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September 29, 2014
The (NED Financed) Hong Kong Riots

Some organized “student groups” in Hong Kong tried to occupy government buildings and blocked some streets. The police did what it does everywhere when such things happen. It used anti-riot squads, pepper spray and tear gas to prevent occupations and to clear the streets.

The “western” media are making some issue about this as if “western” governments would behave any differently.

The alleged issue in question is the election of new Hong Kong chief executive in 2017. According to Hong Kong’s basic law, which was implemented when Britain gave up its dictatorship over the colony, there will be universal suffrage – everyone will be allowed to vote – but the candidates for the position will have to go through some pre-screening by a commission. This is what China had promised and this is what the students, falsely claiming that China is backtracking from its promises, want to change.

Peter Lee aka Chinahand has an excellent piece on the issue at Asia Times Online. But Lee is making one mistake in that he does not consider outside influence:

Occupy Hong Kong decided to light it, starting with a class boycott and demonstrations organized by the Hong Kong Federation of Students. And, since I’m never afraid to mix a metaphor, the Hong Kong government poured fuel on the fire by pepper-spraying and teargassing it.

Who really “decided to light this”? To me the protests, and the “western” reporting about it, have the distinct smell not of tear gas but of some expensive Color Revolution perfume of “western” origin.

So lets look up the usual source of such exquisite fragrance. The 2012 annual report of the U.S. government financed National Endowment of Democracy, aka the CCA – Central Color-Revolution Agency, includes three grants for Hong Kong one of which is new for 2012 and not mentioned in earlier annual reports:

National Democratic Institute for International Affairs – $460,000

To foster awareness regarding Hong Kong’s political institutions and constitutional reform process and to develop the capacity of citizens – particularly university students – to more effectively participate in the public debate on political reform, NDI will work with civil society organizations on parliamentary monitoring, a survey, and development of an Internet portal, allowing students and citizens to explore possible reforms leading to universal suffrage.

So the U.S. government in 2012 (2013 numbers are not yet available) hands over nearly half a million to “develop the capacity” of “university students” related to the issue of “universal suffrage” in the election of Hong Kong’s chief executive.

Two years after the money starts to flow from the U.S. government university students in Hong Kong provoke street riots with demands exactly on the issue the U.S. government money wanted to highlight.

That is just some curious coincidence – right?

PS (1): There is no reason to believe that a majority of the people in Hong Kong are supporting the U.S. induced demands of the “students”. Hong Kong has some 7 million inhabitants. Ten to twenty thousands protesting amounts to some rather marginal 0.2% of the population.

PS (2): We noted earlier that the new Color Revolution scheme 2.0 – see Libya, Syria, Ukraine – now includes lots of violence:

Color revolutions in the old form had become too obvious a scheme to be of further use. The concept was therefore extended to include intensive use of force and mercenaries and to support those forces from the outside with weapons, ammunition, training and other means.

While earlier Color Revolutions employed mostly peaceful measures the aim now is blood in the streets and lots of infrastructure damage to weaken the forces resisting the regime change attempts. Accordingly the authorities in Hong Kong should prepare for much more than just unruly demonstrations.

PS (3): The NDI through which the NED money was funneled is the Democratic Party arm for regime change campaigns. It also does quite a bit of other Hong Kong meddling by financing various other organizations. Such foreign agents need to be restrained.

Comments

jeeze
im fighting a losing battle against those hordes of sheeples bleating tam mk2 , some are worried about the students, others sound like its their wet dream coming true , sobs !
out for now.

