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December 11, 2014
Open Thread 2014-31
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@rufus magister #95: G@97 Posted by: Wayoutwest | Dec 14 2014 2:13 utc | 102 Were the Dutch leading the investigation into the crash of MH17? In his post giving the translation of the Glaziev paper, the Saker links to the following piece by an American consulting firm:
I guess the folks at Awara have stopped believing that “everyone benefits from knowing the true state of Russia’s economy”: they removed this report and the blog post about it. Down the memory hole. (The link I gave is to the Google cache of the blog post.) Maybe they got a call from the US embassy? Truth is one of the main problems for USG nowadays. Demian @ 101 — Posted by: rufus magister | Dec 14 2014 3:15 utc | 105 @Oi #103: In his post giving the translation of the Glaziev paper, the Saker links to the following piece by an American consulting firm:
I guess the folks at Awara have stopped believing that “everyone benefits from knowing the true state of Russia’s economy”: they removed this report and the blog post about it. Down the memory hole. (The link I gave is to the Google cache of the blog post.) Maybe they got a call from the US embassy? Truth is one of the main problems for USG nowadays. And while I’m here prattling on, something noteworthy. Again, from the always-informative folks at NewColdWar. A Ukrainian leftist reports on The political situation in odessa.
Posted by: rufus magister | Dec 14 2014 3:27 utc | 108 Russian Spring Posted by: Fete | Dec 14 2014 4:10 utc | 109 music – rufus/demian… Posted by: james | Dec 14 2014 4:49 utc | 110 james @ 109 — Posted by: rufus magister | Dec 14 2014 5:30 utc | 111 rufus – keys hey? cool. i have a lot of piano player friends. Posted by: james | Dec 14 2014 5:59 utc | 112 further to my 109 — Posted by: rufus magister | Dec 14 2014 6:02 utc | 113 @rufus magister #95, 104: the columbian example is not my thing, lol.. Posted by: james | Dec 14 2014 6:10 utc | 115 hey demian – lush – gala.. sounds pretty good.. hadn’t heard it before.. reminds me a bit like u2 with the constant strumming sound, lol.. 2nd track into this – not the same as u2 and a bit more reflective and dreamy without some big drum track jumping in the middle of the tune, lol.. Posted by: james | Dec 14 2014 6:37 utc | 116 Demian @ 112 — Posted by: rufus magister | Dec 14 2014 6:49 utc | 117 @james #114: To make myself clear: this is what I mean by rhythm: 115 rufus – girl from ipanema is very old! jobim hit.. they named the airport in rio de janiero after jobim.. jobim airport, lol.. he wrote that song in 1960 or thereabouts.. seu jorge has been around almost as long, lol..roy ayers.. now i see why you are saying you like vibes! they have a name for his music – i forget what it is called.. so many names for sounds and styles… Posted by: james | Dec 14 2014 8:56 utc | 120 demian, Posted by: james | Dec 14 2014 9:05 utc | 121 james, 25 Posted by: Chip Nihk | Dec 14 2014 12:54 utc | 123 Interesting comments at saker: Posted by: Anonymous | Dec 14 2014 15:13 utc | 124 Oui @ 83, Lubbers, yes quite. The link I posted was not good… I remain convinced that it was Mitterand’s (and before him others, e.g. V. Giscard d’Estaing..) hot desire for the Euro that sealed the re-unif. of D., but it is a matter of interpretation. Merkel was involved as well, Atlanticist since day one. Posted by: Noirette | Dec 14 2014 15:43 utc | 125 remember the cheonan ? Posted by: denk | Dec 14 2014 16:25 utc | 126 remember the cheonan ? Posted by: denk | Dec 14 2014 16:26 utc | 127 demian @120 thanks. re your last paragraph – that may be so.. it is hard to get inside a persons head to know how they view what they are doing philosophically which is what this would require. i therefore am not convinced of the generalizations broken down along national lines regarding the music. Posted by: james | Dec 14 2014 17:40 utc | 128 Here is the Atlantic Council on what Saudi Arabia might do in Yemen, and what they are worried Iran might do. Good analysis. Posted by: ess emm | Dec 14 2014 18:29 utc | 129
James@64 thanks for all your posts on Russian finance. I find it of great interest but then I’ve been following with rapt attention the slow motion train wreck that is the oil debacle. Perhaps the lack of response is due to the time of year- hard to balance holiday cheer with a gut full of storm warnings and the malfeasance of our Scrooge overlords.
