|
Open Thread 2014-16
News & views other than current issues …
OT
Had an interesting experience RE China, an offer to be a technical (English translation) editor for a Chinese science and technology journal. There was the exchange of credentials, then a ‘Standardized Editing Test’ based on real submitted PhD papers. What a shock after reading the great observations of Chinese scholars like mathematics specialist H.Wu, to see just how terrible the Chinese research paper publication problem is! A new industry!
Sure they have some unique insights on things, especially biochemistry and nano-technology, but they can’t write English to save their lives! They can’t organize sentence structure, scientific lingo, anything to give the ‘technical editor’ a handle on what they’re saying, without completely rewriting the thing. Then, coming from a scientific background, much of what I read was derivative ‘kickstands’, in the Japanese ‘nail sticking up’ mode. They just want that incremental piece of sheepskin, same as any grad student anywhere in the world.
There is 0.00 correlation between genius and PhD status, but a PhD pays better.
Then following that ‘SET-and-awe’, came the H-1B-now-CEO India(n) chief of Microsoft’s announcement of 18,000 layoffs outsourcing to India, when the track record of relocate-to-India(n) software company failures is, once you list them, can only conclude that India is a black hole where all large-scale programming ventures go to die. Microsoft’s ‘code bloat’ and the fiasco with Win7 was entirely on their India branch’s watch. So why else elevate a H-1B-now-CEO India(n) to outsource ‘better, faster, cheaper’ into a black hole?
Which brings us back to USA as a nexus of science and technology, and explains why the USA graduate schools and defense research labs are packed with foreign nationals, but China and Germany end up with the actual technology deployment and manufacturing leadership.
Corp Bottom Line. DOW 30,000. Pump, pump, pump … dump.
Which leads to the excitement on the finance boards about BRIC’s new ‘IMF Light’, and how it’s going to ‘bring down the US$’. Poppy-cock! The BRICs are bankrupt! Their combined debt, Brazil, Russia, India and China, is more than the debt of all other countries on earth, combined, (ex-US/UK/IL, and ‘we can print our way out of debt’).
BRIC will disappear in the midnight of history, all those billions of poor lost souls.
For it’s part, US/UK/IL will follow the Path of Weimar, into a bankrupt fascist police state, then you have to ask, where will the recherché flower of humanity re-bloom?
It will likely spring from the butt cheeks of the New Global Pharaohic Technocracy, in thrall to it, carving little intricate nested jade Buddhas for it, entertaining it with silken silicon selfies, enabling it with pervasive omni-surveillance and domestic weaponry, and turning its vast expanse of Corporate GMO farms into high-tech kibble factories.
Soylent Green, it’s the other white meat!
So you can be like those who ended up in the internment camps and then the ovens, or you can find yourself a little piece of expatriate paradise, grow some turnips and grow old.
Posted by: chip nikh | Jul 18 2014 22:53 utc | 7
I know that it bad form to cross-post on blogs, but the importance of what I would like to express forces to me transgress and beg forgiveness. M
P.S.: Hello to b, b real, Uncle $cam, r’giap, Noirette, annie, debs is dead, et al.
The Madness of Roger Tucker
For some reason, Mr. Saker chose to post a rather reviling fascist screed on his Vineyardsaker blog today, disguised as an “Humanitarian Call to Arms,” and in light of the exposure his blog gets, I thought it essential to expose it before more harm is done.
Quotes from the post “Open Letter to the Conscience of Humanity” on the Vineyardsaker blog:
2. The first task of this commission would be to identify the most culpable of the Zionist criminals still living, not to exceed one thousand people. Millions are guilty but bringing those most responsible for the suffering of the Palestinians, the Lebanese, the Iraqis, the Libyans, the Iranians, the Egyptians, the Syrians et al and the many millions of other direct and indirect victims of the Zionist project, would best serve the cause of justice.
International Law seems a sufficient basis to prosecute people for war crimes. The very concept of International Law is that, by applying the same set of rules to all, one can achieve stable and just relations between states and states, and between states and their inhabitants. But, when you start prosecuting “the most culpable” people for thought crimes and speech crimes you go off the deep end, rejecting all law and justice.
