared itself a ‘wartime’ police department and is now in open insurrection against the Mayor. I wonder where this will go. Posted by: lizard | Dec 21 2014 17:14 utc | 1 As usual, the American media and governmental elites are experiencing group-think elation over Russia’s economic problems. Far be it from their noticing downsides, lest it rain on their triumphalist parade. Posted by: JohnH | Dec 21 2014 20:14 utc | 2 So the New York Police, by murdering unarmed suspects, have done nothing to provoke rage or violence against them, but those calling for reforms and justice are provoking violence? Posted by: ralphieboy | Dec 21 2014 20:45 utc | 3
○ Berlin: 30,000 gather for demonstration International Green Week | Jan. 2014 | ○ TTIP Treaty to be Signed – Super NAFTA Undermines Democracy The US has weaponized the banking system, financials in sanctions on third countries. Obama used NATO policy in Europe to anger the Russians on Ukraine by means of the “Maidan Revolt.” This moves Europe away from further economic integration (and peace) with Russia. Obama needed this to get a positive response from the EU on the stagnation of the proposals of the free-trade agreement wkich will enslave European workers to US labor standards. It will also loosen food and energy regulation and offer Monsanto/Union Carbide/US fracking corporations an opporunity to raid the European continent. @2
Not only Russian banks have creditors … and now the Too Big Too Fail failures’ depositors and the wildly underfunded FDIC are set up to take the fall for Obama’s ‘stupid stuff’ with the Saudis, crashing the world oil market. Posted by: jfl | Dec 21 2014 21:31 utc | 8 @8 The Saudis say they won’t be cutting production. What they don’t say is that they have lower production costs than the other big producers (Russia, US, Canada and Norway) Posted by: dh | Dec 21 2014 22:00 utc | 9 @8: “The Too Big Too Fail failures’ depositors and the wildly underfunded FDIC are set up to take the fall for Obama’s ‘stupid stuff’.” Posted by: JohnH | Dec 21 2014 22:10 utc | 10 Meanwhile, while everyone is distracted w/ Holidays and spectacle’s of a methodical breakdown of collective society, they decide to dump this, as shallow a report as I have ever seen, however… Report: FBI’s Anthrax Investigation Was Flawed Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 21 2014 23:29 utc | 11 As to Lizard’s #1 … Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 21 2014 23:49 utc | 12 The NYPD has expanded into a massive global anti-terror operation with military capabilities
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 21 2014 23:59 utc | 13 Just went from rural Philippines, where you are either a farmer, fisherman, jeepney driver or corner shop owner, where solar power and efficient motors might just save civilization, such as it is with no municipal services … to downtown Taipei in a single long day of travel, at the height of Xmas, here in the most densely high tech, Blade Runner infrastructure imaginable, you have to wonder at the tsunamai effect their energy demand will create once the Saudis wipe out the juniors, wipe out the big oil equities, wipe out their overleveraged credit markets, wipe out Canada, Russia, Iran oil production, the jack prices back to $140, the greatestest Trillionaire Triad Mafia the world has ever known, the greatest never sunset hot money conflagration in history …and the news is all about The Interview and Two Dead Cops. Posted by: Chip Nihk | Dec 22 2014 0:21 utc | 14 @14 The Saudis need to be careful. They probably think keeping their billions in the City of London gives them a pass. But the big oil companies aren’t happy. They are putting a lot of people out of work in Texas, Alberta and the North Sea. Posted by: dh | Dec 22 2014 1:22 utc | 15 Russian Spring Posted by: Fete | Dec 22 2014 3:34 utc | 16 Oui– thanks for all the TTIP links. The US MCM (Mainstream Corporate Media) has been amazingly silent on this topic. NPR mentioned it briefly when “covering” the omnibus budget bill passed in mid-December (the one giving the Too Big To Fail banks financial cover to gamble as much as they want, as in Banksters just wanna have fun…at others’ expense for any losses, of course. Posted by: jawbone | Dec 22 2014 5:26 utc | 17 A Cuban blog maintained by an exile from New York
