Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
August 02, 2014

Netanyahoo Is Giving Up

Without taking many more military casualties Israel can not reach any of its declared objectives in Gaza. Netanyahoo is giving up for now and has ordered the retreat of all Israeli forces. He rejects any negotiated cease fire as he politically would win nothing but possibly loose a lot through it. Hamas is thereby free to do whatever it decides to do.

As soon as the fighting dies somewhat down the censorship over the Israeli press will have to be lifted. The reports then will show that the political decision making over the attack on Gaza was crude and panicked. It will also show that the IDF's operations were hapless and with only few successes. The army lost at least 64 soldiers to enemy fire while in its last incursion into Gaza only 6 were killed by the opposition. There will be many questions asked to the high command and heads will roll.

Some commission may even ask why Netanyahoo decided to start this unsuccessful campaign at all. I also expect that Obama and Kerry will be looking for some revenge for the insults Netanyahoo publicly threw at them. His career as politician will be damaged and possibly even over.

Meanwhile the ordeal of Gaza and its peoples will continue.

Posted by b on August 2, 2014 at 17:53 UTC | Permalink

Comments

If netanyahu is pulling out the idf, I wonder if gaza's boarders are going to remain at pre-conflict status?

Posted by: really | Aug 2 2014 18:13 utc | 1

This article seems really premature. While it is possible that there be a reordering of IDF positions in Gaza Netanyahu is going to do what he believes to be his job as quickly as possible as he is under massive political pressure both at home and abroad.

To find out about the Obamanations angst see Red Pill Views http://www.redpillviews.com/bombs-away-in-gaza-as-washington-grinds-its-teeth/

And to see why Netanyahu intends to finally finish all Palestinian resistance see this older article on Red Pill Views.

http://www.redpillviews.com/hamas-wants-a-cease-fire-the-view-from-israel/

Posted by: Robert Gorden | Aug 2 2014 18:25 utc | 2

There are a couple of bright notes to "Israel's" latest butchery in Gaza.

1. Obama's endorsement of Boofhead Netanyahu's resort to collective punishment of Palestinian civilians should embolden people who think it's about time that Jews (except "good" Jews) were collectively punished for "Israel's" crimes against humans in Palestine.

2. This week a new contender for the post of Oz's Head Jew, Malcolm Turnbull, Liberal Party stalwart, Good Friend of Israel and Multimillionaire Bankster (approx $350M), stepped up to the plate to defend "Israel's" right to defend itself from the Existential Threat posed to the Jewish Statelet by HAMAS. As predicted many times by Gilad Atzmon, Mr Turnbull's defense of "Israel" was one of those Jewish Historical rants which begins with Jewish suffering but omits any mention of the cause of the suffering ... Jewish bullshit, theft, murder, genocide, ethnic-cleansing, property confiscation, denial of access to water and poisoning of Palestinian aquifers, bulldozing businesses & livelihoods, and violent military occupation as oppressive as any suffered by the Holocaust Survivors - and for 10 times longer. If that's not psycho-war I don't know what is.

The world has finally discovered just what Satanic assholes the Jews occupying Palestine really are and it's unlikely that Jews, anywhere, will feel safe until the 'Good' Jews bring the 'Normal' Jews to justice.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 2 2014 18:43 utc | 3

The pullout will occur because the weapons have been displayed for the next israeli/us weapons expo.

Posted by: carlos | Aug 2 2014 18:45 utc | 4

Actually RT just report that its not over according to crazy netanyahu himself.

Posted by: Anonymous | Aug 2 2014 18:52 utc | 5

What's Left http://gowans.wordpress.com/
has 3 very informative articles about "Israel's" ongoing fake war against Palestinians. One contains some interesting statistics and in another he postulates that the reason Obama & and Boofhead are so angry with Palestine is that it's one of the few ME countries resisting subordination to Judeo-Xtian interests.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 2 2014 19:01 utc | 6

IMO Obama and Kerry will not seek revenge. They are both empty suits, good at repeating Zionist talking points, but incapable of implementing anything substantive. The best they can do is the occasional "off-mike" complaint, designed to show that they have not totally sold their souls to the devil, which they pretty much have.

Posted by: JohnH | Aug 2 2014 19:06 utc | 7

@7 I wonder why Obama and Kerry even try these feeble protestations. Maybe they realize a growing number of voiceless Americans aren't happy with the slaughter.

Posted by: dh | Aug 2 2014 19:17 utc | 8

Another explanation is that Netanyahu, instead of "giving up," may have satisfied his blood lust. This may merely have been the semi-annual pogrom that kills about 1500 Palestinians and destroys a lot of property. For his ilk, it has become a regular sporting event that takes advantage of the US election calendar, which renders the US leadership more supine than usual.

Now they can go back to business as usual, knocking off random Palestinians who happen to wander into their sights and destroying Palestinian farm land and crops.

Posted by: JohnH | Aug 2 2014 19:33 utc | 9

Max Blumenthal vs crazy zionist on RT debate
www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5tlHsC5GQs

Posted by: Anonymous | Aug 2 2014 19:34 utc | 10

"Without taking many more military casualties Israel can not reach any of its declared objectives in Gaza."

Given the losses that Israel incurs from massively outgunned opponents like Hamas & Hizbollah, I'm wondering if their military prowess isn't more than a little over-rated (not unlike their self-declared status as the world's most humane military). I'd love to see what they could do on a level playing field.

Posted by: BobS | Aug 2 2014 19:44 utc | 11

"...Because Saudi Arabia would also be negatively affected by this pipeline, they have invested $3 billion into financially supporting the Free Syrian Army (FSA) who are terrorizing the Syrian citizens and trying to over-throw Syrian President Bashar al- Assad.

Before the creation of the Iraq, Iranian and Syrian pipeline, “Qatar proposed a gas pipeline from the Gulf to Turkey in a sign the emirate is considering a further expansion of exports from the world’s biggest gasfield after it finishes an ambitious program to more than double its capacity to produce liquefied natural gas (LNG).”...


"...Part of the scheme, according to Turkey, is to strategically move the Nabucco pipeline project to“transport Central Asian and Middle Eastern gas to Europe, bypassing Russia.” In this way, Qatar and Turkey would join efforts and share in the spoils. Europe would rely on Qatar for natural gas instead of Russia.

However, Assad rejected the pipeline prosed by Qatar in favor for the deal with Iraq and Iran. In the end, the proxy wars with Syria and Egypt, the economic terrorism of Cyprus and Greece, and the unadulterated destruction of Gaza, is a cover to ensure that Israel becomes the world leader in natural gas export."

http://www.occupycorporatism.com/home/these-6-nations-have-been-destroyed-by-israels-demand-for-natural-gas/

This is the end snippet of this piece but it gives a credible explanation as to why Qatar and Turkey support Hamas. The piece also shows just how much gaza and the west bank territory has been annexed. Thumbs up to the author.

