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December 02, 2014

Open Thread 2014-30

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Posted by b on December 2, 2014 at 01:34 PM | Permalink

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@brian #97, Vintage Red #99:

There can be no Russian Maidan, especially after the events of February and March. This is because Russia sees itself as a civilizational alternative to the West. (It is unfortunate that things have to be framed this way. Really, I think that Russia could see itself as part of European civilization. But that is impossible for the foreseeable future, because continental Europe has come to be completely dominated by the Anglosphere, which most definitely is inimical to Russia.) Ukraine, in contrast, builds its identity on being the un or anti-Russia. It hates Russian civilization, and has the fantasy that it is more civilized than Russia, because it is in actuality "Western". Hence, a more fertile breeding ground for a color revolution than Kiev can't be imagined. The very idea that there is such a thing as a Ukrainian nation is a delusion. If you are trapped in a delusion, it is a trivial task to use that delusion to trick you. That is what happened to the people at Maidan: they thought they were going to get democracy and prosperity, but instead got a Nazi government and hyper-neoliberalism.

Here is what Putin said about Crimea in yesterday's speech:

Living in the Crimea, our people and the territory itself strategically important, because here is the spiritual source of the formation of diverse, but monolithic Russian nation and the centralized Russian state. Here, in the Crimea, in the ancient Chersonese, or, as he called it Russian chroniclers, Korsun, received the baptism of Prince Vladimir, and then baptized the whole of Russia.

Along with ethnicity, language, and common elements of material culture, a common, though not defined then the stable boundaries of the territory, the emerging joint economic activities and authority of Prince Christianity has been a powerful unifying spiritual force that made it possible to include in the formation of a unified Russian nation and the formation of a common statehood different blood tribes and tribal unions of the vast Eastern world.

And it is on this spiritual soil of our ancestors for the first time and forever that Russians became aware of themselves as one nation. And it gives us every reason to say that for Russia, the Crimea, the ancient town, Crimea, Sevastopol have a huge civilizational and sacred significance. Just as the Temple mount in Jerusalem for those who profess Islam or Judaism. So we're going to take this now and forever.

So Putin said that Crimea is to the Russians as Jerusalem is to the Jews. I wonder if there is anyone in Washington or London who knows that, or understands what it means.

I got that quote from Egor Kholmogorov: the word "Russian" is getting close to the concept of "being a Roman". This essay argues that Russians are once more thinking in terms of the concept of the Russian nation. (I don't know how good this Yandex translation is. Be warned: for some reason: Yandex translates "Russian" as "English". Unfortunately, linking to the Yandex translation of a Web page doesn't work anymore, so that is a link to the original Russian.)

Posted by: Demian | Dec 4, 2014 7:22:29 PM | 101


Dear Demian,

Did you ever consider a possibility that it's not Dostoyevsky or Chaikovsky that people hate in Russia, but widespread corruption, theft, arrogance and lack of respect to human life?

Posted by: Ulster | Dec 4, 2014 7:59:54 PM | 102

Also, people in Russia seem to seem to react to the concept of "moral superiorit of Russian civilisation" with a wonderful sarcasm, as this Загнивающий Запад ("decaying Europe") gallery clearly suggests.

Posted by: Ulster | Dec 4, 2014 8:02:37 PM | 103

to Anon @ 100 --

Perhaps Lavrov has a good cookie recipe. Or given the weather now, some hearty pelmeni.

To sound a darker note, here's Russian blogger Anatoly Shirii arguing that Kolomoisky declares war on Poroshenko. He begins by discussing bad blood between the bankrupt Privat Bank and the National Bank of the Ukraine over financing. Kolomoisky is pressuring Poroshenko for favorable ministers and policies to help his bank.

Shirii holds that Poroshenko has to escalate:

For his part, Poroshenko explicitly accepts the challenge, because all his steps suggest that he is not going to put up with a situation when the head of Dnepropetrovsk region simply "pushes" the President from the political arena, or creates a decorative dummy for New Year's greetings.

The confrontation escalates. Property expropriations carried out by Kolomoisky using territorial battalions result in attempts to subdue these battalions (which are armed groups with carte blanche to exercise unlawful acts) by the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine.

The commanders now have immunity (which of course, no one will cancel at this point for the most ridiculous reasons).

To stay on the political economy of Banderastan, the business website "Business New Europe" believes that Post-Maidan Ukraine Is More Corrupt than Ever. I'd link to the underlying article instead of Russia Insider, but there's a paywall.

And what about that missing gold? According to Zero Hedge National Bank head and Poroshenko crony Valeriya Gontareva is about to be indicted; her unauthorized gold trading lost the bullion. At least, that's what a local court in Kiev has order prosecutors to do. We'll see.

Tyler Durden, the poster, concludes suggesting that this scandal might be the tipping point: "the realization among the Ukraine people... that they were thoroughly betrayed..." might be the "spark that lights the counter-revolution...."

And to move on to the global economy, keep an eye on your balances, barflies. TruthOut reports that New G20 Rules: Cyprus-Style Bail-Ins to Hit Depositors and Pensioners. "All this fancy footwork is to prevent a run on the TBTF banks, in order to keep their derivatives casino going with our money." Because, free markets.

Posted by: rufus magister | Dec 4, 2014 8:36:23 PM | 104

' That is what happened to the people at Maidan: they thought they were going to get democracy and prosperity, but instead got a Nazi government and hyper-neoliberalism. '

And when it's all gone down, the poor Ukrainian people will finally realize how viciously they have been played, the European Unit will run away from them as they would from a leper, and Russia will - cautiously at first - accept them back in the fold.

Do you think there is any chance of that happening?

I finally saw the article the Sakers of the sea were trumpeting the other day ... Will Russia, Germany save Europe from war?

The idea of Russia and Germany bilaterally rolling back history when it comes to actual territory - again - seems fantastic (and horrific) to me, but isn't the idea very much in the vein of a federated Ukraine?

Posted by: jfl | Dec 4, 2014 8:36:25 PM | 105

I'm giving my link for the bit at 74 another shot.

Arms Experts Believe Most Weapons In Ukraine Are Locally Sourced.

The majority of arms and munitions documented in service with separatist forces have evidently been appropriated from the Ukrainian security forces and their installations within Ukraine.... The Ukrainian regime has access to more powerful weapon systems, in greater numbers, and with a more robust logistical chain than separatist forces could hope to muster without overt support from a foreign power.

Posted by: rufus magister | Dec 4, 2014 8:48:13 PM | 106

@jfl #105:

Do you think there is any chance of that happening?

Yes, but that could take decades. You must remember that for the past twenty years, Ukrainians have been subjected to an intense program of indoctrination into Russophobia and racist nationalism. Plus, (1) the Ukrainian government is now Nazi, and Nazis don't let something like elections remove them from power once they have it; (2) Ukraine is firmly in the Empire's grip, and as we all know, the Empire doesn't casually let a country go once it has grabbed it. So I think that Ukraine's returning to the Russian fold is linked to further decline in the Empire's power. Also, the reorientation of Ukraine back to Russia will also be part of the process of the emergence of several regional trading blocks; here, it is more natural for Western Europe to be part of the Eurasion block than an Atlanticist one. So, as the Empire declines, probably not just Ukraine, but the whole of Europe will reorient themselves towards Russia. I think that this is what both Russia and China expect to happen in the long run.

The idea of Russia and Germany bilaterally rolling back history when it comes to actual territory - again - seems fantastic (and horrific) to me

The idea of rolling back history in this way seems lovely to me. In fact, I would like to see history rolled back all the way to just before World War I. The problem is, you can't roll back history. That is why that piece by Escobar is the first one I've read in which I think he is completely off.

Posted by: Demian | Dec 4, 2014 9:25:47 PM | 107

@Demian, 101:

With all respect, are you sure you didn’t misread brian at 97 and me at 99? I at least was not talking about an imperial “Maidan” vs. Russia, but a strictly rhetorical and ironic “turnabout is fair play” scenario in which a Russian diplomat were to hand out cookies (or whatever) to show support for anti-racist protesters in Ferguson and around the US. I agree with you that a US/EU “Maidan” coup effort directed at Russia is not likely to succeed.

rufus magister quotes Shirii @ 104:

The confrontation escalates. Property expropriations carried out by Kolomoisky using territorial battalions result in attempts to subdue these battalions (which are armed groups with carte blanche to exercise unlawful acts) by the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine.

Ever since junta forces were routed by the militias’ counterattack in August I’ve been wondering when open hostilities will break out between the UAF and the NaziGuard.

And I’m sure Lavrov has a great cookie recipe or three were it strategic to offer them. But he and the rest of the planet understand that the US people really need to learn how to bake our own cookies. They’ll be all the tastier for being home made…

Posted by: Vintage Red | Dec 4, 2014 11:10:13 PM | 108

@Vintage Red #107:

I just replied to you because you replied to brian. And I didn't mean to suggest that either of you thought that a Russian Maidan is possible. I'd just read that piece on Russian nationalism, so I wanted to explain why.

