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November 14, 2014
Open Thread 2014-27
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The Pan-american Post: Nearly 30 years after Brazil’s return to democracy, the country’s National Truth Commission (CNV) is preparing to release a revised count of those who were killed or disappeared by the 1964-1985 military regime. (…) While the unpublished CNV report represents an important step towards reconciliation in the country, some have already criticized it for being too conservative in its account of dictatorship-era abuses. Posted by: Maracatu | Nov 14 2014 19:23 utc | 1 Since Pussy Riot was referenced in the last post, and since I haven’t seen them in the news lately, I did a quick search to see what the “Punk” band was up to. Posted by: Mike Maloney | Nov 14 2014 19:36 utc | 2 @;Isn’t the celebration of the lizard,decadence,the new western mantra?Hatred of all those who believe in God,or some purpose to this life?Seems that way to me. Posted by: dahoit | Nov 14 2014 19:46 utc | 3 Syrian ‘hero boy’ video faked by Norwegian director
I had commented elsewhere that the movie looked fake to me. Good stuff here on open threads. Everyone has a chance to express their own pet issues and concerns. Posted by: juannie | Nov 14 2014 21:04 utc | 5 @2 mike… just another wedge to try to get more anti-russian sentiment going on… they are not a punk band, but a media platform for the west – especially since they have been hijacked, or willing accomplices in this process.. another propaganda 101 exercise for anyone stupid enough to take the bait.. Posted by: james | Nov 14 2014 21:08 utc | 6 even better than wasting ones hard earned cash on some Clima-crap written by Naomi Whatsherface, one can read the scientific work Scientist Guy Stewart Callandar wrote back in the 1930s which completely contradicts the laughable Anthropogenic Global Warming theories as propagandised by dishonest pseudo-scientists and compeltely misinformed political activists
This is in contrast to the claims that pseudo Scientists often try to attribute to Callendar
UHI is something that the dishonest pseudo-scientists refused to admit, until a few short years ago, had any discernible effect on their hysterical little theories, despite Callendar describing it all the way back in 1938
Unlike the pseudo-scientist Clima-hysterics of today normally end their “Scientific” papers with some sort of warning of the dangers of rising CO2, impending Thermageddon, plagues, famines, rains of frogs, and the like.
Posted by: Cloud9 | Nov 14 2014 21:38 utc | 7 There’s apparently a satellite photo of an unidentified fighter jet supposedly firing a missile at Flight MH17, – it’s probably a fake but still . . . Anyway it can be seen here Posted by: Cloud9 | Nov 14 2014 22:07 utc | 8 @b #4 Posted by: Pat Bateman | Nov 14 2014 22:15 utc | 9 Also, use of the word “faked” as in the child was supposed to have faked his death now makes it difficult to find Google search results that actually say the video was “faked”. You just get lots of results of “boy faked own death to save girl from army sniper”. Posted by: Pat Bateman | Nov 14 2014 22:29 utc | 10 “Syrian ‘hero boy’ video faked by Norwegian director” Posted by: guest77 | Nov 14 2014 23:09 utc | 12 @8 The MH17 photo is a collage of Google Maps image from 2012, official Boeing photo of another airplane and image of Mig instead of Su. Posted by: Ulster | Nov 14 2014 23:17 utc | 13 CNN at its best Posted by: zingaro | Nov 14 2014 23:19 utc | 14
You can click on the link to read the footnotes. While I share cloud9’s rather tepid fondness for professional ‘activist’ Naomi WHF, I note that Callendar got the facts right but the spin wrong – he was not exactly a disinterested observer …
Nuclear scientists think nuclear reactors are an acceptably risky means of boiling water and, unsurprisingly, Guy Stewart Callendar thought burning fossil fuels to be as well. They are wrong, in my humble opinion. But … “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!” This Week’s Comment with George Galloway: Posted by: guest77 | Nov 14 2014 23:26 utc | 16 @13 “image of Mig instead of Su.” Posted by: guest77 | Nov 14 2014 23:29 utc | 17 The Saker has an incomprehensible, to me, explanation of why the Russians ‘cannot’ reveal the pictures of the ‘smoking su-25’ that he’s sure they have in their possession … I note that Callendar got the facts right but the spin wrong
