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July 28, 2014

NBCNews Buries Its Own Journalist's Eyes, Modifies Gaza Story

About an hour ago I copied a piece from NBCNEWS to later use it as part of a (different) blogpost. It was headlined: Strikes Near Gaza's Shifa Hospital, Refugee Camp Kill or Hurt 30 (emphasis added)

Israeli strikes hit within yards of Gaza's main hospital as well as at a refugee camp on Monday, leaving at least 30 dead and wounded.

The explosion near Shifa Hospital around 5 p.m. local time (10 a.m. ET) caused some damage to the outpatient clinic, according to witnesses including an NBC News crew on the ground in the area. There was no immediate confirmation of deaths or injuries.

Another strike occurred at the Al-Shati refugee camp in northern Gaza. At least 30 dead and wounded were brought to Shifa Hospital in ambulances, civilian cars and on motorcycles. A NBC News team in the area said the strikes were in "close succession."

The Israel Defense Forces told Haaretz that a “preliminary investigation has found the Israeli army did not fire at the Shifa Hospital, and the fire is believed to have been Hamas.” The IDF could not immediately be reached to clarify that account on Monday. However, a NBC News journalist witnessed the attack on the hospital and said it had been fired by an Israeli drone.

The piece now, under the same URL and headline (link above) reads:

Missiles or rockets struck within yards of Gaza's main hospital and a nearby refugee camp Monday, leaving at least 30 dead and wounded.

The Israeli military denied reports its forces were responsible for the strikes, saying they were the result of rockets misfired by Palestinian militants.

The explosion near Shifa Hospital around 5 p.m. local time (10 a.m. ET) caused some damage to the outpatient clinic, according to witnesses including an NBC News crew on the ground in the area. There was no immediate confirmation of deaths or injuries.

Another strike occurred at the Al-Shati refugee camp in northern Gaza. A Palestinian health official says at least 10 people, including children, were killed in Monday's strikes. An NBC News team in the area said the strikes were in "close succession."

The Israel Defense Forces said in a statement that failed rocket launches were to blame.

"A short while ago Al-Shifa hospital was struck by a failed rocket attack launched by Gaza terror organizations. A barrage of three rockets that were aimed towards Israel, struck the hospital. At the time of the incident there was no Israeli military activity in the area surrounding the hospital whatsoever. "

Early reports from the ground said an Israeli drone was responsible for the attack.

An Israeli strike, witnessed by an NBC journalist as being fired by a drone, turns into anonymous "missiles or rockets" in the second variant of the piece. This after the IDF came up with some of its typical "they did it" stories.

The NBC journalist who witnessed the drone turns into anonymous "early reports from the ground".

There is no correction remark attached to the story.

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Posted by: Oui | Jul 28 2014 17:08 utc | 2

it's a war of propaganda first and foremost... this is why saying "a NBC News journalist witnessed the attack on the hospital and said it had been fired by an Israeli drone" has to change to "A short while ago Al-Shifa hospital was struck by a failed rocket attack launched by Gaza terror organizations."

that seems simple enough... i hope they didn't release the NBC journalists name as he/she will be toast!

Posted by: james | Jul 28 2014 17:30 utc | 3

@3 Yes that journalist will be in trouble. But the amazing thing is that an editor let some real news slip through.

Posted by: dh | Jul 28 2014 17:47 utc | 4

The only believable reporting done by Western media are sports scores and stock quotations, which are objective and easily verified. For all other reporting, I assume the opposite is true and go from there. The Outlaw Zionist State has committed numerous war crimes throughout its history, and those of yesterday, today and tomorrow only add to the total. In a sane, just world, the "leaders" of the Outlaw Empires--Obama, Netanyahoo, and Cameron would all be arrested, their Terroristic policies halted, tried for their crimes, and imprisoned for the rest of their lives.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 28 2014 17:50 utc | 5

The Greek site Failed Evolution has an interesting take (in English) on the unimaginable horrors unfolding in Gaza -- that the Palestinians are being used to test cutting-edge technology for population control.

Of course, propaganda is the most powerful tool for keeping societies in line, and the limits of propaganda are obviously being tested too.

