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July 10, 2014
Open Thread 2014-15
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Electric Six – Dance Commander Posted by: Paty Kerry | Jul 10 2014 17:56 utc | 1 Jem – They Posted by: Paty Kerry | Jul 10 2014 18:22 utc | 2 I haven’t finished all of it, but I can enthusiastically recommend, based on a reading of the first half, “Surveillance Capitalism: Monopoly-Finance Capital, the Military-Industrial Complex, and the Digital Age,” the feature article by John Bellamy Foster and Bob McChesney in the latest monthly review.
Posted by: Mike Maloney | Jul 10 2014 18:25 utc | 4 Ken Ishii ‘Extra’ Music Video Posted by: Paty Kerry | Jul 10 2014 19:21 utc | 5 About two weeks ago, Merkel and Putin had a meeting in Berlin. Posted by: plantman | Jul 10 2014 19:25 utc | 6 Duran Duran – Girls On Film Posted by: Paty Kerry | Jul 10 2014 19:31 utc | 7 Posted by: Mike Maloney | Jul 10, 2014 2:25:53 PM | 4 Posted by: jo6pac | Jul 10 2014 19:52 utc | 8 Check this Posted by: Paty Kerry | Jul 10 2014 19:55 utc | 9 With the concession that on this site the level of discussion has progressed to far more sophisticated issues, can someone outline to me the reason that the Donbas leaders ignored Putin’s wishes and pressed ahead with the referendums (referenda?). Posted by: chet380 | Jul 10 2014 20:12 utc | 10 chet380 Posted by: Anonymous | Jul 10 2014 20:24 utc | 11 @chet380 #10: Merkel is a complete puppet and a tool. Not only is the media americanized through and through, but there is a special relationship with the only democracy in the ME. Posted by: slirs | Jul 10 2014 20:54 utc | 14 Another good read is Jeffrey St. Clair’s “Field Notes From a Mirage” about a road trip the CounterPunch editor takes with his wife, a librarian at Portland State, to Las Vegas to attend the annual conference of the American Library Association. I am a sucker for this genre of time-present first-person narratives from a public intellectual out and about in the world — discussing suicide at the bar of a sports book on the Strip or talking about the impending ecological disaster of sin city with an engineer on the flight in:
Posted by: Mike Maloney | Jul 10 2014 21:17 utc | 15 Demian says: “Of course Merkel has no “power to pressure Obama to stop the attacks in the East”. But that’s not because of any German oligarchy, but because Germany is occupied by the Empire, and its government bureaucracy, the intelligence agencies and military especially, are infiltrated by people who are essentially American agents, as are the media and private foundations.” Posted by: plantman | Jul 10 2014 21:29 utc | 16 @plantman #16: @6 Posted by: Yul | Jul 10 2014 21:42 utc | 18 Demian: “You asked about something with a near-zero probability: Germany having a significant influence over US foreign policy.” Posted by: plantman | Jul 10 2014 22:00 utc | 19 @plantman #19: for those who missed it, yu may need to stand onm your heads to read this piece where NATO defends its actions viz an viz russia Posted by: brian | Jul 10 2014 23:51 utc | 21 Kurdistan and the Caliphate Posted by: brian | Jul 10 2014 23:53 utc | 22 I saw somewhere?that that estimable broadcaster Diane Sawyer,that paragon of MSM veracity,pointed out Gaza as being Sderot? or some other part of Israel under attack. Posted by: dahoit | Jul 11 2014 0:01 utc | 23 “So long as Germany is part of NATO, it cannot be a sovereign country. For all countries other than the US, membership in NATO is subjugation…” Posted by: bevin | Jul 11 2014 0:21 utc | 24 at the risk of repeating myself, I. Think that Putin needs something that will publicly amplify how reckless and irrational the US has gotten. The ISIS charade provides a good opportunity for that, because whether you think the US is directly funding the jihadis or not, the attacks on Al Maliki appear to be more important to Obama than delivering threats to ISIS. This makes the WOT look like a fraud and makes the US look like a enabler. Posted by: Plantman | Jul 11 2014 0:48 utc | 25 @24 I think it’s a waiting game for Germany and a few others. They want to see what kind of outcome Poroshenko comes up with. The ‘win’ in Slavyansk makes it look like the pro-Russians are