How can anyone defend the rights of so-called “Holocaust Revisionists” like Robert Faurisson, Ernst Zündel, and David Irving to speak (as I and Chomsky do), — speech which is now criminalized in Europe — and deny the right for Zionists. As Chomsky rightly points out, free speech is a protection granted to those you DISAGREE with, not those you agree with — hence it is either for everyone, or just for those who believe as you do, and not free at all.
Again, crimes are crimes, and International Law seems sufficiently robust, if only the international political will were there to prosecute. I am speaking here of crimes like pre-emptive war, invasion of another sovereign state, murder, land and property theft and destruction, use of weapons like depleted uranium, phosphorus, and cluster bombs, etc. There is nothing subjective about culpability with these crimes. I believe international law experts like Francis Boyle, Ramsey Clark, Richard Falk and Richard Goldstone would concur.
“Suffering,” again, like the concept “culpable,” is another vague, subjective term and a slippery legal slope to slide down in “the cause of justice:” My parents caused me much suffering, but I do not see their actions as a crime or cause for prosecution in “the cause of justice.”
3. Those people so identified should be drawn from the various sectors of society that have been primarily responsible for the heinous war crimes and crimes against humanity committed over these years, regardless of their countries of residence, particularly among the politicians, the military, the media, the financiers, the public intellectuals, academics, the religious leaders and the leaders of Zionist organizations. Those found guilty would be sentenced to a minimum of life in solitary confinement without parole.
Again, prosecuting “public intellectuals, academics, the religious leaders” for acts of thought and speech, and labelling those acts as “heinous war crimes” is the hallmark of fascism. This should be obvious. Speech is only truly free if you defend that which you disagree with.
Craven Public Intellectuals deserve to be shamed, debunked, discredited, ridiculed, and shorn of their power, wealth, prestige and authority, but not jailed for life, or worse.
We may deplore the concentration of global media, and the fact that their employees lie shamelessly. The solutions should be obvious: Work to decentralize the media, and work to criminalize legally proveable lies in the press. Work to educate the public in the methods the media uses to deceive, manipulate, foment mob manias, and even to perpetuate “big lies” and “false flags.” But don’t go prosecuting thought and speech as “crimes against humanity.”
Furthermore, solitary confinement, as advocated by Mr. Tucker, IS cruel and inhumane torture, in other words, a “crime against humanity” itself. People go insane rather quickly under those conditions. It is far removed from imprisonment and loss of freedom. I am amazed to see both a Buddhist and a Christian such as Mr. Tucker and Mr. Saker, advocating this for any human being. How can someone who has spoken up against one type of torture — waterboarding — support another type, solitary confinement. If presumed guilt is the sole criterion, then what exactly was the problem with waterboarding again?
By employing the term “minimum,” it is clear that Mr. Tucker does not rule out capital punishment — an almost heretical position for a Buddhist, and one I would be very interested in seeing Mr. Tucker attempt to defend from a Buddhist point of view.
And here’s the clincher, the horror of what Mr. Tucker is really arguing for, revealed:
4. In addition to those specifically indicted, all of those people who have actively provided material, organizational or public support for this genocide should be rounded up and interned in camps designated for this purpose. Given the very large numbers of such people, the so-called FEMA camps in the United States would be suitable for this purpose. An alternative site could be constructed in the Siberian Oblast set aside by the Soviet Union for the Jewish people. An appeals process would be instituted to ensure that only the clearly culpable would remain in these camps. Those adjudged guilty would be consigned to hard labor and re-education designed to eventually make them suitable for re-entry into human society, if that is at all possible.
Ah, so now we are going to round up possibly millions (“Millions are guilty”) of “public supporters” and send them all off to Soviet-style gulags, or “hard labor” re-education camps for “re-education designed to eventually make them suitable for re-entry into human society, if that is at all possible.” And all in the name of “Humanity.” Am I the only one who sees a problem with this? If so, perhaps I have been spending too much time following the wrong bloggers. Is this what Jesus and Buddha would advocate in this situation? Is this what Mr. Saker’s God would advocate?
