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October 9, 2014
Open Thread 2014-23
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listened to 100 years of duke ellington by the european broadcasting union jazz orchestra, directed by andrew homzy.. fantastic cd! Posted by: james | Oct 9 2014 17:44 utc | 2 I think it interesting that in all the coverage about ISIS’ siege of Ayn al-Arab (a.k.a., Kobane or Kobani, depending on which press account you read) the mainstream media has not mentioned that the YPG, the People’s Protection Units, the militia of the Kurdish Democratic Union Party has Marxist roots. Occasionally, you will see a reference to the fact that the PYD is the Syrian branch of the PKK. But nowhere does the MSM give a description of what the PKK stands for, or how the CIA abducted its leader in Africa 15 years ago and how he has been imprisoned by Turkey since then. Posted by: Mike Maloney | Oct 9 2014 17:56 utc | 4 @4 Posted by: sleepy | Oct 9 2014 18:26 utc | 5 Destabilization as US Bargaining Tactic? Posted by: Nana2007 | Oct 9 2014 19:04 utc | 7 And who is responsible for extremism in the middle east, step forward a former British commander with this explanation. “A former British commander in Iraq says that Saudi Arabia and Qatar are accountable for globally spreading extremism. Posted by: harry law | Oct 9 2014 19:09 utc | 8 War in Syria spills over into Lebanon. Posted by: Willy2 | Oct 9 2014 19:17 utc | 9 Who supplies ISIS: Posted by: Willy2 | Oct 9 2014 19:18 utc | 10 “.What are the odds Ebola is a hedge against this likelihood?” Posted by: Ben Franklin | Oct 9 2014 19:29 utc | 11 @3 kjs Posted by: james | Oct 9 2014 19:37 utc | 12 A must-read by Kelley Vlahos. —The Iraqi Army Never Was Over at the Graun they have a headline;Child death in the US;it’s in their DNA.Wow,imagine a headline about Israel,and their murdering,it’s in their DNA.Our DNA,of the 99% at least,is a mixture and or European,Asian African and Native American,which is the whole world,so it must be in the world’s DNA. Posted by: dahoit | Oct 9 2014 21:02 utc | 14 @ #4 Posted by: Yul | Oct 9 2014 21:04 utc | 15 Pssstt…We have met the real instigator,and it is US(and our you know who masters).(Pogo,bastardized) Posted by: dahoit | Oct 9 2014 21:05 utc | 16 @13 Posted by: Ben Franklin | Oct 9 2014 21:12 utc | 17 Nana
That’s the funniest thing I’ve read here in days. Maybe weeks. Posted by: okie farmer | Oct 9 2014 21:13 utc | 18 @14 dahoit quote “The ones you can’t critique,even obliquely,or even not at all,are those who hold the power.” Posted by: james | Oct 9 2014 22:18 utc | 19 Will obama get the peace prize again tommorow? I wouldnt be surprised. Posted by: Anonymous | Oct 9 2014 22:36 utc | 21 Seems like one of the passengers on MH17 had time to put on an oxygen mask. An passenger was found with a mask around his/her neck. That tends to rule out the official ‘instantaneous death by buk’ story. Posted by: Anon E Mouse | Oct 9 2014 22:57 utc | 22 Thanks Anon E Mouse; Posted by: Ben Franklin | Oct 9 2014 23:05 utc | 23 anon e mouse @ 22 The war in Ukraine, and the sanctions on Russia and Iran are definitely biting – in Europe, it seems. Now it is time for the German people to ask wether making Ms. Merkel’s pet boxer the Mayor of Kiev is really worth a few years of economic stagnation…
Posted by: guest77 | Oct 10 2014 0:08 utc | 25 “Free” Speech in the West – RT prevented from putting full ads up around London.
