Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
July 1, 2014
Syria: A Slight Breeze of Change

Leslie H. Gelb, president emeritus of the Council on Foreign Relations, in an NYT op-ed:

The greatest threat to American interests in the region is ISIS, not Mr. Assad. To fight this enemy, Mr. Obama needs to call on others similarly threatened: Iran, Russia, Iraqi Shiites and Kurds, Jordan, Turkey — and above all, the political leader with the best-armed forces in the region, Mr. Assad. Part of the deal would need to be that the Syrian regime and the rebels largely leave each other alone.

The Obama administration now seems to take the threat of the Islamic State for real as it increases the troop deployment to Iraq to secure an eventual embassy evacuation:

The deployment includes "a detachment of helicopters and unmanned aerial vehicles, which will bolster airfield and travel route security," [Pentagon spokesman] Kirby said in a written statement.

The 300 troops are in addition to 300 U.S. advisers who will help train Iraq's security forces. They will bring the total of American forces in Iraq to about 800 troops.

From earlier deployments we can assume that there will be at least one additional contractor for each soldier deployed. All together it is quite a capable force and any attempt of a raid against the embassy would likely be defeated. But the threat thereof is now obviously a serious concern.

I take the Gelb op-ed as an early sign that at least some "serious people" in Washington are changing their position towards the Syrian government. Will others follow?

Comments

and down the bottomless money hole it all goes..

Posted by: james | Jul 1 2014 15:51 utc | 1

Look b. Mr Gelb is selling intervention. He does it by “we have to fight ISIS, but we will not intervene, we will let them fight their civil war, and when they are exhausted, we will mediate for a federal state”.
It is a lie. They will support the independence of Kurdistan including Kirkuk and the independence of “Shiite” Basra. They will protect the Green Zone and the oil installations. People in the rest of Iraq can sort themselves out by ethnic cleansing.

Posted by: somebody | Jul 1 2014 16:05 utc | 2

How exactly is ISIS a threat to US interests?
It seems to me that ISIS is actually advancing US interests or Obama would be bombing the hell out of them right now. Instead, the only one he has threatened has been the democratically elected president df Iraq, a Maliki.
The whole caliphate thing smells like a CIA invention to me, eespecially the fact that the US propaganda media is all pushing the very same goofy line. Have you read P Cockburn today?
Isn,t it odd that the new caliphate seems to match the US plan for redrawing the map of the Middle East almost to a T?
And why hasn,t ISIS stormed into Jordan, S. Arabia or Turkey?
Could it be that Obama and company worked out the whole deal with al Durri before the whole operation was put into motion?
I think so.
This whole deal smells fishy to me.

Posted by: Plantman | Jul 1 2014 16:14 utc | 3

300 + 300 = 800
bitchin’

Posted by: john | Jul 1 2014 16:16 utc | 4

It is long overdue. It is clear that the FSA has totally collapsed and the ‘moderate’ rebels are now forced to make one of these choices
1- They join ISIS for a greater cause: Create a Caliphate whose aim is not only to topple Bashar al Assad but to topple Al Maliki and King Abdullah of Jordan also. They will get high pay from Saudi Arabia’s and Kuwait’s generous “closet” Islamists.
2- Fight the Syrian Army to topple Bashar al Assad until the elusive ‘victory’ some still believe in. They will be paid mostly by Qatar
3- Go underground (or in Turkey) and wait hoping to get paid by Qatar and the USA
4- Quit and go home without pay
5- Join the Syrian Army and fight ISIS to free their country from Islamic extremists and foreigners. They will be paid ( little) by the Syrian Government

Posted by: Virgile | Jul 1 2014 16:23 utc | 5

Curious? How closely do the new lines resemble the air enforced sanction lines in the Clinton era?
If Plantman isn’t spot-on then it seems good old extended shock doctrine chaos is the plan ultimately leading to the countries Gelb mentions doing the dirty “clean up” work of ridding everyone of these IS jihadis who lost Syria fighting for US Saudi Turk Qatar et. al.

Posted by: Eureka Springs | Jul 1 2014 16:34 utc | 6

Adding: Whilst China laughs.

Posted by: Eureka Springs | Jul 1 2014 16:36 utc | 7

This deployment of evacuation forces seems to signal the imminent fall of Baghdad and soon after, all of Iraq. With the huge store of weapons that will be in the hands of the Islamic State Syria will face a new and much more potent threat with Assad’s survival very doubtful, in fact impossible.
The Islamic State is a Juggernaut whose planning and persistence is phenomenal, we have never seen anything like it and woe be to those who underestimate its power and vision.

Posted by: Wayoutwest | Jul 1 2014 16:54 utc | 8

US action will very much resemble the former no fly zone.

Posted by: somebody | Jul 1 2014 17:10 utc | 9

All together it is quite a capable force and any attempt of a raid against the embassy would likely be defeated.
Just like Benghazi, right? Perhaps what we’re seeing is Benghazi II, but this time around, it will be used as pretext for a previously feigned reluctance to return to Iraq. You gravitate back to what you do best. Just like Sergeant First Class William James played by Jeremy Renner in Kathryn Gigolo’s excellently directed film, The Foot Locker. In that superb film, James returns to Iraq for a fourth tour of duty after having defused close to 900 bombs. Why? Because it had become him and he had become it. There was no going back to mufti and shopping aisles stocked full with an endless supply of breakfast cereal for James. So, he chose to return to Iraq and shoot for a 1,000 bombs defused. Ironically, he did save lives even though the overall mission he was involved in was responsible for the unnecessary death of so many. Still, James did his part in minimizing the death toll.
James is a microcosm of the macrocosm. When Western troops withdrew in 2011/2012, I said, in my best Arnold impersonation, “they’ll be back.” Everyone sneered. Who’s sneering now?

Posted by: Cold N. Holefield | Jul 1 2014 17:12 utc | 10

cold one – with a doctrine of endless war around the planet, that was an easy prediction!

Posted by: james | Jul 1 2014 17:20 utc | 11

Adding: Whilst China laughs.
Posted by: Eureka Springs | Jul 1, 2014 12:36:20 PM | 6

China is a laugh, I agree. It’s a tragic comedy witnessed by the Ghost Cities To Nowhere.
China’s Ghost Cities… Are Multiplying

Yet nowhere is China’s historic misallocation of capital (resulting from a pace of credit creation that makes even the most fervent Keynesian western central banker green with envy) more evident and tangible, than in videos showing the tumbleweeds floating down the main streets of its ghost cities. We did that first in 2009, then followed up two years later only to find nothing has changed. Today, on yet another “two years later” anniversary, we go back to the scene of the excess capacity crime, to find out if thing may have finally normalized. For that we follow SBS’ Adrian Brown who back in 2011 did an extensive report on what were some of the then unknown ghost cities dispersed across the mainland.
What we find is that not only is the overcapacity problem nowhere close to being resolved, but that 20 new “ghost” cities are taking shape in this year alone.

Posted by: Cold N. Holefield | Jul 1 2014 17:20 utc | 12

Three hundred’s a popular number. They even made a movie in its name. Coincidence? What’s up with three hundred?

