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The Fishy James Foley Video
What is fishy with the James Foley beheading video?
1. I have not seen it yet.
2. The video was well produced and at least partially staged:
"My experience of these things is when the knife gets close the knees buckle and you become like a rag doll, whereas this guy seemed to sit upright. It could be that that particular knife wasn't the one that killed him, that that was a play-acting thing," the expert told The Times.
After the part where the executioner was shown cutting Foley's head, the video fades.
The next part of the video already showed Foley's decapitated head while he was upturned back. His hands were handcuffed. But his right ankle already had bruises hinting that he had been kneeling on the ground longer than what was shown in the video. And most importantly, a different looking knife lies on the ground, next to Foley's corpse.
"The guy is obviously dead but it may be that particular scene was acted and that was why he is staying stiff," the security expert noted.
3. Unlike other beheading videos this one apparently does not show the actual beheading. It just blends from the first appearance of a slight cut to a decapitated body.
4. Few others have seen the video. It was, on behalf of U.S. officials, aggressively blocked on Youtube and Twitter even deleted accounts that linked to the video. Hundreds of other ISIS videos showing very graphic beheading of Syrians and Iraqis second by second were never censored away like this.
5. Lots of people believe the video and the "death" of James Foley is fake.
The journalist James Foley was a propagandist for the Free Syrian Army. In that he had joined important U.S. politicians. The FSA terrorists were trained by the U.S. and then converted to ISIS which the U.S. now claims to fight. The U.S. is still giving rocket launchers and TOWs to FSA gangs, aka soon-to-be-ISIS followers.
ISIS is the typical cartoon supervillain the U.S. creates whenever it wants to propagandize for more wars. It is the best possible enemy. ISIS allows for ridiculous threat inflation that will probably give Obama new wide-open congressional Authority for the Use of Military Force (AUMF) in Iraq and probably in Syria and elsewhere.
Those are a lot of miles from a few bloody drops in a somewhat staged video. Staged how much though is an open question.
The Yinon Plan, a Multi-polar World, and How to Handle Hoaxes
From some comments by Jsore on a previous thread:
Looks like someone was monitoring this site and felt that the bourgeois fake left needed some backup.
So, if the “Left” in the US and the rest of the Western world had – at the time – actually gotten behind the idea of believing their own eyes, the laws of physics etc etc and forced the issue of investigating the IMPOSSIBLE farce that was all things officially 9/11 – ESPECIALLY documented Israeli/neocon involvement – then the MAYBE we wouldn’t be where we are now.
BUT NOOOOOOOOO..
Mr. Expert on all things Fake-Left Malooga tells us not to worry about deciphering whether things are real or not: hey, it’s ONLY REALITY, right? Holy eff…
ORRRRR, should we look at the nearing realization of the balkanization of the ME – a plan I hope I don’t need to remind everyone goes back 30+ years – as proof that, hmmmm, maybe these incompetent Zionist idiots actually DO KNOW how to plan and put said plans into action, huh?…
Yes, contrary to your respondent’s claim IT CERTAINLY MOST DEFINITELY MATTERS if what we are being told is actually real/true or not. I understand that this goes against certain analysts’ grain because they have been brainwashed into thinking everything must be so very complex and that there always exists a need to consider every different situational angle – I was there myself at one point long ago – but one has to stop even HUMORING their narratives at some point so that he/she will STOP BELIEVING them BEFORE they start crafting them.
Alright, I have to confess that Jsore called it right. My job (under deep cover, of course) has been to monitor this site for AIPAC and step in to derail conversation when it got too close to Israeli/neocon involvement. People who have read my work here over the last ten years already know this, but for you newbies, sadly Jsore has outed me. How shall I ever be able to do my job effectively again? I welcome any and all suggestions.
Anyway, I get your point: The world is simple, and anyone who says it is complex is a fool or Sayanim.
It must be a nice feeling to have the complete assurance that Jsore does in understanding how the world works, which, according to his epistemology, as he has told us involves “ US subservience to Zionism/Israel .” Anyone who doubts this is of course repeatedly bludgeoned with the “Clean Break/Yinon Plan” — as if by now anyone has NOT heard of it.
Other discourses, of course, such as environmental destruction, resource depletion, the re-colonization of Africa, the rapid extinction of life species, the extermination of the indigenous of the world, the move towards global multi-polarity, capitalism killing the planet, or class struggle, either do not exist, or are simply not worthy of mention in the face of the totalizing epistemology of the all-powerful necrotizing Zionist threat to its neighbors.
But, what about the relationship Thierry Meyssan, no slouch when it comes to 9-11, recently described between Zionism and the US? Presenting more historic evidence than Jsore has, Meyssan traces the concept of Zionism, not to a Jew, but to a Christian dispensationalist, Reverend William E. Blackstone, following longtime British Calvinist thought — and states that the project was revived, including the creation of Israel in Palestine, by British Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli in 1878 as an Anglo-Saxon imperialist project for re-dividing the world at the time. In other words, Israel is a FOB of the Anglo/American empire.
Or what about those who believe that the ruling classes of Britain, the US and Israel are one, their ruling classes and Jews intermarried as they are, and that there is no point in making a distinction between them — like the kid’s joke of who really rules the body, the head or the asshole.
Are these theories wrong, Jsore? Are they just more Zionist lies? We desperately need to know.