On the other hand, the Russian government is infested with liberals who don't want to implement the kind of policies Putin wants to make Russia less dependent on the West. That appears to be one of the main problems right now. An example of that is the people running the central bank, as Glazyev pointed out recently.

Posted by: Demian | Dec 4, 2014 11:50:42 PM | 109

Oops, typo on a key pt. for 104 -- Anatoly Sharii.

And if I might answer at 102 -- I don't know about Dostoevsky (overrated, I prefer Turgenev) or Tchaikovsky, but these people hate not corruption but Catherine the Great and Pushkin, and sought to destroy their monument in Odessa.

Posted by: rufus magister | Dec 4, 2014 11:53:51 PM | 110


' (1) the Ukrainian government is now Nazi, and Nazis don't let something like elections remove them from power once they have it; '

So you discount citizens of West Ukraine rising to join their brothers and sisters in East and ousting the Nazis?

' (2) Ukraine is firmly in the Empire's grip, and as we all know, the Empire doesn't casually let a country go once it has grabbed it. '

Whether you do/do not discount the possibility of a more or less unified Ukrainian resistance do you think the West will take the opportunity of the overt (US/German backed) rise of the 'real' Nazis in the East and the phantom 'Nazis' in the West of Ukraine as the opportunity that Joaquin Flores' forecast of warring on Nazis, a la ISIS in Syria/Iraq?

And should that war materialize, wouldn't it be an attempt to roll back history to 'good ole days'? The 'good ole days' of WWII, from the US' point of view, if not the Crusades, in the case of ISIS.

I think you can roll back history in some instances, the 21srt Century up until now in the USA, for instance. Start at the tail of the 20th with the repeal of the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act and reinstatement of 'Glass-Steagall', repeal the PATRIOT Act, repeal the AUMF, repeal the TARP ... you get the idea. But those are all just laws. Changing borders is another thing all together.

Posted by: john francis lee | Dec 5, 2014 12:01:35 AM | 111

Russian Spring


Summary from fronts by combatant Prokhorov:

Today battles rolled through entire day. In particular, in Staroignatovka (south, Volnovakha region), in Burgas (?) (blasted Ukrainian outpost there), in area of Novotroitskoye (also Volnovakha); Dokiuchayevsk with Elenovka dueled with Volnovakha (Ukrainian outpost was hit at highway police station).

Bakhmutka is being struck. Ukrainians blast back from Severodonetsk airport. In the morning, they worked upon Stanitsa-Luganskaya.

In Donetsk region – battles (the airport, Avdeevka, Peski, Opitnoye, Krasnogorovka).

Overall – a typical day.

Yesterday under Donetsk (combatants' artillery) hit a unit of 128th mountain-infantry brigade.

In Debal`tsevo, in addition to other things, headquarters of 128th brigade were hit by “Grads” – scores of killed, burned a parked APC, several trucks and SUVs.

Russian Spring


Headquarters of Polish Private Military Company were liquidated under Volnovakha.

Headquarters of Donetsk Republic’s intelligence report of destruction by artillery fire of Polish Private Military Company headquarters plus assisting Ukrainian forces at hamlet Bogdanovka, between Dokuchyevsk and Volnovakha.

Per preliminary data opponent’s losses among personnel amount to 100 and more.

Head of Donetsk Republic's intelligence general Sergey Petrovskiy confirmed above: “There was such business” – he replied laconically.

Posted by: Fete | Dec 5, 2014 12:16:01 AM | 112

On turning back time --

Though the preference appears to be "Forward into the Past," a la Firesign Theatre, I would offer --

Out of the blue
and into the black
You pay for this,
but they give you that
And once you're gone,
you can't come back....

N. Young., "Hey Hey, My My (Into the Black)"

Posted by: rufus magister | Dec 5, 2014 12:36:58 AM | 113

sorry if i missed something someone said to me...

@108 demian.. that link points back the questions that had been posed on the sakers site from some time ago, specifically as to the nature of russia central bank, or cbr.. as i understand it, cbr is like a backdoor into having a strong influence on the direction of russia's aspirations and financial independence and acts like a separate entity that putin and the russian gov't have no real influence over. as i understand it the cbr came with an agreement to be part of the world trade organization and integrate into the bigger system outlined by the bretton woods agreement which stalin never signed onto.. i think the reason he never signed onto it had to do with the idea of giving control of it's financial well being over to some outside force which i see the cbr as essentially.

i don't claim to understand this very well, but i am very interested in this topic and have done some research as well. i shared this video when it came out a few weeks ago.. it is a 101 course on this topic.. i don't recall anyone commenting on it.. i then made a fairly long post on another open thread after the saker gave the responses to various posters who had asked questions to Mikhail Khazin.. the link to the sakers on this topic is Link to ACLU .. the cbr was the first question that he tried to answer.. if you read in the comment section of this article a women named penelope had some very useful information on this topic, including a book recommendation for a title called 'rouble nationalization'... here is a site where you can buy this book. unfortunately, i can't figure out what language it is in, to buy the book!!!! here is a pdf for this book. read pages 24-38 or so in order to get a better understanding on this topic, although a full read of the book would probably be best. i prefer reading in book form as opposed to on the net where i do too much reading already!

Posted by: james | Dec 5, 2014 12:49:10 AM | 114

sorry if i missed something someone directed to me..

@108 demian.. concerning the russian central bank topic.. please consider reading my comment @180 on this threadfrom a week ago.. you also made a comment @123 on the same thread. perhaps you'd like to revisit it?

i had typed out a fairly long response on this to you a few minutes ago, but it disappeared into the ozone.. weird how that happens. i can't recall it happening to me here before.. anyway, although my previous post @180 on the thread i link above is long, you might find it especially relevant.. consider buying this book if you want to learn more on the russian central bank and how it is tied into the world financial system in a way that seems to undermine russia's financial position at this point.

Posted by: james | Dec 5, 2014 1:02:49 AM | 115

@105 jfl

Americans are being played just like the Ukrainians. The only difference is that there are no bombs dropping and gunfire. There is a quiet war being waged against 99% of the American populace and the fronts are social, economical, psychological etc, etc. Btw, this war waged by the powers that be has been going on since the country's inception.

Posted by: really | Dec 5, 2014 2:35:13 AM | 116


' The only difference is that there are no bombs dropping and gunfire. '

I guess we're both white Americans. With white skin the gunfire is not so much. If we were black Americans we'd be noticing the gunfire. And if we were Muslim Americans touring/visiting/living outside US borders, we'd be noticing the drones and the bombs.

But, as they say, what goes around comes around.

Posted by: john francis lee | Dec 5, 2014 2:55:34 AM | 117


The takeover of Ukrainian government by foreigners will lead to liquidation of native population

The takeover of the Ukrainian government by foreigners - is nothing less than a liquidation commission. They occupy the positions of Minister of Finance, Minister of Economy and Minister of Health. It is very likely that in the near future we will witness "the salvation of Ukraine" through economic and financial shock.

In the Ministry of Finance
  - radical sequestration of the budget (reduction of social spending, expenditures in education, health, culture), tax increases, default, probably releasing the exchange rate.

In the Ministry of Economy
  - total privatization, the collapse of industry with preservation of agriculture, and changes in foreign trade rules, promoting the penetration of goods from EU, USA into Ukrainian market.

Ministry of Health
  - across the board reductions of funds and employees.

Actually the population of Ukraine has only one way out - absolute resistance to authorities, or start preparing to go down into the ground.

Should we amend (1) above to

' (1) the Ukrainian government is now the Chicago Boys, and the Chicago Boys don't let something like elections remove them from power once they have it; '

Elections ... they don't need no stinkin' elections. They're foreigners. And their appointment was illegal ... but hey, anything for Brother George Soros.

Posted by: john francis lee | Dec 5, 2014 3:18:55 AM | 118

Seems like west try regimge change in Bucharest nowadays.

Posted by: Anonymous | Dec 5, 2014 3:29:08 AM | 119

Commentary on Putin's speech:

Posted by: KMF | Dec 5, 2014 8:12:42 AM | 120

@115 john francis lee

I should have said civil war type mass killing of civilians gunfire. I should have been more specific. Yes minorities be ducking the lead on the regular in vthe good ol' USA.

Posted by: really | Dec 5, 2014 9:10:42 AM | 121

Here we go again. HR 758. designed for more confrontation with Russia.

"The war resolution nobody has told you about."

From Cannonfire:

Posted by: ben | Dec 5, 2014 10:43:07 AM | 122

@Demian, 108:

Thank you, I was wondering. I also knew of different factions in Russia's power structure, and found it of interest that there seems to be such a concentration of them at the central bank.

@Anonymous, 117:

That would be Budapest, and yes, Hungary does seem to be in the US/EU's sights right now.