Apparently Homo insapiens can be led to believe anything. And if not, technology can take out any mutants that resist.

Interesting post also in that it accuses the German arms business of playing a big role in all this. I have never heard this before, and of course have no way on knowing if any of it is true.

http://failedevolution.blogspot.gr

Posted by: Ken Nari | Jul 28 2014 18:01 utc | 6

I keep Google News open on a window of my browser as I sit and toil at my desk, and what I have noticed today is that regardless of the news service no one is attributing the hospital attack to the IDF. It is all "blasts" or "explosions" without an agent or originator as if the Palestinians are blowing themselves up or are spontaneously exploding. I imagine this will continue to be the case as Israel ratchets up its genocidal onslaught. Going forward attacks will no longer be attributed to the IDF. This is another example of the mainstream media actively colluding in war crimes.

Posted by: Mike Maloney | Jul 28 2014 18:10 utc | 7

#3 James, surely in involves much propaganda, but primarily? Not for those caught in the onslaught.

#4 dh The reporter was Ayman Mohyeldin, who was already once removed from Gaza and returned.

Posted by: Robert Schwartz | Jul 28 2014 18:18 utc | 8

@7 Thanks Robert. I see Ayman was born in Egypt and has a Palestinian mother. Prime target for a drone attack I reckon.

Posted by: dh | Jul 28 2014 18:27 utc | 9

USAToday
Death toll rises on both sides of Gaza conflict
(then scroll way down the page)
...More than 1,000 Palestinians have died in the conflict, the Palestinian Health Ministry says. The IDF says 46 Israelis had died, including 43 soldiers, through Sunday.

46-43=3

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jul 28 2014 18:36 utc | 10

Don Bacon

Your post show who the terrorists are!

Posted by: Anonymous | Jul 28 2014 18:41 utc | 11

I'm REALLY sick and tired of 'Der Spiegel' censoring my comments about this subject!
I must've sent at least a hundred comments on this subject, and the Krouts are censoring them! I'm sorry to say - I always liked the Germans, but NOW I feel that what my grandfather did for the resistance in WWII - is now on me to do!
God, I'm a pacifist!
But I wouldn't mind hitting a German right about now, because of the Spiegel!!!
(none of my German friends though)

Posted by: Partisan Grandson | Jul 28 2014 18:46 utc | 12

what I have noticed today is that regardless of the news service no one is attributing the hospital attack to the IDF. It is all "blasts" or "explosions" without an agent or originator as if the Palestinians are blowing themselves up or are spontaneously exploding.

Every "western" MSM seems to be doing it - Guardian, BBC even the pathetic Irish Times etc

It's as if there is some central location co-ordinating them all, and telling them which line to push - since Saturday I noticed that ALL of them have started claiming that events which are clearly Zio-Nazi attacks have been reduced to mere "blasts" or "explosions" without any culprit being identified, even tentatively

But "you crazy conspiracy theorist!!" the "coincidence theorists" tell me - "it's a 'corporate media' not a 'Zionist controlled media'" - yeah . . .right

Posted by: Priceless | Jul 28 2014 18:50 utc | 13

NBC is run by pigs. On the day of 9/11 they had the audacity to suppress the main motive for the attack when the nightly news hour came time to air. Andrea Mitchell made damn sure she didn't say "Israel" even though her repot featured the very man, Abdel-Bari Atwan, who this Reuters newswire cites on that morning:
"Expert: Bin Laden Warned of 'Unprecedented' Attack
(Reuters) Sep 11, 11:19 AM ET

Saudi dissident Osama bin Laden warned three weeks ago that he and his followers would carry out an unprecedented attack on U.S. interests for its support of Israel, an Arab journalist with access to him said Tuesday.

