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November 6, 2014
U.S. State Department (Again) Behaves At Kindergarten Level

A few days ago there was a preparatory meeting for a nuclear security summit, a global meeting initiated by the U.S. to control access to nuclear resources. Russia, which believes that the IAEA is the agency that should take care of the issue, did not take part. The State Department pretended to be surprised by Russia’s no-show:

Russia has failed to show up at a meeting planning the 2016 Nuclear Security Summit, U.S and European officials said Monday, in a potentially serious blow to efforts by President Barack Obama to cement his legacy as leaving the world safer from nuclear terrorism than when he took office.

The officials said it was not immediately clear whether Moscow intended to boycott the summit itself or was just temporarily showing displeasure over Washington’s harsh condemnation of Moscow’s role in Ukraine unrest and the U.S. lead in orchestrating Western sanctions and other punitive measures in response.

The State Department now admits, after Russia pushed back, that these “officials” lied:

Russia has told the United States that it will not attend a 2016 nuclear security summit, the State Department said on Wednesday, in the latest sign of frosty ties between Washington and Moscow.

Explaining why it would stay away, Moscow said it doubted the value of the summit, which is to be held in Chicago in 2016, and believed the views of states which disagreed with the event’s organizers would be ignored.

“Russia delivered a demarche to the United States in advance of last week’s preparatory meetings informing us that it no longer planned to participate in the 2016 Nuclear Security Summit,” State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said.

There was no explanation for why the “U.S and European officials” lied about the issue. Who was stupid enough to believe that such lies would be helpful for anything? By lying these “officials” achieved two points:

  1. No one can trust any news based on “U.S and European officials” claims. These “officials” may well be or are even likely lying as the above case shows and anything those “officials” say, even on trivialities, may be the opposite of what they will say tomorrow.
  2. Russia is pissed off even more and any future cooperation with it will become more difficult.

The Russian Foreign Ministry said it had informed Washington in mid-October about its decision. “We regard the recent leaks about (the decision) in the American media as an unsuccessful attempt to put pressure on the Russian side in order to change our position,” the ministry said. “We consider such efforts counterproductive.”

I for one do not understand what the people at Foggy Bottom are thinking. Kindergarten behavior like this will achieve what?

Comments

The United States cannot be trusted on any level. There is no statement so small that doesn’t emerge out of a perverted worldview. The USA operates on the world stage with all the delicacy of a serial liar, a hysteric, and a sociopath.

Posted by: guest77 | Nov 6 2014 17:37 utc | 1

Kindergarden behaviour from foggy bottom will impress the hell out of most preschool scholars, a lot of the junior high maturity crowd, and still a few of the high school set maturity level but hardly any of the precious few adults existing in the country. Can anyone discover any subject the Wall St./Washington axis of evil does not deceive or misrepresent about? Is there anything at all? Not that it is a matter of pathological deception but a belief in their capacity to tell you what they think you want to hear. This is what is being sold and the buyers are breaking down the doors to get themselves some; such is the power of the free market. What truly amazes is the buyers will surrender everything of value for a handful of magic beans, a sparkle pony and the hint of unicorn.

Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | Nov 6 2014 18:15 utc | 2

I’m starting to think that the there’s an Office of Counterproductivity that runs the entire USG.

Posted by: Colinjames | Nov 6 2014 18:24 utc | 3

Thinking? They’re thinking in the same manner a Bible belt god botherer thinks: that their masters will be unhappy if they cast the least shadow of independence. Although history is rife with craven duplicity in diplomatic circles, I dare say the current administration approaches the zenith of churlish self aggrandizement. I think too much of it goes back to “The Crisis of Democracy: On the Governability of Democracies”

Posted by: Dave | Nov 6 2014 19:54 utc | 4

cheap propaganda stunt gone wrong? it seems the usa is determined to make russia out to appear as a monster, with lies or anything else necessary to perpetuate the image..

Posted by: james | Nov 6 2014 19:56 utc | 5

The bullshit has become the paradigm… People like myself, who cant sell anything very well, including political veiwepoints, will simply remain obsolete in this particular paradigm. Liars, bulshit artists and wordsmiths with politcal acuman, and above all, psycopaths, will excell in this world … Bullshit talks…

Posted by: Dan | Nov 6 2014 19:58 utc | 6

The target of the misinformation was likely western news consumers. The US wants to prime the war pump with vilification of Russia for the cold/hot war the West is creating. Russia has already figured out that the summit was a sham, so no policy was to come from the meeting. Damned if Russia goes, damned if it doesn’t.