Posted by: denk | Oct 3 2014 3:08 utc | 201

isnt it interesting young women front for the ‘help us’ videos in al 3 countries

Posted by: brian | Oct 3 2014 3:43 utc | 203

ive heard a lot about 3 D printers..wonder if these activists are beibng printed out en masse!
as for mr dumb(p)shit, whats the point for a colour revolution if there is no state response? a violent response is necessary..if it can be gained while yourself being peaceful thats OK…but if not, next step is to employ some judicious violence.
at some point snipers will have to be brought in, if these are deemed the best way to create the necessary chaos
mr dumb(p)shit seems to be papering over the NED backing of the ‘activists’

Posted by: brian | Oct 3 2014 4:05 utc | 204

@brian #209:
Thanks. I never considered joining Facebook. (I have a Twitter account under my real name, but I have never tweeted.) Facebook strikes me as post-literate, as is exemplified by the link you gave, which does not provide a link to the Venezuelan video.
But I found it by doing a Youtube search. Worth watching, to compare with the other two.
@ #210: Yeah. And they’re not fat or ugly, either.

Posted by: Demian | Oct 3 2014 5:07 utc | 205

Venezuela still faces what amounts to a “Phoenix Program” against prominent leftist politicians. A rising star in the party Chavez led (the PSUV) was murdered, along with his girlfriend, just the other day.
This happens all the time – peasant leaders shot and killed, peasants attacked and murdered, politicians targeted – this is how the US and their right-wing compradores win power. Through murder and lies. This is what the US calls “return to democracy”. No different in Iran. No different in Ukraine.
Venezuela, of course, was victim of its own “mystery snipers” during the 2002 coup that sought to overthrow Chavez.
background from indespensible venezualanalysis.
Great article on the the coup and US involvement. Including new (“progressive” DiBlasio appointed) NYC police chief, Bill Bratton.

Posted by: guest77 | Oct 3 2014 5:11 utc | 206

@guest77 #214:
Follow-up to that story about the murders:
Murder of Venezuelan Politician Was Executed With Great Precision
More on topic, I also found this at telesur (a site I only learned about recently):
Wikileaks: HK Protests Linked to US Government

A Wikileaks cable released September 4, 2008 from the American Consulate in Hong Kong to the Secretary of State offices of Condelezza Rice, refers to a US State Department funded project, The Hong Kong Transition Project.
Whilst a cable dated July 2, 2009 discusses demonstration turnouts and how to make them more successful in the future. Whilst a 4 Jan 2010 cable from the American Consulate in Hong Kong to the offices of the Secretary of State looks at increasing the effectiveness of political messaging on future demonstrations.

That article has a link to this, which goes into a lot of detail:
US State Dept Funding and Occupy Central, the Ties that Bind

Posted by: Demian | Oct 3 2014 5:49 utc | 207

@ #213:
Speaking of Facebook, maybe Angela Merkel will decide to delete her account.
The Trolling of Angela Merkel

Tens of thousands of comments have been posted to Angela Merkel’s facebook page and they increase exponentially every hour. …
The same text is being copy pasted so we thought we would (rough) translate the message that Germans are desperately trying to get through to their government.

Follow the link to see what is being copy pasted: it is criticism of Germany’s slavish support of Israel.
A post from Merkel’s Facebook account:

Angela Merkel: „Jüdisches Leben gehört zu uns und zu unserer Identität!“ /redaktion

(Jewish life belongs to us and to our identity!”)
It is hard to see how anyone can take that seriously. By supporting the fascist junta in Kiev, Merkel has reaffirmed the identity of Germany as Nazi. The ethnic group that the Nazis most hated and despised is the Jews. Thus, Merkel is not only an unabashed Nazi supporter: she is also a ridiculously bad liar.

Posted by: Demian | Oct 3 2014 6:51 utc | 208

telesur is on this
Previous cables show links between United States agencies and the Hong Kong protest movement, as Beijing warns that the protests are China’s “internal affairs.”
The United States funded groups linked to the ongoing Occupy Central protests in Hong Kong, according to whistleblowing website Wikileaks.
The website tweeted that key figures behind the demonstrations are linked to the National Endowment for Democracy (NED), a U.S. foundation “dedicated to the growth and strengthening of democratic institutions around the world,” according to its website, but which has been linked with coup attempts and “regime change” plans in Venezuela and elsewhere.
http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Wikileaks-Hong-Kong-Protests-Have-Links-to-US-Government–20141002-0011.html