Posted by: Vintage Red | Dec 5, 2014 10:49:45 AM | 123

"...Russia then agreed to Crimea joining the Russian Federation, a reaffirmation of an historic relationship. The Western press begins its narrative on the Crimea situation with the annexation, but completely ignores the provocations by the West and other causal factors which resulted in the annexation.

This distortion of reality is artificially creating an hysteria about Russian aggressiveness, another distortion which could pose an exceptionally dangerous situation for the world, if acted upon by other nations.

The U.S. Congress is responding to the distortions, not to the reality Similar distortions are developing now in the coverage of events in the eastern part of Ukraine, in Donetsk and Luhansk.

Tensions between Russia and the U.S. are being fueled every day by players who would benefit financially from a resumption of the Cold War which, from 1948 to 1991 cost U.S. taxpayers $20 TRILLION dollars (in 2014 dollars), an amount exceeding our $18 trillion National Debt..."

The neo cons and other war mongers are only responding to the distortions that they created. Check out this fine example of distortions courtesy of the warmongers in the US C ongress.

Posted by: really | Dec 5, 2014 12:36:00 PM | 124

Vintage Red

Yes I saw that fail after I posted :)
Hungary have been in the sight since Viktor came to power, I remember some years back when they whined about some news related law that was imposed.

Posted by: Anonymous | Dec 5, 2014 12:43:52 PM | 125


' On the other hand, the Russian government is infested with liberals who don't want to implement the kind of policies Putin wants to make Russia less dependent on the West. That appears to be one of the main problems right now. An example of that is the people running the central bank, as Glazyev pointed out recently. '

What is the mechanism for replacing the 'Chicago Boys' at the Central Bank in Russia?

Do you think they will be replaced? If so when and by whom? Glazyev and friends?

Posted by: john francis lee | Dec 5, 2014 5:00:57 PM | 126


Is 114 the longer version of this post? I had downloaded the pdf, it remains - unread - on my disk, but I had not watched the video. A distinction without a difference with respect to my not-reading. So I was MIA. The video is amazing, on several levels.

What a production. A Deputy of the Russian Parliament is a deputy of the people? I cannot imagine same from my American congressional representatives :) This is a video from an 'actual' TV production?!

His opening remarks on 0% interest are consonant with Creating New Money, and his frame of reference for what that credit ought to be used for throws into bold relief the exact opposite aims of the US Fed which is effectively doing the same thing for the exclusive benefit of its owners, the financial mafia, who then lend the money into existence in the real economy.

It is unclear to me how Putin can replace the personnel at the central bank as they are part of an "international agreement". Apparently he has to knot his belt, stride in to the 'temple', and drive them out. Regardless the consequences.

What else can they do to him, and to Russia, at this point?

Before the Republicans take over in the US would be good.

Posted by: john francis lee | Dec 5, 2014 6:01:33 PM | 127

In my opinion it is time for marijuana to be legalized in the United States of America. The criminalization of “weed” is costly on many facets of society. Marijuana arrests for sale or possession cause irreparable damage to family units and burdens taxpayers with costs that could be focused elsewhere to better the lives of people across the board from infrastructure to public education. In addition to the afore-mentioned savings, there would be additional tax revenue generated. Colorado should be the national model for the legalization of marijuana, the benefits of national legalization far outweigh the negatives. I do not know the ends and out of medical marijuana uses but there are many and should be utilized by those who may benefit. Here is a link on the subject from norml’s website.

I think police may welcome the decriminalization of marijuana because it would free them to investigate the criminal activity involved with large quantities of marijuana and harder drugs such as heroin which has made a devastating return to America. The US-Mexico border patrols may also see a reduced amount of small time marijuana traffickers if the profit motive is gone. There may also be a reduction in gang violence if yet again the profit motive is no longer there because marijuana users can purchase marijuana at a local shop safely. Why would a user risk getting a bag of whatever, when they would be able to legally choose and purchase from a myriad of strains which are guaranteed to be as advertised.

Also the overcrowded prison populations could be significantly reduced, by not having additional marijuana arrests for small time possession. Colorado’s marijuana laws mete out applicable punishment for illegal quantities indicated within the law. I have no problem whatsoever with that. However the drugged driving laws regarding marijuana will need to be carefully developed, because a zero tolerance policy clearly will not work. There will need to be quantitative measurements of THC blood levels that would result in charges. It would be quite the problem if someone is pinched for a positive test for marijuana smoked weeks earlier.

Posted by: really | Dec 5, 2014 7:36:02 PM | 128

I find it puzzling that no one has brought up the recent attack in Grozny.

From the account on Huffpost, here's an interesting observation.

Dmitry Trenin, who heads the Carnegie Moscow Center, wrote in a Twitter post that "the night attack in Grozny looks senseless, except as an attempt to embarrass Putin hours before his annual address to parliament."

It also reports that Putin suggested that the Chechens were receiving outside help.

Some evidence indicates this could be possible. Back in October, reported that Kolomoysky hires battalion of Chechens to arrange third Maidan. That report noted that "Dzhokhar Dudayev" was already there, the new battalion (really just a large company, 300 men) joined them at their base outside Dnieprpetrovsk.

Far more damning are statements by Rada members. From "RT na russkom" via Fort Rus, Ukrainian MP's call for a second and third front in Chechnya and Central Asia reports that:

According to the Deputy from the nationalist Radical party Igor Mosiychuk, one of the leaders of the volunteer battalion of Azov, Ukraine should attempt to trigger events, such as those that took place in Grozny on the night of December 5, not only in the Caucasus but also in Central Asia.

"This suggests that the Chechens are opening a second front" - Mosiychuk was quoted by Politnavigator, "I think that Ukraine, while in a state of war, should stimulate the opening of the second, and third front in the Caucasus, in Central Asia".

It goes on to note that the Radicals are hosting a conference in Kiev of what Mosiychuk called "anti-Kremlin bloc [of] nations," including Chechnya, who suffer under Russian aggression.

And once again everyone's favorite loose cannon, Popular Front MP and volunteer commander, Yuri Bereza, graces these electrons.

Bereza went further, suddenly saying that Chechnya should be back inside the territory of Ukraine.

"Remember that before 1917, the territory of Grozny ... was Ukraine, [say, what!!?? - rm]" - said Bereza... "On our Eastern borders our brothers are trying to get out from under the Russian power. This is normal. They are the allies of Ukraine".

However, MP's/commanders of punitive battalions had surprised with their statements before. At a press conference in early November they promised a military march on Moscow, the conquest of Kuban and a creation of the Ukrainian-Georgian border.

"First we will take the East, then South, then go to Kuban and begin to recreate the Ukrainian world," - said Yuri Bereza. A few days before that on Ukrainian TV channel, he said that his fighters are ready to invade the Russian Federation with reconnaissance detachments and subversive groups.

The article concludes with a reality check by Sergei Lavrov. "It's barbaric, it's cynical. I think there is a basis for law enforcement agencies to look into this situation for a subject of criminal proceedings," - said Lavrov.

We Yanks of course would just send in the drones. Who's got the patience for all that dreary investigating and boring trial?

I wonder -- did the Chechens think up this latest action themselves, or were there voices off from DC or Riyadh?

Posted by: rufus magister | Dec 5, 2014 7:47:14 PM | 129

Green energy needs to be seriously addressed in the United States of America. We are supposedly the leaders of the free world and we are lagging behind in green energy implementation. Since our power grid needs a serious makeover, it would be prudent to utilize the most advanced green energy processes available within the new power grid infrastructure. This could be done by requiring all federal and state government buildings and transportation to utilize green energy in an impact manner and not just at the token exploratory levels currently being used.

Another way to get private industry and homeowners onboard is to develop worthwhile incentives such as tax breaks and subsidies to purchase and/or retrofit their assets to incorporate green energy. The current energy conglomerates should and must be an integral part of the implementation since they hold many viable green energy patents. Imagine the profits to be made and jobs created.

In addition the country’s highway infrastructure needs to be overhauled, so why not implement green energy into the revitalization. Imagine green energy lighting, weigh stations, road signs, and rest areas. The tax expenditures initially outlayed will be be small in the long run because once the green energy power grid and assets are brought online they start paying for themselves immediately. More money in business owners pockets should equate to higher wages for employees. Of course we will still depend on fossil feuls for certain industrial processes and transport until advances can be made. So it is time for the United States of America to seriously get of its buttocks and start addressing the issue of cliamate change and green energy. If the public sees the government and big business utilizing and benefiting from green energy John and Jane Q. Public will follow suit. Like others have noted, imagine where we would be if president Jimmy Carter could have installed those solar panels on the White House back in the late 1970’s. In my opinion, it seems like the United States of America has wasted 30 plus years when it comes to green energy implementation with just token levels of utilization, that is shameful for a nation which is supposed to be the leader of the free world and one of the globes top innovators.