Posted by: yellowsnapdragon | Nov 6 2014 21:25 utc | 7

Good article on the current situation in Syria
http://english.al-akhbar.com/content/syrian-foreign-minister-muallem-our-diplomatic-priorities-are-ensure-resilience-secure-more-

Posted by: Mina | Nov 6 2014 21:46 utc | 8

In other US news, Russia escalates further by unfriending the State Department Facebook page.

Posted by: Pluto | Nov 6 2014 22:35 utc | 9

The us state dept lying about this is baffling. There was nothing to gain from lying. Now the state depts credibility is eben more riddled with bullet holes of political amateurism. The meetings were not to be held until 2016, a lot could change and Russia could join the talks at the last minute. No country would protest a Russian late reservation to nuclear arms reduction deliberations. This is absolutely rediculous on the US State departments behalf. Baffling…

Posted by: really | Nov 6 2014 22:54 utc | 10

The last paragraph of the Reuters article suggests that the summit is a device to put pressure on Iran. We don’t know China’s position on the summit, but it hardly seems in their interest to single out Iran. If China were not to attend, the summit would be all NATO and have very little credibility.

Posted by: Thirdeye | Nov 6 2014 23:18 utc | 11

@10 I don’t think it’s baffling. State like any bureaucracy which is unregulated and run by venal idiots (Kerry, Clinton, Rice, Powell, Albright) especially idiots under pressure (the nominal right won’t hold back; they are going to go after Obama and executive departments; the VA is the tip of the ice berg) will sink to the lowest common denominator.

Posted by: NotTimothyGeithner | Nov 7 2014 0:03 utc | 12

It looks more like shitstirring on the level of Jeffrey Goldberg’s “chickenshit” column in the week before the US election. Zionist media hacks are apt to know a few neocon underlings in the State Department who will be glad to give anonymous “background” to push a hawkish agenda:

The officials, who demanded anonymity because their information was confidential, said that with the exception of Russia, all of the 54 countries that participated in the March summit attended the preparatory meeting in Washington.
Patrick Ventrell, a spokesman for the National Security Council at the White House, said the U.S. regretted the Russian decision not to attend.
“As far as the U.S. is concerned, the door remains open to their joining future such meetings,” he told The Associated Press. Asked if the Russian absence meant a boycott of the summit, Ventrell said, “You would have to ask them.”
Russian government offices that could comment were closed for the night.
Moscow’s absence from the next summit would clearly encourage other nations skeptical of the U.S. initiative to resist more international oversight of their nuclear facilities. But nuclear analyst Kenneth Luongo said that even if Moscow shows up in 2016, its boycott of planning meetings “sends a terrible signal and reflects horribly on the Russian priorities.”

Posted by: Rusty Pipes | Nov 7 2014 1:49 utc | 13

salon trying a bold experiment in free speech?
‘There are always plenty of answers floating around. I take almost all of them to lie somewhere between misguided and malevolent by intent, but I will get to this in a minute. In as few words as I can manage, here is my thought: Putin has fallen drastically afoul of Washington — and his war is with Washington more than the Europeans — because those in deep slumber do not like to be awakened.
It is an irresistible time to consider this problem for two reasons. One, in history two sure signs of imperial decline are deafness and blindness in the imperial capital, and as of the past year or so Washington exhibits seriously deteriorating symptoms. The willful refusal of our foreign policy cliques to look squarely at our world and listen to those in it is getting dangerous.
Two, Putin has just delivered a speech every American deserves to hear and consider. Few will have done so for the simple reason that our media declined to tell you about the Russian leader’s presentation to an annual gathering of leaders and thinkers called the Valdai International Discussion Club, a Davos variant. Here is the Kremlin transcript, and now readers have two things to decide: What they think of the speech and what they think of the American media for not reporting it.’
etc
http://www.salon.com/2014/11/07/the_new_york_times_doesnt_want_you_to_understand_this_vladimir_putin_speech/

Posted by: brian | Nov 7 2014 2:07 utc | 14

This is getting more serious than just US state acting like buffoons. There is a relentless anti-Russian message that has been coming out of Washington for some time now. I think this demonization began in earnest after Putin’s Munich speech in 2007. He basically announced that he believed in a multipolar world and it was time for the US to yield on its insistence of a uni- i.e. US — polar world. The US has been sniping ever since. I know many here think that the Ukrainian crises was deliberately engineered by Washington as a way to punish Russia for its insolence. Last winter I thought the US simply blundered into this mess but now am beginning to accept that this crisis is deliberate policy. It is incredibly dangerous and irresponsible if so — so little to gain by doing this but so much to lose if things spin out of control. Also with a group of war-mongering Republican senators assuming leadership positions it will be very difficult for Kerry and Obama to tone this destructive propaganda war.