And what of the millions of others around the world, for instance, Australians who publicly suppported the genocide in East Timor; USAans who publicly supported the genocide in Southeast Asia (Vietnam, Laos, the killing fields of Cambodia), the genocide in Indonesia, the military juntas in South America, the guerrila wars in Central America, the genocide in Iraq, Libya, and Syria; the French who supported the war in Algeria and Libya; the English who supported the war in Sierra Leone, Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya; Turks who still support the Armenian genocide, ISIS in Syria, etc.? And what about all Westerners who supported their nations’ policies throughout Africa, most especially in the CAR, and apartheid in South Africa? After all, humans can be a cruel bunch, and if we are going to send the supporters of one neo-colonial settler war off to the gulag in the name of justice, than surely we should send the supporters of all neo-colonial and other nasty wars off to the same gulags in the name of some greater justice. I fear we will soon have one half of humanity enslaving and re-educating the other half, in the name of humanity.
While I don’t condone any of these events, indeed I actively worked against all of this madness of empire, for some reason I don’t see putting the hundreds of millions of people who actively supported these policies into “re-education” camps as a beneficial policy for humankind. Perhaps I shouldn’t have read “A Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovitch;” yes, perhaps that is the problem I’m having in appreciating Mr. Tucker’s “Modest Proposal.” For we all know what this really means — these gulags: Who decides who needs “re-education;” how do we treat those who are “recalitrant” in their re-education, those who refuse to learn; how long do the infirm and elderly hold up under conditions of “hard labor,” and who gets to decide when an inmate is properly re-educated?
These are only a few of the questions that arise from reading Mr. Tucker’s “Open Letter to the Conscience of Humanity;” I’m quite certain that a few minutes reflection would allow all but the most rabid reader to formulate a few concerns of their own.
Remember, any power we arrogate to ourselves for policies we believe in, may, at some future time, be used by our enemies for policies that they believe in: The table of power may one day be turned, and we will all find ourselves “consigned to hard labor and re-education designed to eventually make (us) suitable for re-entry into human society, if that is at all possible.”
Finally, “set(ting) aside” the “Siberian Oblast” as “an alternative site” for mass relocation is just a little too reminiscent of Golda Meir’s notorious chestnut, “A land without a people for a people without a land.” But I’m sure that the Siberians will be better at understanding the rightness of this solution than the Palestinians are in understanding the rightness of the current dispensation. If not, we can always count on Mr. Tucker and his “Fellow Travelers” to “re-educate” them if necessary.
I understand peoples’ anger and feelings of hopelessness at what the Israelis are doing to the Palestians — the wanton slaughter in cold blood without conscience — I feel the same way. But, I try not to let my emotions drown out my wisdom and compassion. That is why I, like Mr. Tucker, publically advocate for a single-state — non-religious, inclusive, and including the Right of Return — as well as for maximal prosecution of war crimes under international statutes. But unlike Mr. Tucker, I actively oppose criminalizing freedom of speech and thought; employing methods of torture, disguised as justice, on any living being; and the mass internment of humanity for crimethink in concentration camps.
Like, Mr. Tucker, I was brought up under a situation of near complete propaganda. Therefore, like Mr. Tucker, at one point in time I was not as enlightened as I am now in my political views. I am glad that I had the time and freedom to examine my beliefs as I discovered contradictory evidence, and the time and freedom to confront the disturbing cognitive dissonance and change those beliefs on my own. Had Mr. Tucker had his way, I might well have been sent off to a “re-education” gulag, where knowing how ornery and anti-authoriatarian I can be, I might never have changed those prejudiced beliefs, despite the best efforts of the authorities to render me “suitable for re-entry into human society.”
Any spiritual being must leave room for human spiritual growth. We can’t all be born with all of the “right beliefs” — that would leave no room for us to learn about the world and mature in our thinking and compassion. That is why we criminalize actions that hurt others, not despicable ignorant thoughts or puerile hateful speech.
Perhaps, therefore, we cannot make the world 100% just, only more just; and the quest for perfect or total justice quickly becomes a totalitarian nightmare.
Mr. Tucker, oblivious to this level of spiritual insight, appears completely unashamed to have borrowed language directly, almost word for word, from George Orwell’s novel, 1984. And, despite his surface erudition, he seems equally unashamed not to have read or understood Hannah Arendt’s prescient tome, “The Origins of Totalitarianism.”
Something is very strange here. Could Mr. Tucker’s feelings of anger and hopelessness be so clouding his vision that he promotes the same historical injustices, nay, war crimes, that were employed by a previous totalitarian generation as a solution to fascism and war crimes? Is history so ironic, and Mr. Tucker so blind?