Posted by: really | Dec 5, 2014 8:03:53 PM | 130

Obama's new DefSec is known as Ash, suggesting that he has an unhealthy obsession with fire.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Dec 5, 2014 8:37:09 PM | 131

boy, the politicians have a lot to do
don't they have to set the menu for the new boys by passing a budget
it is one universal black bag, and if you poke a hole, soot on your eye
requires switching to the right eye from the left eye
they must leave a burning bag of shit at our door and disappear
tanks in Estonia?

Posted by: Jay M | Dec 5, 2014 8:37:41 PM | 132


' ... did the Chechens think up this latest action themselves, or were there voices off from DC or Riyadh? '

You're kidding, right? These guys staff the outfit Graham Fuller was recruiting the Tsarnaevs for. The Saker version of the story.

Posted by: john francis lee | Dec 5, 2014 8:40:15 PM | 133

Those interested should read Russian foreign minister Lavrov's comments on the Middle East and ways to improve the all around situation in the region.

Remarks by Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov at the second session of the Russian-Arab Cooperation Forum, Khartoum, 3 December 2014

Posted by: really | Dec 5, 2014 9:48:37 PM | 134

@129 rufus.. good questions on this topic which i have followed since it's inception. not much is being said, but i think a lot of questions are being asked. i agree with your comments on the related points of interest in your post too.

@134 really. yes - i had read that as well. worthwhile reading for a better understanding of russias viewpoint here. thanks.

Posted by: james | Dec 5, 2014 10:19:29 PM | 135

jflee at 133 --

Why would I not be serious? Like Elvis, I have a suspicious mind, at least when it comes to politics, and I see grounds for suspicion.

DC has a long tradition of using proxies vs. its enemies, like Islamic fundamentalists to attack Moscow in Afghanistan, Saudis fund plenty of jihadis. I have a pretty complete run of "Covert Action Information Bulletin" (go Phil Agee!) and know of what Langley and Foggy Bottom are capable. So just 'cause some potential recruits might have bombed a sporting event is no reason why you can't use the Chechen fundis. Esp. if you do so indirectly, through some friends of friends.

It seems well within the realm of the possible. I was curious what others thought; thanks for weighing in, if only briefly.

I saw the Sakers analysis over at Russia Insider shortly after I posted. Accidental exposure at a ck'pt., not a planned op. One does wonder what they had in mind, for now or later (say, during Putin's speech?), and on whose orders they acted.

He doesn't see it as Washington re-igniting the Wahabist insurgency, emphasizing the extensive resources devoted to security in Chechnya. Nor do I, FWIW; I quoted Trenin as I agreed with the notion that it was a diversion vs. Putin, not a renewal of the civil war.

I think it a good bet that Kiev will try to pursue the idea of a "Second Front" in the Caucasus; they do have the necessary assets on the payroll. The Saker's post suggests that Dagestan might be a good spot.

The "volunteer battalions" and their oligarchs are quite capable acting against orders from HQ in DC, should they be against it. Some sort of payback, a diversion of attn/resources, a means of weaking of Putin's popular support (and ergo of pressure vs. them) would be the aim. The more expansive aims of Bereza are, I think, rhetoric for local consumption. I don't see it succeeding, just them trying.

And while I'm back, No Bread and Circuses for You comes through with a link to the full article from BNE I cite up at 104 on growing corruption in Banderastan.

Bloomberg News makes a similar find with One Year After Defying Putin, Ukraine Is Choking on Its Own Red Tape. "A year after Ukrainians rose up against the pro-Russian policies of then-President Viktor Yanukovych [now there's a slab of Newspeak for you - rm], business leaders still wait for an end to corruption and cronyism, promised by the revolution’s leaders."

Posted by: rufus magister | Dec 5, 2014 10:33:57 PM | 136

James @ 136 --

Thanks for saying so, but it's hardly as pressing a matter as the essence of liberalism vs. conservatism or the nature of historical time. The stuff on Ferguson, Garner, Erdogan, Russian Maidan has been nice, though.

I try not to stray too far from the former Union, particularly the Ukraine/Novorossiya. I'll just keep rolling along 'til all hell breaks loose; folks will have to play catch-up ball.

"Go Reds, Beat State!" Slainte!

Posted by: rufus magister | Dec 5, 2014 10:55:43 PM | 137

to Jay M @ 132 --

"they must leave a burning bag of shit at our door and disappear
tanks in Estonia?"

Most droll, quite descriptive; I wish I had said it, tx.

Posted by: rufus magister | Dec 5, 2014 11:05:37 PM | 138


The Chechens have been fighting the Russians for hundreds of years so trying to portray them as tools of the West is a stretch. They may have taken some aid from the West but that is just incidental.

In fact I read that Yeltsin was aided by the NSA in targeting and eliminating moderate Chechen independence leaders.

Give the Chechens some credit for their struggle, they have suffered greatly under the iron fist of the Russians.

Posted by: Wayoutwest | Dec 5, 2014 11:23:04 PM | 139

Wayoutwest at 139 --

The Chechens collaborated with the Nazis and were amongst the most vicious of the mafiya to emerge in the break-up of the Soviet Union, and their struggle has included some of the largest hostage seizures ever.

Nor do I as an atheist who drinks, eats pork, listens to music, and likes the company of the opposite sex find the recent draping of their ambitions with the Prophet's cloak very endearing. If I memory serves, they were somewhat disinterested in Wahabism until money was involved.

So regrettably, I'm disinclined to credit them.

I'm not saying they're a tool of the West, generally. I'm just wondering if we suddenly consider them, in the short term, usefully moderate jihadis. Or as I tried to suggest, our autocratic-theocratic friends in Riyadh (or the Gulf) might have found it a suitable, independent aid (in addition to low oil prices) to Wash. in its struggle over Novorossiya.

Posted by: rufus magister | Dec 5, 2014 11:39:54 PM | 140

And speaking of all hell breaking loose, here's PC Roberts. He can be a little sobering, but only 'cause he tends to be right. He is here with Russia Has Western Enemies, Not Partners.

Washington has made it completely clear that Russia can be part of the West only as a vassal state and not as a sovereign country with its own interests and an independent policy.... As the ideology of hegemony has a powerful hold on Washington and is institutionalized in the neoconservative control of critical government offices and media, war is the almost certain outcome....

Arrogance and hubris usually result in overreach, and overreach could break up Washington’s empire. But Washington doesn’t think so. Just as Washington put its NGOs into the streets of Kiev in what is called the Maiden protests, Washington has put its NGOs in the streets of Hong Kong, hoping that the protests or riots will spread to other Chinese cities....

Washington knows that Russia cannot be turned into a vassal state as long as Putin is in office. Therefore, the demonization of Putin and plots against him will continue.

Posted by: rufus magister | Dec 5, 2014 11:52:14 PM | 141

and ps to 140 -- Yeltsin did our bidding, Putin does not.

Posted by: rufus magister | Dec 6, 2014 12:00:51 AM | 142

Russian Spring


Evening summary from fronts by combatant Prokhorov:

Information originated from locals that National Guard left hamlet Orlovka (outskirts of Avdeevka)

Revenge is being sent back for shelling Dokuchayevsk - at Ukrainian positions 3 km outside Volnovakha (Volnovakha is spared from shelling – it was not hit once; no house was destroyed by combatants, unlike Dokuchayevsk being ruined by Ukrainians) into area of settlement Blizhiy. Positions of 28th brigade near Stepnoye (also Volnovakha region) are also being hit.

It sounds like Ukrainians have run from the airport to Peski. 93rd brigade lost few tanks and an APC, 6 killed and a dozen of wounded – do not encroach the airport anymore.

In Lugansk Republic - roughing up Ukrainians in area of Trekhizbenka. From their side, Ukrainians are launching “Grads” right from inside Lisichansk, meaning the combatants would have to work up the fringes of this occupied city.

Artillery duels are taking place in area of Stanitsa-Luganskaya.

Posted by: Fete | Dec 6, 2014 12:24:33 AM | 143

rufus / fete.. thanks.

wayoutwest - more spin and bs.. i guess that is your specialty.

Posted by: james | Dec 6, 2014 1:13:35 AM | 144

the muricun regime demand immunity from proscecution for the cuns fighting isis [sic] in iraq.
immunity from what may i ask....the only explanation is the cuns fully intend to do another fallujah !

and this is how a cunt rationalising crimes against humanities
*The U.S. military needs to be free to to use heavy firepower. Iraq's role--which it now seems to accept--is to bear the burden of the inevitable "Collateral damage" that comes with the territory.*


Posted by: denk | Dec 6, 2014 2:16:58 AM | 145

For those who understand German - this was published in Zeit Online yesterday: Ukraine-Krise: "Wieder Krieg in Europa? Nicht in unserem Namen!" | ZEIT ONLINE

Over night it has now been turned in a petition - Appell: Wieder Krieg in Europa? Nicht in unserem Namen! - Online Petition if you would like to add your name.