Hope she’s right. Posted by: ruralito | Dec 22 2014 6:09 utc | 18 Video Shows NYC Protesters Chanting for “Dead Cops” @10 Posted by: really | Dec 22 2014 11:47 utc | 21 Putin’s philosopher: https://irrussianality.wordpress.com/2014/12/22/putins-philosopher/ Posted by: KMF | Dec 22 2014 14:11 utc | 22 @Oui #5 Posted by: c1ue | Dec 22 2014 15:08 utc | 23 Thought for the day from Penny: http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.com/ Posted by: ben | Dec 22 2014 16:16 utc | 25 Must-read AlterNet article by academics Walter Dean Burnham and Thomas Ferguson on the collapse of U.S. political system. Using voter participation data from the 2014 midterms, Burnham and Ferguson argue that Dems and Republicans are whistling past the graveyard if they think they can maintain business as usual. Turnout dropped so low in many states it reached depths not seen in 200 years, before their was universal male suffrage and when property ownership was a requirement to vote. Posted by: Mike Maloney | Dec 22 2014 16:58 utc | 26 I ben, don’t know which thought you were linking too and I went and updated on you 🙂 @20. NYPD is infamous – as are the FBI – for using Agents provacateurs and then surfacing “evidence” through selective promotion of media stories. Posted by: Jeremiah Cornelius | Dec 22 2014 19:02 utc | 28 @21–According to one industry insider, the speculators were not just the banks. The key manipulators were the US government with the Saudis. Posted by: JohnH | Dec 22 2014 20:56 utc | 29 Thanks to #19 for the link to the “little story” about the protesters in NYC chanting they want dead cops. An attack on police is an attack on all decent people. Posted by: sea salt | Dec 22 2014 21:04 utc | 30 Collapsing Oil Prices and US-Saudi Deal About the headline events of the year: Any one with a deep interest in not just the JFK assassination, but also the times and personalities surrounding it – including Nazi Reinhard Gehlen who led the West German Secretr Police in the post-War period – really ought to check out this amazing recorded course from UC Santa Cruz by Dan Sheehan. Posted by: guest77 | Dec 22 2014 23:16 utc | 33 Posted by: Oui | Dec 22, 2014 4:46:57 PM | 30 Posted by: Cold N. Holefield | Dec 22 2014 23:24 utc | 34 “You’d be surprised who reads my blog.” Posted by: guest77 | Dec 23 2014 0:34 utc | 35 I had heard neither of this blog nor of this philosopher, but I find this blog post interesting:
Sounds pretty Hegelian to me.
Both of them have been going on about the importance of Ukrainian territorial integrity lately. from 1 day ago Khazin on schizophrenic Government Polices.. khazin’s talk covers the ongoing issue the russian central bank plays in the present situation russia is experiencing.. Posted by: james | Dec 23 2014 3:19 utc | 37 from 1 day ago Posted by: james | Dec 23 2014 3:21 utc | 38 double post as i didn’t see the first one post.. oh well.. Posted by: james | Dec 23 2014 3:23 utc | 39 File Dannie Sheehan with the Hitler escaped in a flying saucer crowd. Posted by: and or | Dec 23 2014 4:17 utc | 40 Commentary: Sporadic clashes reported in Donetsk and Debal`tsevo. Posted by: Fete | Dec 23 2014 4:31 utc | 41 Penny @ 26: Twas’ the Bertrand Russell snipet. Wishing you and all here a happy holiday season:) Posted by: ben | Dec 23 2014 4:33 utc | 42 a happy holiday season Worth the read. Posted by: STOPTHEHYPOCRISY | Dec 23 2014 6:03 utc | 45 Why is it everytime there is a pending gargantuan bailout being considered, there is some kind of sensational story that is pimped 24/7 on the msm national news oulets. For those that don’t know, I will humbly attempt to enlighten thee. The cops who were gunned down in New York City by a suicidal gunmen who also killed his girlfriend is a perfect example of distracting the masses then kick their asses. By the time it all said vand done the taxpayers around the globe will be stuck with the over speculated (leveraged) egregious oil derivatives bill. This is the same bullcrap scam pulled with the subprime mortgage “crisis”. Also expect the criminals to ask for a restart of Quantitative Easing (QE)…I guess they have completed the task of changing the ink in the printing presses. Absolutely criminal and fiscally irresponsible in my opinion. Posted by: really | Dec 23 2014 6:18 utc | 46 @Demian #42 Posted by: Monolycus | Dec 23 2014 6:25 utc | 47 in re 42 — Posted by: rufus magister | Dec 23 2014 6:36 utc | 48 News from Banderastan.