Posted by: brian | Oct 3 2014 12:42 utc | 209

light post. 🙂 😉
Day before yesterday, in France, the profession libérales read ‘highish’ level independents (lawyer, doctor, dentist, notary, therapist …) were on strike. (Contra a projected new law by Hollande.) They are libéraux against neo-liberalism and capitalism.
Pensioners were demonstrating, it was pensioner’s protest day.
On the same day, the couturier Karl Lagersfeld ran a public demo. All his models and employees took to the streets in vibrant garb. I think it was for freedom. Yeah, freedom, or something along those lines. Not from corsets though, that was Christian Dior.
Note the color label is defunct, one can hardly have a Lavender, Puce, Pink, Black, Brown, Grey, Burnt Sienna, or Rainbow color revolution. Maidan did not have a color and Hong Kong doesn’t either. And no flower or plant names either. Some serious branding problems there!
One thing to understand is that playing a media role in ‘democracy’ demos can literally turn into a very lucrative life career.

Posted by: Noirette | Oct 3 2014 13:32 utc | 210

Masses in Hong Kong get angry after life and business sabotaged by democracy mobs
Some even ask China to help restore orders in Hong Kong, but China has already said it trusts Hong Kong authorities to handle the local affairs and Mainland China will not intervene as long as no foreign invasion takes place.
http://english.cntv.cn/2014/10/03/VIDE1412310361077438.shtml
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=fac_1412320003#j8qG9qHVYgrdl3lg.99

Posted by: brian | Oct 3 2014 13:49 utc | 211

Probably the best outcome would be if the HK protesters move to the US. There they will find highly paid jobs and honest politicians.

Posted by: dh | Oct 3 2014 14:23 utc | 212

and do these go on tom ISIS and other terror groups?
Berlin approves arms exports to S.Arabia, Qatar – report http://on.rt.com/aihk2q

Posted by: brian | Oct 3 2014 16:08 utc | 213

Must see videos:
http://www.youtube.com/classwarfilms

Posted by: lcotler | Oct 3 2014 23:00 utc | 214

So all the people in Hongkong are just pigshit stupid unable to show their dissent unless some foreigner puts them up to it eh?
As posted before, claiming that the demonstrations are purely the result of foreign interference as a fact isn’t only disingenuous is it misanthropic as well.
Why do the usual mob here all run with a mirror image of the tenets the types they claim to loathe spout non-stop 24/7/365?
Back when england was still running Hongkong, people protested against the settlement reached by england & chiina and the english were just as violent in their attempts to silence those advocating Hongkong autonomy. USuk don’t want a change they just want to embarass China so they can say “see suddenly the abrogation of rights in Fegusson and resulting protests is mild – go to China – then you’d have something to whinge about”. Horseshit I know but both China and USuk et al do this because they are all run by greedy pr1cks.
Yep the assholes running amerika, england france israel and all the rest are greedy lying toads – I’ve got no disagreement with that. However that doesn’t make the sociopathic sleazebags whose families bribed corrupt officials during the Cultural Revolution to avoid the consequences of their multi-generational, multi-century exploitation of the Chinese people and who now control China’s communist party and all enterprise both private and public, whiter than white. Can’t help but feel old Mao would see the Honkers’ citizens point of view even if they couldn’t see his.
Put Barack Oblamblam and Li Keqiang in a room together and I betcha it would be impossible to tell them apart from listening to the mendacious crap both favour.
This whole if USuk is evil and China is their enemy, therefore China must be cool bulldust, is very fucking old and all it does is perpetuate oppression of normal humans on both sides.
The people in China advocating for amerika are simply a mirror of people in amerika & europe taking the China government side.
Yes amerika and all the ass kissers are encouraging some of China’s dissidents, but that is only to keep the pot boiling and China distracted, there is no way amerika wants to cause the major disruption to commerce that would flow from china, amerika’s largest trading partner no longer governing Hongkong. It aint gonna happen – what USuk want to happen is for the world to get diverted by Hongkong so the coming invasion of Syria can be got underway without too much noise, and peeps won’t get so pissed at the ‘black eye’ nato has copped in the Ukraine.
Instead of backing sides in any of these disputes, how about considering the thousands of normal non-sociopathic humans who are gonna die, because of assholes on both sides chasing power?
Humanists would be smart to consider how taking any side in local disputes only serves to perpetuate the violence and mayhem.