I don’t know what to think of the situation with the CBR- there must be a growing call for their heads from the russian public? The global conspiracy to usher in the new world order came to mind- but I’m still catching up on my reading on the subject before I commit to wearing tin foil on my head. At any rate this is fascinating stuff and thank you for the posts- it will be interesting to see what unfolds before the May meeting on the Eurasian swift proposition. Posted by: Nana2007 | Dec 14 2014 20:34 utc | 131 Ron Paul on the Ukraine Freedom Support Act:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102248898?trknav=homestack:topnews:5 Posted by: Nana2007 | Dec 14 2014 22:05 utc | 133 This may seem a little alarmist but then who better to take over the White House in 2016?
http://www.ryot.org/opinion-ted-cruz-is-the-most-dangerous-man-in-america/423753 Posted by: Nana2007 | Dec 14 2014 22:31 utc | 134 I tried to sandwich James’ Evgeny Fedorov video between a couple of Michael Hudson’s offerings, the first from 1999. This ‘problem’ has been recognized for a long time. Posted by: jfl | Dec 15 2014 1:28 utc | 135 james 128 Posted by: denk | Dec 15 2014 3:01 utc | 136 Its hard to imagine what will happen to the US in a state of dollar collapse. It is going to be awful. The blame game will be furious – unions, the poor, foreigners, powers like Russia and China. Posted by: guest77 | Dec 15 2014 3:27 utc | 137 Oz’s MSM is ‘enjoying’ its very own (unresolved) Hostage Crisis in Sydney’s Martin Place right now. Traffic and transport are in chaos due to precautionary road closures and diversions. Sydney Opera House and the US Consulate and other nearby buildings and public spaces have been evacuated. We already know that it’s related to Bush & Obama (and BBC’s) Fake War On Terror because the hostage-takers hung a black banner inside one window of the site, the Lindt Coffee Shop, extolling the virtues of Allah and Mohammed. Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Dec 15 2014 3:51 utc | 138 Russian Spring Posted by: Fete | Dec 15 2014 4:12 utc | 139 Demian @ 122 et al. Posted by: rufus magister | Dec 15 2014 4:38 utc | 140 Having had my fun, it’s back to paying my bar tab. I passed by this at first, looking at the title, Former Ukrainian PM Elena Bondarenko’s Open Letter to the Citizens of the World. Oh, another open letter from a parliamentarian, how urgent could that be? But she reports on not only her own exclusion from the Rada for quesitioning the junta, she advises that “Every day, from his colleagues I learn of beatings of their aides, of attacks on their companies, of threats, yes, even attacks, on their lives, their health, their property…. The methods of the junta in their struggle for power… have nothing to do with any concept of ‘democracy.’ If the international community does nothing in the face of these egregious acts, it will look like complicity and silent approbation of all these crimes which are being committed in Ukraine.” Posted by: rufus magister | Dec 15 2014 4:55 utc | 141 if u sign on to the *deal* dont complain ! Posted by: denk | Dec 15 2014 4:56 utc | 142 Looking at the MC5 as a microcosm of the 60s, it’s instructive to consider the destructive effects that heroin had on them. Especially instructive when you consider, if you read something like Al McCoy’s The Politics of Heroin in SouthEast Asia, how deeply involved the CIA was in the trade…. Posted by: guest77 | Dec 15 2014 5:39 utc | 143 Why doesn’t Abbot just walk in there and shirtfront the terrorist? Posted by: guest77 | Dec 15 2014 5:42 utc | 144 I’m going to go way out on a limb and say the All Corporate All the Time RINO-RINO Congress of a 1000 Years has just paved the way for the wholesale slavery of