Posted by: Cold N. Holefield | Jul 1 2014 17:29 utc | 13

Loved this bit …and above all, the political leader with the best-armed forces in the region, Mr. Assad.
LOL. That’s the understatement of the Nixed American Century.
With Iran, Russia & China on-side, Syria has the best war-fighting assets in the world. That’s why Obama has been so timid since October 2013.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jul 1 2014 17:30 utc | 14

Look b. Mr Gelb is selling intervention. He does it by “we have to fight ISIS, but we will not intervene, we will let them fight their civil war, and when they are exhausted, we will mediate for a federal state”.
It is a lie. They will support the independence of Kurdistan including Kirkuk and the independence of “Shiite” Basra. They will protect the Green Zone and the oil installations. People in the rest of Iraq can sort themselves out by ethnic cleansing.
Posted by: somebody | Jul 1, 2014 12:05:53 PM | 2

How I see it as well.

Posted by: erichwwk | Jul 1 2014 17:33 utc | 15

If Maliki was smart he would get rid, forbid or at least undermine the advice of the advisors.

Posted by: Fernando | Jul 1 2014 17:40 utc | 16

One problem with this ridicolous piece is of course that ISIS actually is a Saudi/US/israeli enterprise just like al-CIAeda.
Wake me up when any of these two says one threatening word about the genocidal Zionazi regime in occupied Palestine, which they have failed to do so far much less act on it.
Benjamin Mileikovski/Yahooo`s open support of an Iraq partition to favour their kurdish underlings and the threat to Syria really says it all.

Posted by: notsofast | Jul 1 2014 17:43 utc | 17

Posted by: erichwwk | Jul 1, 2014 1:33:52 PM | 14
Do you have a problem with an independent Kurdistan? The Kurds, much more so than Eastern Ukrainians who aren’t anywhere near as monolithic, truly want their independence from Iraq, Syria and Turkey. I guess since they’re not properly anti-American and pro-Russian they’re not deserved of moral support in their quest for an independent homeland. Instead, you’d prefer they remain locked into absurd arbitrary state arrangements formulated by the colonial British one hundred years prior.
Gee, that’s not a contradiction.

Posted by: Cold N. Holefield | Jul 1 2014 17:44 utc | 18

A relevant Leslie Gelb quote, from an October 18, 1992 NYTimes oped:
Foreign Affairs; No National Interest

Lies about national security affairs have become so routine, so inevitable, that Americans no longer seem interested in the truth.

Posted by: erichwwk | Jul 1 2014 17:46 utc | 19

Do you have a problem with an independent Kurdistan?
Yes i do but “israel” and it´s Zionazi jugendt Hasbara fans dont, so that´s the problem. What´s good for “israel” and the tribe is definitly not good for anybody else.

Posted by: Hole N. Coldfield | Jul 1 2014 17:51 utc | 20

@ 17 who wrote “Do you have a problem with an independent Kurdistan?”
Seems to me you have little interest in what “I have a problem with” (only loosely related to what I said) preferring to speak for me (to conversing with yourself?).

Posted by: erichwwk | Jul 1 2014 17:52 utc | 21

@2, 14, yeah b, does a leopard change its spots.

Posted by: ruralito | Jul 1 2014 17:55 utc | 22

Iraq Kurdistan independence referendum planned in a few months.
How adorable. Just like Bibi called for. Why, it’ll be awesome when Iran has a new Zionist next-door neighbor, won’t it? Good times, good times.
Yeah, those apartheid genocidal Israelis always sitting everything out being so scared of ISIS and shit. Lucky fuckers.

Posted by: JSorrentine | Jul 1 2014 18:12 utc | 23

Posted by: Fernando | Jul 1, 2014 1:40:58 PM | 15
He is smart. It is not his interest to represent all of Iraq. Same goes for Kurdish politicians.

Posted by: somebody | Jul 1 2014 18:18 utc | 24

Russia, China and Saudi Arabia are dumping US treasuries like hell, this is the real reason behind the bizzar penalty of around 9 billion which BNP Parisbas has to pay to the US, as they were the main faciliator of these transactions.( most probably through Belgium)
Of course SA and China and Russia and China are already in extensive negotiations for the ‘day after’ and the emergence of a gold-backed Petro Rubel/Yuan.
Therefore the fake Empire is waging war on Russia through UKR Nuland-fascists and the Langley warriors in the desert of Iraq are ordered to wage war on SA.
This is the reason behind the fear and panic in the house of saud and the statements of the last few days .
Ironically in Iraq , Langely controlled daesh warriors must now face Pentagon soldiers, thus US vs. US, quite a confusing situation.

Posted by: Sufi | Jul 1 2014 18:26 utc | 25

Shorter Gelb: “We cordially invite you all to a little party we call Armageddon”.
It is a hoot to think that the NYT spokesman of Empire, Gelb, is inviting Russia (whose balls the terminators are presently trying to crush) to this little battle royale, to slay the CaliFATE monster.
I am surprised that b supposes that the Obama Team has seen the light. O’s administration has created this monster; and none of their objectives, those long range institutional objectives, aimed at the piecemeal destruction of any significant rivals, has been even slightly altered. We are dealing and have been dealing with psychopaths, for over a decade.
The ISIS…IS…IS…IS is a gimmick, a bloody, crucifying, well-provisioned, well-sold, glossy mercenary army. They have been tooling around and raising long trails of dust through the Iraqi desert, observed continuously by every country that has satellites circling the earth.
The doings of these imposters, their sudden metamorphosis into the global enemy of all who have a dog in this Eurasian fight, is like something of of Central Casting. They are practically and it seems impeccably dressed like fucking Jedi Warriors.

Posted by: Copeland | Jul 1 2014 18:30 utc | 26

@5 The lines aren’t strange. Iraq was fairly odd and worked under the auspices of foreign powers (Hussein was our client until 1990), but without the threat of Ottoman troops picking a side, the natural divides will take over.
Take Libya. If there was no NATO intervention and Gaddafi had a stroke on the first day of the campaign, what would have happened? The same thing that is happening now. The boys were too deranged to take power, and regime strongmen, cultists, tribes, religious types, and the two main cities would fight it out. Oh sure, they might try to work together because the lines aren’t clear, but the conflict would rage in various forms over the first few years. Fights would break out over oil revenue sharing, port duties, police pay, random killings, and so forth.
ISIS may have kick started the affair, but the conflict was there. Sunnis would have made a move as pro/anti-Maliki Shiites (he didn’t win the election outright) fought with the Kurds. They probably would have grabbed the dams and made demands like the Kurds with oil. Hell, they might have tried to sell the water to other countries or open the country to drugs and arms smuggling. Fighting or martial law would occur eventually.

Posted by: NotTimothyGeithner | Jul 1 2014 18:35 utc | 27

And here is some more horseshit narrative propagation right from the mouth of Juan “I Deserve A Knife-Ass Raping ” Cole himself:
First, war criminal Cole takes the time to tie the deaths of those poor settlers – what, living on stolen land is illegal? Huh? – back to ISIS itself.

