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October 14, 2014
Syria: UK Still Wants “Regime Change”

The British government does not get it. There is no reasonable alternative to the current government of Syria. The Syrian National Council is a joke:

Over the weekend, the Syrian National Coalition failed to failed to agree on a prime minister during a summit in Turkey. A member of the SNC said the biggest dispute at the Istanbul meeting centred around a split between the favoured candidates of vital funders Saudi Arabia and Qatar.

Everyone seems to acknowledge that those idiots should not be allowed to run Syria. Why then still go for regime change?

Britain’s top diplomat says the US-led military campaign in Syria against Islamic State militants must be followed by regime change in Damascus, the seat of power for President Bashar al-Assad.

In an interview, Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond said Britain would help the US to stand up a proxy army in Syria that would be capable of fighting both Islamic State, also known as ISIS or ISIL, and President Assad’s forces.

The CIA has been building up a proxy army in Syria for three years. It has supplied it with all kinds of weapons including hundreds of anti-tank missiles. Other “allies” have supplied Chinese anti-air missiles. The CIA proxy army, the Free Syrian Army, is in disarray. It has allied itself with extreme Jihadist forces and the weapons it received have been taken by the Jihadists and have recently been used to shoot down Iraqi army helicopters.

What Hammond now at least admits is that the forces he wants to train are mercenaries. People who fight for money and not for some higher interests:

Hammond argues that regular funding is key to building a cohesive rebel force in Syria. “They will be employees. We’re not talking about training a bunch of freelancers who go off on their pick-up trucks and we never see them again,” he says, noting that the FSA already has organized units that draw a regular salary.

He estimates that IS fighters are paid between $300 and $600 a month, which provides a yardstick for funding a proxy army. “The wage bill for a force built up eventually to 50,000 is not going to break the bank,” he says.

I am confident that it will be nearly impossible to find enough Syrians willing to continue to fight to fill another 50,000 men army. The war has been going on for some years and people get tired of it. And what is the difference here between employees and freelancers? Would “employee” mercenaries be more loyal to Hammond than “freelance” mercenaries? Does he think he can pay those Islamic State fighters a bit more than their Caliph pays them and they will forget about the ideology and do his bidding?

Is Hammond really that naive?

Comments

@james #100:
It is not worth pursuing this tangent further. But if you recommend a book, you could at least do readers of this blog the courtesy of telling them what its title is.
Here is a working link to that Wikipedia article (the one I gave before had a typo in it):
Theosis

Posted by: Demian | Oct 16 2014 6:53 utc | 101

@101 demian.. here is what i said of the book reco – “karen armstrongs book on islam” .. here is the specific book i was suggesting listed on amazon.

Posted by: james | Oct 16 2014 7:17 utc | 102

Death squads is not the first calumny Iran has been accused of, remember the explosively formed projectiles [EFP] the US high command said the copper discs could only be made in Iran, and that the Iraqi’s did not have the skills to produce them, oh no, the Iraqi’s have only been supplying the local oil industry with millions of items such as these for the past 50 odd years, later confirmed when dozens of workshops were raided, and sure enough they found thousands of them.

Posted by: harry law | Oct 16 2014 8:34 utc | 103

@ Demian
I am a rare contributor to this blog , however I follow MoA on a daily basis as I think that it is a valuable forum with brilliant contributors.
With all respect , I followed your post regarding Sunni/Shia Islam and find them to be extremely ill-informed , even from an atheist point of view.
I recommend you to widen your horizon regarding Islam , especially Shia Islam , not from movies , but from scholars who dedicated their life on these issues.
On another note , the No. 1 Tool Of The Illuminati Control and financial/social control over the world and its resources in last 3 centuries Is Hegelian Dialectic.
On the other hand Goethe , the most brilliant German/Western thinker and poet wrote :
«Ob der Koran von Ewigkeit sei?
Darnach frag’ ich nicht ! …
Daß er das Buch der Bücher sei
Glaub’ ich aus Mosleminen-Pflicht»
(WA I, 6, 203)
«Närrisch, daß jeder in seinem Falle
Seine besondere Meinung preist!
Wenn Islam Gott ergeben heißt,
In Islam leben und sterben wir alle.»
(WA I, 6, 128 )

Posted by: Sufi | Oct 16 2014 9:26 utc | 104

“[Foreign Secretary Hammond] estimates that IS fighters are paid between $300 and $600 a month, which provides a yardstick for funding a proxy army. ‘The wage bill for a force built up eventually to 50,000 is not going to break the bank,’ he says.”
So Obama and company are already trying to figure out how to cut the “wage bill” of the poor fools who do their bidding? How Wall Street.
And what is the cost of one manpad, one night vision scope, one sniper rifle, one case of ammo, one communications set, etc? If you were an FSA dupe being paid $500 per month – less kickbacks – to risk your life, could you possibly think of any easier way to augment your income?
Speaking of employees – see also Juicemedia RAP NEWS 6 [starting at 1 minute and 40 seconds into the video] wherein Hillary Clinton notably says:
“The American people are OUR employees /
Their taxes fund the wars that support our schemes /
Their kids become the troops that we send overseas /
In return for malls and the American Dream”