Americans by allowing the International Banksters to gamble witj Americans passbook savings, which obviously can’t be protected by FDIC insurance, setting the stage for a sort squeeze across the board, then an engineered flash crash that will finally cement the UberMenschen as Masters of the Universe, and frack the hoi polloi, this is figuratively fracking the last reservoir of unconsolidated private savings on earth, American seniors. The Vampire Squid can’t wait for US to die soon enough, and the risk to their positions continues to grow flat-line. What is healthy for nature, that is, a slow seasonal growth rate, is death for hot money. They’re going to burn the forest down. Posted by: Chip Nihk | Dec 15 2014 9:24 utc | 145 Man behind sydney hostage affair exposed. Posted by: Anonymous | Dec 15 2014 16:09 utc | 146 hi there. my apologies if i miss a post directed to me. i am going to be away from a solid week and this will be my last post until i get back next monday. Posted by: james | Dec 15 2014 17:22 utc | 147 Correction, my 140 should read — Posted by: rufus magister | Dec 15 2014 23:41 utc | 148 Saker on getting ride of the fifth column and the rule of law …
Eric Zuesse on Americans picking the tab for Victoria Nuland et. al. …
I don’t know where the “At least 67% of the U.S. public are against it.” comes from but I certainly hope that’s true. Posted by: jfl | Dec 16 2014 1:05 utc | 149 Russian Spring Posted by: Fete | Dec 16 2014 4:27 utc | 150 Fete — Posted by: rufus magister | Dec 16 2014 4:43 utc | 151 Looks like my happy talk above was just that[T]he Russian Central Bank has suddenly raised its interest rates from 10,5% to 17%.. Posted by: jfl | Dec 16 2014 9:43 utc | 152 I put up two more pieces I thought were very interesting. Posted by: jfl | Dec 16 2014 11:58 utc | 153 I agree with the Saker …
Posted by: jfl | Dec 16 2014 23:20 utc | 154 US Fines German Bank US$1Bn for Doing Business with Cuba
Is it all stick? What is the reward for other countries to knuckle under … be fined for breaking another countries arbitrary ‘laws’ … laws that are actually a form of warfare and aggression and ought not to be obeyed by anyone. Posted by: jfl | Dec 17 2014 2:14 utc | 155 @152-154 – jfl.. thanks for trying to stay on top of this.. regarding saker and @154 comments – they can’t replace the leadership of the russian central bank with their own choices as i understand it and they can’t do what saker is suggesting unless they want to pull out of the world trade organization, imf and a few other things like that.. i believe they are bound by law on these issues too, but maybe i am wrong.. they have to figure out an alternative path for sure, but i don’t believe they can do what saker suggests or you agree with.. it would be good if they could, but i don’t believe they can without blowing up a number of agreements they have signed onto.. leaving for 5 days early tomorrow. Posted by: james | Dec 17 2014 2:32 utc | 156 Well, I think you’re right about the ‘illegality’ of the moves … but the Russians have been caught in the web spun by the IMF and the BIS. Those who are trying to destroy the Russian economy and divide Russia among themselves might be acting ‘legally’ … but what they’re doing is a crime. The ‘laws’ specify that Russia loses, which is the point I and the folks whose articles I’ve re-posted make. Posted by: jfl | Dec 17 2014 3:26 utc | 157 Russian Spring Posted by: Fete | Dec 18 2014 4:06 utc | 158 Two items from Fort Russ.
I think “the streets” of the Anglo-American Imperium and its satellites will need to induce prudence on the part of the political class.
Posted by: rufus magister | Dec 18 2014 4:26 utc | 159 There are any no. of reasons why the turn to post-modernism is a dead end.