That is, statelessness produces small violent groups such as Islamic Jihad and perhaps the Palestinian branch of the so-called “Islamic State” of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. It produces them because in the absence of formal state structures, such groups thrive in the interstices of society. And it produces them because statelessness and the consequent deprivation of basic human rights produces potent grievances.

Oh, so it was fucking ISIS that took the kids, huh, Juan? Sorry, you said PERHAPS, my bad! Funny, that you should mention ISIS when it’s obvious that this was an patently obvious attempt to link the false rise of ISIS with the “kidnapping” of the 3 teens – an event btw that the HEAD of Mossad predicted would take place 10 days PRIOR to the event.
Note: funny how the Nigerian school campaign – which Pardo specifically mentioned – and the Israeli teen kidnapping media campaigns were IDENTICAL?
“Bring Back Our Girls” and “Bring Back Our Boys”. Fucking adorable!!
Moving on….
Then Juannie – a fucking PROFESSOR, mind you – decides to tell us that Hamas is just like the other “violent” – boo hiss – resistance groups in the area which are all inevitably the result of ill-treatment by the Israelis. Hmmmm, care to speak to Israeli SUPPORT for Hamas and other jihadi groups when it suited their purposes, Juan Shitrag? Nah, didn’t think so…
And then for the clincher, the take-away from this POS war criminal’s mouth. Yup, the apartheid genocidal Israelis and their US counterparts are…wait for it…just UNAWARE of what they are really doing and should look – hold your laughter – to Maliki as an example as to the “bad” things that can happen to people in the ME.

The Likudniks, whether in Israel or in the US, seem blithely unaware that they are operating in the same world as Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki. He didn’t expect suddenly to lose a third of the territory he controlled. While the surprises awaiting the Likudniks aren’t exactly like those that confronted al-Maliki, that there will be unpleasant surprises is fairly predictable. Grasping, indictive and petty policy always produces tragedies for those who pursue it.

That’s just Juannie being Juannie. War criminal propagandist to the end.

Posted by: JSorrentine | Jul 1 2014 18:43 utc | 28

Sorry if already posted:
Pepe on the apartheid genocidal Israelis and the Kurds. Disagree with his belief that only NOW the Israelis will start their “shady moves” in earnest.

It’s no secret in the “Middle East” that Tel Aviv and the Kurds have had a fruitful working relationship – in military, intel and business terms – since the 1960s. It’s a no brainer Israel would instantly recognize a possible new Kurdish nation-state. No wonder Israeli President Shimon Peres, also this week, told US President Barack Obama, “the Kurds have, de facto, created their own state, which is democratic. One of the signs of a democracy is the granting of equality to women.”
snip
Even an independent Iraqi Kurdistan would be not only the proverbial “friend of Israel” but also a viable, prosperous state; Irbil, for instance, even though it is not Arab, wants to market itself as the Arab Capital of Tourism. And all this in a region Tel Aviv regards – paranoia included – as a basket case of failed states. What’s not to like?
So expect from now on all sorts of made-in-the-shade moves by Israel to advance the Balkanization of Iraq into a Sunni state, a Shiite state and an Iraqi Kurdistan. There’s no question the KRG has been for all practical purposes independent since the First Gulf War in 1991 – boasting its own military (the Peshmerga) and now its own (Baghdad-contested) oil exports.

Posted by: JSorrentine | Jul 1 2014 19:00 utc | 29

Where did the Double-IS get all those terrifying toys!? The “serious people” in Washington will continue to read from the talking points, and for all we know are probably snorting cocaine.

Posted by: Copeland | Jul 1 2014 19:05 utc | 30

I think the attack on the US embassy in Baghdad will happen with chemical weapons, sarin most likely.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Jul 1 2014 19:07 utc | 31

@25 ISIS is putting other goals at risk. The Congress won’t okay the money to fund it at least until the work period around thanksgiving. Russian arms are being delivered after U.S. equipped guys broke.
Whether or not Obama has seen the light, Obama has faced question from tech and defense giants over losing contracts. These industries fear cheaper Russian counterparts outperforming them in real time conditions. Between that outcome and spying, these lobbies must be getting jumpy given the domestic situation. If Iranian drones can handle ISIS, what use is Lockheed?
Obama fears Iran absorbing Southern Iraq outright which means he has to act. ISIS can’t go beyond the suburbs of Baghdad. He needs to find a way to support a unified Iraq or he can kiss the Iraqi oilfields good bye, and Sunni Iraq will just become a haven for terrorism and crime where Western electorate will tolerate intervention. Israel might try to make a play for relations with the Kurds, but no one has the resources or domestic support to control the region except a government in Baghdad with international support.

Posted by: NotTimothyGeithner | Jul 1 2014 19:17 utc | 32

I think the actions of the Kurds are a fruitful place to focus when looking for evidence the the IS blitz was a Great Game criminal conspiracy. Mosul falls on June 10 and two days later Kirkuk is taken by the Kurds with almost zero violence, other than one random case of conflict over booty, between the vaunted Pesh Merga and the Salafis. How can this be? Prior talks certainly took place between Irbil and interested parties in Doha and Riyadh. Rod Nordland, a NYT reporter in Iraq who sticks close to the party line that everything is Maliki’s fault, did let slip in the days immediately following the Kurdish capture of Kirkuk that the Persh Merga and IS fighters were avoiding each other.
More evidence of Great Game collusion came today when Kurdish and Sunni parties walked out of parliament together, effectively delaying the formation of a new government for another week. If all Shiite parties stick together they can get to the 165-votes needed to form a government. The problem is that the main Sadrist coalition, the Al-Ahrar Bloc, is committed to Maliki’s ouster.

Posted by: Mike Maloney | Jul 1 2014 19:56 utc | 33

OT:
Budapest not to turn down South Stream project — prime minister
1 July 2014 22:57
Baku-APA. Hungary is not planning to turn down the project for the construction of the South Stream gas pipeline, despite the fact that official Budapest in general supports Kiev, Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban told a news conference during his visit to Belgrade, APA reports quoting Itar-Tass.
“We will build South Stream, since this project enhances energy security of our country and we will not let Hungary be dependent on Ukraine,” he said, adding that those who sought to halt this project should first offer an alternative solution “how to get fuels.”
http://en.apa.az/xeber_budapest_not_to_turn_down_south_stream_p_213449.html

Posted by: okie farmer | Jul 1 2014 20:37 utc | 34

Posted by b on July 1, 2014 at 11:34 AM
“I take the Gelb op-ed as an early sign that at least some “serious people” in Washington are changing their position towards the Syrian government. Will others follow?”
The western nazis are changing strategy a little to reflect their failure to take Syria with their cannibal terrorist merc force. Gelb wants the Syrian government to call a truce with the west’s mercs. In other words stop kicking their asses and give the buggers some breathing room to regroup, resupply and reposition. Much like the Poroshenko “truce” in the Ukraine. It’s a fraudulent ploy, as usual.
So no change from the western NWO oligarchy. Their fascist goals remain the same.

Posted by: scalawag | Jul 1 2014 20:51 utc | 35

I don’t think I realised that the American troops were going in order to cover the evacuation of the embassy. They’ve got Saigon on the brain.