Posted by: rackstraw | Oct 16 2014 13:03 utc | 105

Posted by: Demian | Oct 14, 2014 7:22:50 PM | 20
iran is niot carving up the middle east…and they must mean Turkey and ISRAEL which are carving up the middle east, using stupid sunni insurgents as proxies

Posted by: brian | Oct 16 2014 21:14 utc | 106

Posted by: Rusty Pipes | Oct 15, 2014 6:14:47 PM | 76
so were back to shabbihas!ive not seen that word used in months! and now they are connected to iran?
and i thought the MSM were shameless in their lies

Posted by: brian | Oct 16 2014 21:17 utc | 107

Demian @ 97 —
In re your Russian Spring, I came across this interesting bit from RIA/Novosti, A Guide to Russian Sects and Fringe Beliefs – Part One, The Schism and the Skoptsy.
I was looking for Rasputin’s sect.
“The Khlysty believed that the way to salvation lay through the repentance of sins. The greater the sin, the greater the repentance, the Khlysty reasoned, and following this logic they rejected conventional doctrines of “right and wrong,” indulging in actions that they could later confess to.”
Were some sort of theocracy be imposed, I’m thinking this is a good out for me. Not so much the flagellation (a pastime quite popular in the Latin West ca. 1400, BTW, and still practiced apparently, as well as w/in Shiism).
But here’s the really interesting bit.
“Although these groups have largely ceased to exist, their rejection of the mainstream Church had a massive influence on Russian religious life, and paved the way for the appearance of the myriad modern-day sects and cults that emerged following the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991.”
Mrs. M & I often say — if we ever lose our sense of morality and decency, and turn our skills to pure profit, a religion or congregation is the way to go. All it takes is some good, pious, feel-good BS, and hey, I got that covered. So we would be “Good Sheperds” and make sure the flock was regularly sheared.

Posted by: rufus magister | Oct 16 2014 22:37 utc | 108

@108 rufus…re your last paragraph – such is the present state of organized world religion.. lol.

Posted by: james | Oct 16 2014 23:17 utc | 109

to james at 109 —
Hallelujah, brother, hallelujah. Anyone care to contribute to the spreading of the gospel amongst the benighted heathen? Bless you, brothers and sisters, bless you, praise the Lord!
Were I to enact my evil plan, I’d probably have to go a little more “Stuart Smalley”, new-agey. “Because I good enough, and strong enough, and gosh darn it, people like me.” One reason I don’t is I’d have to at least pretend to take all the psycho-babble about “self actualization” seriously, too much of a mental strain.

Posted by: rufus magister | Oct 17 2014 0:56 utc | 110

@108 master-of-the-game
“… So we would be “Good Sheperds” and make sure the flock was regularly sheared.”
Funny sh!t.

Posted by: really | Oct 17 2014 2:22 utc | 111

to really at 111 —
Tx, I appreciated it, just because we discuss serious stuff here doesn’t mean we can have a little gallows humor. Well, maybe not that bad, generic black humor.
Sorry not to have anything to add on the actual topic here, too pre-occupied w/run to Rada elections. It’s sort of scary, but I sort of see the rationale behind the irrational policy of destabilization. Blockback can be very bad, see emergence of al-Qaida from the Afghan mujahadeen. But in quick-profit late capitalism, who plans that far ahead?
“Don’t do stupid stuff,” wasn’t that supposed to be the Obama Doctrine? Oh well, we’ve seen what tends to happen to Obama’s well-spoken promises….
Hey, I’ll be here through the end of the week, don’t forget to tip your server. Cheers!

Posted by: rufus magister | Oct 17 2014 3:49 utc | 112

@rufus magister #108:
Yeah, sure, I agree with you. The reason I give Orthodoxy a bit of a break is that Russia is trying to reconstruct its identity. My personal view of Christianity is that it deconstructs itself and culminates in Hegelian philosophy. After that, the history of religion ends. 😉
Thanks for the link. I’ll read that later.

Posted by: Demian | Oct 17 2014 5:10 utc | 113

Demian @ 108 —
Thanks. I read “Nicholas & Alexandra” as a kid, Rasputin’s assasination always stuck with me, and the guy could hold his liquor as well as get the girls. And tough to kill (I’d guess he’d built up a tolerance for poison in advance).
There are a no. of other parts too, I bkmk’d for later this weekend. Orthodoxy is probably my one weak area in Russ. culture. That I was an atheist had something to do with it, and for many years a dept. of state under the Procurator of the Holy Synod, too.
As you suggest, with the changes, good, bad and indifferent since the Union, Russia needed to “find itself,” so to speak, and naturally the “Ol’ Tyme Religion” was a part of that.

Posted by: rufus magister | Oct 18 2014 0:54 utc | 114