Posted by: ToivoS | Nov 7 2014 3:23 utc | 15

On November 3, I had a good chuckle when b posted the following by-line as an intro to the most recent Open Thread…
(Sorry for light, boring posting while I am busy with some urgent personal issues.)
What I found so amusing was the fact that waiting for the “take charge” sorta guys and gals, speaking on behalf of the Obama Admin & State Dept, to say something intelligent, relevant, interesting, or even grown-up, is a sure-fire recipe for boredom and other varieties of ennui.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Nov 7 2014 3:39 utc | 16

15
So basically you’re 10 months behind everyone else?
Gee that must be tough

Posted by: JMcC | Nov 7 2014 3:56 utc | 17

Brian @#14,
Well, he at least essayed the effort, and Salon did post it. There were some few in the comments section who seemed to get his point, but all too many were the usual mindless USA! USA! ilk. That Mr. Smith didn’t even trouble himself to find out who that Orlov fella was, and what his qualifications were for having formed his opinion concerning the importance of President Putin’s speech was rather jarring, I must admit. Oh, well.
ToivoS @ #15,
Yes, the level of deliberately-fostered hostility toward Russia and its President is way beyond concerning at this point. And now we have the advent of Ol’ Blood ‘n’ Guts John McCain as Chairman of the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations to look forward to. And next, HerTurn, the HillaBeast, ramping up for a run at the presidency. Christe eleison…

Posted by: JerseyJeffersonian | Nov 7 2014 3:59 utc | 18

Posted by: brian | Nov 6, 2014 9:07:13 PM | 14
Thanks v much for the link. I’ve read the Salon article (and the kool-ade commemts) and looking forward to reading the Kremlin transcript. Unlike Obama, Kerry & Bibi, Putin’s speeches are never mawkish, irrelevant or infantile.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Nov 7 2014 4:57 utc | 19

Dan @6: “The bullshit has become the paradigm.”
An apt discription of the Empire’s rhetoric.

Posted by: ben | Nov 7 2014 5:26 utc | 20

#17 So basically you’re 10 months behind everyone else?
Not really. I often attribute bad decisions to complex interactions between competing power centers and saw Kerry and Obama walking into Ukraine mess as not paying attention to what was happening with some of the lesser players in government. I am very suspicious of the simple minded left that always postulates some invisible “deep state” entity that is consciously making decisions for the players we see on the field.
With the situation in Ukraine it is pretty clear that if the current admin had just blundered into the events that culminated on Feb 22 of this year they could have done things to attenuate the crisis. Obviously they have done just the opposite by encouraging the Kiev regime to go to war in Donbas. Given that we can conclude that Obama and Kerry are continuing with a post cold war anti-Russian policy.That began with Clinton in the expansion of NATO eastward, continued with Bush’s expansion into the Baltics, encouragement of Georgia to invade S. Ossetia and the building of anti-missile defenses in Poland and now Obama’s actions. Just because a simple mind comes up with a prediction that bears out, it does not mean the explanatory framework that led to the prediction is valid.

Posted by: ToivoS | Nov 7 2014 7:44 utc | 21

There are some people who agree with you prediction of no Ukrainian offensive against Novorosdsiya, Toivos …
Kiev denies Ukrainian forces’ offensive

Ukrainian military are not conducting offensive warfare in Donbass: it is the militiamen who had painted the insignia of Ukrainian army on their armoured vehicles and are shelling their own positions, said the press-center of the ATO in Facebook.

… but you and they might be wrong …
News summary of Novorossiya 6 November 2014

-Inhabitants of Makeevka reported approximately 100 times about revelations of explosive objects
-Ukrainian national guardians keep on striking Donetsk.
-All Ukrainian authorities are trying to reinforce boundary zones.
-The things of Ukrainian army look so black that the Nazis are stealing humanitarian aid in Nikolaev, which was collected for the transfer to the zone ATO.
-People died in Kirovsk LPR because of attack from the side of AFU Army.
-Entry to the beach has been mined in the Herson region.