That pretty much somes up PoMo — talks radical, walks (when it can) reactionary. Posted by: rufus magister | Dec 18 2014 5:35 utc | 160 Man, North Korea’s viral marketing department really sucks. Posted by: Monolycus | Dec 18 2014 6:17 utc | 161 That was a follow-up idea to denk and Oui‘s 127 and 130 respectively, incidentally. In case it wasn’t clear. Posted by: Monolycus | Dec 18 2014 7:20 utc | 162 If it’s ‘Never believe anything you hear until its been officially denied’ …
… the corollary has to be ‘Never completely discount anything you hear until its been ‘officially’ confirmed by ‘unnamed US intelligence officials’ using the NYTimes as sock puppet’.
Posted by: jfl | Dec 18 2014 8:00 utc | 163 I had missed the references above to the Cheonan sinking by the City of Corpus Christi and the following coverup.
Oil execs out for a joyride on a nuclear submarine! The Captain let’s them drive the thing!! One of them does … and rams a Japanese fisheries teaching ship, killing 9 people!!! Posted by: jfl | Dec 18 2014 9:30 utc | 164 How come arab states doesnt feel the oil price dump? Posted by: Anonyous | Dec 18 2014 10:57 utc | 165 Transcript of Vlad’s Dec 18 Press Conference via Kremlin website. Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Dec 18 2014 16:24 utc | 166 Paul Craig Roberts has a pretty comprehensive piece up on how the US has the world economy rigged up like a game of faro:
The actions of our government are risky and stupid beyond belief. We are led by people who are committed to probing light sockets with metal objects. Posted by: Nana2007 | Dec 18 2014 19:03 utc | 167 @166- good question. William Engdahl has a good piece up on that:
http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2014/10/24/the-secret-stupid-saudi-us-deal-on-syria/ Posted by: Nana2007 | Dec 18 2014 19:13 utc | 168 @166 The Saudis have low production costs…..around $17 a barrel. Plus they have about $800 billion currency reserves. They are playing a dangerous game though. US oil producers aren’t happy. Posted by: dh | Dec 18 2014 19:30 utc | 169 US set to veto UNSC resolution on Palestine Posted by: Anonymous | Dec 18 2014 19:55 utc | 170
The idea is that Merkel et.al. are now rifliing through Sahra Wagenknect’s drawers. The Stasi is back Big Time in Germany. Posted by: jfl | Dec 19 2014 0:12 utc | 171 @168
No one in the US listens to him … let’s hope Putin does. Posted by: jfl | Dec 19 2014 0:30 utc | 172 @169
Desperate people do stupid things. Putin and the rest of nations asserting TIAA need to target the US dollar … walk away from the setup detailed by PC Roberts and let the Too Big To Fails, now including the USG itself … fail. Then they will be in position to pickup the pieces of failed empire, their own economies! … and we in the US just might stir our own stumps, follow their example, and do that ourselves. Posted by: jfl | Dec 19 2014 0:39 utc | 173 News from Banderastan.
Can I get an “Amen” from the deacons? Doin’ the deity’s work here, it seems.