Posted by: Fran | Dec 6, 2014 3:31:18 AM | 146

@147 continued

You know what, even if the crazy warmongers in vthe usg are just using this legislation to ramp up military spending the mere idea that they are thinking about and promoting this bellicose and suicidal legislation should open the eyes of john q and jane public. It is time for the warmongers and their think tanks need to be relieved of their governmental duties. They have shown themselves time and time again to be reckless, irresponsible and unworthy of their position in the American political process.

Posted by: really | Dec 6, 2014 4:33:54 AM | 148

The Malaysian airlines flight mh17 downed vby military aircraft vkiev false flag

Fukking a$$holes knocking down civilian airliners over some twisted cold war 2.0 agenda. I pray the murderous rat bastards responsible burn in hell for all of enternity.

Posted by: really | Dec 6, 2014 6:08:12 AM | 149

Mommmmy I want "the Qatari mediator" to do some thing, or another proof of the impunity with which these guys are moving around...

Posted by: Mina | Dec 6, 2014 7:43:05 AM | 150

war games in downtown la...
prepping murcuns for the *new normal*,

Posted by: denk | Dec 6, 2014 9:31:54 AM | 151

Too deliciously ironic not to post -- A Hundred Thousand Dollars For a Job at the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine. The underlying source for the report at the re-designed Fort Russ is Nikolai Saveliev, chief editor of the Lvov newspaper "Ratusha". He cites the complaints of his contacts in local law enforcement.

Actually, it's a steal at only $50K net -- "the detective was asked for $100,000 with a promise that he will get at least half back in the first quarter."

Can I get a "Glory to the Ukraine" from the Rada, brothers and sisters? Hallelujah, brethren, hallelujah!

Posted by: rufus magister | Dec 6, 2014 10:20:32 AM | 152


The claim of Chechen collaboration with the Nazis appears to be a fabrication used by Stalin to justify deporting the whole population for political reasons. Even decorated Chechen generals in the Soviet army were deported.

The targeted murders of moderate Chechen leaders by Yeltsin and probably Putin seems to have been deliberately designed to bring the extremists to power to justify Russian military intervention.

Posted by: Wayoutwest | Dec 6, 2014 11:14:08 AM | 153

No, they and the Crimean Tatars cooperated. Like their new Banderaist friends in Kiev.

See the wiki for Azeri SS Volunteer Formations. The Chechens were amongst the nationalities in the "Kaukasisch-Mohammedanische Legion." The article discusses a number of formations within the Waffen-SS, such as the Ostmuselmanisches SS-Regiment, to which a number ethnic groups contributed.

Posted by: rufus magister | Dec 6, 2014 11:45:06 AM | 154


This may be true but 50,000 Chechens fought against the Nazis and stopped their march through the Caucauses. My point is, did the whole population of Chechenia deserve to be deported or slaughtered by Stalin for the sins of a few misguided people? You seem to be falling into the Manichean trap of heros and villians that leads to genocide by branding a whole population as evil because of the actions of some small portion of that population.

Posted by: Wayoutwest | Dec 6, 2014 12:59:02 PM | 155

WOW at 155 --

I am hardly branding all Chechens as villains. Certainly Kadyrov and his associates are not villains. I am noting their long and distinguished history of, let us say, rigorous action by elements of the community. It dates at least as far back as the early 1800's and extends through the collapse of the Union on to today.

I think then that I have sufficient grounds to dislike our Chechen jihadis, and I rather doubt if my feelings will escalate further.

Posted by: rufus magister | Dec 6, 2014 1:27:32 PM | 156

Haha the nazis in ukraine have no shame.

Posted by: Anonymous | Dec 6, 2014 2:47:26 PM | 157


You can't be serious about supporting that Putin appointed thug Kadyrov or his turncoat father as an alternative to the Jihadis.

Do you also support, as Putin surely does, al Sisi the dictator in Egypt who destroyed the evil Islamists Muslim Brotherhood?

Posted by: Wayoutwest | Dec 6, 2014 6:43:03 PM | 158

Has Hollande Been Cured of the Bulgarian Syndrome by Putin and Nazarbaev?

"I don't want to be anyone's lawyer, including Putin, but my objective analysis suggests that the desire to organize after Ukraine the same "spring" in Russia has failed, and ended in a Crimean "spring". And don't underestimate the power of Russia. This is the biggest and the richest country in the world," - said the wise and politically independent President of Kazakhstan [Nursultan Nazarbayev] to Hollande in Astana.

I don't know about the French - how were they ever snookered into making someone who was "the sum of all the humiliations suffered during childhood" their president? [That's Nicolas Paul Stéphane Sarközy de Nagy-Bocsa, after him Hollande doesn't even count.] Well we Americans had Harry Truman, didn't we - but I think the President of Kazakhstan - whose own country is bigger than all the duchies of the US' European Unit put together - is on to something.

Posted by: john francis lee | Dec 6, 2014 10:07:22 PM | 159

Great, hour and a half long discussion about the Ukraine crisis.

Published on Oct 11, 2014
Rick Rozoff of STOP NATO, speaks at the Open University of the Left, 10-11-2014, Chicago, Illinois, the Ukraine Crisis and the Battle for the Former Soviet Space

Posted by: guest77 | Dec 6, 2014 10:33:23 PM | 160

WackedOutWesterner now shows himself to be as blindly anti-Russian as he is blindly pro-ISIL.

What an endearing character you're turning out to be. And to be making anti-Russian posts at the Saker of all places... haha.

Are you paid by the post, or are you just a glutton for punishment?

Posted by: guest77 | Dec 6, 2014 10:36:07 PM | 161

to 158 --

I'll defer to the Saker's judgement on the situation in Chechnya.

From the "Russia Insider" pc. linked in 136: "Furthermore, please keep in mind that modern Chechnya is one of the safest places in Russia. Not only do the Chechen authorities have a very large and sophisticated security apparatus (counter-terrorist/SWAT, counter-intelligence, rapid-reaction, intelligence, etc.) but they have the support of the vast majority of the local population."

And from the Vineyard, , his thoughts on the relationship between Putin and Kadyrov. Kadyrov is trusted "to administer Chechnia in any way he sees fit (and with full Russian economic and political support).... The key measure here is this: the Chechens handled the crisis on their own.... If the Russians had been forced to send in their special forces to deal with this attack it would have been a major loss of face for not only Kadyrov, but all the Chechen people who pride themselves on their capability to deal with any threat by themselves."

Posted by: rufus magister | Dec 6, 2014 10:47:26 PM | 162

if you would, correct 162 to "from the Vineyard, his thoughts..." It's that sort of crap I wouldn't miss in print that I do on the screen too often.

Posted by: rufus magister | Dec 6, 2014 11:05:07 PM | 163

Russian Spring


Summary from fronts by combatant Prokhorov:

From 6 a.m. Volnovakha turned on shelling Dokuchayevsk. Ukrainians in area of Stepnoye followed shooting toward Dokuchayevsk. The revenge from combatants for that did not wait very long: combatants’ “Grad” suppressed a battery of 28th brigade in area Stepnoye-Taramchuk.

From Morning Ukrainians began to shell settlement Tsentral`niy near Debal`tsevo. Also skirmishes took place between Debal`tsevo and Nikishino: Ukrainians launched powerful attack here by “Grads” and artillery. Skirmishes erupted between Debal`tsevo and Yenakievo too.

Today, right now in particular, a fight is brewing up in area of Opitnoye – Ukrainian artillery was hit a while ago and is now silent. (Council of National Security of Ukraine also reported shelling of flanks of Ukrainian positions at Opitnoye and Avdeevka.)

In Lugansk Republic, skirmishes continue in customary areas, which are Trekhisbenka, Krimskoye and, near Stanitsa-Luganskaya, Makarovo and Ol`khovka. Insignificant fight was near Schast`ye (only positions of battalion “Aidar” were targeted - 92nd brigade entered an agreement).

Posted by: Fete | Dec 6, 2014 11:20:52 PM | 164

As for your comments - I mean, no one cares. Ever.

I'm the only one who responds to you you, dipshit. I hope you get that. Everyone here knows you are a fraud and a fake, and if they don't, I'll let them know. Forever.

One thing - since you so often come here - lying - to pretend that you care about Syria -I'm glad to see you agree with Parivizi, one of our most virulent anti-Syria posters. It shows who you are - not that your pro-nazi Ukraine posts didn't.

I do want to suggest though, that since you change your screen name so often and lie about everything - I just want to suggest that from now on, just so things are clear, everyone refers to you as "shit_monkey".

I think it is not only completely fitting as to your personality, but will really clear things up around here as to "who is who" seeing as you're using (US state dept. funded) TOR and changing your screen name constantly like the gross little CIA sockpuppet you are.

Now go choke, you little Ariel Sharon nut-hugger.

Posted by: guest77 | Dec 6, 2014 11:39:07 PM | 165

"A court in Azerbaijan has ordered a Radio Free Europe / Radio Liberty [RFE/ RL] journalist held in pre-trial detention for two months Khadija Ismayilova was called Friday to the court in Baku regarding allegations that she attempted to pressure a man to commit suicide.