Posted by: Debs is dead | Oct 4 2014 0:08 utc | 215

@223 debs is dead.. nice post. i like what you had to say.

Posted by: james | Oct 4 2014 2:50 utc | 216

#OccupyCentral rioters, breaking the law, whine when police can’t protect them from angry fed-up #HongKong residents http://nyti.ms/1vGq1Un

Posted by: brian | Oct 4 2014 2:57 utc | 217

@brian #225:
LOL. Some decent reporting from the Times. If triads will be used to break up the demonstration, that’s probably a good tactic: no police brutality.
I really don’t understand what these demonstrators think they’re doing. Don’t they know that the last time someone did exactly what they are doing, it led to a fascist government being installed in Europe for the first time since the defeat of the Nazis???
I gave this link before, at #194. Here’s another quote from that article:

Seventeen years after “One Country, Two Systems,” only 31 percent of people define themselves as Chinese, while 67 percent see themselves as primarily Hong Kongers. This figure is lower than in 1997, but it also represents the latest result in a poll that has seen dramatic swings in both directions. This volatility, along with continued weakness of Chinese identity in the city, speaks to the strength of the conflict in the hearts and minds of Hong Kong people. What is of particular note is that the proportion of those who self-identify solely as Hong Konger is far higher amongst the young. Among 18-29 year olds, who have spent their formative years living in “One Country,” 51 percent have a stronger affiliation to their “System” than to China.

I can’t help seeing Occupy Central in reference to Euromaidan. Hong Kongers are to Chinese as Ukrainians are to Russians. Hong Kongers are Chinese who have been brainwashed by a Western imperialist power into thinking that they are not Chinese; Ukrainians are Russians who have been brainwashed by Western imperialist powers into thinking that they are not Russian.
@james #224:
You’re lucky that you apparently can figure out what his point was.
Our friend Ming Chun Tang has a new post over at Counterpunch:
On Occupy Central and the NED
He is a true believer, like the Mandanites.
The Diplomat is disappointed that Singapore does not have an Occupy movement:
Singapore’s Pallid Hong Kong Solidarity: The regimented city-state does a masterful job dissuading would-be activists.

Posted by: Demian | Oct 4 2014 3:45 utc | 218

did 223
*This whole if USuk is evil and China is their enemy, therefore China must be cool bulldust, is very fucking old and all it does is perpetuate oppression of normal humans on both sides. *
forchrissake !
nobody is saying the ccp is saint.
u’r falling in the same trap as those who accused me and brian as *gadaffi apologists* during the libya caper, simply coz we pointed out cia complicity right from the start.
ccp is corrupt ? no shit !
off hand i can think of dozens of regimes which make the ccp looks like angels, fukus being the premier example, but u wont see fukus sponsored rebellions there coz those ‘r allies.
bottom line…this isnt about supporting china but stopping fukus *humanitarian imperialism* which has already taken out exyugo, libya,
ukraine with syria back on the cross hair now.
hell our *analysis* and *expose* made a fat lot of good eh, the fukus juggernaut grind on relentlessly regardless, but at least our conscience is clear.
if every time fukus targets a country for destabilisation/regime change by orchestrating rebellion or outright r2p we shall keep quiet simply coz that *regime* is *no different from fukus* [sic] we’d become an unwitting accomplice to zwo’s agenda of one world government.
before u know it, the world would be left with *our kind of guys * type of regimes run out of washington dc and london.
i bet that’d be good news to democracy and the world’s oppressed masses ?
this *humanitarian imperialism* is a deadly weapon , no shit.
i mean, how do u argue against democracy ?
*are u ccp supporters, are u one of the 50cts sock puppets, u think the [fill in the blank] people are so stupid that they cant figure out their own protest without outside interference blah blah blah]
this kind of rejoinders is so prevalent in msm, cif etc etc im beginning
to wonder if its being taught in cia psyop class ?
surely u of all people can do better that !