finished. With them out of the way they’ll go for Crimea. Then Putin will either fight or they’ll make a deal. Posted by: dh | Jul 11 2014 1:02 utc | 26 A-ha – Hunting High And Low Posted by: Paty Kerry | Jul 11 2014 1:03 utc | 27 The way an info war is conducted is not by the head of state being the main spokesman for the desired narrative. Other means are used to spread that narrative. FWIW, I read a Russian piece today which says that the Russian government is deliberately toning down its rhetoric so that USG thinks Russia is giving up and backing down. This is also to make the Ukie junta overconfident in its “anti-terror operation”. The article also says that USG may by now realize that it has overplayed its hand in the Ukraine, but the Ukies are now in such a frenzy that USG by now couldn’t get them to negotiate even if it wanted to. An interesting point of view. The article was republished in novorus.info, which tends to more often post articles taking the line that Putin is “giving up” Novorossiya. Putin and the rat king, or operation “Mousetrap” (Yandex trans.) Oliver Stone on the Kennedy Administration and the Cold War Posted by: jayc | Jul 11 2014 1:28 utc | 30 I tried three times to reply to Plantman’s last post, the last time even removing a link, and none of those posts went through. Let’s see if this post, which doesn’t mention anything about the topic, goes through, or whether I have been summarily and silently banned. Level 42 Posted by: Paty Kerry | Jul 11 2014 2:00 utc | 33 @25 I’m not sure Putin needs to be confrontational in anyway. Obama and the MIC are becoming weaker at home and abroad. Afterall, Obama is whining about cynics, so I think the last thing Putin wants is a rally around the flag situation in the U.S. I suspect the U.S. is cash poor, the rich are thieves grabbing everything they can, and I think for Obama to pursue an initiative he needs cash which I suspect has been gobbled up already. Why give Congress a reason to give Obama money before the election? Posted by: NotTimothyGeithner | Jul 11 2014 2:02 utc | 34 “If people reflexively and instinctively laid the blame for the continuous litany of war crimes at the feet of the US/Zionists where it deserves to be no one’s feelings/egos would be hurt and – gasp! – we might actually start saving people’s fucking lives.” J.Sorrentino Ofcourse one may question why Hamas are giving the Israelis the excuse to commit these war crimes but the utter despair and horror you and I feel cannot possibly compare with that of the Palestinian victim each of whom have experienced for over sixty years every day every season all the time thousands of random acts of violence and now the serious and criminal use of superior military force crushing peace, destroying normal life utterly utterly. there surely cannot be a moment for rational thought or developed resilience in thousands of households. And how do these people without water or regular good food live their fractured cruel lives at the mercy, at root from innocence, of a tyranny they cannot be responsible for and did not create, while the international laws that forbid this are utterly utterly ignored by all national governments of the world, Is there going to be a movement in history by the conscience of mankind, if we have such a shared resource, that brings the Israel government to the Law Courts? The EU of which we in Ireland are now a colony, refuses to cooperate when thousands of appeals for justice have been made. What event can possibly change this . – we have seen the worst possible events, we know all too well of the constant criminal life that presently floats over and penetrates the entire Middle East – because these Middle East Arabs and Muslims are the victims of insane military acts by far distant western countries who want valuable natural resources……….. does our voice fade away dear friends? What can we do? We cry for the action of International Law because money does not alter the matter. The International Law that Putin, from maligned Russia, was absolutely careful to use and abide by in Ukraine and Crimea , the Law that has been caste aside by both the EU and America and UK. Caste aside dear friends, law that was set up to aid