Posted by: really | Aug 2 2014 19:50 utc | 12

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/news/middle-east/13179-israel-fears-un-investigation-on-its-crimes-in-gaza

While the crime of genocide is relevant to Gaza, another crime against humanity of which most Gazans are certainly a victim is “deportation of forcible transfer of population.”

Here the point isn’t so much criminal liability for the process of involuntary transfer that led to the ghettoization of Gaza in 1948-1949, as correction of that inhumane policy in 2014 as equity requires.

Regrettably, to the question of whether the Israeli Jewish leadership would prefer to have many of the residents of Gaza emancipated from their oppression as peaceful and equal citizenship of Israel, or victimized (along with a smaller but significant number of Israeli Jews) in a continuing one-sided war of democide if not outright genocide, the policies of the last 66 years have given all too clear an answer.

But the realization both that the consequences of the status quo are more or less genocidal to the Palestinians, and that correcting the crime of involuntary transfer offers a better alternative, may yet lead to the peace that has so far proven so elusive.

Margo Schulter @ FDL http://my.firedoglake.com/ctuttle/2014/08/01/the-incremental-genocide-in-gaza/#comment-5

Margo's sources for her comment at posts 14 - 17

http://www.theecologist.org/News/news_analysis/2489992/armed_robbery_in_gaza_israel_us_uk_carve_up_the_spoils_of_palestines_stolen_gas.html

Here's a more responsible version of genocide in the Jerusalem Post

Into the fray: Why Gaza must go

"The only durable solution requires dismantling Gaza, humanitarian relocation of the non-belligerent Arab population, and extension of Israeli sovereignty over the region.

That is the only approach that can solve the problem of Gaza." http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Columnists/Into-the-fray-Why-Gaza-must-go-368862

Posted by: crone | Aug 2 2014 20:42 utc | 13

My favorite Israeli commenter quote was, "The American Congress won't even take a sip of water without Israel's approval." So true...

Having said that, you browse Fox, Breitbart, CNN, MSNBC news comment sections to see the 'white hot rage' of American Fundamentalism, focused against not just 'HAMAS', not just Palestine (Palestine never existed! There are no Palestinians!), but against ALL OF ISLAM.
They honestly believe there will be no blowback if the US liquidates 1.5 billion humans,
who coincidentally, are the only religion that also believe Jesus was a prophet! The irony!

1989 Soviet Union Collapses -> 1990 Wolfowitz Doctrine Transforms Cold War to 'Islam'. QED.

And right on key, NPR starts out Sunday broadcasting a Weep-a-Thon about Assad's butchery in Syria, and won't you please help to bmob Assad, so poor children of Syria play again? (never mind all those 100s of murdered Palestinian children who will never see the sun).

And of course, an obligatory article about Putin-as-Russia mobster-tyrant and how US/EU/IL sanctions must be increased, while Obama is 'putting real pressure on Moscow', yada, yada.

No news about ISIS or the collapse of the US occupation in Iraq and Afghanistan, of course. Nobody cares about 10,000s of dead Iraqi and Afghan children who will never 'play again'.

And now time for TED Radio Hour and the 'meaningful purpose' juggernaut of Common Core testing and Curriculum-by-Technocrats, for US children who will never get to 'play again'.
This is how the Brown Shirts came into being, by the way.

The Empire is like Darth Vader in front, with his robe open in back and his ass showing.
Still lethal, but oh so vulnerable. What a bunch of propaganda buffoons The Chosen are. When are MoAs going to mount superior cointel psyop counteroffensive to save our children?

Posted by: ChipNikh | Aug 2 2014 21:46 utc | 14

6;How about Judeo and non declared atheist interests,as true Christians want none of this,and there are a lot of Palestinian Christians under threat.These born again phony idiots are moonie loonies,a corruption of Christianity.

Posted by: dahoit | Aug 2 2014 22:05 utc | 15

Giving up? Abandoning the air/drone campaign? I fucking DOUBT THAT.

Posted by: L Bean | Aug 2 2014 22:08 utc | 16

ChipNikh @14: "This is how the Brown Shirts came into being, by the way."

Kraft durch Freude. Strength Through Joy. The Democratic Party's model of "social justice", you'll notice, has nothing to do with a "just society".

That flashing warning light is starting to sweat with all the exertion. Those who don't care to line up behind aristocrats should already be heading in an orderly fashion toward the lifeboats.

Posted by: Jonathan | Aug 2 2014 22:09 utc | 17

BobS @11

"One of the top US commanders in GW I called IDF "a bunch of arrogant pricks who wouldn't last ten minutes on a European battlefield.""

The War Nerd about eight years ago during 2008 Lebanon War. From what I've read elsewhere, their air force is the only part of their military that is world class but too small for any prolonged operation. These days, any determined enemy with a decent air defence capability could probably laugh in their face.

Posted by: blowback | Aug 2 2014 22:26 utc | 18

Netanyahoo Is Giving Up

The title of this post combined with the rhetoric seems to be a taunt. An in your face. Is that constructive? Instead of being happy the IDF is pulling out and, for now, no more, or at least not as many, Palestinians will suffer and die you're basically saying, "hey, where are you going you little sissy — is that all you've got?"

Do you want a genocide? Taunts like this don't help matters.

I consider Bibi pulling out a positive decision — the most positive one since this whole crisis began. Let's celebrate it and build upon it. Perhaps now we can draw up and implement my plan to get the non-militant Palestinians the hell out of there before the next incursion.

Posted by: Cold N. Holefield | Aug 2 2014 22:35 utc | 19

He hasn't given up the long-game because there is no accountability. Israel should have been before the bench in the Hague long before now. Cast Lead had several instances of provable war crimes (eg the Grain Mill) but as always, USdotgov must stand strong for Israel as Chief Enablers. The veto option needs revision.

Posted by: Ben Franklin | Aug 2 2014 22:47 utc | 20

"Do you want a genocide? Taunts like this don't help matters."

We know YOU want genocide. You probably pray for it everyday as you stare at the "Bibi" poster on your wall.

Posted by: J.Hoglund | Aug 2 2014 23:04 utc | 21

The "missing" idf soldier confirmed dead as reported by cnn.

Posted by: really | Aug 2 2014 23:10 utc | 22

Posted by: ChipNikh | Aug 2, 2014 5:46:14 PM | 14

So True:(

Posted by: jo6pac | Aug 3 2014 0:40 utc | 23

Unless Israel and it's global army of cheerleaders and dual loyalists radically change their behavior, just a matter of time until anti semitism becomes popular and acceptable again. To be blunt the world would be a more peaceful place if if Zionist butchers conclude that their atrocities pose a real danger to global Jewry.

Posted by: Vollin | Aug 3 2014 2:00 utc | 24

No, it's not that Netanyahu is "giving up", so much as he is "refusing to negotiate".

Well, heck, so what else is new? He has never negotiated anything in good faith, so why should he start now.