Posted by: Alexno | Jul 1 2014 21:02 utc | 36

#35 They better have Saigon on their minds. I would be the height of irresponsibility to not protect our personnel there.

Posted by: ToivoS | Jul 1 2014 22:02 utc | 37

I think the Kurds will need to take care.they will only keep a declared independent state with the acquiescence of turkey, Iran, rest of Iraq, Syria. They may feel the time is ripe with Damascus tied up, Iran being nice for sanctions removal attempt,Iraq majority entangled in west,turkey spinning and spun in political fugue… Oh go on there won’t be a better time in fifty years…caution might lead to endless ethnic cleansing of Kurds from the other states. If I were them I would fear more land grabs.

Posted by: bridger | Jul 1 2014 22:20 utc | 38

@35 nah
Obama is sending equipment and another 300 soldiers in… creep anyone?
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Good to see you Copeland… always appreciate your comments…
jsorrentine… as always… right on the money. Thanks.

Posted by: crone | Jul 1 2014 22:32 utc | 39

to verify @ 38
President Obama told Congress on Monday that he is deploying about 200 more troops to Iraq to bolster security at the U.S. Embassy and airport in Baghdad…
Earlier this month, Obama announced the deployment of 275 troops to protect the embassy. In addition to security, these troops will provide “intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance support,” Obama said.
The president is also in the process of sending up to 300 military advisers to assist Iraq as it battles an invading army of jihadists that has taken over major cities and threatens the capital in Baghdad.
A few hundred here, a few hundred there, soon you are talking about real ground troops. It appears that instead of a surge the US will trickle its army back into Iraq.
These numbers, of course, exclude forces already on the ground in the truly massive US embassy in Baghdad as well as those who are politely referred to as “contractors” who are working as soldiers of fortune in Iraq courtesy of the US taxpayer. No rank, no insignia, just pointing and shooting on orders from Washington.
What could go wrong?
http://news.firedoglake.com/2014/07/01/obama-uses-war-powers-to-send-more-troops-to-iraq/

Posted by: crone | Jul 1 2014 22:39 utc | 40

Posted by: Cold N. Holefield | Jul 1, 2014 1:20:54 PM | 11
when it comes to comedy,nooone does it like cold and hole in the head

Posted by: brian | Jul 1 2014 22:50 utc | 41

comment lifted:

“Obama Uses War Powers To Send More Troops To Iraq”

comment lifted:

the Oils wars are going to be Foggy and Complicated!

“For example, the U.S. is supposedly fighting a war on terrorism, but has been in an unofficial military alliance with ISIS and other al-Qaeda groups in Syria, since all of them were actively waging war on the Syrian government.”

who”>http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/07/01/regional-war-swallowing-the-middle-east/

who

are we fighting in Iraq? or are we just protecting the Oil wells?

“When ISIS invaded Iraq the governments of Syria and Iran immediately offered assistance, while Obama stalled.”

Obama did not rush to destroy ISIS? interesting

Iraq begged Obama to deliver promised fighter jets to fight ISIS, Obama chose instead to give extra military aid to the U.S. backed Syrian rebels, to the tune of $500 million. The Syrian rebels have been completely dominated by Islamic extremists for at least two years.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/07/01/regional-war-swallowing-the-middle-east/

Obama really does not care about un-employed USA citizens, poor condition of USA schools, and infrastructure! Yes! ISIS the so call terrorist need USA financial aid, not USA citizens? what a country!

What is Israel doing? are they fighting the Terrorist “ISIS” no!

“Israel, for its part, also ignored ISIS and instead bombed nine Syrian military targets. Israel has bombed Syria several times in the last year, rather than bombing ISIS or the other al-Qaeda groups attacking Syria. ”

Israel must like ISIS also? who knew

Putin is playing chess? what is Obama and our leaders doing? who knows?

“Obama will find it less possible to abstain, since Iran, Syria and Russia will gain wider regional influence at his expense, which is happening by the minute.”

Yes! Putin is supplying weapons to Iraq, Syria, and Iran! the SHIA love Russia!

More Money! More Money! For War!As the Syrian war was spilling into Iraq, Obama requested $5 billion more for Middle East war, as if the gargantuan military budget wasn’t already enough. According to The New York Times:

We all think the USA broke? Notthe Un-employed in the USA, and Poor USA students, your GOVT does not care about you! what so ever!!! 5 billion for more war in the Middle East.

the Oil wars are being fought for the 1% not the 99%!

the 99% can’t get 1 billion? WOW

Yes the Terrorist are winning!

http://news.firedoglake.com/2014/07/01/obama-uses-war-powers-to-send-more-troops-to-iraq/

http://news.firedoglake.com/2014/07/01/obama-uses-war-powers-to-send-more-troops-to-iraq/

Posted by: crone | Jul 1 2014 22:56 utc | 42

This statement by Gelb is significant. This might be hard to appreciate for those who do not understand that the Power Elite in the US is not a single entity. It consists of numerous power centers. The world is in trouble when they reach a consensus on some hare-brained scheme. The original invasion of Iraq being one. The NATO bombing of Libya and support for the insurrection in Syria being others. Right now those three interventions are adding up to a major fiasco.
Obama and Kerry’s big failing is that they have no strategic vision, rather they keep on formulating policies that are designed to appeal to the various power centers. They are left reacting to crises that seem to arise more and more often making them (and the US) look powerless. As many here have mentioned that as each crisis emerges the US is taking actions that could easily escalate into even bigger problems. Though there are important players that desire to see the US involved in another major ME war, they are not the ones making the decisions. Unfortunately, the deciders just might blunder into a major war (and not if in the ME, than maybe Ukraine).

Posted by: ToivoS | Jul 2 2014 0:01 utc | 43

Considering the recent interviews with unapologetic neocons Robert Kagan and Dick Cheney — where Kagan claimed that he could be comfortable with a Pres Hillary (who has been more hawkish for the PNAC plan than Obama) and where Cheney denied all responsibility for the mess in Iraq (and finally got a little pushback from the MSM)– perhaps Gelb is trying to gain access to presidential influence through Biden.
Gelb taps into the American public’s reluctance to arm Syrian rebels. Gelb’s suggestion that the SAA stop fighting the insurgents could either be suicidal for Syrian civilians (if suicide bombings and rockets continue to target cities) or it could provide the Syrian government with the opportunity to cement further truces and provide more stability in the heart of Syria while the major battle front shifts to Syria’s north eastern regions (IF the various insurgent groups could be convinced or prevented from attacking civilians — a dubious scenario).
Even so, Gelb is advocating for Obama to recruit a new coalition of the willing to fight in a region that America has no more excuse for intervening than it had over a decade ago.

Posted by: Rusty Pipes | Jul 2 2014 0:11 utc | 44

The perils of the “soft leftism” of The Nation.
Katrina was making good points against dual loyalist Kristol on Stefanapolous this past Sunday.
Then Billy quoted Obama who said (out of opportunist deceit or ignorance) that US troops had made Iraq and left Iraq a stable democracy.
In effect, blessing Bush’s surge which in fact did NOT work, and Iraq was neither stable nor democratic when Obama lied thus
to the troops.
But Katrina, who had been blasting Cheney and Bush was caught off guard because she could or would not criticise the progressive’s
“hero” Obama, and thus allowed Kristol to legitimize Cheney, Bush and the neocons war. Thus legitimized by the likes of Obama
and Katrina, the neocon-lib door is opened for Hillary to sanction more killing for the Anglo-Zionist combine.