Abdel-Bari Atwan, editor of the London-based al-Quds al-Arabi, an Arabic-language weekly news magazine, said Islamic fundamentalists led by bin Laden were "almost certainly" behind the attack of the World Trade Center in New York."

and the pattern of suppression of the motive played a role in planting the seeds of the "9/11 Truth Movement": See the 9/11 misdirection away from "WHY" and to "HOW"
http://representativepress.blogspot.com/2013/09/the-911-misdirection-away-from-why-and.html
In the above link you can see for example how Dan Rather and Andrea Mitchell made sure not to say the word "Israel.
Just to show you that reading from that newswire was a physically possible, here is Tom Brokaw actually reading it once: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HR0wiJ-bHeQ 
And if you don't think that slipped through in the heat of the moment, keep in mind the very same Tom Brokaw not only never said it again, a few years later when asked for a question he would ask a world leader, Brokaw decided that even though bin Laden wasn't a world leader, he wanted to ask him a question and the question he asked was why he attacked on 9/11! So the above link was most certainly a slip and Brokaw has removed the motive from his own mind I guess in order to deal with his role in the suppression. I think it must weigh on him subconsciously because it is odd he asked that question of bin Laden when bin Laden wasn't even a world leader.

Posted by: Tom Murphy | Jul 28 2014 18:55 utc | 14

Sorry, Spiegel doesn't seem to be as bad as The Guardian...
They've CENSORED EVERY SINGLE COMMENT I'VE MADE ABOUT ISRAELI ATROCITIES IN GAZA!!!
And I've been a member on the Guardian forum for ten years! Never before have I witnessed such a censorship! Seems things are turning for the worse...lot lot worse!

Posted by: Partisan Grandson | Jul 28 2014 18:55 utc | 15

But I wouldn't mind hitting a German right about now, because of the Spiegel!!!
(none of my German friends though)

Posted by: Partisan Grandson | Jul 28, 2014 2:46:33 PM | 11

Punch a Jewish Zio-Nazi instead - they are the real culprits after all

Owner = Axel Springer AG which has as part of it's corporate governance a statement that says:

[S]upport the vital rights of the State of Israel [and] support the Transatlantic Alliance

See: http://www.moonofalabama.org/2006/02/racist_propagan.html

AND :

"[S]upport for the State of Israel" is actually written into the contract of EVERY one of the presstitutes working for Axel Springer AG

Posted by: Priceless | Jul 28 2014 18:59 utc | 16

NBC News changed the article once again with account of its original?

Strikes Near Gaza's Shifa Hospital, Refugee Camp Kill at Least 10   By Ayman Mohyeldin, Paul Ziad Nassar and Alexander Smith

(NBC News) – Hamas later text messaged a statement to journalists, blaming the IDF — and alleged they had proof of Israeli responsibility.

"The story being put forth by the 'Occupation' that resistance rockets fell in Shifa Hospital and at the Children's Park in the Al-Shati Refugee camp is a failed attempt to escape from this crime and its fears that this crime will be exposed and held judicially accountable," said Hamas spokesman Sami Abu Zuhri.

"In addition, Israeli shrapnel has been collected as evidence from these scenes," the message from Zuhri said.

Twitter feed Ayman Mohyeldin @AymanM

Hamas' Spokesman Sami Abu Zuhri Israeli
killing of Palestinian children is a "result of
the silence of the international community"

Early reports from the ground had said an Israeli drone appeared responsible for the attack.

Posted by: Oui | Jul 28 2014 19:03 utc | 17

@7 Robert Schwartz.. okay let me re-phrase it.. 99% propaganda and 1% useful info.. thanks for the additional information.

Posted by: james | Jul 28 2014 19:09 utc | 18

Fehler - Statuscode 1 - Backoffice-Fehler: 1014

This is what I get when I try to post a comment at 'Der Spiegel International' now.
That's my reward for trying to question their narrative about Israel/Gaza and Ukraine/Russia.
Guess, I should wear it with pride?

:)

Posted by: Partisan Grandson | Jul 28 2014 19:09 utc | 19

clear yer cookies & restart your router -

Posted by: Priceless | Jul 28 2014 19:10 utc | 20

ps robert - i am not talking about the many real people who are suffering or dying thru this, but to what are referred to as 'news outlets' which are in fact 'propaganda outlets' especially when it comes to a number of topics, israel in particular..

Posted by: james | Jul 28 2014 19:11 utc | 21

Perhaps there will be more reporting of NBC editing story IDF strike …

NBC News quietly alters article blaming Israel   By Aaron Klein

TEL AVIV – After first squarely blaming Israel for a strike on the Gaza Strip’s main hospital Monday, NBC News now has altered the headline and content of an online article to temper Israel’s alleged involvement without informing readers it made any changes to the piece.