Supporters outside the court chanted her name as she was taken to a detention center RFE/RL's editor in chief, Nenad Pejic, called the charges outrageous. He said her detention is part of "a two-year campaign to silence a journalist who has investigated government corruption and human-rights abuses in Azerbaijan." Two months ago, authorities in Azerbaijan banned Ismayilova from traveling abroad, preventing her from attending international meetings in both Washington and Prague.

She had been scheduled to testify at a hearing on"combating corruption in the OSCE region" that was called by the U.S committee of liaison with the Organization of Security and Cooperation in Europe Ismayilova has reported extensively about the business dealings involving relatives of Azerbaijan's president, Ilham Aliyev…"

This journalist needs to be assisted. Sounds to me like she has been persecuted for doing her job. This happens to reporters worldwide all to often and must end. Without brave, ethical and responsible souls like this blady the globe will ultimately succomb to all out tyranny.

Posted by: really | Dec 7, 2014 12:16:33 AM | 166


Forgot link, my apologies.

Posted by: really | Dec 7, 2014 12:18:10 AM | 167


Thanks for the link, I'll have a look. I wish you would just stop reading the trolls. They just push your buttons, you jump in the muck with them, they just rinse off and repeat

It's not hard. Get a mouse with a scroll wheel. Tedious but effective.

Posted by: john francis lee | Dec 7, 2014 2:40:41 AM | 168

You know what. It never ceases to amaze me how the powers that be think that just because they may survive a nuclear holocaust how that is somehow positive. Think about it, they have all these under ground bunkers and seed banks in case of nuclear war and think that just because they can be in a luxurious hardened rat hole for a few years that they will be able to emerge after some determined amount of time and pick up where they left off. Well I got breaking news for those who think such irrational and bordering on insane notions, the world would not be the same. No more starbucks, no more fifth avenue, no more Hollywood, no more jet setting, no more expensive cars, no more expensive clothes, no more edible food stuffs, no more electricity, no more indoor plumbling or sewer systems, no more teeveee etc., etc., because all the people who create, manufacture and service those things would be dead. So for all the nuclear holocaust, Armageddon warmongers threatening war with Russia, I have to ask yall this question, are you suicidal? Because if you are suicidal, go talk to a mental health professional or do the world a favor and buy a .22, go into the woods behind your gated posh mansions and shoot yourself in the melon and leave the rest of the worlds inhabitants alone.

Posted by: really | Dec 7, 2014 4:03:20 AM | 169


That talk by Rick Rozoff is the densest delivery of information that I have witnessed in memory. I'm very glad I downloaded the video. Maybe I'll try to transcribe it. That'll take a couple of weeks I'm sure. Thanks a million.

Posted by: john francis lee | Dec 7, 2014 5:48:46 AM | 170

German Foreign Minister Steinmeier’s great power speech to big business

“Through the annexation of Crimea and its actions in eastern Ukraine”, Russia had placed in question “international law and rule-based order” and thus “violated the foundations of both our security and also our well-being”. The Western powers reacted with sanctions “that also cause ourselves economic costs”. The “costs to a permanently endangered Europe” were, however, “far greater”, and the sanctions were therefore “also in the long-term interests of business”, Steinmeier argued.

Steinmeier’s entire speech makes clear that the ruling elites in Germany are no longer willing to “hide” behind any “principles” or restrictions that they had to accept after defeat in World War II. They are preparing to impose the new foreign policy programme on the German people.

What Steinmeier is proposing is an alliance of the state and big capital against the population that is overwhelmingly hostile to the new war course. Such an alliance, combining the rich and the powerful against the majority, is deeply undemocratic. After the terrible experiences of two world wars, opposition to war is deeply rooted, especially in Germany. Nevertheless, the ruling elites have decided to return to a policy of war, and impose this on the population.

When Steinmeier had finished, there was thunderous applause in the ballroom of Hotel Adlon.

The nonsense about the violation "international law and rule-based order” on the part of Russia is doublegoodthink and preemptive neo-con talk on the violation of international law and rule-based order by the United States and Germany.

But the oligarchs in Germany are just as ruthless, greedy, and stupid as the expansionist neo-aggressor politicians seeking Lebensraum. Third time is the charm, I guess, in their view.

If nuclear war is avoided it won't be because Germany failed to do its best to start it.

Posted by: john francis lee | Dec 7, 2014 8:08:11 AM | 171


One thought that they would accept Crimea by now, but no they just keep whining. For what? It makes no sense.
Also it seems that Germany could be free only when they kick out the occupying american soldiers.

Why are there even american soldiers in Germany 2014? A proud and strong nation like that of Germay. It makes no sense.

Posted by: Anonymous | Dec 7, 2014 8:40:48 AM | 172


There's no doubt in my mind that the metropole has 'the dirt' on all its European Unit politicians. Have you seen the video linked to @160? The history and details are amazing. Just amazing. Nothing secret, just marshaled public information.

If you read the whole article linked to above there is the assertion that Germany plans to follow what it perceives to be the interests of its own 'elite' rather than that of the US'.

I hope that the overall effect of the sanctions break the 'elite' resolve and that the differential fallout from the re-routed southern gas pipeline fracks and cracks the European Unit and NATO solidarity.

It seems to me that the telling blow will have to be delivered to the USD, for the neo-cons in Washington have only the one plan for 'full spectrum world dominance' and have bet the ranch on achieving it. Better we Americans lose the ranch than that we all gain another war and lose the world.

Someone made the remark that the oil flood can only last 6 months before the Saudis throttle in production. If Russia can survive and gain control of its own fiscal policy and make the ruble rather than the USD the national currency, price their energy exports in rubles, and expand credit so that they can rebuild the non-resource economy within Russia there's a real chance for an alternative for us all.

Posted by: john francis lee | Dec 7, 2014 10:23:18 AM | 173

So says (hopes) I, at any rate.

Posted by: john francis lee | Dec 7, 2014 10:27:30 AM | 174

So says (hopes) I, at any rate.

Posted by: john francis lee | Dec 7, 2014 10:27:32 AM | 175


Depending on Russia for an alternative is a recipe for disappointment. They are still Capitalists and desire to join with the US in the New World Order not create some utopian alternative.

The chances for Russia and the BRICS to counter the US is small and their actions are mostly defensive, trying to protect themselves from direct manipulation. Russia makes guns and sells oil and little else that could be used to counter the Hegemon.

Posted by: Wayoutwest | Dec 7, 2014 10:59:23 AM | 176

Now the psychos in Israel bomb Syria again!

Posted by: Anonymous | Dec 7, 2014 11:15:58 AM | 177

to really 169 --

Ah but they'll have their "Purity of Essence" (to borrow from Gen. Jack D. Ripper) -- they will have not compromised with the lowly help (aka the 99 pct) over their Randian vision of pristine "free markets" controlled by their oh-so-wise selves. Sure its a bomb shelter, but it's one built on traditional values of god-fearing people. Think of the underground all-American dystopia of "A Boy and His Dog."

Here's a fun fact -- the film stars a young Don Johnson, of Miami Vice fame.

Posted by: rufus magister | Dec 7, 2014 11:19:09 AM | 178

" IAF bombed 2 military targets near Damascus airport & Dimas, stockpiles of Russian S-300 anti-aircraft missiles"

Posted by: Anonymous | Dec 7, 2014 11:42:22 AM | 179

@ rufus magister, 152:

Too deliciously ironic not to post -- A Hundred Thousand Dollars For a Job at the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine.

The future: introducing the free market directly into law enforcement and regulation.

You can't make this stuff up.

@Anonymous, 171:

Why are there even american soldiers in Germany 2014? A proud and strong nation like that of Germay. It makes no sense.

Lord Ismay stated in 1949 that NATO's goal was "to keep the Russians out, the Americans in, and the Germans down..."

Posted by: Vintage Red | Dec 7, 2014 2:31:00 PM | 180


I agree that the Russians are up against it but they have certainly and finally seen the light and no longer ' ... desire to join with the US in the New World Order ... ' which they now understand certainly and necessarily requires the vivisection of Russia, although there seem still to be closet liberals in Russia who feel that they personally have something to lose if Russia itself is not defeated.

Even if the neo-cons at the helm of the USG and their European Unit 'win' we all lose, so certainly I am rooting for the Russians and any and all else who assert that TIAA.

The Russians have begun, surely, to drive a wedge between the governments that compose the EU, and the nations that remain still trapped in the EU carapace seem increasingly ready to molt, as Steinmeier freely admits himself above in his appeal to the 'captains of German industry' to line up with his born-again Reich against the German people.

It ain't over till it's over ... though it may unwell mushroom 'all over' indeed, thanks to the neo-con 'US and its New World Order'.

Posted by: john francis lee | Dec 7, 2014 5:42:07 PM | 181

Russian Spring


Overview of map of combat activities: “Debal`tsevo pocket fall apart at the seams. The occupants continue to pump up armored hardware and personnel.”