Posted by: rufus magister | Dec 23 2014 6:48 utc | 49 U$ @ 12 — Posted by: rufus magister | Dec 23 2014 7:02 utc | 50 De Blasio’s Dilemma
○ Federal judge ruled stop-and-frisk tactics of the New York Police Department violated the constitutional rights of minorities @c1ue #23 – thanks for the interesting website @rufus magister #48: @rufus magister: @rufus magister: Posted by: Jeremiah Cornelius | Dec 22, 2014 2:02:26 PM | 27 “…6. USA Posted by: Not drinking da kiewlaide | Dec 23 2014 8:55 utc | 58 Posted by: kernaljessup | Dec 23, 2014 4:29:39 AM | 59 Posted by: really | Dec 23 2014 10:30 utc | 59 58, 59 Posted by: NDDK | Dec 23 2014 10:59 utc | 60 “A Ukrainian air force Su-25 combat jet took off from an airbase in eastern Dnipropetrovsk carrying air-to-air missiles and returned without them on the day the Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 crashed in eastern Ukraine, Komsomolskaya Pravda newspaper reports, citing an airbase employee. . . . Posted by: x | Dec 23 2014 11:23 utc | 61 So now Ukraine seek to be part of NATO.Too bad for Ukraine that NATO disagree. Posted by: Anonymous | Dec 23 2014 12:04 utc | 62 UN ATT will come into force on Christmas eve, Dec. 24, 2014.
risible! Posted by: brian | Dec 23 2014 13:03 utc | 64 BREAKING NEWS: Was just about to post the bit of news from #64. Posted by: ralphieboy | Dec 23 2014 14:38 utc | 66 @19, Nothing wrong with killing police. The bad ones get away with murder; the “good” ones don’t do anything about it. In any trial the prosecution appears for the defense; the cop walks. Posted by: ruralito | Dec 23 2014 15:04 utc | 68 Demian, Posted by: ralphieboy | Dec 23 2014 15:24 utc | 69 Is Fairleft going to apologize now that it’s been shown that the clip showing protestors chanting to kill cops was edited by a local Baltimore FOX affiliate, to make a harmless chant about killer cops being put in jail, to a a chant to kill cops. Posted by: pataphys | Dec 23 2014 16:12 utc | 70 @ralphieboy #68: @Oui #53 Posted by: c1ue | Dec 23 2014 16:40 utc | 72 there is a tsunami taking place in Yemen, the Saudi proxies have been comprehensive beaten by the allies ofIran and Eritrea, yet not much about his in the MSM, any reason? Posted by: papa | Dec 23 2014 17:28 utc | 73 @19 @69 See. You have to develop an instinct for this kind of thing. There’s no one, single “smoking gun” or consistent “tell” that is an indicator of universal certainty. Disinformation agents – intentional or otherwise – are always certain and usually urgent. Posted by: Jeremiah Cornelius | Dec 23 2014 18:16 utc | 74 On Yemen, not in the MSM … On Statfor website (know as the private CIA for large companies) its chairman, a born neocon, has written that the US started the coup in the Ukraine. One of its board members is either the husband or brother in law (I’m not sure which) of Nuland who hand picked the new Ukraine leaders and handed out cookies in the square. I wonder if all the big companies in the US that are Stator clients are getting ticked at Obama and his sanctions? Posted by: lah | Dec 23 2014 22:39 utc | 76 @73 Posted by: jfl | Dec 23 2014 22:56 utc | 77 @lah Demian, for the sake of consistency with your ideological viewpoint, let us assume that the Ukrainian government is run by Nazis. But they had those bombs fair and square by default after the USSR collapsed. We should not break promises, even to western-supported Nazis. Our word is our solemn bond. Posted by: ralphieboy | Dec 23 2014 22:58 utc | 79 @jfl MOA has reached a new low, comments approving of killing police, siting Dan Sheehan, the Gawker and “gut feelings” as reliable sources of information, and day after day of comments trying to outdo each other with their political insight and righteous indignation. Enough crap to drive B to drink. Posted by: Ward Bond | Dec 23 2014 23:12 utc | 81 Ralphieboy Posted by: Anonymous | Dec 23 2014 23:50 utc | 82 @lah #75 Posted by: c1ue | Dec 24 2014 0:20 utc | 83 @c1ue #82: Happy Holidays MoA’ers Posted by: lizard | Dec 24 2014 2:04 utc | 85 His Ward is his Bond. Posted by: guest77 | Dec 24 2014 2:16 utc | 86 in re nr. 54 Posted by: rufus magister | Dec 24 2014 2:17 utc | 87 Ralphieboy suggests nuclear proliferation to an extremely unstable state that is dangling on the edge of economic collapse, has recently suffered a violent change of government, and is in the midst of a civil war. For “our honor”. Posted by: guest77 | Dec 24 2014 2:20 utc | 88 Dan Sheehan is a pretty accomplished lawyer and one of the more effective people standing up to the US Government in the legal world. Posted by: guest77 | Dec 24 2014 2:31 utc | 89 in re nr. 56
I had wisecrack or two about it in my earlier post, but it’s the holidays. Posted by: rufus magister | Dec 24 2014 2:38 utc | 90 Shit flinging monkeys – I like that, cute. But thanks to Lizard for his poem, his contributions to MOA always have value. Posted by: Ward Bond | Dec 24 2014 2:38 utc | 91 So the suicidal wealthy morons that run the globe and the shill that pimp that death wish are crowing for war with the Russian Federation. Well mayber these fools need to be taken to the remotest desert of their choice tied to posts and I personally will accompany the flight crew that will detonate a Fat Boy II on thier sorry anihalist arses. I think this is the best way to avert total destruction of the planet. Otherwise someone stop the Earth at the nearest depot, this brother wants off the crazy train. Posted by: pataphys | Dec 23, 2014 11:12:24 AM | 69 Another police killing in… Ferguson! Posted by: Anonymous | Dec 24 2014 8:33 utc | 95 Interesting reading. I suggest everyone to bread and familiarize yourself with this technology your very existence may depend on how much you know about the aspects and applications of nanotechnology good and bad. Jordan plane shot down, pilot taken by ISIS Posted by: Anonymous | Dec 24 2014 11:27 utc | 97 ust read the article below and I whole heartedly agree with the entire piece. What makes leaders and their oligarch handlers believe they are entitled to ruleover the entire world by means of financial thievery or nation ruining bloody wars? I feel these people are totally not of this planet bor totally blood thirsty, vile and insane. Why are western powers so against a multipolar veconomy and world? Why can’t they be honest and equitable players in finance and foreign policy? What traits do they lack that prevents them from being peaceful and instead threatening to start WWIII with Russia and its allies? Oh yes if the west thinks Russia is gonna be fighting by themselves they are truly inept and dangerous and should be moved to an asylum on the moon. Posted by: really | Dec 24 2014 14:25 utc | 98 Here is the link to the article I referenced in post 99. Posted by: really | Dec 24 2014 14:27 utc | 99 @Demian #85 Posted by: c1ue | Dec 24 2014 15:33 utc | 100 |
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