Posted by: truthbetold | Jul 2 2014 0:53 utc | 45

Well, we cleared that one up. Looks like I was wrong. FM Lieberman stated today that the apartheid genocidal state of Israel is in NO WAY helping the Kurds gain independence. Oh, it’ll happen but the Israelis and AIPAC and all the rest have nothing to do with anything Bibi might have said earlier.

JERUSALEM, Israel,— Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman described Iraqi Kurdish independence as a fait accompli on Monday but said his country was taking no action to help the Kurds achieve formal statehood.
The remarks appeared aimed at heading off potential confrontation with the United States, which wants to keep Iraq united, after Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Sunday called for support for the emergence of a Kurdish state.
snip
AIPAC, the powerful pro-Israel U.S. lobby, was not helping to promote prospective Kurdish statehood to the Obama administration, a Washington source said.

Thankfully other full-fledged Israeli front groups have taken up the slack. I hope everyone can join the conference hosted by Martin Indyk’s WINEP tomorrow as they host a forum on Kurdistan’s Independence vis a vis ISIS. Notable participants will be Fuad Hussein – chief of staff to KRG president Masoud Barzani – and Falah Mustafa Bakir – head of the KRG Department of Foreign Relations. You’d think those two guys would be too busy or something, huh? Nah. Not for an impartial, well-respected group like WINEP, right?
I’m just sure that there are going to be a lot of surprised/concerned looking faces there. rolls eyes
If you peruse WINEP’s site you’ll find that they’ve sure had a LOT of interest in Iraqi Kurdistan over the years but especially recently as their best minds just try and figure out just what to do.
BTW, here’s a list of WINEP’s Board of Advisors:

John R. Allen, General, United States Marine Corps (ret.)
Howard Berman, former Member of Congress
Birch Evans “Evan” Bayh III, former United States Senator
Henry Kissinger, former Secretary of State
Samuel W. Lewis, former United States Ambassador to Israel
Joseph Lieberman, former United States Senator
Edward Luttwak, Senior Associate at the Center for Strategic and International Studies
Michael Mandelbaum, Director of the American Foreign Policy program at the Paul H. Nitze School of Advanced International Studies
Robert McFarlane, former National Security Advisor
Martin Peretz, former editor-in-chief of The New Republic
Richard Perle, former Assistant Secretary of Defense
Dr. Condoleezza Rice, former Secretary of State
James Roche, former Secretary of the Air Force
George Shultz, former Secretary of State
R. James Woolsey, former Director of Central Intelligence
Mortimer Zuckerman, Publisher of U.S. News & World Report

Yup, WINEP – according to Mearshimer and Walt – THE CORE OF THE ISRAELI LOBBY in the US is hosting a policy discussion on Kurdish independence. Nope, just sitting this one out, boys!!

Posted by: JSorrentine | Jul 2 2014 1:42 utc | 46

One wonders whether, just as Iran suddenly became a reluctant buddy and Burma became a good pal, Assad too has decided to forget about his people and join the neoliberal petrodollar family.

Posted by: Jonathan | Jul 2 2014 1:49 utc | 47

Oh yeah, and here’s a story about how ISIS and Al-CIAda are now going to have to one-up each other in the terra department as each search for relevance. Holy fuck, you’d better be scared.

Anwar Eshki, head of the Middle East Centre for Strategic and Legal Studies in Jeddah, said it was inevitable that an aggressive group like IS would come into conflict with other jihadist groups.
IS, he said, “is like Pacman in the video game: it will devour all the terrorist groups in its path.”

Seriously.

Posted by: JSorrentine | Jul 2 2014 2:06 utc | 48

@45 – lol. thanks jsore.. better not let bevin see that!

Posted by: james | Jul 2 2014 2:31 utc | 49

jsore
WINEP was very instrumental in getting USG to invade Iraq as you probably know. Sy Hersh exposed the group along with their ‘stovepiping’ (some of the youngsters here may not remember, as it was ten yrs. ago.
@42… ahh, ToivoS, now you’re suggesting some of us don’t understand the power structure. Haven’t we been explaining that this entire thread? I don’t agree w/ your comment ~ frankly, I don’t think you do either. I know you and your agenda from your posts at Mondo.

Posted by: crone | Jul 2 2014 2:46 utc | 50

I don’t really give a damn what Israel and WINEP think about Kurdish independence. Just because they support it doesn’t mean Kurdish independence isn’t a valid aspiration and endeavor. Must everything you approve of and morally support be in reaction to what Israel and America supports? It sure seems that way. If so, Israel and America quite literally control you and your mind.
At this point, why not partition Iraq? It’s a failed state and always will be from here on out, so why not accept that very basic fact and divide it up more rationally and logically starting with an independent Kurdistan? As for Syria, it’s just a matter of time for Assad. Of course, it’s just a matter of time, a relatively short matter of time, for the House of Saud as well.

Posted by: Cold N. Holefield | Jul 2 2014 3:43 utc | 51

http://www.voltairenet.org/article184533.html Fourth generation warfare in Iraq
“Atlanticist and Gulf television channels announced the fall of Mosul to ISIL militants six hours before they entered the city.
This technique, typical of 4th generation warfare, is designed to break the morale of the population and to undermine its resistance.
In this respect, the fall of Mosul bears a strong resemblance that of Tripoli (Libya): Atlanticist and Gulf news channels broadcast images contrived in a studio to create the impression that the rebels had entered the capital and taken control of Green Square, its most famous landmark.”
When a tactic works for the western nation wreckers, they stick with it.

Posted by: scalawag | Jul 2 2014 3:44 utc | 52

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-isil-or-daish-caliphate-in-iraq-and-syria-is-a-us-project/5389399 The ISIL or DAISH Caliphate in Iraq and Syria is a US Project
“Nazemroaya: I think that’s an excellent question and let me be clear about this and very categorical. What is called DAISH [Arabic: Al-Dawlah Al-Islamiyah fe Al-Iraq wa Al-Sham] or the ISIL (the so-called Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant) is not the manifestation of the failure of US policy that the United States is trying to present; it is actually the manifestation of US policy.
This is the clear manifestation of what the United States and its allies. including Israel to the south of Syria, have been trying to do in this region for over a decade. For many years now, this is a manifestation of that. The ISIL in Syria want to integrate Syria with Iraq and basically the objective, is to divide both countries and to create sectarian states that are homogenous and only reserved for Sunnis while other groups such as Shiites, Christians, Druze are all expelled.
This is why you have people in the Syrian anti-government forces – the insurgency – for several years now, since the insurgency started in 2011, saying “Alawites to the ground and Christians to Lebanon.” Because what they’re trying to do is and what they’ve been working to do is what some would call ethnic cleansing. I think that term is an oxymoron and actually camouflages genocide.
The Christians in Iraq are almost extinct and that’s because of the United States and Britain. During their occupation the Christians were persecuted.
And now in Syria this fighting is going because the ISIL wants to integrate this area with Iraq. It calls this an Islamic Caliphate, but I want to be categorical; this has nothing to do with Islam. The idea of an Islamic Emirate now is something that the United States has been pushing. The Islamic Emirate when it was disbanded, the last Caliphate under the Ottomans, wasn’t even the authentic Caliphate. Anybody who talks about that isn’t aware of history or has no understanding of Islam.
And the United States has been pushing this as a camouflage. Many in the West believe the ISIL represents Muslims; it doesn’t represent Muslims or Sunnis at all.”