I don’t think Nuland will be sending Christmas cookies to Kiev this year. Posted by: rufus magister | Dec 19 2014 1:25 utc | 174 JFL@174- thanks for the response. I think you”re right, and Michael Koenig at the saker said something similar today:
My concern is that our losers will not walk away from the table with sangfroid…. Posted by: Nana2007 | Dec 19 2014 2:40 utc | 175 @167 Posted by: jfl | Dec 19 2014 2:50 utc | 176 @176 Posted by: jfl | Dec 19 2014 3:08 utc | 177 Russian Spring Posted by: Fete | Dec 19 2014 3:51 utc | 178 I think the negative powers that be are very concerned that the masses are getting hip to the economic,social and psychological,physical abuse they have been serving up for eons. Now is the time to keep a vigilant eye on them. The ptb will try to commit suicide by nuclear war once they Posted by: really | Dec 19 2014 8:01 utc | 179 Absolute nonsense. Blaming Assad for the creation of his enemies that are trying to kill him and destroy the nation of Syria. Posted by: really | Dec 19 2014 11:07 utc | 180 82% of Ukrainian Students from Lvov Dream of Working Abroad
Let’s see … drive the residents of Donbass onto Russia or kill them all – a la the Israeli ‘final solution’ for their Palestinian problem – and then … emigrate ‘abroad’? Posted by: jfl | Dec 19 2014 21:10 utc | 181 That would account for the willingness of German business – managers and workers – to suffer the collapse of trade with Russia … ‘pre-settlement’. Wouldn’t it? Posted by: jfl | Dec 19 2014 21:13 utc | 182 I don’t have the energy to unpack it now, but Mike Whitney (quite astute on the econ., usually) has long, thought-provoking article at Counterpunch on Barbarossa 2: Ruble Takedown Exposes Cracks in Putin’s Defense.
Venomous Determination — isn’t that a death metal band? Posted by: rufus magister | Dec 20 2014 2:36 utc | 183 dahoit at 84 — Posted by: rufus magister | Dec 20 2014 2:58 utc | 184 and dahoit, 84 Posted by: rufus magister | Dec 20 2014 3:12 utc | 185 what a god damned screwed up cuntry Posted by: denk | Dec 20 2014 4:26 utc | 186 Posted by: jfl | Dec 19, 2014 4:10:22 PM | 182 & 183 Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Dec 20 2014 4:28 utc | 187 Russian Spring Posted by: Fete | Dec 20 2014 5:50 utc | 188 @rufus magister #140:
Did I not say that My Bloody Valentine and Joy Division are the two poles of modern pop music? You said at #56 that you listened to Glider. Did you listen to Don’t Ask Why? Not only is there no drum machine, there are no drums at all. Demian at 190 — Posted by: rufus magister | Dec 20 2014 6:59 utc | 190 @188 Posted by: jfl | Dec 20 2014 10:24 utc | 191 Ruble Takedown Exposes Cracks in Putin’s Defense
MW plays the dirge, but then projects Putin Triumphant, using the Malaysian template to pull Russia through … and wreaking more, perhaps terminal havoc on the European Unit at the same time. Posted by: jfl | Dec 20 2014 11:12 utc | 192 Jaua: US Has No Power to Legislate Against Venezuelan Officials
And Russia, certainly … If the USA isn’t stopped it’ll be throttling every nation on earth that asserts TIAA (There Is An Alternative). Posted by: jfl | Dec 20 2014 11:41 utc | 193 @Demian The Dutch government is being pushed by the UNSC and Dutch parliament to advance the investigation and bring forward a status or accountability report. This has resulted to a letter to the UN Security Council [pdf] and a long reply in a letter to the Dutch parliament (Tweede Kamer) [docx]. Meanwhile, back in Bandarestan, workers are starting to take to the streets despite the repression. The Editors at New Cold War report that Working class resistance to austerity and factory closings is rising in [the] Ukraine. “There are growing protests by the working class in Ukraine against the economic calamity gripping the country.” They discuss actions in Kiev, Odessa and Lugansk. Posted by: rufus magister | Dec 20 2014 18:01 utc | 196 “…The public extract from the report confirms that the CIA conducted experiments based on the work of Professor Martin Seligman (theory of “learned helplessness”). They were not intended to obtain a confession or information, but to inculcate a narrative or behavior in the subjects. Most of the quotes that the press has extracted from the report are confusing. Posted by: really | Dec 21 2014 4:26 utc | 197 Russian Spring Posted by: Fete | Dec 21 2014 4:34 utc | 198 @184 @197 Posted by: jfl | Dec 21 2014 5:28 utc | 199 Russian Roulette: (American) Taxpayers Could Be on the Hook for Trillions in Oil Derivatives Posted by: really | Dec 21 2014 6:25 utc | 200 |
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