Let's face it, he knows as well as anyone that Israel's policy towards the Gaza Strip is inhumane, illegal, and immoral.

And he's perfectly happy that this is the case, so the last thing he wants is a negotiated end to this fighting, because if that were to happen then he'd have to give at least some of the inhumanity, illegality, and immorality of what Israel is doing to the Gaza Strip.

And he doesn't want to do that.

He is perfectly happy with the way that Israel has been treating the Gaza Strip since 2005, and he really does think that if he can just declares "Mission Accomplished!" then he can go back to treating the Gaza Strip in exactly the same way into the foreseeable future.

The issue here is whether outside forces will act to prevent that e.g. if Hamas dares to spoil Bibi's "Mission Accomplished!" moment by refusing to be satisfied with "quiet for quiet, oh, yeah, and the siege remains in place".

Or if the USA/EU/UN decide that Israel has to pay a price for all those bombed-out UN buildings, and the price is the end of that siege.

Maybe Bibi is right: maybe Israel can simply "mow the lawn" every two years and suffer no consequences for it.

But maybe he is wrong, and this time he went too far: he jumped the shark, and his show is about to be cancelled.

Posted by: Johnboy | Aug 3 2014 2:36 utc | 25

b quote "I also expect that Obama and Kerry will be looking for some revenge for the insults Netanyahoo publicly threw at them. His career as politician will be damaged and possibly even over."

both obama and kerry are rubber stamps to a military industrial /financial complex. don't expect anything out of them, or the one's who replace them.. it is rubber stamping all the way with a lot of murder, rape and pillage along the way..

as for the political head of israel - much the same deal..

nothing has changed or will change until enough people say enough is enough with the plutocracy we have running over the planet today..

Posted by: james | Aug 3 2014 3:55 utc | 26

Now Arabs will go back to killing each other with almost none of the outrage. That is how anti-semitism works. As if there isn't a regular bloodbath in the Middle East even when the IDF is at home.

Posted by: jeff | Aug 3 2014 4:18 utc | 27

I wonder what the US Military thinks of the IDF's performance in this latest little lawn-mowing exercise?

They must come to the conclusion that the IDF is a fluffy girls-blouse, hopelessly inept and led by incompetents.

Alarming in itself, but even more alarming to consider that these no-hopers are under the command of someone who:
a) is obsessed with whacking Iran, and
b) insists on telling the US ambassador "Don’t second guess me again"

Holy crap!

So the USA is faced with a pipsqueak who not only insists that he doesn't have to listen to his patron, but who is - without question - utterly incapable of making good on his delusions of grandeur.

Man, doesn't Netanyahu resemble nothing less than a 21st century version of Benito Mussolini?

Which would then make Obama.... oh, my.... best to dump this "special relationship" ASAP.

Because it is "special" in All The Wrong Ways.

Posted by: Johnboy | Aug 3 2014 4:22 utc | 28

'As Israel continues to inflict mass death and trauma on Gaza, influential liberal media figures are mostly staying silent.

MSNBC reporter Adam Serwer has said conspicuously little since the offensive began over three weeks ago. Because the causes of this conflict are so deeply bound up with US political conditions — American taxpayers supply the Israeli government $3.1 billion in annual military aid, and the Obama administration has just authorized shipping over an additional round of munitions — Serwer’s near-total avoidance of the topic seems curious. Having first rose to prominence as a “civil liberties blogger” at the now-defunct American Prospect magazine, there are a multitude of angles from which Serwer might cover Gaza that would accord with his longstanding beat.'
....
Accordingly, a political reporter like Serwer could explicate the Gaza crisis for MSNBC’s audience in all manner of ways. Democratic Party stars like Elizabeth Warren, Hillary Clinton, Andrew Cuomo, Nancy Pelosi, Cory Booker, and many others have declared their unflinching support for Israel – certainly a major political story. Why do putatively “progressive” politicians so fervently back a foreign government’s bombardment of its besieged, blockaded neighboring territory? Maybe that’s worth exploring.
etc
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/some-of-msnbcs-most-prominent-journalists-are-ignoring-gaza-why/

Posted by: brian | Aug 3 2014 4:32 utc | 29

I humbly disagree with B's assessment of the situation. Kerry and Obama will not be "looking for revenge." They will fall right in line and do as the Mad King tells them. I have no idea what it could possibly take to blackmail and cajole American leaders into this level of obedient subservience, but it's increasingly obvious which nation is the dog and which is the tail.

This pullout is no retreat. This is merely getting IDF forces out of the way before recommencing their campaign of destruction. I've heard the likes of Morton Klein bragging about how humanitarian it was for the Israelis to pull out of Gaza the first time. My ass. One doesn't rain destruction down until after one clears their own forces out of harm's way first.

Posted by: Monolycus | Aug 3 2014 4:52 utc | 30

Posted by: james | Aug 2, 2014 11:55:01 PM | 26

I just had a thought...the entire US government is in total agreement on a policy. And that policy is not to piss of Israel. Republicans and Democrats are genuinely on the same page for once. Not to say that they usually are not on the same page, with that good cop bad cop slapstick comedy routine they are trying to pass off as responsible governance down in dc. Sad.

Posted by: really | Aug 3 2014 4:55 utc | 31

@ 29: Yep. The NEW final solution is ongoing. Gaza is the new Warsaw Ghetto.

Posted by: ben | Aug 3 2014 5:47 utc | 32

@b

" Netanyahoo Is Giving Up "

HuH ?? I 'd expect to read this kind of comment in some apologetic Western puppet newspaper or blog. For anyone that has read anything about Israel this Palestinian genocide is a recurring episode initiated by Israel. Its indiscriminate military actions last until Israel's suspects its US and Western AIPAC lackeys feel embarrassed and humiliated enough to where they might actually be forced world opinion to take a stand against Israel. After all, anyone, even the AIPAC lackeys, can only stomach some much carnage - indiscriminate shelling of churches and UN designated buildings, hospitals and essential infrastructure, not to mention the pictures of dead children and civilians. ( Israel has a particular hatred for anything UN and targets them whenever possible - the UN
is the only organization the attempts to call Israel to account )

So, " Netanyahoo Is Giving Up " not really - He again asserted his arrogance by demonstrating he can do what he wants.
He humiliated and exposed the US and Western subservience to the Israeli APAIC control. The Western press toed the Israeli line completely. No dissent was allowed.
He destroyed Palestinian infrastructure, killed some 2000+ Palestinians and terrorized and traumatized Palestinian civilians for the rest of their lifetime. The Israeli plan to exterminate the Palestinians and absorbing their remaing land is working to perfection for Netanyahoo.

Posted by: curious | Aug 3 2014 6:13 utc | 33

NEWS: Israel just bombed a UN school again, atleast 10 deaths reported.

Posted by: Anonymous | Aug 3 2014 9:33 utc | 34

i feel the earth move under my feet.