Information from south frontiers is scanty. Battles proceed in form of position struggle, that is, without success on either side.

Father north clouds become gloomier. Yesterday, in settlement Granitnoye, Ukrainian forces transferred two units of territorial battalion “Aidar” of approximately 300 men plus enforcement of a tank company. Because the combatants do not try any offensive here, clearly, this transfer is meant for attack.

Donetsk is customary subjected to regular shelling. The enemy artillery strikes presumably from Maksimilianovky and Gerorgiyevka on west and from Tonen`koye, Peski, Avdeevka on north.

Situation in Donetsk airport remains unchanged. Time to time skirmishes would erupt because the new terminal and the air traffic control tower are controlled by Ukrainian forces. However the Ukrainian “Cyborgs” find themselves in very difficult situation as supplies do not reach soldiers - either being liquidated or fall in hands of combatants.

Also at the moment, a battle is going on at south-west proximities to Avdeevka.

Next is Gorlovka. A stretch of highway Dzerzhisk-Mayorsk is under constant fighting. The combatants battle to liberate proximate settlements and to establish control over highway up to Dzerzhinsk.

Next, this night, Yenakievo was hit by artillery from neighboring Uglegorsk; and, according to the map, Ukrainian forces had pushed forward toward Yenakievo. As result, Nikoteyevka and Olenovka were probably fully regained by Ukrainian forces. The next prize is going to be of course Yenakiyevo. Finally, what is called Debal`tsevo pocket begins to crack at its seams little by little, which comes to no surprise, given convergence of tens of thousands of enemy troops and thousands units of armored hardware. Holding back such an onslaught is simply impossible.

Combatants’ Nikishino continued dueling Redkodub, Kamenka, Debal`tsevo.

Further on to Lugansk. Battle at Bakhmutka has lowered intensity. Pervomaysk. Kirovsk and Stakhanov continued to suffer from everyday shelling by Ukrainian forces. Most difficult situation is in Pervomaysk. It seems Ukranians try to turn Pervomaysk in new Ilovaysk, where 75% of population and infrastructure were erased. Pervomaysk is being hit from Popasnaya, Kamishevakha, Zolotoye, outpost 27, Nizhnee – that is, Pervomaysk is being subjected to real terror.

Going further to Stanitsa-Luganskaya. Half of hamlet Valuyskoye fell under combatants’ control. Also, the combatants are closing on hamlet Ol`khovoye. However, the time is running out for the combatants, because Ukrainians, Having apprehended the threat, transferred reinforcement in Makarovo, where arrived: 20 units of armored hardware and 10 lorry trucks of infantry…

Posted by: Fete | Dec 7, 2014 11:34:47 PM | 182

Cracks do seem to be appearing in the European Unit

In an interview published Sunday, German Chancellor Angela Merkel said that reforms undertaken by France and Italy are insufficient.

“The European Commission has drawn up a calendar according to which France and Italy are due to present additional measures" Merkel said to newspaper Die Welt, adding that she agrees with the commission's remark that what has been put on the table so far is insufficient.

Soon after publication of the interview, the governments of Rome and Paris expressed anger over Merkel's statements and urged her to focus on her country's economic woes instead of lecturing others.

“The Italian government has never permitted itself to hand out marks to a European Union member country and we ask Germany for the same respect," Sandro Gozi, the Italian deputy-secretary for EU affairs, said in a statement.

Meanwhile, French Finance Minister Michel Sapin also criticized Merkel for her remarks saying that his country is making reforms because they are necessary for France, not to please a European leader.

"In Germany the population is decreasing every year and in 10 or 20 years because of this we will be in a better position. Germany is in a better position now because of the reforms made did a decade ago," Sapin added.

Last month, the EU gave France and Italy an extra three months to “fix” their budgets, stressing the need for more austerity measures, and warned they would still incur penalties if they failed to curb spending.

Germany has been demanding the country’s implement the cuts, which are widely deplored by the people in France and Italy, where massive demonstrations against the austerity measures have taken place.

Perhaps Minister Steinmeier will be seeking a little more military discipline not only in Russia but in France and Italy as well ... again?

Posted by: john francis lee | Dec 8, 2014 1:55:09 AM | 183

Very intriguing article - I don't know enough about economics to know wether it is right or not, but this idea that Russia and China have been buying up gold like crazy (and what this means for the dollar) has been bouncing around in my head lately.

Very few people understand what Putin is doing at the moment. And almost no one understands what he will do in the future.

No matter how strange it may seem, but right now, Putin is selling Russian oil and gas only for physical gold.

Putin is not shouting about it all over the world. And of course, he still accepts US dollars as an intermediate means of payment. But he immediately exchanges all these dollars obtained from the sale of oil and gas for physical gold!

Especially interesting - since the US is itself holding the price of gold down.

Maybe this massive inequality we see in the United States is more than just simple greed. Those at the top are doing two things maybe: protecting themselves against inflation and doing their damndest to control the economy in the face of a possible collapse (albeit, for their own benefit).

I've been reading Lenin's Imperialism: The Highest Stage of Capitalism. If I have it right: It is all about how industrial cartels emerge in an effort to control their sectors of the economy for purposes of profits and the ability to plan and avoid downturns (JK Gailbraith makes similar points in The New Industrial State). Lenin then discusses how big banks (often with close ties to the government) work their way into the control of these industrial cartels, and how, eventually, this leads to imperialism: "nations" (re: capitalists) dividing the world up amongst themselves which eventually leads to open warfare.

It's all about increasing levels of control and centralization and, humans being humans, the competition and aggression that engenders. And it seems to me that's what we are seeing today.

I hadn't read much Lenin before, but its interesting. He writes much like Marx's wrote his journalistic work. Lots of figures, but clear simple stories. It's quite readable.

The more I learn about Marx and Lenin... It's kind of funny to think about this: May Day parades in the USSR - marching around under the eight story high head of... a semi-broke journalist and a scruffy teacher. Imagine a country 100 years from now where you have enormous granite monuments everywhere to...Pepe Escobar!

Posted by: guest77 | Dec 8, 2014 4:21:32 AM | 184

Brilliant speech by Sarah Wagenknecht of the German Left - criticizing Merkel for serving US interests to detriment of EU population/economy.

She absolutely tears Merkel apart. And rightly goes after ZBig as well! She calls out Poroshenko for his "Total War" statement and goes after Yats, and rightfully points out that the Ukrainian security services are in the hands of outright Nazis.

And the calls Merkel a coward for not having the strength to say "no" the architects of the plan: the Americans.

I do wonder wether it is a case of not being courageous enough on Merkel's part - or is instead a desire by Germany's Merkel to gather for Germany some of the spoils of the Cold War.

Posted by: guest77 | Dec 8, 2014 4:51:23 AM | 185


That's an inspiring speech on the floor of the German parliament. I cannot imagine anything like it coming from the slugs in our American congress.

But is it 'just words' ... there were less than 1500 views ,,, I'd hope for 1.5 million ... 150k, at least.

I do find it uplifting, though. I'll be back tomorrow to see if it's 'gone viral'. That's what is required. How can the Germans prefer that tired old East German apparatchik, retrofit to serve the American instead of the Soviet masters, to this other East German tower of power? Sahra Wagenknecht

Posted by: john francis lee | Dec 8, 2014 8:19:54 AM | 186

Ukraine Receives New Weapons

The Government of Ukraine held a ceremony on Saturday, December 6th, with the country’s President, Petro Poroshenko, reviewing newly donated weapons, from undisclosed donors.

According to the official announcement, “The Armed Forces' units received tanks Т-64BМ ‘Bulat’, tanks Т-64 BV, Т-72 B1, Т-72UA, Т-72A, BТR-3е and BТR-4е, self-propelled artillery 2C1 and helicopters Mi-8 and Mi-2. The President personally inspected all.” Poroshenko said: "We are providing the troops with new armored vehicles, precise anti-tank means, counterbattery means, means of communication and protection systems. At the same time, we are holding negotiations with our partners on the procurement of modern weapons that are not produced in Ukraine.”

Weapons bought from other countries can be paid for only with borrowed money, because the Government of Ukraine is basically broke and soaring even deeper into debt, and is sharply cutting back on pensions and other expenditures than military, which is receiving the Government’s virtually total focus.

Any added loans will never be able to be paid back, because Ukraine will not be able to pay back all of the existing loans. Consequently, all countries that are now ‘lending’ additional funds to Ukraine are simply donating to Ukraine.

Furthermore, the IMF is demanding that the breakaway Ukrainian areas be conquered in order for additional loans to be made to the Ukrainian Government. So, all newly loaned money will be going to Ukraine’s military.

Substitute the USA for the Ukraine above and you have the monstrous, fateful symmetry between 'donor' and 'recipient' of such lethal, murderous largesse. Looking at each other the degenerate oligarchs in Ukriane and the USA see only themselves, their own reflection, and their common, crumbling house of cards.

They are flailing about, sinking, drowning, desperate to attract the phantom Russian troops they keep projecting on their big screen MSM.