Earlier today, the opening sentence of the NBC News story read: “Israeli strikes hit within yards of Gaza’s main hospital as well as at a refugee camp on Monday, leaving at least 30 dead and wounded.”

The lead sentence stated as fact that Israel was behind the strikes.

Still some sources of original article cached memory …

BayouBuzz: Dozens Hurt: Israel Strikes Refugee Camp, Near Gaza Hospital - [headline only as link is to NBC]

Indeed attributed to hero journalist Ayman Mohyeldin.

Los Angeles Times also changed headline to accommodate Israel and the IDF forces in Gaza hospital attack.

Posted by: Oui | Jul 28 2014 19:31 utc | 22

#20 James - I understood. My comment was only that it is easy for us here in safety to say it is a war of information or ideas, and it is to an extent in the media, but it is also a real shooting war as well, with real blood spilled and lives destroyed. And it is that, first and foremost, to those in Gaza.

Peace.

Posted by: Robert Schwartz | Jul 28 2014 19:37 utc | 23

The authoritative guide to the various aspects of journalistic malfeasance which brings us continual war is Norman Solomon's "War Made Easy." Reporters must be loyal government stenographers or they aren't reporters any longer.

Dan Rather, an iconic US journalist: "Look I'm an American. I never tried to kid anybody that I'm some internationalist or something. And when my country is at war, I want my country to win, whatever the definition of 'win' might be. Now, I can't and don't argue that that is coverage without prejudice. About that I am prejudiced." So Dan brought us through the criminal war against Vietnam and the Nixon presidency. -- from Norman Solomon's "War Made Easy" -- How Presidents and Pundits Keep Spinning Us to Death.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jul 28 2014 19:39 utc | 24

clear yer cookies & restart your router

You're assuming that I'll visit their site again...not bound to happen

Posted by: Partisan Grandson | Jul 28 2014 19:47 utc | 25

  • "There is quite an incredible spread of relationships. You don’t need to manipulate Time magazine, for example, because there are [Central Intelligence] Agency people at the management level."

    --William B. Bader, former CIA intelligence officer, briefing members of the Senate Intelligence Committee, The CIA and the Media, by Carl Bernstein

  • "The Agency's relationship with [The New York] Times was by far its most valuable among newspapers, according to CIA officials. [It was] general Times policy ... to provide assistance to the CIA whenever possible."

    --The CIA and the Media, by Carl Bernstein


in the UK. Jon Snow (Mark Regev's favourite Channel 4 news reader) was offered a tax free salary if he would work for MI5 (become their agent). He refused.

Jon Snow believes that others in the media have been made the same offer and accepted.

Without doubt the media is controlled. From local press to national press, to the major TV news companies.

Posted by: Priceless | Jul 28 2014 19:52 utc | 26


“Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed: everything else is public relations.”
George Orwell

Posted by: Priceless | Jul 28 2014 20:03 utc | 27

@ 25

"Jon Snow believes that others in the media have been made the same offer and accepted."

umm, Operation Paperclip? (remember that?)

Then there's this:

"There is a standard script for how to deal with Palestinian casualties. After Israel killed four boys on the Gaza beach on July 16th, the US establishment media fell in line behind Israel’s PR framework: acknowledge the tragedy but blame Hamas. This is exactly what Israeli spokesperson Mark Regev said on Channel 4 News when grilled by the anchor Jon Snow. It is also how the US State Department spokesperson Jen Psaki responded using the same word-for-word talking points.

This framework, developed in 2009, can be found in The Israel Project’s 2009 Global Language Dictionary. The Orwellian manual provides a detailed outline on how to “communicate effectively in support of Israel.”

One of its first instructions is that pro-Israeli propagandists need to show empathy. The manual insists that they should “show empathy for BOTH sides” (caps in original) as a way of gaining credibility and trust. To make sure that the point is understood, the manual repeats again (in bold and underlined this time) the instruction “use Empathy”—the suggestion being that empathy is an important tool to be used in the propaganda war.