3 companions,7 falling stars,the earth shall open,an ancient stream shall flow

a wave of sand,a wave of fire,a wave of water.

Posted by: bb | Aug 3 2014 9:51 utc | 35

fundamentalist islam seems to think islam is fundamentally about grand theft, murder, war....the jihadis dont seem bothered by the bad PR
MORE: Islamic State seizes 3 Iraqi towns & oil field in offensive against Kurds http://on.rt.com/fpg5s1

Posted by: brian | Aug 3 2014 11:20 utc | 36

@brian #23: I'm sorry for being slow on the draw here, but I fail to see the relevance of that to the rest of this particular thread. Could you please elaborate on how that's germane to this discussion and catch me up to speed? Thanks.

Posted by: Monolycus | Aug 3 2014 12:06 utc | 37

Sorry, I meant brian #35. Been a long day.

Posted by: Monolycus | Aug 3 2014 12:07 utc | 38

Simply superb. Balistino Chilean club replaces the number one shirt with a map of Palestine (Translated by Bing)
https://www.facebook.com/PalestineTv/photos/a.132592190144117.25560.132091353527534/727332157336781/?type=1&theater

Posted by: brian | Aug 3 2014 12:24 utc | 39

Israel wiretapped Kerry’s calls during peace talks – report - RT
http://rt.com/news/177660-kerry-eavesdropped-israel-talks/

Israeli agents were eavesdropping on US Secretary of State John Kerry as he was mediating last year’s futile Middle East peace talks, German magazine Der Spiegel has revealed.

Note that it was a German paper which reported the story.

The story will probably not even make it into MSM in the U.S.. On the off chance that it does, it will be interesting to see the contortions of U.S. govt in minimizing the scandal.

Posted by: pantaraxia | Aug 3 2014 12:28 utc | 40

This is a song that kind of fits my mood about conflict and oppression throughout the globe.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LAAl5bsTsXQ

Posted by: really | Aug 3 2014 12:53 utc | 41

yesterday the BBC had a segment on the Times of Israel loggers who suggested outright genocide as a "solution" the the Palestinian "problem". It then immediately stated, in BBC voice of God narration (this is not verbatim, but the point is the same) " certainly no Israeli would seegenocide as solution to the conflict". "certainly no Israeli" ... except for the one you just mentioned, of course, and probably a great many others if one person is willing to express it publicly.

Until the press starts to report on the virulent racism in Israeli society which drives these campaigns and makes them acceptable, we'll get nowhere.

Posted by: guest77 | Aug 3 2014 13:57 utc | 42

OT - i am traveling and always get a chance to suffer through CNN, blaring through the air terminal like the cafeteria scene in 1984. and this morning I have been treated to Mike Rogers - supposed representative of the American People - defend vigorously the agency he is supposed to oversee.

GOD BLESS AMERICA.

Posted by: guest77 | Aug 3 2014 14:01 utc | 43

Well this is a no-brainer, much belabored, point.

With the US support for Isr. in terms of arms, 3 billion a year (think of it, a fantastical sum) plus all the
added millions for Iron Dome, David’s sling, etc. Isr. and its own arms industry, Isr. chooses perpetual war.

So whatever Bibi does is in line. The thrill of killing ppl in an open air prison who are totally defenceless is great,
the wider issue is that any attack is needed to keep up hate, strife, and certain ppl lining their pockets.
When things get dicey or go too far, he stops, to then plan forward for more murder.

For 2014, aid to Isr. :

3.1 billion, plus:

for the Iron Dome - 504 million

David’s Sling - 150 million

Arrow II, III - 44 million and 74 million,

all pretty much peanut dust compared to the 3 billion.

Budget for 2015 is even larger (see official document.)

http://fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL33222.pdf

Posted by: Noirette | Aug 3 2014 14:53 utc | 44

@29 Monolycus. i agree with you.

@30 really. yes - it certainly looks that way! it is hard to find a dissenting voice.

@43 noirette. thanks for hammering home that point in an ongoing manner.
For 2014, aid to Isr.- 3.1 billion.

the warmongering nation will more then likely up the aid for 2015, while speaking out of the other side of it's mouth about some peace agenda..

Posted by: james | Aug 3 2014 15:11 utc | 45

@43 - perpetual war you say?

Israeli Air Force to Target Residential Areas in Next Lebanon War
General Claims 'Thousands' of Bases in Residential Neighborhoods
by Jason Ditz, January 29, 2014

http://news.antiwar.com/2014/01/29/israeli-air-force-to-target-residential-areas-in-next-lebanon-war/

Looks like there may be some planning for a rematch with Lebanon.

Posted by: really | Aug 3 2014 15:22 utc | 46

OT - i am traveling and always get a chance to suffer through CNN, blaring through the air terminal like the cafeteria scene in 1984.

Hang in there. In no time flat RT will take its place. Larry King's already made the move, and many more will follow. Russia has mastered the worst aspects of Western media production like the Japanese have mastered the best aspects of Western automobile production. Russia's the New & Improved West (all packaging and no nutritional substance) — the new Wild West of The East.

Hey. Larry King: Have You Ever Watched Russia Today?

Posted by: Cold N. Holefield | Aug 3 2014 15:29 utc | 47

bombing un centers which are (supposed to be) protected areas for civilians will no doubt make it harder for the warmongers to justify israel's actions.. they will want to overlook or ignore these details.. goldstone 2 will be harder to dismiss, not that the propagandists didn't work so very hard dismissing goldstone 1.

Posted by: james | Aug 3 2014 15:29 utc | 48

@ 29: Yep. The NEW final solution is ongoing. Gaza is the new Warsaw Ghetto.

Posted by: ben | Aug 3, 2014 1:47:12 AM | 31

If so, doesn't it behoove the international community to get the Palestinians out of such a rat hole? I can empathize with Henry Morgenthau, Jr. It appears everyone's committed to just let this run its course.

Posted by: Cold N. Holefield | Aug 3 2014 15:34 utc | 49

I wonder what the US Military thinks of the IDF's performance in this latest little lawn-mowing exercise?

I think most of them fully understand it from their experience in Iraq and Afghanistan. In that sense, isn't the Obama admin. doing precisely the right thing by laying low with the recent instability in Iraq? Or should they send a million troops and bulldoze Iraq for good? There are not many options in between, you have to admit.

Posted by: Cold N. Holefield | Aug 3 2014 15:39 utc | 50

@46 C.N.H, FUCK THAT SITE..

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 3 2014 15:54 utc | 51

@49 cold... it would have been far better then usa never got involved in iraq, unless they were hoping to rape and pillage the resources while screwing over the little people... same deal ukraine.. for some reason it appears you fail to grasp the significance of a warmongering nation making war everywhere on the planet.. instead it seems you have swallowed what the msm feeds you - the 'foreign policy' link being a good case in point..

the option for the usa that it never takes is cutting off support to israel or ukraine for example.. the reason for the support is for the return the warmongers hope to get and that would be perpetual war...i think that is the point that eludes you..