Desperate, they now see nuclear war as the last and only way out of their problems, just as a hopeless junky sees his last 'hotshot' fix.

Posted by: john francis lee | Dec 8, 2014 7:14:09 PM | 187

Guantanamo Refugees Return to 'Normal Life': Uruguay Minister

The six Guantanamo former prisoners are welcome to start new lives in Uruguay, where they landed on Sunday as refugees, the country’s defense minister said Monday.

This is the largest transfer of prisoners from Guantanamo so far, with Bermuda accepting four and El Salvador accepting two. Another 136 people are still in the infamous prison.

An October survey showed that 58 percent of Uruguayans rejected President Jose Mujica's proposal to receive the prisoners. Mujica and Barack Obama started negotiating the transfer since March, as Obama has failed to close the illegal prison despite his electoral promise to do so.

“Were it not for Uruguay, I would still be in the black hole in Cuba today,” Abedlhadi Omar Faraj said. “It is difficult for me to express how grateful I am for the immense trust that you, the Uruguayan people, placed in me and the other prisoners when you opened the doors of your country to us … We cannot thank you enough for welcoming us in your land.”

Jose Mujica is compelled by a humane sense of justice to face a majority in his own country who - not without reason - wonder why it has fallen to them to help the people so abused by our cowardly Nobel Peace Prize Laureate for so long, his promise to shutdown his torture chamber in Guantanamo, regardless.

Of the country’s 3.3 million people, there are only about 300 Muslims. The government recently welcomed 42 Syrian refugees in October, and has announced it will receive another 80 or so.

In Uruguay 3.3 million people sweep up behind us 313 million Americans who cannot be bothered sweeping up after our incontintent elephants and jackasses in government.

Uruguay towers above our pygmy Colossus in the North as does Cuba, cleaning up after our colossal failure at biowarfare experiments in Africa.

(I see that Sahra Wagenknecht's views have more than doubled since yesterday. I'll check again tomorrow.)

Posted by: jfl | Dec 8, 2014 11:15:21 PM | 188

Russian Spring


Overview of map of combat activities (video)

Self-propelled artillery units “Pion” pulled in to Volnovakha. “Pion” is a powerful 203 mm caliber artillery system able for accurate shooting up to 50 km away. The combatants regard such units as intent to assault Dokuchayevsk and an outpost near Elenovka. As of today, insignificant clashes evolve near Novotroitskoye. Seemingly, the combatants have left this settlement and retreated to Dokuchayevsk.

The combatants also report personnel and hardware in great numbers at an outpost west of Docuchayevsk. So far this force stands still, but odds that it will fight through toward west of Dokuchayevsk.

On west frontiers of Donetsk Ukrainian forces slowly press toward Petrovskiy district of Donetsk and essentially fight on its fringes. In addition to Petrovskiy, other districts are under massive bombardment. These are Kievskiy, Kuybishvskiy, Oktyabr`skiy and Severniy close to the airport.

Situation in the airport is not changing: active combat is taking place near Peski and Opitnoye, plus reconnaissance activity on south-west of Avdeevka.

Gorlovka remains a side of constant and massive bombardment. Fierce battles center near settlements Mayorsk and Shuma. Defying outnumbering Ukrainian forces, the combatants step no meter back.

In Debal`tsevo pocket Ukrainian forces are at close quarters to Yenakievo fortifying newly gained positions. Olenovka could not be retained and passed over to Ukrainians.

Nikishino is being regularly shelled and assaulted in a bid to expel combatants. The combatants hold their grounds and confidently repel all attacks.

In Lugansk Republic, active campaign is developing near Stanitsa-Luganskaya. Frontier detachments of combatants engage fight deeper in territories under Ukrainian control and have approached settlement Kolesnikovo – area greatly fortified by Ukrainians.

Posted by: Fete | Dec 9, 2014 12:08:07 AM | 189


What a beautiful and 100% accurate speech, so refreshing to hear from a German politician. Too bad it will be ignored by the prostitute Merkel and the majority of sold-out politicians.

Posted by: Harry | Dec 9, 2014 7:33:57 AM | 191


Why no comments negative or positive about my linked story or comment? Is MOA afraid of the billionaire and teillionaire financial charlatans, economic terrorists, profit warmongers and thugs?

Posted by: really | Dec 10, 2014 12:12:58 AM | 192

Russian Spring


Summary from fronts by combatant Prokhorov:

Currently in the area of Debal`tsevo pocket (perhaps Nikishino) are booming explosions of the ceasefire.

Ukrainian encampment hear hamlet Verkhnyaya Ol`khovaya (north of Stanitsa-Luganskaya) was hit by two salvos.

As I told before, hidden mobilization commenced last week. The enlistment offices in hurry ransacked registration cards, and hordes of people were ordered medical examination beginning December 1. Naturally, the official announcement (of mobilization) was expected on 1st, but Poltorak (Ukrainian Defense Minister) pronounced it on 6th.

More important, however, even Ukrainians admit, this mobilization purports to compensate losses (yet formally - rotation of March mobilization), and achieves no qualitative upgrade of Ukrainian Army.

Overall, Ukrainians eagerly borrow American tactic to report losses. America also officially admits very insignificant number of fallen in Afghanistan; reports, by default, disclose fallen in a single operation. If a congressman inquiries a specific summary, he is truly informed of fallen (in specific operation). And if he knows nothing of others (operations), he gets no info. That is, “you do not ask – we do not tell”.

Russian Spring



From “Khmuriy” (“Sullen”) (Head of Donetsk Republic’s intelligence) this night had been a stage of massive bombardment of Donetsk by “Grad” systems. The great number of destruction and casualties… “Khmuriy” writes that the morning is so far calm.

Under settlement Pavlopol` (Mariupol` region), making use of the “ceasefire day”, Ukrainians advanced positions really close to combatants’ and were digging fortifications, because the corps’ command (the general’s name is Orlov (also “Kazbek”)) forbade to open fire if opponent farther than 500 meters.

Question: Sooner or later, Ukrainian Army will destroy itself


Just before that happens, they turn Donbass in “Moon landscape”. Overall, the anticipation of “self destruction” of Ukrainian forces and Ukraine as a whole is groundless. Psychos and alcoholics are able to fight fairly well, sitting in trenches and firing at times “at areas” if there is no one to punt them out of the positions.

Posted by: Fete | Dec 10, 2014 12:41:35 AM | 193

really at 190 --

Well, if you insist --

The causes of the pending Systemic Financial Crisis that the Forbes piece talks about are all fairly well known.

My personal favorites:

"4. No one understands the derivative risk positions of the Too Big To Fail Banks..." And these of course caused the 2008 troubles, the effects of which still linger.

7. Nor does the Fed have any oversight powers over the Shadow Banking System, which amounts to $75 trillion worldwide of financial activities by non-banks that in 2008 triggered runs on the system that threatened its stability. Shadow banking...increases the likelihood that systemic risk will be triggered from the breakdown and gaps that exist between it and traditional banking."

I didn't see anything about asking for a bailout, but I suppose that is the logical byproduct of another recession.

Posted by: rufus magister | Dec 10, 2014 12:53:34 AM | 194

@194 rufus magister

Thanks for the response, I had a feeling you would. I felt like I took a sh!t on MOA's dinner.

Posted by: really | Dec 10, 2014 1:43:21 AM | 195

Palestinian minister killed by israeli troops

This might get big.

Posted by: Anonymous | Dec 10, 2014 5:50:18 AM | 196


I've transcribed the audio track from Rick Rozoff, Open University of the Left, 11 Oct 2014.

I don't have the space available that I used to so it might disappear after a week or so. If you'd like to have a copy to read later, you ought to copy it now.

Posted by: jfl | Dec 10, 2014 6:17:55 AM | 197

Two days after link posted here, Sahra Wagenknecht's performance has gone from 1500 => 3000 => 8300 views. 17000 tomorrow?

Posted by: jfl | Dec 10, 2014 6:28:23 AM | 198

Israel Shamir: What Can Christmas Trees Tell You About The Russian Economy

In the entire world, subservient to America - from riots in Ferguson to discontent in France, there is a growing anticipation of the collapse of the dollar pyramid. This is why there is so much anger on Capitol Hill.

America only knows how to print dollars and rattle sabers, to blackmail and bribe politicians, to provoke conflicts and to bomb the defenseless.

When was the last time you saw something made in America? It lives on credit, and its excessive debt of $17 trillion will bury it as soon as a leader emerges, able to resist it.

Russia, the political leader of the BRICS and the majority of mankind, is close to overthrowing the American yoke.

We will know by spring.

Posted by: jfl | Dec 10, 2014 6:52:44 AM | 199

Thank you jfl. Rick's talk was an eye opener for me regarding NATO. I am amazed that you could do that complete transcription.
Hope others will take advantage of your efforts and copy it.

Posted by: juannie | Dec 10, 2014 8:25:30 AM | 200

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