Posted by: denk | Oct 4 2014 4:14 utc | 219

@226 demian – i don’t know if i completely get did’s drift, but i liked some of the gist of it enough to say so.. you give me too much credit for deciphering more challenging posts, lol!
on the other hand denks post @227 is harder for me to fathom… not sure where to start with some of that!

Posted by: james | Oct 4 2014 4:56 utc | 220

Short memory denk, if you bother to go back and check the threads on Libya you will find posts from me supporting the Colonel right from the get go. I was always an avowed Gaddaffi supporter, comparing the administration under Gadaffi in Libya with that of the pig who runs China is as asinine as suggesting Fidel and Barack read from the same book. On one hand are two self made leaders Gaddaffi & Fidel, who may have suffered from a degree of narcissism sure, but they never lost sight of the average shit kicker, placing those concerns ahead of all else and on the other you have a pair of corporatised puppets for the elites both of whom despise 99.99% of the billions of individuals who make up this planets population.
Those idiots who make posts celebrating the bashing of people in Hongkong remind of of old school Trot lefties – nothing must upset the ideology especially not people – it would be possible to make the perfect socialist state if only we could get rid of the proletariat.
Sick shit – to be expected from those who theorize rather than act.
It is also untrue to suggest that USuk have always supported the democratic movements in Hongkong during the english rule – support if you can call it that was purely in the form of attempted infiltration of agent provocateurs and informants. As I pointed out earlier the english were even more ruthless than the Chinese in suppressing dissent. Many former Hongkong residents live down here and while there used to be a division between the ethnic Chinese and Anglos nowadays you’ll find both mobs despise england and China equally. Big nation states only favour the elites, they are the easiest structure to find sufficient assholes to suppress community dissent. A large population is also easy to divide against itself. USuk have no intention of hiving Hongkong off from China.

Posted by: Debs is dead | Oct 4 2014 22:15 utc | 221

debs 230
in fact i remember u were the one agreeing with me about cia shenanigan in libya, its some other posters who called me gadaffi stooge.
*Instead of backing sides in any of these disputes, how about considering the thousands of normal non-sociopathic humans who are gonna die, because of assholes on both sides chasing power?*
in this hk caper u are saying ok no doubt the usual suspects are creating havoc here but its none of our business let those *pigs* in beijing stew in its own rot. !
firstly, ccp might have lost its socialist soul but comparing china to fukus is bs !
china trades
http://www.marctomarket.com/2013/12/great-graphic-rise-of-china-as-trade.html
fukus robs
http://williamblum.org/intervention-map
there aint no epic contest in *chasing power* either, it has been a one way assault from washington since 1949 and so far ALL of the *non-sociopathic humans who are gonna die* have died at the hand of fukus, period.
more to the point, your view is dangerously close to those leftist do-gooders who say *at least cia is doing something good for once* [sic] during the tibet and xinjiang riots. !!
we all know cia isnt out to *do good* but taking out obstacles to fukus world domination. we should call out any cia engineered *rev* for what it is…regardless of the nature of *regime* under attack or whether the protestors have genuine grievances.
other wise we’d unwitting accomplice to fukus one world govenment program .
do the turks have grievances, indians, indonesians, malaysians,…….?
right winguts are pro intervention by default.
this *humanitarian imperialism* is brilliant i concede, it helps to snuff out even the voice of the anti-imperialists too, or whats left of it !
i’ve lots of respect for u but we shall agree to disagree here.
i rest my case.

Posted by: denk | Oct 5 2014 2:45 utc | 222