Posted by: james | Aug 3 2014 16:04 utc | 52

Max Blumenthal twitter:

#Israel has now hit 7 UN schools with airstrikes, it's as though they don't even want to pretend they are not punishing all of #Gaza anymore

There is a protest against the Gaza assault in Lod (Lydda). Right-wing nationalists have come to meet it.

Palestinian and leftist anti-war demonstrators in Lod are contained in a protest cage. http://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/495959787763281921/photo/1pic.twitter.com/V1vVzSVvvB RW'ers are free range.

Middle aged man approaches me: "Take them [Palestinians] away in a truck." Pulls out his phone to show me a map of the Arab world.

Israeli nationalist demonstrators have gathered across from one of Lod's mosques in a Palestinian neighborhood

Spoke to Kobi Snitz, veteran activist. "There is no space left for us in Tel Aviv. RW'ers have full permission from the top to attack us."

Moshe Feiglin, a deputy speaker of Israel's Knesset, issues plan for concentration camps and genocide in Gaza: http://bit.ly/1nhHbjS

Israel duped Obama, knowing Lt Hadar Goldin was dead - its soldiers likely killed him. And the cover-up continues: http://www.richardsilverstein.com/2014/08/02/idf-censor-tells-ny-times-it-cannot-report-it-killed-2nd-lt-hadar-goldin/

Posted by: crone | Aug 3 2014 17:50 utc | 53

“Concentrate” and “exterminate”: Israel parliament deputy speaker’s Gaza genocide plan

Moshe Feiglin, the deputy speaker of the Knesset, Israel’s parliament, has published a plan for the total destruction of the Palestinian people in Gaza.

His detailed plan, which calls for the use of concentration camps, amounts to direct and public incitement to genocide – a punishable crime under the Genocide Convention.

In a 1 August posting on his Facebook page, Feiglin, a member of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s ruling Likud Party, calls for the “conquest of the entire Gaza Strip, and annihilation of all fighting forces and their supporters.”

“This is our country – our country exclusively,” he writes, “including Gaza.”

Feiglin’s posting is the text of a letter he addressed to Netanyahu.

Citizens and public authorities around the world should attempt to have Feiglin arrested and prosecuted under the Genocide Convention for his statements, should he set foot in their territories.

His abominable plan comes as the death toll from Israel’s ongoing slaughter in Gaza reaches 1,752 people, including ten persons killed on Sunday morning when Israel once again bombed a United Nations-run school being used as a shelter, this time in the southern town of Rafah.moshe-feiglin-sq.jpg

Moshe Feiglin (David Rabkin/Wikimedia Commons)

Feiglin, like his Knesset colleague Ayelet Shaked, has previously made genocidal statements, but these are perhaps his most specific and explicit.

Calling for mass extermination and ethnic cleansing, Feiglin now urges Netanyahu to “turn Gaza into Jaffa, a flourishing Israeli city with a minimum number of hostile civilians.”

Jaffa is a major Palestinian coastal city that was ethnically cleansed by Zionist militias in 1948 and incorporated into present-day Israel. The few thousand Palestinians who remain in the city face ongoing attempts to force them out.

As of this writing, Feiglin’s Facebook post had more than eight thousand “Likes” and had been shared almost two thousand times.

Posted by: crone | Aug 3 2014 17:51 utc | 54

@44 noirette

For the actual costs to the U.S. for its ‘special relationship’ read

Economist tallies swelling cost of Israel to US
http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/1209/p16s01-wmgn.html

Dr. Thomas Stauffer, a Harvard economist and Middle East studies professor who twice served in the Executive Office of the President, wrote a comprehensive report about all components of the relationship with Israel’s cost to American taxpayers for the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs in 2003.

There are many more potential categories of costs that are even more difficult to quantify. All in all, Stauffer estimates that Israel cost the US about $1.6 trillion between 1973 and 2003 alone.

If divided by today's population(2003), that is more than $5,700 per person.


note: This does not include the hundreds of tax exempt organizations, from AIPAC on down, which fund everything from congressional trips to Isreal to building settlements in the West Bank, all partially subsidized by the taxpayer, each and every year.

Posted by: pantaraxia | Aug 3 2014 19:34 utc | 55

@50: "I think most of them fully understand it from their experience in Iraq and Afghanistan."

I see. So the US military attacked UN building in Iraq and Afghanistan. I have to admit I missed that news.

And the US Army responds to a report of the capture of one of its soldiers by carpet-bombing the nearest town. I must admit I did not know that.

I think you'll find that what Israel is doing in Gaza isn't actually in the US Army's COIN handbook, mainly because the US Army "fully understands" that such tactics do not work, are illegal, and are immoral.

"In that sense, isn't the Obama admin. doing precisely the right thing by laying low with the recent instability in Iraq? Or should they send a million troops and bulldoze Iraq for good? There are not many options in between, you have to admit."

Riiiiight. Because the only two options that are ever canvassed in this website are those two extremes, correct?

Actually, no, that's merely your straw man argument.

How very hasbarah of you.

Posted by: Johnboy | Aug 3 2014 21:35 utc | 56

Posted by: crone | Aug 3, 2014 1:50:13 PM | 53


contra Max...Israel is not 'punishing' gaza: they are commiting open genocide.Its very difficult for any jew to say israel is commiting genocide

still no signs of jihadis going to aid the palestinians

Posted by: brian | Aug 3 2014 22:10 utc | 57

Monolycus @ #30

"Kerry and Obama will not be "looking for revenge." They will fall right in line and do as the Mad King tells them. I have no idea what it could possibly take to blackmail and cajole American leaders into this level of obedient subservience ..."

Report: Israel tapped John Kerry's phone when he was brokering peace talks

Yep, like the comment there says, "three billion dollars of foreign aid [a year]cant buy loyalty"

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 3 2014 22:11 utc | 58

I 'heard' Obama bumped that aid amount to 5 bn/yr -

does anyone know anything about this?

Posted by: crone | Aug 3 2014 22:37 utc | 59

@58 Heh, if Netanyahu ratchets up the insults and denigration of Obama when talking to the US Ambassador to Israel then, who knows?, he might even be able to crack the $10billion/year mark.

After all, that is the pattern, isn't it?
Saying "no" to Obama is probably got for another billion from Uncle Sugar.
Torpedoing Kerry's diplomacy must be worth an extra billion from the US treasury.
Stomping on a Palestinian unity deal that the USA approved is (obviously) only chump-change - maybe $100mil, tops.
Actually KILLING Palestinian civilians by firing away all those US-gifted munitions? Heck, here, have some more.

There must be some further humiliation of the USA that Netanyahu can come up with, all the better to play that oh-so-Israeli game of slapping the President with one hand while rifling through his pockets with the other.....