… and Obama/Kerry now have the ‘devil who will make them do it’ …
Incoming Hawkish Senate Drawing Up War Plans

McCain confirmed such meetings, saying there have been considerable discussions on plans to start sending arms to the Ukrainian government, hoping to get that (currently ceasefired) civil war going again, with similar eyes on further damaging already soured US relations with both China and Russia.

… The last line in the last paragraph of Fete’s last post

“They simply chose a model that I call glistering Avalon(?). That is, they intend to retain the United States and some satellites as the Great Britain in the first place, which is tied to the US by number of parameters, kind of an isle of stability. All the rest is to blow to rubbish…”

… points up what seems to have been the case since Libya, at least.
And now Dempsey is going to Israel to take lessons in the ‘proper’ PR response to naked genocide …
Pentagon Aims to Copy Israel Tactics on Civilian Deaths in War

It’s not just a rhetorical lauding of Israel, as Dempsey announced he is sending a “lessons learned team” to learn how Israel managed to limit civilian deaths to this extent (some 70% of overall deaths in the conflict), so that the US might follow their example.
Dempsey was particularly fond of Israel’s tactic of dropping leaflets to warn citizens away from potential targets, even though in practice Israel was ordering civilians out of every single part of the Gaza Strip at once, and with no place for them to go.

Posted by: jfl | Nov 7 2014 9:19 utc | 22

Good news from KSA never last too long
http://angryarab.blogspot.de/2014/11/the-ouster-of-saudi-culture-and-media.html

Posted by: Mina | Nov 7 2014 10:02 utc | 23

21
I am very suspicious of the simple minded left
Theres many here that actually think that YOU are the “simple-minded” left
that always postulates some invisible “deep state” entity that is consciously making decisions for the players we see on the field.
And yet thats exactly what we have in Ukraine. Surely a sophistimicated and nuanced deep thinker such as yourself should have been able to spot it
As for your 2nd paragraph?
Well anyone so blind that theyre permanently 10 months behind really should probavly give it a rest when it comes to further analysis. I mean if you’re so incapable that you’re permanently 10 months behind then why keep compounding the error?

Just because a simple mind comes up with a prediction that bears out, it does not mean the explanatory framework that led to the prediction is valid.

Roflmao
given the fact that youre permanently 10 months behind, it wouldnt be very smart to cast aspertions on others who aren’t permanently 10 months behind
But then “smart” is not probably not something you get accused of too often, eh! 🙂

Posted by: JMcC | Nov 7 2014 10:16 utc | 24

Brian @ 14: I think what you wrote bears repeating:
“One, in history two sure signs of imperial decline are deafness and blindness in the imperial capital, and as of the past year or so Washington exhibits seriously deteriorating symptoms. The willful refusal of our foreign policy cliques to look squarely at our world and listen to those in it is getting dangerous.”
The isolated, greedy, and lazy decision-makers in Washington have outsourced and privatized their brains to the highest corporate bidders and those with the most depraved ideologies.

Posted by: madisolation | Nov 7 2014 12:14 utc | 25

Seems more like a public relations play: if we are talking about the State Department (i.e. the new US Department of War), the statements rely on US control of the world MSM to ensure that the US message drowns out the Russian actual behavior as a foghorn overpowers a kazoo.

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 7 2014 13:24 utc | 26

@ToivoS (15):

I know many here think that the Ukrainian crises was deliberately engineered by Washington as a way to punish Russia for its insolence. Last winter I thought the US simply blundered into this mess but now am beginning to accept that this crisis is deliberate policy.

Good for you, ToivoS! Once you start recognizing Washington’s so-called ‘blundering’ as being a deliberate strategy, your ability to fathom their true motives and perhaps to predict their next move will only get better.
Basically, Washington is using Ukraine as a sacrificial pawn in their game against Russia in order to maintain US control of Europe. That’s right: the ultimate prize here is Europe itself.
As Russia’s trade with Europe has flourished, their diplomatic influence has grown, too. Not only does Europe get roughly a third of its gas from Russia, but the latter had also become the EU’s largest (non-member) importer of (mostly German) goods. Over the past few years, Putin has dangled the hope of a ‘new silk road’ stretching from Beijing all the way to Berlin as a kind of enticement to Merkel. If that ever came about, Washington would begin to lose control over Europe, so they had no choice but to act fast to nip that idea in the bud. The easiest way to do that was to blow up Ukraine in the hopes that Russia would be forced to launch a ground invasion of the country. (It may well be that the Georgian War of 2008 was a probe to see how Moscow would react in an analogous situation.) That’s not exactly how the Russian intervention in Ukraine happened, of course, but note that Washington and their minions in Kiev already had the ‘Russian tanks’ propaganda ready to go, so they ran with the story anyway.
The end game here is the initiation of a new cold war, so that Europe can be more easily arm-twisted into a total embargo of Russia. Then, when Europe’s economy finishes its collapse, Washington will be able to more easily sell TTIP as the ‘cure’. The only thing that has prevented this so far is the fact that Europe doesn’t yet have any real substitute for Russia’s oil/gas. Nor will they, until/unless the US can control a corridor of Iraq & Syria sufficient to allow Saudi to build a new pipeline up through Turkey into Europe. So for now, it’s back to the middle east to finish the job there.
If you want to get into deep strategy and politics, let me suggest an excellent writer: Joaquin Flores at the Center for Syncretic Studies. Much of what the chattering classes regard as Washington’s alleged ‘bungling’ is really an example of what he calls fourth-generation warfare.