The ads themselves are quite interesting. Posted by: guest77 | Oct 10 2014 0:15 utc | 26 I think someone maybe linked to this, but it bears reapeating:
Complete with one of the nausea inducing photos imaginable. Posted by: guest77 | Oct 10 2014 0:31 utc | 27 this is the kind of story that Putin’s (paid?) propagandist Saker blocks systematically from his blog, but it is the truth and needs to be told: Posted by: Cu Chulainn | Oct 10 2014 0:48 utc | 28 Signs of a sea change? Posted by: OleImmigrant | Oct 10 2014 0:48 utc | 29 Latin America’s ‘Made in USA’ 2014 Recession [TeleSur English]
Posted by: guest77 | Oct 10 2014 0:52 utc | 30 Posted by: OleImmigrant | Oct 10 2014 0:59 utc | 31 @Cu Chulainn 28 Posted by: Crest | Oct 10 2014 1:01 utc | 32 Oh good, another poster “vigorously” sitting in his apartment “vigorously” typing away on the internet “vigourously” pronouncing himself “His Royal Leftness”. Posted by: guest77 | Oct 10 2014 1:05 utc | 33 @OleImmigrant #29: @guest77#30: Posted by: Rusty Pipes | Oct 10 2014 2:26 utc | 36 @ guest77 #35 In my home state, we have a very extraordinary situation with one of our citizen journalists: Posted by: Jon Lester | Oct 10 2014 3:03 utc | 38 now if only Kiev was made to turn over the ATC tape…why doent EU place sanctions on Kiev junta to force it to do so? Posted by: brian | Oct 10 2014 4:33 utc | 39 Saker’s silly monarchist leanings seem to predispose him for lionization of strongmen. Posted by: brian | Oct 10 2014 4:34 utc | 40 this is the kind of story that Putin’s (paid?) propagandist Saker blocks systematically from his blog, but it is the truth and needs to be told: Posted by: brian | Oct 10 2014 4:36 utc | 41 Russian Spring Posted by: Fete | Oct 10 2014 4:43 utc | 42 I tried capturing the aims of current US foreign policy in a poem and it goes something like this: Posted by: lizard | Oct 10 2014 5:41 utc | 43 last yr i post a comment on fukus-hima, half in jest, Posted by: denk | Oct 10 2014 6:27 utc | 44 obama commemorating 9-1-1 by packing *kaboom* ! Posted by: denk | Oct 10 2014 10:23 utc | 45 brian, i expected silliness from the guest but not from you; Germans call this Freundfeinddenken. if you are interested in Novorossiya (evidently not) niqnaq is the go-to site in English Posted by: Cu Chulainn | Oct 10 2014 11:32 utc | 46 “The single force that has blocked this emerging threat from imposing its hegemony from Damascus to Baghdad – perhaps even from Beirut to Riyadh – is the Islamic Republic of Iran.” Posted by: Amar | Oct 10 2014 12:49 utc | 47 “Today you pretend making a coalition against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), but in fact you’re their allies,” Those are the frank words by Cristina Fernandez Kirchner, the Argentinian President, spoken in a calm and secure voice at the UN General Assembly last Friday, 3 October 2014. Posted by: rackstraw | Oct 10 2014 13:30 utc | 48 GAZA CITY. From Swiss news, le Temps Tue. 7 Oct., a study by a UN agency, using commercial – very precise – sat. pix. Posted by: Noirette | Oct 10 2014 15:37 utc | 49 UK vote on Palestine Posted by: Anonymous | Oct 10 2014 16:38 utc | 50 Latest from Cannonfire on the Israeli problem: Posted by: ben | Oct 11 2014 3:43 utc | 51 *Ebola Is Perfect Gateway for Total Western Invasion of Africa* Posted by: denk | Oct 11 2014 3:56 utc | 52 the french connection ? Posted by: denk | Oct 11 2014 4:42 utc | 53 Russian Spring Posted by: Fete | Oct 11 2014 5:27 utc | 54 DPR: National Guardia started building fortifications on border with Donbas
The bellweather of righteous and Unholy indignation says(NYTs)Putins tiger swims to China.A top story on their website.The banality of evil and tribal animosity,they should be institutionalized as defective humans. Posted by: dahoit | Oct 11 2014 15:22 utc | 56 Following on from comment 55, I read somewhere that the ‘money’ budgeted for the ‘wall’ between Ukraine and Russia (announced by Yats) has ‘flown.’ Surprise! Posted by: Noirette | Oct 11 2014 15:55 utc | 57 @Noirett #57: Dutch FM Timmermans: MH17 Passenger Found Wearing Oxygen Mask
@Willy2 | Oct 9, 2014 3:17:26 PM | 9 58 Posted by: Lug/hansk | Oct 11 2014 19:21 utc | 61 probably it has been posted Posted by: mina | Oct 11 2014 19:33 utc | 62 @Lug/hansk #61: wsws.org remembers, 75 years ago: Nazi Germany carves up Poland … without the USSR and Stalin in the headline, although they dutifully acknowledge Stalin’s treachery in the article below the map of the partition. Russian Spring
Question: Is there any reason Ukrainians should stick to any agreement? From OSCE and UN perspective they are goody-goody. That are the “Russian bandits”, as OSCE and West puts it, who try to adjoin Donbass.