Posted by: Johnboy | Aug 4 2014 0:47 utc | 60

Israel’s invasion of Gaza has been messy, killing over 1,800 Palestinians, mostly civilians and 60 plus Israeli soldiers in around three weeks. While the 60 something IDF soldiers don’t sound like much compared to Palestinian losses, based on population size this would be like the US losing 3,000 troops. For some perspective, the US only lost around 4,600 troops during the whole of the war in Iraq.

The world’s angry reaction to Israels atrocities in Gaza, where it clearly targeted schools, mosques, UN facilities and especially children has placed a lot of heat on the Obamanation for its support and protection of its little brother Israel.

From Israel’s standpoint it is in its interest to “finish off” Hamas, by not only blowing up the tunnels but by fully disarming the people of Gaza and arresting or better yet killing Hamas’s leaders. And the IDF would need to do this quickly, so that their operation is a fait accompli before any nation state in the world could get it together to do anything more than talk.

Washington on the other hand wants this nightmare over with yesterday. It has far more important fish to fry in the Ukraine and with its plans for selling NATO’s expansion to the Europeans. Yesterday Washington won a round. It convinced Netanyahu to back off, while it would try yet again to find a diplomatic solution. More on Red Pill Views

Posted by: Robert Gorden | Aug 4 2014 2:54 utc | 61

"They we sing songs about us" ..., remember that?

I can see it now, blame the first black president for a foreign policy nuclear first, (exchange) second and third strike. harrowing in the new epoch of environmental collapse. And the people in power, still in power. Waht's left of them, and us. Then America becomes racially tribal and balkanised. Like some kind of post apocalyptic film. Only real. Will Jeb and Papa Bush rule from South America or China?

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 4 2014 3:09 utc | 62

Noirette @44 I utilized your comment in my latest Gaza Update: Bibi’s Worried, The Carnage Continues, and Global Protests

Posted by: CTuttle | Aug 4 2014 8:16 utc | 63

"Veteran Middle East watcher Robert Fisk compares our reaction to two recent alarming death tolls – in Gaza where more than 1,300 people have died, and the 298 passengers who were killed on the MH17 plane crash. He explains the deep, historical background to the current conflict."

Link to robert-fisk-on-gaza-26-mh17

Posted by: xt | Aug 4 2014 13:07 utc | 64

Gaza Update: Bibi’s Worried, The Carnage Continues, and Global Protests

Meanwhile, in the Knesset today, the hatred boiled over again… Acting Knesset Speaker Moshe Feiglin expels ‘Arab’ Knesset members…

wrt above - a quote from Margo Schulter at FDL:

"Imagine if, when Senators Wayne Morse of Oregon and Ernest Gruening of Alaska had expressed their courageous dissents to the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution not quite 50 years ago, they had been expelled from the Senate instead of allowed to cast their two votes for justice.

That is the reality now for the Palestinian citizens of Israel, as seen in the Knesset. Their expulsion from the podium shows, as has been clear since 1948, that “Israeli apartheid” is a problem in all of Historical Palestine, not only the portion which was to be conquered in the 1967 war.

The alleged ideal and reality of “a Jewish and democratic state” are illusorty: democracy can be truly democratic only if shared in an Israel which is “a state of all its citizens,” including the Palestinian Arabs.

The official “peace process,” of course, has been designed to avoid rather than squarely address this basic issue. But the grassroots peace process around the world, shocked by the new slaughter in Gaza and the repression of protest against it by Palestinian Members of Knesset, can and should make equal citizenship and true democracy a central issue."

Source

Posted by: crone | Aug 4 2014 17:02 utc | 65

This is an excellent commentary by chris hedges. It is worth the read.
http://www.opednews.com/populum/pagem.php?f=Why-Israel-Lies-by-Chris-Hedges-Hamas_Israel_Israel-Attacks-Gaza_Israeli_Propaganda-140804-834.html

Posted by: really | Aug 4 2014 20:06 utc | 66

Netanjahu is indeed "on the way out". He has political competition from Naftaniel Bennett who is becoming more popular than Netanjahu. But Bennett is even radical than Netanjahu. And that could splinter the current israeli coalition.

Posted by: Willy2 | Aug 4 2014 20:14 utc | 67

I found another article that discusses the deception used by Israel in the latest attack. It tends to support your earlier thread.
http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2014/07/misleading-kidnapping-almoz-hamas-vengeance-hatred.html#

Posted by: Curtis | Aug 4 2014 22:07 utc | 68

Add Garnier products to those to boycott:

Garnier care packages boost Israeli soldiers' beauty regimens

Posted by: crone | Aug 4 2014 23:21 utc | 69

BBC reporter quits his job after article censored because he said he saw no evidence of hamas using human shields.

http://www.dailysabah.com/europe/2014/08/04/bbc-reporter-quits-after-his-story-on-gaza-censored

Posted by: really | Aug 4 2014 23:53 utc | 70

Old McNetanyahoo had a pig farm. EI-EI-EIO

Posted by: cliff fink | Aug 5 2014 2:37 utc | 71

Oh man, after months of sheer not-giving-even-a-tiny-little-fuck, I finally clicked into Corn Hole's site and saw an article that had 15 comments, and I was like "Whoa, this guy has a following!" ... then I clicked and 90% of the comments were him replying to himself.

And I'm back to not giving even a tiny little fuck. Feels good.

Posted by: guest77 | Aug 5 2014 3:44 utc | 72

Old McNetanyahoo had a pig farm. And on that farm he had an international boycott of Israeli goods. with a boycott here, and a boycott there, and everywhere, everywhere a boycott everywhere. Old McNetanyahoo had a pig farm. Oink, oink, oink. EI-EI-EIO

Posted by: cliff fink | Aug 5 2014 5:47 utc | 73

Stupid palestinians accepted the 72hr truce so israel could get a way out from its war crimes!

Posted by: Anonymous | Aug 5 2014 9:06 utc | 74

wipe them off the map? interesting how israelis can say this and no MSM or Western outcry
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/08/05/374097/israeli-official-urges-gaza-destruction/

Posted by: brian | Aug 5 2014 12:36 utc | 75

http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/08/apocalypse-blair/

http://mobile.newsnow.co.uk/h/Current+Affairs/International/Former+World+Leaders/Tony+Blair,+UK

Tony Blair is supposed to be brokering talks between israel and hamas in norway. Good luck to the palestinian people they are going to need it. Blair is and will always be looking out for himself and his crony handlers. Tony Blair should be banned from any negotiations in the middle east.

Posted by: really | Aug 5 2014 12:38 utc | 76

People should not put all Jewish people in the same category regarding the conflict in gaza. The msm is doing a disservice to the palestine-israel discussion by not reporting on these protests.

http://www.nkusa.org/

Posted by: really | Aug 5 2014 15:02 utc | 77

re 74 Stupid palestinians accepted the 72hr truce so israel could get a way out from its war crimes!