Posted by: Seamus Padraig | Nov 7 2014 15:38 utc | 27

Oh, and another essential writer is the affable Pepe Escobar, whose pieces are carried by several websites, including Asia Times Online. For years now, Escobar has been doing a bang-up job of covering ‘pipelinestan’–the role that oil and natgas play in Washington’s new great game in the Eastern Hemisphere. He covers other interesting subjects, too.

Posted by: Seamus Padraig | Nov 7 2014 15:46 utc | 28

i wonder how any uk pull out of the euro union is another sign of a few things – a continuation of the usa/uk special relationship and another attempt at screwing the euro idea..

Posted by: james | Nov 7 2014 16:16 utc | 29

May be the US governement has (unwittingly?) implemented the famous Bureau of Sabotage.

Posted by: acrimonious | Nov 7 2014 16:27 utc | 30

What do you mean “again?” “Again” implies episodic behavior. The US State Department behaves at the kindergarted level continuously.

Posted by: Bill H | Nov 7 2014 16:53 utc | 31

@ james @29
I agree that Britain has never committed to the “euro ideal”, but in this one instance I have to side with British imperialism -the euro ideal is the ideal of finance capital’s stealing everything that’s left not nailed down. The Eurozone “ideal” is monstrous.

Posted by: nomas | Nov 7 2014 17:12 utc | 32

Whatever you decide to do, DON’T MESS with the DUTCHY of GRAND FENWICK.

Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | Nov 7 2014 17:58 utc | 33

It is difficult to reconcile the possibility that this latest Ukrainian crisis was engendered just as a punishment for Syria, when there already was a very fractious and violent Orange Revolution exactly 10 years ago, plus the admitted spending of over $5B in US “support for democracy” over many years.
The general policy goals noted are not far off the mark, but the view that this was short term is unlikely to be correct.

Posted by: c1ue | Nov 7 2014 18:40 utc | 34

There are plenty of things the State Dept would rather not talk about, such as this:
USS Donald Cook gets very bad fright in Black Sea
http://www.voltairenet.org/article185860.html
er, would you mind running that Full Spectrum Dominance stuff by me once more, Obama?

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Nov 8 2014 15:21 utc | 35

Rather than having yet another nuclear summit sanctimoniously led by the U.S. instead of the IAEA, the U.S. might remove all U.S nuclear weapons, it stores all across Europe in NATO countries which its citizens do not want. They are old, (from the 70s) not maintained, probably rusting and form a danger to the EU population. Furthermore the security of these sites (by the U.S) leaves a lot to be desired and are an invitation to great and dangerous mischief. Multiple requests to improve security have fallen on deaf ears. There clearly is no one on charge or home in the Beltway and what we see is useless meetings that lead nowhere and are meant to convey to us that they are up to the task while in reality they are entirely clueless. It is indeed Kindergarten behavior.
For a real world leader I suggest we all listen to President Putin’s Valdai speech, more than ones preferable. Brian posted the link above. It makes President Putin the world leader hands down.

Posted by: Gerry1211 | Nov 10 2014 0:25 utc | 36

Breaking news at The Independent may shed light on why the State Department is in ‘disarray’. The non-compos-mentis of recent administrations may indicate the location where this new virus may have been tested and developed.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/virus-that-makes-humans-more-stupid-discovered-9849920.html
Note the date is NOT 1 April 2014. Fear, be very afeared, there was no known vaccine reported. The subsequent commentariat is a riot as well.

Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | Nov 11 2014 18:53 utc | 37