Russian Spring Posted by: Fete | Oct 12 2014 5:25 utc | 67 Thanks, Fete, for your continuous posting of news from Ukraine. The Partei für Soziale Gleichheit has an interesting take on the resurgence of German militarism …
It is not only the takfiri terrorists who have slipped the CIA’s leash of the Middle East who are shrugging of imperial ‘control’ … The CIA, Obama administration, Ms Power and Ms Clinton “never saw it coming, the Islamic State” …
https://cablegatesearch.wikileaks.org/cable.php?id=09BERLIN1588&q=ebola#efmASGA2k Posted by: Ben Franklin | Oct 12 2014 14:52 utc | 70 This is worth the read. “US generals want ground troops for Iraq war”: Posted by: Willy2 | Oct 12 2014 19:06 utc | 72 Snippets from http://www.antiwar.com: Posted by: Willy2 | Oct 12 2014 19:16 utc | 73 “Hong Kong protestors won’t go away”: Posted by: Willy2 | Oct 12 2014 19:56 utc | 74 Posted by: Willy2 | Oct 12, 2014 3:56:45 PM | 74 Posted by: brian | Oct 12 2014 21:49 utc | 75 Russian”>http://rusvesna.su/news/1413148898/”>Russian Spring Posted by: Fete | Oct 13 2014 5:14 utc | 76 Russian President Putin pulls back troops from border with Ukraine
The Donetsk regional administration is planned to be transferred from Mariupol
A deal? What about the build-up of troops further north? What about the continued bombardment of Novorussiya?
Or is it Yet Another Double Cross? http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article39934.htm Posted by: guest77 | Oct 13 2014 8:11 utc | 78 Edward Herman on Ukraine and Lies: Posted by: guest77 | Oct 13 2014 8:25 utc | 79 NATO positions itself as a defence organisation…..and yet: Posted by: brian | Oct 13 2014 9:32 utc | 80 Strange, strange story – simple greed? Or something more sinister? Posted by: guest77 | Oct 13 2014 23:41 utc | 81 Snowden interview. Posted by: guest77 | Oct 14 2014 1:31 utc | 82 Russian Spring
Russian Spring Posted by: Fete | Oct 14 2014 4:22 utc | 83 I wasn’t expecting this: My favourite troglodyte, Good Friend of Israel, America & the Pope, Opus Dei Warrior and PM of Oz, Tony Abbott, has promised to have a “robust conversation” with Vlad, about MH317, at the G20. I’m looking forward to seeing Tony accuse Putin of committing a crime committed by Obama’s Ukrainian Nazis – almost as eagerly as I’m waiting for Vlad’s response. Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Oct 14 2014 6:17 utc | 85 Navy’s AK-47 silencers. Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Oct 14 2014 6:42 utc | 86 Pavel Gubarev’s car was shot at last Sunday (Russian link). That made the driver lose control of the vehicle, injuring Gubarev. (I wonder if he was behaving as the typical Russian and not wearing safety belts.) good weekend article from christopher germann at his site the new great game.. to quote from it a wee bit “According to an Uzbek law enforcement official, IMU head Usman Ghazi confirmed that the group has joined ISIS.” Posted by: james | Oct 15 2014 1:42 utc | 88 Russian Spring Posted by: Fete | Oct 15 2014 4:49 utc | 89 ha de ha ha! OZ regime wants help….BUT Abbott wants to shirtfront the man they want help from? so will Abbott ask president Putin before or after he shirtfronts him? Posted by: brian | Oct 15 2014 10:11 utc | 90 Posted by: brian | Oct 15, 2014 6:11:22 AM | 90 Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Oct 15 2014 14:46 utc | 91 10/15/2014 Posted by: Fete | Oct 16 2014 4:08 utc | 92 from today’s Counterpunch, Putin Speaks, Will Washington Listen by Paul Craig Roberts. I would agree his idea for Putin to arm ISIS was silly, but IMHO, he usually nails it. He certainly does this time. Posted by: rufus magister | Oct 16 2014 16:32 utc | 94 Fete @ 89 — Posted by: rufus magister | Oct 16 2014 19:18 utc | 95 “ISIS threathens a large Iraqi airbase” Posted by: Willy2 | Oct 17 2014 0:49 utc | 96 More fighting in Libya Posted by: Willy2 | Oct 17 2014 0:51 utc | 97 New Zealand Cops Raided Home of Reporter Working on Snowden Documents Russian Spring
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Posted by: Fete | Oct 17 2014 4:46 utc | 99 “…The tragedy that is being played out at Kobané (Arabic Ain al-Arab) was written to conclude with the announced genocide of 300,000 Syrian Kurds. The Islamic Emirate has already taken control of several parts of the city and many surrounding villages. If the Syrian Arab Army fails to breach the lines of the Islamic Emirate to save them, they will all be killed. |
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