In a similar manner as the reverse projection of the Zionist Jews, who, while publicly swearing “Never again,” are perpetuating the same crimes the Nazis employed against them, now against the Palestinians: confining them to concentration camps and then slaughtering them — Mr. Tucker, in the name of justice and humanity, appears quite willing to threaten the same crimes that unjust and inhuman totalitarian states have used on their dissenters: confining them to gulags in the name of “re-education.” Reverse projection, obvious to us, is invisible to its perpetrators.
This is Samantha Power’s meretricious “Responsibility to Protect” raised to another power altogether.
Or is this just evidence of the “Crazy Wisdom” employed by his tantric Buddhist teacher, CHÖGYAM TRUNGPA, a man so depraved, that when we strip off the “Guru Worship,” we are forced to come to grips with his alchoholism, rampant sex with disciples, and sociopathic behavior like the public stripping and humiliation of the poet W. S. Merwin and his wife at a party they didn’t even wish to attend. Acts he claimed were all commited in the name of “Crazy Wisdom.” And yet, his disciples steadfastly defend their guru’s criminal actions. Is Mr. Tucker merely trying to wake us up by his own insanity? Is that his game here?
And what of Mr. Saker, has he too not let his emotions cloud his vision?
Roger Tucker is too bright for these kind of mistakes or oversights. His proposed solutions should fly in the face of his purported Buddhist beliefs. Why does he not define his terms, when vagueness only helps the psychopaths? Is he trying to foment artificial divisions in the resistance? One would hope not.
And one would hope that we can help both of these bloggers see the problems of their short-sighted and uncompassionate line of thinking, in their own way and in their own time, before some well-meaning person or mob takes their ill-considered recommendations to heart and decides they are best sent off to be “re-educated.”
Posted by: Malooga | Jul 29 2014 11:38 utc | 42
Sadly, I caught Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity in an outright deception of past events in Libya.
Here is my response to them:
I certainly agree with the main premise of this article warning President Obama against US actions with Russia. It is surprising that you do not mention the quite substantial risk of nuclear Armageddon, even if accidental — perhaps the single most frightening part of this entire affair.
And it’s clear that we always run the risk of the facts being fixed around the policy, as they historically have been.
But, it’s odd that you would use the case of KAL007 as an example, since there is a sizable percentage of people who neither believe that the aircraft “strayed” accidentally, nor that the shootdown was accidental, as you have described. Were the intercepts ever released and confirmed by the Soviet Union, thus proving your case?
Secondly, even more odd is that you should use the example of the bombing at the La Belle Disco in West Berlin, where you state:
“Intercepted messages between Tripoli and agents in Europe made it clear that Libya was behind the attack. Here’s an excerpt: ‘At 1:30 in the morning one of the acts was carried out with success, without leaving a trace behind.'”
That intercept is both too vague to prove anything, and yet too incriminating for Libya to have broadcast if they were actually involved — and certainly not their style. From a Cui Bono standpoint, Libya’s involvement made, and still makes, no sense.
More to the point, are two pieces of information which directly contradict your assertions about the validity of the intercept — information which points to both the bombing and the intercept being the work of the Mossad.
First, Victor Ostrovsky, the ex-Mossad agent and author of the Mossad exposé “By Way of Deception,” which the Israeli government sought to ban publication of, claimed that the Mossad was responsible for the intercept. According to Richard Curtiss, in a 2001 piece on Media Monitors:
The manner in which Israel’s Mossad tricked the U.S. into attacking Libya was described in detail by former Mossad case worker Victor Ostrovsky in The Other Side of Deception, the second of two revealing books he wrote after he left Israel’s foreign intelligence service. The story began in February 1986, when Israel sent a team of navy commandos in miniature submarines into Tripoli to land and install a “Trojan,” a six-foot-long communications device, in the top floor of a five-story apartment building. The device, only seven inches in diameter, was capable of receiving messages broadcast by Mossad’s LAP (LohAma Psicologit—psychological warfare or disinformation section) on one frequency and automatically relaying the broadcasts on a different frequency used by the Libyan government.
The commandos activated the Trojan and left it in the care of a lone Mossad agent in Tripoli who had leased the apartment and who had met them at the beach in a rented van.“By the end of March, the Americans were already intercepting messages broadcast by the Trojan,” Ostrovsky writes.