us from the seemingly impervious acts of financial war and military barbarism. We can hardly release our own feelings because we have never been re-assured by either parent or education that feelings have true meanings and have to be carefully explained and respected as were the feelings and knowledge of the originators of International Law who differed not one wit from you and I. Posted by: Jocelyn Braddell | Jul 11 2014 2:07 utc | 35 What does it cost to own the media of a country? How long does it take to acquire same? Is it even possible to counter-bid on the media currently owned by the US? What might be the dangers of such activities? Posted by: Grieved | Jul 11 2014 2:31 utc | 37 The Germany-U.S. estrangement is real. First, the cold shoulder on further Russian sanctions; then Merkel hooking up with Xi in Beijing on the 77th anniversary of the Sino-Japanese War; now the espionage arrests. What more proof do we need? Posted by: Mike Maloney | Jul 11 2014 2:44 utc | 38 @37 Yes…but still Merkel needs to be sure. She can’t go full Ost-politik until Donbass is fully in Poroshenko’s hands. She may have a long wait. Posted by: dh | Jul 11 2014 3:32 utc | 39 @dh #38 Rammstein (“Das Model”) – Domino Posted by: Paty Kerry | Jul 11 2014 5:21 utc | 41 Toto – Africa Posted by: Paty Kerry | Jul 11 2014 5:50 utc | 42 @jocylyn 34,don’t know what to say.idf can shoot “fish in a barrel”(Gaza) with impunity,with heartless arrogant ruthlessness,over and over and over again.does israel understand how hated they (as a nation) are becoming? hubris is a bitch, they will be bitch-slapped. doesn’t bring back the dead tho. All of a sudden, the terrorists have turned into rebels. Posted by: peter radiator | Jul 11 2014 5:52 utc | 44 @peter radiator #43:
I was hoping that was about Novorossiya. Oh well. Just watch this, live from the horse’s mouth – Merkel in Stuttgart last year: Posted by: T2015 | Jul 11 2014 6:21 utc | 46 The recent Facebook experiments are extremely interesting, but are only a tiny, tiny glimpse into the level of manipulation that humanity now faces from those who control such powerful means of communication. That such news would come out only means that others have been at it for many, many years. Posted by: guest77 | Jul 11 2014 6:23 utc | 47 @ Paty, will you please stop posting nonsensical music vidoes? It’s nice that you have a personal taste, but most of us don’t share it and this is not a music forum. It feels like spam. Posted by: T2015 | Jul 11 2014 6:23 utc | 48 1 on 1 with me, i think you shit in your pants 🙂 Posted by: Paty Kerry | Jul 11 2014 6:29 utc | 49 also I am disturbed of so many links to videos (music???) – otherwise this is a very good blog. Kind regards to alle fr Posted by: Atta Troll | Jul 11 2014 6:53 utc | 51 Paul Craig Roberts Posted by: okie farmer | Jul 11 2014 7:41 utc | 52 25 Posted by: Chip Nihk | Jul 11 2014 7:57 utc | 53 Bradrakumar Posted by: okie farmer | Jul 11 2014 8:18 utc | 55 160 best of arnold graundschweiger 🙂 Posted by: Paty Kerry | Jul 11 2014 8:23 utc | 56 You can do something STARTING NOW about the cowardly, murdering, blood stained people in “Israel”. If you do nothing you are ALSO guilty. Posted by: boindub | Jul 11 2014 8:55 utc | 57 Jocelyn Braddell@34, I agree with your heartfelt pleas for states to implement International law and sanction Israel, unfortunately Israel has virtual veto wielding powers at the UNSC thanks to the US and its backing every criminal act Israel does. Also it does not help that Abbas has disgracefully made a commitment to the US not to pursue Israel through the ICC, this is separate from Abbas’ reluctance to move on the issue, Abbas recently told [I think it was the NYT] “I don’t like to go to the courts. I don’t like courts. I want to solve my problems directly between the parties”. Abbas was threatened by an Israeli General several years ago,revealed in that Wikileaks communication http://wikileaks.org/cable/2010/02/10TELAVIV417.html to the effect that if the Palestinians used the ICC, Israel would regard that as an act of war, they also told the US to put pressure on Abbas. So who knows what nefarious dealings are going on behind the scenes. Posted by: harry law | Jul 11 2014 9:02 utc | 