When innocent Palestinian children and women are killed, the first response should be to show empathy; the next is to reframe the issue stating that Israel is not to blame and that it is only defending itself and further that it only wants peace. Even when it is raining death and destruction on Palestinians, the manual is clear: “Remind people—again and again—that Israel wants peace.”

h/t Mondoweiss

In July of 2009 Newsweek published the Israel Project's "2009 Global Language Dictionary" that includes, on page 62, "The Best Settlement Argument," containing the claim, Why should peace require the ethnic cleansing of Jews from the West Bank?

here's link to Israel's script for western media and spokespersons, including of course, US President, members of Congress, etc., etc.

Seems Israel has USG, UK & possibly France by the gonads.

Posted by: crone | Jul 28 2014 20:10 utc | 28

oops, at 27... that's assuming they have any...

Posted by: crone | Jul 28 2014 20:10 utc | 29

@ 27

forgot the link - http://www.docstoc.com/docs/8303274/The-Israel-Projects-2009-Global-Language-Dictionary

Posted by: crone | Jul 28 2014 20:11 utc | 30

Seems [Jewish Zionists] has USG, UK & possibly France by the gonads.

Oh definitely France, not "possibly"

and Germany, Canadia, Netherlands also

Posted by: Priceless | Jul 28 2014 20:14 utc | 31

@ 27 --- having a senior moment (or day, depending on how much longer it lasts!)

I clearly misstated - not operation paper clip - but operation MOCKINGBIRD...

Posted by: crone | Jul 28 2014 20:15 utc | 32

http://xymphora.blogspot.com/2014/07/errant-media.html

    NBC actually got caught red-handed in assisting the IDF by attempting to blind-side an UNWRA spokesman with this kind of Israeli propaganda:  "The Shame of David Gregory--and 'NYT'" (Mitchell).  Tweet (Chris Gunness):
    "NBC asked me live 2 comment on video I couldn't see & then issued a correction 2 question with a false allegation RT"

    I suppose I don't need to point out that these latest massacres have nothing whatsoever to do with the Hamas tunnels that Bibi claims he is after.  This is genocide/collective punishment/sadism/the essential Evil of the Khazars, take your pick.


Posted by: Priceless | Jul 28 2014 20:49 utc | 33

@Mike Maloney #6:

as if the Palestinians are blowing themselves up

The standard answer of the Ukrofascists to reports that they have killed civilians is that the rebels did it. It began with the burning alive of people in the Trade Union building in Odessa (the people set themselves on fire by accident), then with aerial bombardment of civilians in Lugansk (that was from a rocket fired by the rebels that turned around and followed the heat emitted by an air conditioner). Now the Ukrofascists are saying that rebels are shelling buildings in areas they control in order to get more people to join their cause.

The sad part is that many Ukies watching Ukie TV seem to believe this. And it all fits into the standard Western media narrative: each side blames the other, so to be "objective", the media has to say that who did it can't be determined.

Posted by: Demian | Jul 28 2014 20:53 utc | 34

Sometimes, Demian, there are moments of truthfulness in the Western press when it comes to the Kiev's crimes. I know last week when Donetsk was getting shelled, the NYT reporter on the ground, Sabrina Tavernise, would dutifully repeat the junta's denial that it was killing civilians but then add that clearly the shells were coming from Ukrainian military positions.

Reporters know not to do this with Israel. It would mean, as Don Bacon once said, a trip to the unemployment line.

Posted by: Mike Maloney | Jul 28 2014 21:06 utc | 35

http://www.leninology.co.uk/2014/07/eyewitness-report-on-banned-barbes.html


"I have been asked if I heard anti-Semitic slogans. I saw many protestors walking behind the banner “Jews and Arabs United for Peace” which is the only one I saw at Gare du Nord and then at Barbès. There might have been another with the NPA at the front on the way to Chateau Rouge.

I heard nothing anti-Semitic, neither in the main demo nor in the confrontations with the police. Nor did I hear anything of the sort in the protests on the previous Saturday.