“Using the Trojan, the Mossad tried to make it appear that a long series of terrorist orders were being transmitted to various Libyan embassies around the world,” Ostrovsky continues. As the Mossad had hoped, the transmissions were deciphered by the Americans and construed as ample proof that the Libyans were active sponsors of terrorism. What’s more, the Americans pointed out, Mossad reports confirmed it.
“The French and the Spanish, though, were not buying into the new stream of information. To them it seemed suspicious that suddenly, out of the blue, the Libyans, who had been extremely careful in the past, would start advertising their future actions… The French and the Spanish were right. The information was bogus.”
Ostrovsky, who is careful in what he writes, does not blame Mossad for the bombing, only a couple of weeks after the Trojan was installed, of La Belle Discothèque in West Berlin, which cost the lives of two American soldiers and a Turkish woman. But he convincingly documents the elaborate Mossad operation built around the Trojan, which led the U.S. to blame Libya for the bombing of the Berlin nightclub frequented by U.S. soldiers. The plot was given added credibility since it took place at a time when Qaddafi had “closed” the airspace over the Gulf of Sidra to U.S. aircraft, and then suffered the loss of two Libyan aircraft trying to enforce the ban, which were shot down by carrier-based U.S. planes
This information is reiterated by Robin Ramsay in Lobster #60, Winter 2010, p. 118, who clearly feels that the claims are more than credible.
Second, an article from the WSWS website from August of 1998, summarizes a German TV documentary broadcast of the program “Frontal” which arrives at the following conclusions:
1) The lead defendant presently on trial, Yasser Chraidi, is very possibly innocent, and is being used as a scapegoat by German and American intelligence services.
2) At least one of the defendants, Musbah Eter, has been working for the CIA over many years.
3) Some of the key suspects have not appeared in court, because they are being protected by Western intelligence services.
4) At least one of those, Mohammed Amairi, is an agent of Mossad, the Israeli secret service.
Information for this report was corroborated by both the East German and Russian secret services.
The report concludes with this timely admonition:
“These secret service intrigues present a task for the Berlin court that is almost insoluble,” concludes the Frontal report. “But one thing is certain, the American legend of Libyan state terrorism can no longer be maintained.”
There are striking parallels between the 1986 bombing of Libya and last week’s missile strikes against targets in Sudan and Afghanistan. Once again Washington claims to have “proof” to justify its use of deadly force. But as the Frontal report shows, such claims cannot be trusted. Twelve years after the bombing of Libya, Reagan’s proof turns out to be anything but irrefutable. Instead there is powerful evidence that the La Belle attack was a carefully prepared provocation.
There appears to be a pattern of Israel’s Mossad supplying bogus intercepted communications to the US and Europe, as evidenced by the spurious communications intercept appearing to implicate Assad in the use of chemical weapons, later disproven.
Which leaves us with several questions: Was the CIA tricked, even though French and Spanish intelligence wasn’t? Did the CIA know that Libyan “responsibility” was faked, and not tell the President? Or, did Reagan actually know that he was presenting faked evidence to the world? Or did the U.S. government not know that the evidence was fake, and that it was Israel alone who was responsible for this horror?
In light of US intelligence expenditures approximately equaling the rest of the world put together, either of these three possibilities are fairly disconcerting.
In a 2008 Truthout article, Milton Bearden states, “Washington was willing to give up a sensitive intelligence method – its ability to break the Libyan codes. But once the rest of the world absorbed this, international grumbling subsided and many considered the retaliation against Tripoli justified,” almost word for word what you argue.
The question is — how do those nations who “grumbled” now feel knowing that they were lied into a grudging consent? Where exactly is US credibility on the international stage — with other countries seeing this as only one of many instances of the US lying to get what it wants at the expense of the rest of the world?
Which begs the point, how could it be possible that that the esteemed VIPS Steering Group, including one member who prepared the President’s Daily Brief during this period of time, as well as senior CIA veteran Milton Bearden, not know that this sensitive intelligence source, which you claim the President waived secrecy and boldly revealed, was false? And how does the President revealing information which other governments know is false show what you call “a decent respect for the opinions of mankind?”