58 I think I have a new formula for stupidity – the number of caps is inversely proported to the IQ. Posted by: T2015 | Jul 11 2014 9:23 utc | 59 boindub, Posted by: ralphieboy | Jul 11 2014 9:56 utc | 60 This ‘the Americans made us do it’ routine from the Germans is … beneath them. Posted by: john francis lee | Jul 11 2014 11:32 utc | 61 You mean nazis on dinosaurs maybe? Or which Germans? Those with over 300 american and british bases and some 100000 foreign soldiers on the ground? Posted by: T2015 | Jul 11 2014 12:01 utc | 62 Babi panggang Posted by: Paty Kerry | Jul 11 2014 13:05 utc | 63 37;Just the fact that Hamas,the last Palestinian resistance to the Zionists exists,is enough provocation to these monsters. Posted by: dahoit | Jul 11 2014 13:09 utc | 64 they New York TImes, on Friday Jul 11 2014 wrote: Posted by: rackstraw | Jul 11 2014 13:10 utc | 65 Todd Terje – Inspector Norse (Official Music Video) Posted by: Paty Kerry | Jul 11 2014 13:10 utc | 66 Todd Terje – Ragysh [Video] Posted by: Paty Kerry | Jul 11 2014 13:24 utc | 67 Come play some BF4 i’m Zenocolo 🙂 Posted by: Paty Kerry | Jul 11 2014 14:01 utc | 69 Seems to be some kind of troll-detection-test? None of its posts is without a link. Posted by: peter radiator | Jul 11 2014 14:07 utc | 70 An excellent warning from Fareed Zakaria
Posted by: Virgile | Jul 11 2014 17:50 utc | 75 Obama found his moderates : The Talibans
Posted by: Virgile | Jul 11 2014 18:06 utc | 76 Does Merkel have the power to pressure Obama to stop the attacks in the East or is she so dependent on the corporate-banking oligarchy that she is no more free than the puppet Obama??? Posted by: Noirette | Jul 11 2014 18:10 utc | 77 Summer Sundance Mix 2014 by Dr. Black Posted by: Paty Kerry | Jul 11 2014 18:42 utc | 78 @ Noirette: “Btw, the argument that the PTB want to keep the Donbass because it is the rich part of the country is most dubious.” Posted by: T2015 | Jul 11 2014 18:55 utc | 79 George carlin 2005 full Posted by: Paty Kerry | Jul 11 2014 19:38 utc | 80 Biggest Pyramid in the world is in Bosnia, Europe. Posted by: Paty Kerry | Jul 12 2014 4:13 utc | 81 Obama, the Muslim president:
Being proud of how you personally manage America’s kill list doesn’t sound like practicing Christianity. It is more like engaging in jihad. @ Paty Kerry Posted by: crone | Jul 12 2014 15:03 utc | 83 Obama’s ratings in the Muslim world have been lower than Bush’s on average. Posted by: truthbetold | Jul 12 2014 16:54 utc | 84 At 80, 82. History (boring details for some..) Posted by: Noirette | Jul 12 2014 17:57 utc | 85 crone @81 Posted by: bevin | Jul 12 2014 18:29 utc | 86 crone: my apologies. I have just reviewed the thread above: you have a point! Posted by: bevin | Jul 12 2014 18:33 utc | 87 you/re fine bevin… I think I counted 20 links, little much. Posted by: crone | Jul 12 2014 18:54 utc | 88 ditto others asking paty kerry to cease and desist.. i love music, but i will not open a music link on this site as it is not what i come here for.. stop the nonsense paty.. thanks. Posted by: james | Jul 12 2014 18:55 utc | 89 The rescued baby in Syria rubbles was a boy and the event happened 1 month ago.
Posted by: Virgile | Jul 13 2014 0:03 utc | 90 via zerohedge Posted by: crone | Jul 13 2014 2:12 utc | 91 @crone #90: @ 91 Posted by: crone | Jul 13 2014 3:21 utc | 93 In Memory of Michael C. Ruppert – Full Interview – “Zeitgeist: Moving Forward” by Peter Joseph Posted by: Paty Kerry | Jul 13 2014 21:01 utc | 94 Fareed Zacharia on CNN: “Radical Islamists have been the core of the opposition to the Assad regime from the very beginning decades ago.” Posted by: Virgile | Jul 14 2014 16:11 utc | 95 http://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-finally-speaks-his-mind/ Posted by: Taiwan-hand | Jul 15 2014 3:27 utc | 96 @crone #93: UN Human Rights Council, and law professor Richard Falk, is under fire from the usual suspects for expressing skepticism about the official 9/11 story. This is what Falk had to say about 9/11 on his blog: Posted by: crone | Jul 15 2014 14:57 utc | 98 @ 98 Posted by: crone | Jul 15 2014 15:00 utc | 99 THE ROVING EYE Posted by: crone | Jul 15 2014 16:00 utc | 100 |
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