Callendar is saying that the temperature of the planet is self-correcting, that is to say that the Earth has inherent temperature-regulating mechanisms, and that it naturally balances at a certain temperature, and it corrects itself when it departs from that balance. Posted by: Cloud9 | Nov 15 2014 0:17 utc | 19 Callendar assessed climate sensitivity value at 2° Posted by: Cloud9 | Nov 15 2014 0:21 utc | 20 Climate science as determined by the “consensus”… isn’t science. Posted by: c1ue | Nov 15 2014 0:38 utc | 21 Ps Posted by: Cloud9 | Nov 15 2014 0:38 utc | 22 Callendar assessed climate sensitivity value at 2°[6] , which is on the low end of the IPCC range. ‘ Posted by: Cloud9 | Nov 15 2014 1:00 utc | 23 @guest77 #17: @guest77 #17: On eve of G20 Summit, TV1 Russia releases satellite image of MH-17 being shot down Posted by: Ray Bergmann | Nov 15 2014 1:17 utc | 26 The Russian blogger No Fly Zone thinks that this fake was created to discredit Russia Posted by: Cloud9 | Nov 15 2014 1:23 utc | 27 if the west had hard data on russia taking down mh17 – they would have shown it already.. on the other hand, if kiev or the usa has hard data on this – they have every reason to keep it hidden if it points back to kiev.. the 2nd is the more likely scenario in the absence of additional satellite info which we know the usa has.. Posted by: james | Nov 15 2014 1:25 utc | 28 @Ray Bergmann #25: Rfid credit cards are a serious problem for financial and personal security. If the cards are constantly transmitting your name and account information that should be of great concern to every person in possession of an rfid chipped credit and/or debit card. I hadn’t heard of this interview before, in which a former Frankfurter Allgeimeine Zeitung reporter explains how many German journalists are “non-official cover” of the CIA or its sister organization the BND. The interview helps one understand how the US manages to keep Germany and the EU in general as its colony. Russian Spring Posted by: Fete | Nov 15 2014 5:56 utc | 32 Risen in the NY Times today has an article about the American Psychological Association (APA) and its involvement in torture carried out by the US government after 911. In 2005 the APA issued a report sanctioning the involvement of its members in crafting the enhanced interrogation techniques that are now widely understood to be nothing less than torture. The committee that made that report was composed of people directly connected to the CIA as it has been subsequently learned. Posted by: ToivoS | Nov 15 2014 6:01 utc | 33 @18 They can’t reveal any photos of Su-25 for two reasons. One is that there is no way one could shoot down a Boeing with Su-25. Second, because of this they have no such this photo. Posted by: Ulster | Nov 15 2014 6:25 utc | 34 @18 There are two reasons why they don’t publish any Su-25 photo. First, you can’t shoot down a Boeing with Su-25. Second, because of this they don’t have any such photo. And as for the Saker, thank you, after seeing this sentence Does anybody seriously believe the Russians don’t know about 9/11? I’m pretty confident now what kind of “expert assessment” he can deliver. Posted by: Ulster | Nov 15 2014 6:32 utc | 35 5 Posted by: ChipNikh | Nov 15 2014 9:11 utc | 36 29 Posted by: ChipNikh | Nov 15 2014 9:25 utc | 37 I don’t want to argue with you too much cloud9, as you seem clearly to be a fossil fuel hasbarista, but it does not take long to refute your ‘qualitative’ science of Mr. all-theory no-data Guy. Certainly the torture doctors are war criminals. What about the bioweaponry doctors? @33 chipnikh Posted by: really | Nov 15 2014 11:28 utc | 40 there is going to be a large scale attack on the suez canal the signal for this will be the shooting down of an egyptian helicopter in the sinai area Posted by: stooge | Nov 15 2014 11:55 utc | 41 to ulster at 32 — Posted by: rufus magister | Nov 15 2014 14:58 utc | 42 really @ 28 and 36 – Posted by: sillybill | Nov 15 2014 15:18 utc | 43 Here’s an interesting piece by Andre Vlatchek, courtesy of Counterpunch, The Anti-Socialist Western Left: Do Western Leftists Hate Socialist Countries? It speaks to the failure of the “ineffectual left” to support revolutionary movements they consider insufficiently pure.