Posted by: scalawag | Jul 2 2014 4:08 utc | 53

Some of the comments on MOA are reading like psycho manifestos. Tedious, eh?

Posted by: Django | Jul 2 2014 6:53 utc | 54

hi matthew, how is helen?

Posted by: michael | Jul 2 2014 7:03 utc | 55

#49 Posted by: crone | Jul 1, 2014 10:46:42 PM
I know you and your agenda from your posts at Mondo.
Oh do you? Please let us know what you have discovered. My point here is that US policy is totally incoherent. There is no over lord puppet master dictating US policy. Right now, US foreign policy has become totally unhinged with reality. Obama and Kerry are right now responding to one ‘unexpected’ crisis after another. Neither they or any other over lord are controlling events.
We are witnessing an interesting event. This is my sense, it might be wrong, but it looks like the US has lost control over international events in a way that has not been witnessed in the last 40 years.
I also think this is a positive development but it is very hard to predict what is going to happen next.

Posted by: ToivoS | Jul 2 2014 7:54 utc | 56

Gelb talks like Poroshenko talks …
Poroshenko launches bloody assault on eastern Ukraine
US Troops Will Fly Attack Helicopters in Iraq
… not only does the assault by Brennan’s IS destroy Iraq, it covers the genocide of his NAZIs in Ukraine as well.
This is the beginning of WW III. I guess we’ll all by sure by August.

Posted by: john francis lee | Jul 2 2014 8:51 utc | 57

Gelb talks like Poroshenko talks …
Poroshenko launches bloody assault on eastern Ukraine
US Troops Will Fly Attack Helicopters in Iraq
… not only does the assault by Brennan’s IS destroy Iraq, it covers the genocide of his NAZIs in Ukraine as well.
This is the beginning of WW III. I guess we’ll all by sure by August.

Posted by: john francis lee | Jul 2 2014 8:51 utc | 58

44
I don’t believe we’ll get there.
I believe the US economy is in a flat spin death spiral. Both Wall Street and WADC and Houston are facing falling revenues. ‘The Market is Dead’ a top-trader admitted the other day. Just flash crash shorters and back room price setters. Corporate fuel standards and the Biofuels Initiative MANDATE are pinching an already tapering Big Oil. There is a huge glut, yet prices remain above $100 from Perpetual Oil Wars. Corporations are offshoring their setaside uninvested income in foreign domiciles and the wealthy find similar ways to escape taxes, even so, the wellspring of tax revenues remains in a failing US middle class, and that is Perot’s ‘Great Sucking Sound’.
The Fed has no one left to sell Treasuries to except the Buyer of Last Resort, the SSTF, which is allowed to ‘purchase’ (sic) ONLY Treasuries, being swapped out still at $50B a MONTH. I believe the SSTF is bankrupt. Declining worker deductions, the only thing keeping the Ponzi scheme going, are being drowned by increasing early retirement boomer payouts.
I believe it’s only a matter of time, perhaps months, before Congress is forced to extend the age of eligibility, force other government expenditures, like ACA, to be paid for out of SSTF benefits, and simply re-index benefits to falling revenues, a perpetual (-)COBA.
Then there will be pitchforks and torches, and Iran, Iraq, Ukraine, MENA, Yinon, will be forgotten and left to MIC and KSA to fund the fun. MIC can’t afford international hegemony AND domestic national police state. That will leave KSA, then they will be overthrown by the Wahhabists. MENA will attack and overrun Israel in one final Armageddon, as Levignor and Bibi stand atop the Wailing Wall, making their last stand against the Arab Hordes, and in the same way, MIC will make their last stand against the Aztecas and Mayan hordes.
To paraphrase ‘Kill Bill’, ‘For what we did, we all deserve to die.’
F*ck HRH HRC.

Posted by: chip nikh | Jul 2 2014 9:30 utc | 59

Problem is Isis was created by the CIA. And I still think this is all a setup to weaken both Iran and Russia. If Russia is involved in a hot war in Ukraine. That makes it lest likely they can defend Syria if Obama tries to attack from Iraq’a back door. No Obama is a snake I don’t trust him at all.

Posted by: Ron | Jul 2 2014 10:40 utc | 60

how ’bout ISIS as a crisis production? the car chase…
…starring ‘dollar collapse’ as the handsome windblown driver.
eat it up, people.

Posted by: john | Jul 2 2014 10:49 utc | 61

The beginning of the end for some rebels who care for their lives. Who will then join?

Syria rebels will ‘lay down arms’ if no aid to fight IS
AFP , Wednesday 2 Jul 2014
Rebels from northern and eastern Syria on Wednesday threatened to lay down their arms in a week if the country’s exiled opposition does not help them fight the jihadist Islamic State (IS).
“We, the leaders of the brigades and battalions… give the National Coalition, the (opposition) interim government, the (rebel) Supreme Military Council and all the leading bodies of the Syrian revolution a week to send reinforcements and complete aid,” the statement said.
“Should our call not be heard, we will lay down our weapons and pull out our fighters,” it added.
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/2/8/105291/World/Region/Syria-rebels-will-lay-down-arms-if-no-aid-to-fight.aspx

Posted by: virgile | Jul 2 2014 11:56 utc | 62

@52 Scalwag
“”And the United States has been pushing this as a camouflage. Many in the West believe the ISIL represents Muslims; it doesn’t represent Muslims or Sunnis at all.”
Of course it does represent, even secretly, a large majority of Sunnis who have seen themselves sidelines by the growth of the Shia power and the inability of their corrupted and apathetic leaders to counter that wave.
The Islamic Caliphate is an exclusive SUNNI military success story, at finally one they can be proud of.
It is certainly short-sighted because the Islamic Caliphate will be crushed and the Sunnis will bear another huge humiliation that may turn them against their inept leaders/
These are the reasons why these inept leaders (Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Turkey) continue to fund ISIS for fear that it either turn against them or fall and provoke a backlash with their own population.
The inevitable fall of the Caliphate will increase and consolidate as much as Saddam Hossein’s fall the power of the Shias in the region.
The US is not worried much about that as they have been mending the ties with Iran that they see, with Turkey, as the real leaders of the region, both politically and economically.