It's more complicated than that. IDF ground forces have withdrawn today finally, and most importantly, there is no feeling among the troops that they have in any sense "won" (Harriet Sherwood)

"None seemed to think the war had ended in victory for Israel. It was too messy, too uncertain, and – some said – too many people had died."

No victory=another nail in the coffin for Israel.

Posted by: Alexno | Aug 5 2014 18:01 utc | 78

I meant: No victory=another nail in the coffin for Israeli policy

Posted by: Alexno | Aug 5 2014 18:04 utc | 79

In Gaza, there is no such thing as 'innocent civilians'

"... In a war between states, each side is entitled to use its ability to pressure the other side. The fact that we are fighting with one hand and supplying food and energy to the enemy state with the other hand is absurd. This generosity strengthens and extends the ability of the enemy state of Gaza to fight us.

You probably have two questions now. First, why should Gaza's residents suffer? Well, they are to blame for this situation just like Germany's residents were to blame for electing Hitler as their leader and paid a heavy price for that, and rightfully so.

Major-General (res.) Giora Eiland is a former head of Israel's National Security Council.

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Read entire piece...

From Max Blumenthal tweet:

Red Cross co-sponsoring event with INSS: http://www.inss.org.il/index.aspx?id=4480&eventid=7103 … INSS research director just called for Gaza genocide: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4554583,00.html

Posted by: crone | Aug 5 2014 20:41 utc | 80

Palestine pushing for Hague Court probe into Israeli ‘war crimes’ in Gaza

Israeli army summarily executed fleeing civilians in southern Gaza

Even before a short-lived ceasefire allowed journalists to enter the besieged southern Gaza Strip town of Khuzaa on 1 August, desperate reports of an Israeli massacre — including execution-style shootings — had emerged from survivors who had escaped to nearby Khan Younis.

Once journalists were able to enter the choked-off village, they found slain bodies and the stench of decay. Journalist Jesse Rosenfeld described one scene, among several, that appeared to be the site of a summary execution: “Blood and blackened remnants are caked on the bathroom floor. The walls have been drenched in blood and they are pocked with scores of bullet holes that look as if they were fired from an automatic weapon at waist level.”

Fifty-one bodies were recovered on 1 August.

Deliberately firing on civilans

On Saturday, Ali Abunimah reported on a video apparently made by Israeli soldiers from the Givati brigade on 30 July, recording their dedication of the destruction of a mosque in Khuzaa to fallen Israeli soldiers.

Now, after conducting its own investigations into the events between 23 and 25 July, Human Rights Watch has accused the Israeli army of deliberately firing on and killing civilians in the southern Gaza town of Khuzaa, violating several laws of war.

After interviewing surviving witnesses in Khan Younis, Human Rights Watch was able to chronicle the war crimes committed by the Israeli army. Such crimes include firing on civilians carrying white flags in an attempt to flee the village; shooting at medical workers attending to a mortally wounded Red Crescent paramedic volunteer; denying medical care to Palestinians in Israeli custody; and shooting at civilians after they were ordered to exit their homes.

This is not the first time such crimes have been committed in Khuzaa. As both Human Rights Watch and the Goldstone report documented, during Israel’s 2008-2009 offensive on Gaza Israeli soldiers shot at several Palestinians in Khuzaa carrying white flags, killing at least one and injuring more.

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Posted by: crone | Aug 5 2014 20:43 utc | 81

Posted by: crone | Aug 5, 2014 4:41:47 PM | 80

So this Major-General (res.) Giora Eiland is equating gaza which is an occupied outdoor prison camp a "state"? Since when did Israel recognize the gaza strip as a state? I guess gaza is a "state" in this "persons" twisted mind when it fits that absurd and debaucherous narrative posted @80. Those comments by Major-General (res.) Giora Eiland who is a former head of Israel's National Security Council are disgusting.

Posted by: really | Aug 5 2014 21:02 utc | 82

@80 Giora Eiland is, very clearly, an ignorant idiot.

Not only does he pull the most obvious of sleight-of-hands (Gaza is "a state", wtf??), he also writes this howler: "We should have declared war against the state of Gaza (rather than against the Hamas organization), and in a war as in a war."

Giora, baby, n.o.b.o.d.y. "declares war" any more.

The very concept was thrown out of the window when the UN Charter prohibited the use of "war" as policy.

To "declare war" is to publically announce that you are choosing warfare as your means of getting your way i.e. that you are embarking on a War Of Choice, rather than just defending yourself against someone.

Therefore to "declare war" is as good as standing up and hanging a sign around your neck that reads: I'm A War Criminal.

And all for no purpose, certainly not the purpose that Eiland claims.

In the post-1945 world there is only "armed conflict", and it is an entirely fact-based construct i.e. either two sides are shooting at each other ("armed conflict") or they aren't ("ceasefire").

There is no declaratory nonsense involved in any of that, and so this dimwit is wrong to think that "declaring war" makes any difference to what you can (and can't) do while the guns are roaring and the bodies are falling.

This is very simple: when the shooting starts then there is "armed conflict", and from that moment on International Humanitarian Laws apply, and there is no "declaration" that you can make - none - that grants you extra leeway under those laws.

I mean, good grief, he doesn't know that?

What do they teach at the IDF officer training? Religious intolerance and mayhem, and that's it?

Posted by: Johnboy | Aug 5 2014 22:01 utc | 83

I must apologize to Moon Of Alabama website for my two comments above dealing with the children's song ' old McDonald had a farm' using Netanyahoo instead. I recently read a commentary on Counterpunch.org written by Andre Vltchek who wrote that he was going to try writing more creatively to try and move his readers to action against the injustices of the world because stating the raw facts with complex analysis was getting him nowhere. So I tried a little experiment here to see if anyone would pick up on the song and add a new line. If it had worked I am sure it would have been a very eccentric, eclectic song and would have been fun to help write and sing. But It went nowhere fast. So much for the creative side. Albert Einstein said once that the imagination was worth more than knowledge, but people tend to get wrapped up in facts and we all want to feel important which leaves out a little fun time. Satire is an art not well learned. Once again my apologies to Moon of Alabama and its contributors. Drinks are on me!

Posted by: cliff fink | Aug 6 2014 0:44 utc | 84

@84
I got a chuckle out of it. :)

Posted by: really | Aug 6 2014 1:19 utc | 85

@84

Sorry, I lose my sense of humor when children are being bombed. I couldn't figure out what you were trying to convey... again, sorry.

Posted by: crone | Aug 6 2014 1:49 utc | 86

You miss the point. It is not that the tragedies in Gaza are fun but rather more like a court jester whose job it was to poke fun at the king when he made a bad judgment or law. The jester had to be wise enough not to lose his head but cunning enough to make a joke to enlighten the king of his error. And anyone who has created all his life knows that stepping back and relaxing fills the mind with new trains of thought. Being overwhelmed with serious injustices causes one to lose the ability to think out side the box. One does not sit at a whiskey bar and laugh about murder, but he does relax, enjoy the moment, then returns to seriousness. If Netanyahoo insists on insulting the world's intelligence with his perpetual lies, then why not insult is dumb ass back with humor that he is too stupid to grasp! Remember we are all friends here at the whisky bar.