In light of the history of US lies and criminal attacks on Libya over a span of decades, culminating in the complete destruction of the country which had the highest standard of living in Africa, the assassination of its leader and our Secretary of State publicly gloating to the world about it, the theft of hundreds of billions of dollars from its treasury — actions which completely alienated China and Russia and destroyed the US’s credibility on the world stage –, how do further lies, especially from an “opposition” source which depends upon reputation for effect, help the US? And isn’t pretending to reveal something sensitive, which turns out to be a lie, even more damaging to credibility than a plain vanilla lie?
Not to belabor the point, allow me to explaining just why this issue of credibility is so important. You state:
“If the U.S. has more convincing evidence than what has so far been adduced concerning responsibility for shooting down Flight 17, we believe it would be best to find a way to make that intelligence public – even at the risk of compromising “sources and methods.” Moreover, we suggest you instruct your subordinates not to cheapen U.S. credibility by releasing key information via social media like Twitter and Facebook.
The reputation of the messenger for credibility is also key in this area of “public diplomacy.”
Yes, the reputation of the messenger is key, and with a history of making false intelligence public, while appearing to “compromise ‘sources and methods,’ it is hard to know how any disclosure that could not be independently verified would help.
I’m sure that VIPS is a good group, with its heart in the right place — but, if you want to engender the type of credibility that would move the public debate forward, you simply MUST be accurate with the information in your examples. And if you don’t want to be seen as a “limited hangout,” you must do more than simply encouraging the government to put on a fake show of disclosure, which could only serve to convince your more gullible reading public, and not foreign governments. For the US at this point, in the eyes of the rest of the world, there is no trust without verification.
Posted by: Malooga | Aug 4 2014 12:22 utc | 48
malooga @48 Well spotted, and an excellent retort. Hopefully it will reach the right circles and bear fruit.
I have my doubts though. VIPS is a classic when it comes to half truths and beautifying the past. For example, the author(s) of this VIPS piece state,
[…] As intelligence professionals we are embarrassed by the unprofessional use of partial intelligence information […]
trying to cement amongst the antiwar community the myth that
a, US intelligence pros can be embarrassed by politicians unprofessionally using their intelligence information, as if that wasn’t Washington standard and to be expected by anyone joining the US intelligence mafia
b, the US intel services only have partial information on the downing of MH17. With all the satellites they have available, NATO military exercises in the area on the day it happened, spies in the Ukrainian troops and the SBU, it is fair to assume they know exactly who shot down that plane and how it was done.
There is your limited hangout right there.
Further down, as a lead in to the part where they tell the readers how Reagan misused US intel for falsely demonizing Russia for the shooting of KA007 30 years ago, they write
[…] An advantage of our long tenure as intelligence officers is that we remember what we have witnessed first hand; seldom do we forget key events in which we played an analyst or other role. To put it another way, most of us “know exactly where we were” when a Soviet fighter aircraft shot down Korean Airlines passenger flight 007 over Siberia on August 30, 1983 over 30 years ago. At the time, we were intelligence officers on “active duty.” […]
So, many of those VIPS guys were US intel staffers when to their full knowledge Reagan distorted facts and told outright lies, yet I bet my bottom dollar that none of those guys consequently and immediately resigned. No, they continued their “service” for years, being willingly part of a monstrous disinfo machine, which sadly, they seem to continue to be to this day.
Uncle @49 The fact that torturers are allowed to walk free while the man who made their horrendous acts known is thrown in jail for years would be a disgrace for any nation that had grace, which however the US doesn’t. To be honest, I expected nothing less from a justice system in a country run by terrorists.
And so that MoA’s German readers are under no illusion, their country is an integral part of this multinational terrorist outfit.
German General Takes Key Post in US Army Europe
BERLIN — A German army general has for the first time been appointed chief of staff to work with the commander of US ground forces in Europe, both countries’ militaries said Thursday.
Brig. Gen. Markus Laubenthal will serve as “the right-hand man” to Lt. Gen. Donald Campbell Jr., who commands more than 37,000 US Army Europe (USAREUR) personnel from headquarters in the central city of Wiesbaden, said Germany’s defense ministry.
“This is a bold and major step forward in USAREUR’s commitment to operating in a multinational environment with our German allies,” said Campbell in a statement on Laubenthal’s appointment starting next week. […]
A Bundeswehr spokesperson spoke of a “clear sign of good US/German cooperation” and from my understanding, the German general will now longer be under German command but follow US orders.
Posted by: Juan Moment | Aug 6 2014 0:40 utc | 51
|