Posted by: virgile | Jul 2 2014 12:11 utc | 63

Iran preparing to vanquish ISIL
After a week-long lull, almost, Tehran has shifted gear in its rhetoric and approach to the crisis in Iraq and Syria. The innuendos and dark hints in the Iranian statements so far have given way to open criticism of the Saudi Arabian backing for the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant [ISIL].
Two prominent members of the Majlis commission on foreign and security policies lashed out at Riyadh — “Saudi Arabia is the spiritual, material and ideological supporter of the ISIL and the Saudi King had tasked the country’s former intelligence chief [Prince Bandar] with a special mission to support the ISIL.” (Mohammad Hassan Asafari).
It is extremely rare that King Abdullah is nailed by name in an Iranian statement. Again, another prominent MP Mohammad Saleh Jokar implicitly warned Riyadh that it is throwing stones from a glass house — “Instead of interfering in Iraq’s affairs and implementing the US plots, Saudi Arabia had better deal with its own internal affairs.” The Iranian line is that the succession struggle in the Saudi royal family is becoming acute.
Significantly, Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei repeated an expression which was coined by Imam Khomeini in the early years of the Iranian revolution to refer to Saudi Arabia as a poodle of the US and a covert accomplice of Israel. Khamenei said while addressing a group of Quran reciters in Teheran on Sunday that there is a difference between “American Islam” and true Islam — “The American Islam, despite having Islamic appearance and name, complies with despotism and Zionism… and totally serves the goals of Zionism and the US.”
http://blogs.rediff.com/mkbhadrakumar/2014/07/01/iran-preparing-to-vanquish-isil/

Posted by: okie farmer | Jul 2 2014 13:40 utc | 64

Ron@59
“Problem is Isis was created by the CIA. And I still think this is all a setup to weaken both Iran and Russia…”
Bhadrakumar has a good blog piece at AToL on this question.
The truth is that Russia (and China) are both gaining immensely from the crisis in Iraq.
Forget the Israel-Kurdistan manouevring, that is old news. As is the plan of splitting Iraq in three. What is important is that Iran is being pushed closer and closer to Russia and the Iraqis, closer and closer to Iran.
It is the same old story: tactically the US is very clever. ISIS is a monster it created. So is Bandar-its real sponsor. And they are causing all sorts of mayhem. But, strategically it is clueless.
When the dust settles the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation will be much stronger than NATO and far better balanced; the Iran, Iraq oil reserves will be in the Shanghai camp making it by far the biggest player in the fossil fuel markets. The US dollar’s life as a reserve currency will be on deathwatch.
And ISIS will be back where it really belongs, fighting for power in what is still called Saudi Arabia.

Posted by: bevin | Jul 2 2014 13:45 utc | 65

bevin, But, strategically it is clueless.
the reason for that is the US has since the end of the Cold War, put their entire foreign policy in one single basket – Militarization. They’re blinded to ANY other approach – ‘who the fuck needs diplomacy’, ‘suck on this’, etc

Posted by: okie farmer | Jul 2 2014 14:01 utc | 66

adding:
Chomsky in tomdispatch today:

The administration of George H.W. Bush issued a new national security policy and defense budget in reaction to the collapse of the Soviet Union. It was pretty much the same as before, although with new pretexts. It was, it turned out, necessary to maintain a military establishment almost as great as the rest of the world combined and far more advanced in technological sophistication — but not for defense against the now-nonexistent Soviet Union. Rather, the excuse now was the growing “technological sophistication” of Third World powers. Disciplined intellectuals understood that it would have been improper to collapse in ridicule, so they maintained a proper silence.

http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/175863/tomgram%3A_noam_chomsky%2C_america%27s_real_foreign_policy/

Posted by: okie farmer | Jul 2 2014 14:13 utc | 67

I’m with Toivos @55 The US are just reacting to events, the one calculus they made years ago still stands, the so called arc of extremism, Hez, Syria and Iran,i.e. the resistance block has to go or be weakened. The problem is how to support the nutcases in Syria and not support them in Iraq, it can’t be done of course without being called hypocritical, but that has not stopped them in the past. Eventually the ordinary people in Syria and Iraq will reject rule by the sword, it remains to be seen if the Sunni tribal chiefs in Iraq will go along with IS, I suspect they will not, and in time a new ‘awakening’ group will emerge to drive the savages back to their caves or preferably [just a thought] Saudi Arabia, along with their nice white adidas trainers.

Posted by: harry law | Jul 2 2014 15:00 utc | 68

@65 I think the problem with a second awakening is the tribal leaders are the ones who brought ISIS in, and over a decade of war does change a 10 year old. The existing leadership will have a difficult time organizing unless they have absolute loyalty, but if it’s based on office or age, ISIS might find supporters and a fought out divided opposition.

Posted by: NotTimothyGeithner | Jul 2 2014 15:44 utc | 69

@66 I’m not sure what these young guys do apart from fight and drive Humvees around.

Posted by: dh | Jul 2 2014 15:52 utc | 70

I guess the Humvees are full of looted Rambo videos.

Posted by: dh | Jul 2 2014 16:12 utc | 71

Strict Sharia loving Sunnis and nikab loving women have now a place where they live their conviction without feeling out of place.
Many Sunnis suffering of discrimination in France and elsewhere in the West are welcome to build the Islamic Caliphate.
Oppressed Jews took refuge in Israel, Shias in Iran, now oppressed Sunnis have their own country: the Islamic Caliphate

Posted by: Virgile | Jul 2 2014 17:18 utc | 72

@65
Harry, either you are British (“nice white adidas [sneakers]”), or there are some nice white (sales reps?) from adidas training the muhajireen in the Islamic State (but willing to relocate to SA).

Posted by: Rusty Pipes | Jul 2 2014 18:41 utc | 73

The problem here is the desperation of empire, given that the ground is slipping from underneath it. The temptation of the Flight Forward strategy–that is– further military aggression in the face of economic calamity, is looming at this moment. We have observed the US president saying that he is not going to take a military option forward, and shortly thereafter, doing just that.
I don’t find bevin’s more cheerful outlook to be very convincing. We are far removed from a more rational world, presided over by the Shanghai Cooperation Organization. The aggression in Ukraine, the ramping up of force by Poroshenko, is contemporaneous with the new phase of aggression in Iraq. And this is not an accident; nor is it an example of blundering or reacting to events. It is more likely to be intentional and calculated, and is being incrementally unpacked as the result of planing, after running computer simulations.
Don’t kid yourself. The story has recently appeared that the whole cache of Snowden documents is to be dumped in July, for the purpose of heading off war. This too may be a bluff; but Washington’s option to use force, to prolong its sorry empire, can include the push for an escalation, and larger war.
When the balance of power is recognized as shifting, it may be the most dangerous time of all.

Posted by: Copeland | Jul 2 2014 20:15 utc | 74

Amen, Copeland.