I meant to post this link on an earlier thread, where someone had asked about the role of the Euroleft in the conflict with Novorossiya. It also brings up the question of the debilitating “immaculate conception” demanded by “pwogwessives” (as Alexander Cockburn used to call them.)
Blatant promotion disclaimer — I edited the English text and provided some notes. I kid you not, I laughed so hard when I read that bit that I nearly fell off my chair. Posted by: rufus magister | Nov 15 2014 15:54 utc | 44 Look again Bluster, Saker is “quite sure” the photo is fake. What is true is that the junta is in the east blowing up civilian infrastructure, “ATO”, lawl. Posted by: ruralito | Nov 15 2014 16:25 utc | 45 when they are not blowing up infrastructure in eastern ukraine, they are blowing up airplanes… and then the have the audacity to point to those have lived their whole life in eastern ukraine, as the ones responsible.. you can’t make this shit up, but idiots like ulster are useful tools for the same establishment.. Posted by: james | Nov 15 2014 17:07 utc | 46 Finance in Ukraine: snippets from the surface. Posted by: Noirette | Nov 15 2014 17:20 utc | 47 Today would be a good day to go over to BBC and see what it is like when their propaganda is wetting itself over both the MH-17 photo (+1 for internet debunking/deconstruction) and the G-20 foolishness towards Russia’s President Putin. There aren’t adults in evidence and the jejune squad is in riot. Whatever credibility BBC ever had is made historical after today’s productions. Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | Nov 15 2014 17:30 utc | 48 China & Russia Sidestep the NeoCons Posted by: guest77 | Nov 15 2014 18:37 utc | 50 ISIS plans to mint its own currency to escape the ‘tyrant’s financial system’ based on ‘satanic usury’: Posted by: Cynthia | Nov 15 2014 21:44 utc | 51 38 Posted by: ChipNikh | Nov 15 2014 22:07 utc | 52 @43 sillybill Posted by: really | Nov 15 2014 22:18 utc | 53 http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Mexican-Students-Shot-by-Police-20141115-0017.html
Posted by: guest77 | Nov 15 2014 22:37 utc | 54 53 Posted by: ChipNikh | Nov 15 2014 22:41 utc | 55 Chip, fossil fuels were sequestered over 100’s of millions of years, long enough for living things to turn to rock. Now they’re being released in a few centuries. That’s not nothing. If we’re wrong…there will be no more chances. Posted by: ruralito | Nov 15 2014 22:57 utc | 56 50 Posted by: ChipNikh | Nov 15 2014 23:02 utc | 57 Thanks rufus, for the Hare and the Hedgehog piece. Great reading. Posted by: guest77 | Nov 15 2014 23:02 utc | 58 @55 chipnik Posted by: really | Nov 15 2014 23:03 utc | 59 56 Posted by: ChipNikh | Nov 15 2014 23:18 utc | 60 59 Posted by: ChipNikh | Nov 15 2014 23:27 utc | 61 The Russian oligarchs and Chinese martial elites have nothing on the American and European Oligarchs and the American and European martial elites. I can’t find fault with sovereign nations with rising living standards and popular governments working to increase prosperity on both sides of their borders (and beyond). None. Posted by: guest77 | Nov 15 2014 23:47 utc | 62 56, in 60 Posted by: ChipNikh | Nov 16 2014 0:03 utc | 63 62 Posted by: ChipNikh | Nov 16 2014 0:23 utc | 64 Not a war criminal! Phew! Dodged a bullet there. Posted by: ruralito | Nov 16 2014 0:53 utc | 65 I don’t want to argue with you too much cloud9, Posted by: cloud9 | Nov 16 2014 1:54 utc | 66 No shirt fronting of Putin as of yet, however Steven Harper was so outright rude that it probably amounted to a form of violence for a Canadian: Posted by: Nana2007 | Nov 16 2014 2:11 utc | 67 Posted by: Nana2007 | Nov 16 2014 2:14 utc | 68 Russian Spring Posted by: Fete | Nov 16 2014 5:20 utc | 69 to g77 @ 49 & 58 — Posted by: rufus magister | Nov 16 2014 6:34 utc | 70 The English have lost any sense of who they are, pressured by the Americans from one side and from Muslims on the other:
Poroshenko want genocide Posted by: Anonymous | Nov 16 2014 9:00 utc | 72 The consensus on global warming is very clear: temperature increases solely due to CO2 levels, natural variation is all accounted for. Posted by: c1ue | Nov 16 2014 12:19 utc | 73 IMO, this is worth the read. re 72 Posted by: Laguerre | Nov 16 2014 13:42 utc | 75 To Cloud9 @ 71 — Posted by: rufus magister | Nov 16 2014 17:17 utc | 76 Here’s an interesting article on the recent report from the International Energy Agency: Posted by: Nana2007 | Nov 16 2014 20:21 utc | 77 Russian Spring Posted by: Fete | Nov 17 2014 4:10 utc | 78 @76 rufus m.. perhaps you meant cloud9 @66, not 71. Posted by: james | Nov 17 2014 5:40 utc | 79 The United States Institute of Peace, the Pentagon’s think tank’s vision for Syria and the future Middle East. Israeli Settlers Torture and Hang Palestinian Posted by: Anonymous | Nov 17 2014 8:15 utc | 81 @Rufus Magister Posted by: Johan Meyer | Nov 17 2014 20:25 utc | 83 Saker posts a video of Poroshenko threatening kindergarteners in Novorossiya. C9 @ 85 Posted by: rufus magister | Nov 18 2014 3:10 utc | 85 Russian Spring Posted by: Fete | Nov 18 2014 4:59 utc | 86 In my opinion, I feel the Israeli-Arab situation is coming to a head. I believe this because the United States of America’s influence in the Middle East is changing. And it is changing for the better, because that influence is weakening. The United States is now engaging in direct talks with the Iranians and President Assad to fight the ISIL menace. That ISIL menace is a result of western powers and it’s Middle Eastern allies supporting ISIL covertly and openly. They of course will never admit their hand in creating ISIL, but that has come out in the independent media and information about just how much culpability the west and its Middle Eastern allies have in the creation, funding and nurturing of ISIL and other radical jihadi groups will come to light. So 3 israelis are killed and the west cries. But killing palestinians is just fine apparently. Posted by: Anonymous | Nov 18 2014 17:09 utc | 89 How ready for war, or winter, is Kiev now that all their gold has officially vaporized? Posted by: Nana2007 | Nov 18 2014 20:56 utc | 90 really@88- Posted by: Nana2007 | Nov 18 2014 21:17 utc | 91 Russian Spring Posted by: Fete | Nov 19 2014 5:18 utc | 92 “…Putin’s isolation points to one of the greatest failures of his presidency: namely that Russia has practically no allies left….” @ 94. Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Nov 19 2014 14:55 utc | 95 Merkel’s “Hun Speech” against Russia
Brünnhilde rallies the too-peaceable Germans to war.
Russian Spring Posted by: Fete | Nov 20 2014 5:08 utc | 97 The Russians! The Russians! They’re watching our babies! Posted by: Pat Bateman | Nov 20 2014 13:21 utc | 98 11/20/2014 Posted by: Fete | Nov 21 2014 4:33 utc | 99 Someone needs tell Bibi that demolishing the home of a Palestinian Resistance fighter, killed when exercising his legal right (and obligation) to kill Jews, doesn’t need a house any more. Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Nov 21 2014 6:36 utc | 100 |
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