Moreover, the larger problem arises when one asks Jsore to delve further into the implications of his theories, beyond merely drowning us with dozens of posts of complete hysteria and cataracts of CAPITAL LETTERS.
Jsore, if Israel is the undisputed boss of the US, is it also, in your view, the undisputed boss of Britain, France, and many other countries — and if so, which ones? Are not the Rothschilds, who own Israel, the boss of the entire world through their control of International banking worldwide, in your view?
Is this power all powerful? Can they be resisted? If so, how, in your opinion?
You seem very concerned about the Yinon plan. If it is 30 years old, as you concede, why has it taken Israel so long to make any visible progress towards its achievement?
Being the knowledgeable student of International Relations and History that you are, can you enlighten us as to whether or not other nations have ever drawn up expansive plans, and if so, whether they have all succeeded, or whether some of them have been thwarted?
Do you believe that other nations — particularly China and Russia, and to a lesser extent, the other BRICS — are aware of this plan? What, in your view, is their posture towards it? Are they in favor of it or not? Could they be instrumental in stopping the plan, or does the entire load rest upon us, the readers of your writings?
If Israel, as you insist, is capable of long-term planning, are not other nations? Could not the long-term plans of other nations oppose Israel’s long-term plans, leading to a dialectic between them?
Secondly, You have repeatedly castigated bevin and I for believing that the uni-polar empire is slowly becoming a multi-polar world. Do you have proof of your contention that this is not slowly happening? (Figures for % of global GDP, weaponry dominance, % of global debt, # of allies, etc. and statistics relating to control of key international institutions — BIS, WB, IMF, etc. would be welcome. Heck, even an anecdote would bolster your argument at this point.)
Is the world’s principal theoretician of World System Theory, Immanuel Wallerstein, a fool for his article, “The Consequences of US Decline,” where he speaks of the coming multi-polar world?
What do you think of Andrew Korybko’s recent two-part article in Oriental Review, “Washington’s Nightmare Comes True: The Russian-Chinese Strategic Partnership Goes Global?”
I thank you in advance for sharing your opinions with us on these important topics so that the rest of us, who are orders of magnitude slower than you, can at least BEGIN to engage with you.
Third, you seem to be under some sort of misapprehension that I believe the official conspiracy theory (OCT, as David Ray Griffin refers to it) of 9-11. I don’t. Never did, from day one, although that is a different story. What I do believe is that the 9-11 truth movement has been so infiltrated with disinformation agents, and is so busy arguing over exactly what did happen — which is irrelevant once you reject the OCT — that it has paid but scant attention to opposing the “War on Terror” project of Imperialist mobilization over the past decade, which is a far more important task. Indeed, one would be hard pressed to find any truther website which was more concerned with stopping that mobilization than with whether holograms or space weapons were used. I’m not referring to academic journals, like “The Journal of 9-11 Studies” in this critique, obviously.
By the way, since 9-11 is so important to you, what is your theory of what happened? Did the Jewish Zionists do it, as Christopher Bollyn writes, or were a bunch of non-Jews key, as Kevin Ryan has recently cogently written about? Or do you have your own theory which puts these two dedicated 9-11 researchers to shame? We are all curious to know what you think happened on this crucial event since, according to you, it is essential to our understanding the world and “where we are now.”
Fourth, you seem very disturbed that I said that whether the beheading was real or not was unimportant. Clearly, I was showing that I was some sort of evil liberal left-gatekeeper out to stealthily mislead the unwitting naifs who congregate here. Here, I do apologize for not being clear enough in my reasoning. It was a quick one-off sentence on a blog made carelessly. I neglected to preface that I have studied all of the major false flag/hoax type events over the past decade, and their aftermaths. And my view, again, is similar to the one I have about 9-11: Yes, it is important to get those who are unaware of the tactics of these events to recognize them — BUT, once that task has been accomplished, it is then more important to mobilize and oppose whatever the powers that be are attempting to push through, rather than arguing over the details of the hoax.
The response to the Syrian gas attacks of last year represented a successful example of resistance, in my opinion. Many people quickly got together on the web and pooled their work, including Noirette and Petri Krohn here, and debunked the official story. But, once the story was debunked, it was more important to stop the US attack on Syria than to try to figure out every last detail of what actually did happen. Whether the public outcry helped stop the war or not, I do not know. But I can say that in talking to my Congressman and Senators offices, they were all overwhelmed by the response, which they uniformly described as “unprecedented.”
Finally, I really have no idea why you persist in being so defensive and oppositional. I know that I, and I believe bevin too (though I shouldn’t speak for someone I don’t know, even if we do receive our paychecks from the same liberal synagogue), agree with most of what you say. So what are we fighting about? I will mention for the last time that your tone will never convince anybody, but only drive them away. Is that your purpose? Was it a similar hectoring and patronizing presence that finally woke you up? b has already warned you once. I would hate to see you be banned from here and completely lose the opportunity to share your insights with us. I’ve seen too many valuable posters banned over the years, and I mourn their loss here. But I also know that b has put a ton of work into this blog for a full decade and that he will not allow one person to persist in disrupting things.
This is the second time I have asked you some clarifying questions. Last time you ignored me. If you persist in not answering questions which bear upon your arguments, one might conclude that you are more focused on disruption than on an informed exchange of ideas.
Posted by: Malooga | Aug 24 2014 10:00 utc | 62
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