Posted by: okie farmer | Jul 2 2014 20:34 utc | 75

Copeland: maybe you find this more convincing?
http://www.blackagendareport.com/content/superpower-and-caliphate
“…The Caliphate threatens, not only its immediate adversaries in the Shiite-dominated governments of Syria and Iraq, but the potentates of the Arab Emirates, Qatar, Kuwait and the Mother of All Monarchist Corruption in the Arab Sunni heartland, the Saudi royal family. The threat is not inferential, but literal, against “all emirates, groups, states and organizations” that do not recognize that ISIS in its new incarnation is the embodiment of Islam at war.
The jihadist die is cast, a point of no return for the U.S. strategy of projecting imperial power in the region through armed Islamic fundamentalist surrogates. The international jihadist network, which did not exist before the CIA, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan created it to undermine the leftist secular government of Afghanistan in mid-1979, has become a movement that can no longer be controlled. The physical contours of the ISIS caliphate, the movement’s dynamic new focal point, may prove indefensible, especially if the Americans decide they cannot avoid an all-out assault on their former asset. But, whatever the U.S. military response, the game plan that was hatched in 2011 for Libya, Syria, Iraq – for the whole region – is kaput, based as it is on the reliable deployment of jihadists as surrogates for NATO and Arab royals. Worse, the Arab oil potentates understand full well that their own regimes are now in grave danger from the indigenous monstrosity they have created. The Saudis, in particular, justify their family’s monopolizing of the Arabian peninsula’s great wealth as reward for safeguarding the holy sites of Islam. No doubt the “Islamic State,” with its movable borders and swiftly expanding pan-Arab and even pan-Muslim constituency, would be glad to assume these responsibilities – over the dead bodies of those Saudi princes who did not escape to London, Paris and New York. The same goes for all the royal lineages aligned with the West and, de facto, Israel.
“It is true that the United States retains nearly limitless power to create chaos in the region. Chaos is useful in preventing conventional governments and civil societies from achieving national goals that are inimical to imperialism. But chaos is not empty; it is a cauldron in which contradictions can become explosively acute. The jihadists are, at root, anti-imperialists – inalterably opposed to domination by the “Crusaders” of the West and Zionists. As we have previously asserted, the fundamentalist jihad, although profoundly reactionary, inevitably behaves much like a kind of nationalism – for some, it fills a political void left by the demise of yesteryear’s secular pan-Arab nationalism. ISIS now claims to be the expression of that nationalist-like yearning, as the “Islamic State.”
If you think all this is the work of the CIA, then thank them profusely for accelerating the epic unraveling of U.S. imperial strategy in the Muslim world. As during the days when America’s Egyptian stooge Mubarak was pushed from power, threatening an “Arab Spring” that might depose the oil monarchies, U.S. policymakers have no idea how to reposition themselves in the region. The Americans cannot replace the jihadists as foot soldiers of imperialism. Thus, a period of ad-libbing begins, which will surely involve ostentatious displays of U.S. military prowess, as the Americans remind themselves and everyone else that a superpower outranks a caliphate.

Posted by: bevin | Jul 3 2014 4:04 utc | 76

“When the balance of power is recognized as shifting, it may be the most dangerous time of all.”
Agreed. Forgive me for feeling cheerful as I watch the Empire crumble and the economic system to collapse. Almost everyone in the “west” risks losing much in the way of personal comforts, the dividends of social rentierism. But humanity can only gain from the ending of the European Empire, built on the foundations of the plunder of the “New World”, as it reaches out for complete global domination.
As to the people of the metropolitan west: they were marked down for immisseration next anyway.
(All of the text in @76 is quoted from the BAR piece.)

Posted by: bevin | Jul 3 2014 4:19 utc | 77

@ bevin: I don’t see anything crumble yet, as of now it’s all just too foggy. And I ain’t cheerful either, in terms of “be careful what you wish for”.

Posted by: T2015 | Jul 3 2014 8:28 utc | 78

One question I have had, is, are there any members of the Saudi royals who actually share the goals of the jihadists and would be happy to live under their presumed rule?

Posted by: truthbetold | Jul 3 2014 17:17 utc | 79

@79 I doubt if any Saudi royals are that enthusiastic. But a lot of them are scared stiff and vulnerable to blackmail.

Posted by: dh | Jul 3 2014 17:26 utc | 80

@79 It’s 15,000 strong clan. 5,000 have money. Have you ever tried to order pizza for a group? Of course, there are Saudi clan members who want some of that good ole’ religion, and there are others who love hedonism. The issue is to what extent the 5,000 understand that a religious awakening might not have a place for a clan that has tolerated hedonism. There have always been rich asetics, it’s a sign of being wealthy, but the issue is what the other 10,000 think who represent state jobs and control.
Without the 10,000, the rich hedonists would leave, and the non-Saud religious types might make the calculation that sharing the pie isn’t worth it. Why be a servant to someone without a constituency. The Egyptians and Ottomans wiped out half the Saudi clan in the 19th century. The Saudis remember this and know blood is thicker than water. The religious and non-religous have to play a dance with each other because they could both be exterminated by change. The 10,000 can’t just escape and might fight for the regime, but this is a necessary calculation for the Saudis.
Much of Saudi policy is meant to export hot heads and to prevent a more Marxist philosophy from taking root by pushing religion, but a charismatic Iman who might grab power would solidify control by exterminating the Saudi clan by burning bridges to the old regime. The Soviets didn’t let Anastasia because she was a kid go or let Hitler be cloned in Brazil. The locals know the Ottomans didn’t finish the job and the Sauds came back after building alliances with the UK and the US. I can’t stress this enough, but many Saudis know this. The Ottoman Empire was at its peak when the new Sultan exterminated male family members. The locals know this.
It’s a tight rope act. Not all Sauds understand this either. How do you know who is who?

Posted by: NotTimothyGeithner | Jul 3 2014 20:35 utc | 81

@81
The Saudi King could die any day. And the chances of a real struggle for the succession, with a younger candidate, ready to rule for twenty or more years and to rule energetically too, making a bid for power, are very good.
In any such power struggle having a private army just over the frontier would be very handy.

Posted by: bevin | Jul 4 2014 1:49 utc | 82

Al Qaeda plans to get the attention

REVEALED: Al Qaeda’s dangerous plan to match ISIS

According to security experts, in terms of wealth and fighting skills the Al Qaeda is no match at least today for the ISIS. The Al Qaeda will look to make a come back and it is showing signs of desperation. United States intelligence alerts show attempts by the terror group to bomb airports.
A US-based think tank said, “The Al Qaeda will be looking for a spectacular attack on the lines of 9/11 to regain what it has lost to the ISIS. Moreover, the coffers of the Al Qaeda are drying up and the free flow of funds from Saudi Arabia has stopped following Osama’s death.”
http://www.rediff.com/news/slide-show/slide-show-1-revealed-al-qaedas-dangerous-plan-to-match-isis/20140704.htm

Posted by: Virgile | Jul 4 2014 13:41 utc | 83

@82 Pretty much, most Saudi policy is focused on breathing room for secession. The current generation of leadership has one foot from the home/grave, and they have run the country without raising successors. It’s pretty much the same situation as the USSR. They have some younger cronies, but they really don’t know who is the leader or could take over. The ruling caste doesn’t want to get dumped in the crooked home from night line if the wrong guy from their clan rises. There are no natural 45-50 year olds that we create here ready to r are over.
MB, the Baathists, democratic types all represent early graves or crooked homes for an elite to old to fight back..

Posted by: NotTimothyGeithner | Jul 4 2014 15:42 utc | 84