Posted by: clifffink | Aug 6 2014 3:06 utc | 87

@87

sorry again... I didn't miss your point, thought you were making fun of Bibi...

and you're right, I have been much too serious all my life, advocating for women and children and when the crisis is at hand I am overwhelmed... I am trying to relax a little more. Please, insult Bibi all you like, in fact you can't do it enough. And, yes we are all friends here. Namaste

Posted by: crone | Aug 6 2014 4:01 utc | 88

I do not wish for the Nation Of Israel to hate me, but rather for it to behave like a respectable citizen of this planet earth and return to the virtues of the God who picked it as His chosen ones. They alone have the ultimate responsibility to conduct themselves as God-fearing even more so than the Muslims and the Christians. Unfortunately they seem to think of them selves not as God fearing but God blessed which begets hubris to hell and back. God blessed or God anointed seems to be the damnation of all three religions. If the Nation of Israel would return to its roots and worship the God of Abraham like Abraham did then maybe, just maybe Washington would follow suit and we could all live in peace for a change! And if making fun of the stupidity of our rulers is the only why for change then by all means let us all become court jesters!!!

Posted by: clifffink | Aug 6 2014 4:17 utc | 89

clifffink @89

[...] for the Nation Of Israel [...] to return to the virtues of the God who picked it as His chosen ones. [...]
I can hear your little bells jingling, you really are a court jester.

Posted by: Juan Moment | Aug 6 2014 5:09 utc | 90

Tis a grand marvel to be a jester.....knowing that all religions are spelled into one package that is best summed up by the native American Indian's belief that we are all brothers and sisters to the same father and the earth is our mother. Jingle, jingle...one must be quite astute to not lose his head over things that will never change all the while trying to change them!

Posted by: clifffink | Aug 6 2014 5:44 utc | 91

This thread is not going as planned so.........Old McNetanyahoo had a pig farm EI-EI-EIO. And on that farm he had a mossad agent. With a spy here and a kidnaping there and an assignation over there and everywhere a computer virus everywhere, everywhere. Who's afraid of the big bad wolf? Not I said the pig living in a brick house one hell of a long was from Gaza whose grandparents were gassed in Germany though not Jewish even though everyone thinks that just Jews were victims of the holocaust and must have pity on. Oink, Oink.... Let the American taxpayer have pity on the over $60 billion dollars Washington has given Israel to annihilate the Palestinians. EI-EI-EIO

Posted by: clifffink | Aug 6 2014 7:06 utc | 92

This guy makes the obvious point at length ... What if the Children Dying in Gaza Were Jews?.

It's good to read him stretch it out paragraph after paragraph. Western 'civilization' ain't what it's cracked up to be. While our UN gently sleeps ...

Phil Giraldi has a startling insight : A Modern Guernica Enabled by Washington. He follows up less well than Robert Bonomo, it seems to me, but the image ... yes Gaza is Guernica, Bibi is Franco, Obama Der Fuehrer and Cameron Il Duce.

And I fear much, much more to come ... just like last time.

Posted by: john francis lee | Aug 7 2014 7:51 utc | 93

wsws.org has a link to the more to come pdf.

Posted by: john francis lee | Aug 7 2014 8:04 utc | 94

The countdown to the end of the 72hour ceasefire is getting very near now, and reports are that Israel won't budge on its core demands:
a) Hamas has to be defanged (and I want *you* to do it), and
b) Hell no, this endless siege is non-negotiable. Don't even think about suggesting it.

Which obviously means that Israel expects Hamas to be too scared to pick up the cudgels again, at which point Netanyahu won't much care about (a) so long as he retains (b). He'll then view that as a "victory".

But what if Hamas doesn't fold? What if they do pick up the cudgels again and start launching more rockets, and start emerging from tunnels that Weren't Quite As Cleared As Gantz Had Thought They Were?

What then?

Does "the West" give Bibi carte-blanche to go Whammer Jammer all over again?
Or does "the West" tell Bibi to suck it up, dude, because the only way this is going to end is if you abandon that siege?

Netanyahu might just be sweating that Hamas is about to call his bluff.


Posted by: Johnboy | Aug 7 2014 8:17 utc | 95

People should not put all Jewish people in the same category regarding the conflict in gaza.

http://www.nkusa.org/

Posted by: really | Aug 5, 2014 11:02:10 AM | 77

This article explains my comment above.

http://www.opednews.com/populum/pagem.php?f=Israel-is-Hurting-the-Jewi-by-Lily-Chamberlain-Anti-semitism_Apartheid_Demonstrations_France-140807-693.html

"...Hence, just as Lilienthal cringed at Ben Hecht's assertion that Israeli violence gave all American Jews "a little holiday in their hearts" [8], we should cringe in turn at Netanyahu's blind insistence that Israel must be recognized as a Jewish State -- and all the racist, apartheid legislation that goes with that distinction. We should cringe, also, before any attempt to personify Israel into an entity with "Jewish" characteristics(Alan Dershowitz dedicated a whole chapter in his book, 'The Case For Israel', to justifying his classification of Israel as "the Jew among nations" [9]). Because these assertions are at the root of the belief that all Jews support Israel, and that all supporters of Israel are Jewish -- and, therefore, that anti-Semitic violence is a legitimate form of anti-Israel protest at times like these.

This is how Israel is hurting the Jewish people. Its signature cocktail of arrogant rhetoric ('we speak for all Jews') and wartime atrocities is driving the anti-Semitism machine all over the world. Whereas Hamas can only target a handful of Jews with its puny inefficient rockets, Israel can (and will) bring the world Jewry to its knees, with state of the art weaponry that may as well be directed at the very people it claims to represent and protect. Every Palestinian child Israel slaughters, every school it bombs every house it demolishes for no discernible reason -- these endeavors backfire into the face of the innocent Jewish people. I hence suggest to the Israeli leadership that they abandon Operation Protective Edge at once, for the following reason: clearly, to them the life of one Israeli -- one Jew, specifically -- is worth a hundred times more than the life of a Palestinian. Their wailing screaming tantrum over the alleged kidnapping of Israeli soldier Hadar Goldin, while the Knesset bombs Gazan hospitals without batting an eye, demonstrates that plainly enough.

So, Israel, if you won't end this massacre for the sake of the Palestinians, their wailing screaming tantrum over the alleged kidnapping of Israeli soldier Hadar Goldin, while the Knesset bombs Gazan hospitals without batting an eye, demonstrates that plainly enough. So, Israel, if you won't end this massacre for the sake of the Palestinians, wil you do it for the sake of Jews?"

Posted by: really | Aug 7 2014 18:45 utc | 96

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