The “eye-witness accounts” that have been making the rounds concerning the demonstration on Saturday 13 July derive from an article written that afternoon which reported slogans that were not started from the organizer’s vans and were not taken up by any group. Some of these are completely foul and were not referenced anywhere except by people who read this “eye-witness account” and pretended to hear what the article suggested they heard. A video “documentary” called “Demonstration of Hate” superimposed the sub-titles “Jews murderers” or “one Jew all Jews are terrorists” when the demonstrators were shouting “Zionists, Fascists, It’s you who are the Terrorists”. Paradoxically, the subtitles show that the slogans were never shouted: they were invented. . . . . . . .

. . . . . I read an article in Le Monde Juif that reported on things launched by “Jewish flunkies” at the CRS on July 19 at the same time as rocks, or from which crushes of people. I didn’t hear anything like that during either of the two demos, but I have no reason to doubt Eric Hazan’s reporting (Hazan is a journalist).

There is a more measured article in terms of tone than in its title is called “Anti-Israel Protest: Anti-Jewish Hatred of the Protestors; Selected Excerpts.” The text specifically references Le MondeJuif.info and specifies that, while it is not accusing all protestors of being anti-Jewish, very few among them had the courage to stand up to the unacceptable.

Beneath the article on Le Monde Juif’s site, you can read the following comments (edited independently of the will of the editors, with the original spelling). The absolute irony of the situation, and the courage in standing up to the unacceptable!

Karen dit : 20 juillet 2014 à 15 h 15 min We proud Zionists will crush pieces of shit like you like rats. We’ll call Tsahal to count your dead one by one. AM ISRAEL, HATED

MICHEL ATTIAS dit : 20 juillet 2014 à 16 h 00 min Bunch of miserable, rotten niggers, stupider than sheep. ISRAEL WILL TERRORIZE YOU AND FUCK YOU EVERY DAY. 250 DEAD AND WE ARE NOT FINISHED. 250,000 DEAD IS NOT ENOUGH, YOU MUST BE EXTERMINATED YOU ARE THE CANCER OF THE PLANET.
ISRAEL FOR EVER THE STRONGEST
AMEN."

Posted by: Priceless | Jul 28 2014 21:08 utc | 36

Posted by: Oui | Jul 28, 2014 1:03:43 PM | 1

dony refer to israeli scum as 'scum'....real scum are offended!

Posted by: brian | Jul 28 2014 22:12 utc | 37

The sad part is that many Ukies watching Ukie TV seem to believe this. And it all fits into the standard Western media narrative: each side blames the other, so to be "objective", the media has to say that who did it can't be determined.

Posted by: Demian | Jul 28, 2014 4:53:54 PM | 33


most people believe what the professional (one of the perks of being a pro!) media tell them, which is why the media has to be carefully controlled...none more so then the 'free press'

Posted by: brian | Jul 28 2014 22:14 utc | 38

what we can do is make this sort of blatant censorship and suport for genocide viral! the nore they do it the more it spreads....like syphilis!

Posted by: brian | Jul 28 2014 22:17 utc | 39

Posted by: Priceless | Jul 28, 2014 5:08:03 PM | 35

people and Lenin need to realise that arabs are semites...many 'jews' are not

Posted by: brian | Jul 28 2014 22:58 utc | 40

brian @39

I've posited for years that the Israelites are the most rabidly anti-Semitic people on the planet as shown by their actions and words. Indeed, the Zionist act of stealing Palestine goes against the edict of Yahweh, their God, and their own Holy Book--proof enough that Zionists are NOT Jewish or Semites.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 28 2014 23:11 utc | 41

Brian, you are a true master at the game of "completely missing the point"

The point was to contrast the constant dishonest jewish claims of "hate filled chanting of Anti-S slogans" by protesters, with their own actual behaviour, of which the 2 comments at the end of the piece are a good example.

Posted by: Priceless | Jul 28 2014 23:52 utc | 42

Gaza updates| Hospitals are targets again

http://www.arabworld360.info/2014/07/gaza-updates-hospitals-are-targets-again.html

Posted by: M. Tomazy | Jul 29 2014 0:05 utc | 43

@40

Zionism is essentially a secular fascist racist ideology, that merely uses biblical stories as propaganda

Its not a religious based movement at all -few if any of the earlier zionists were actually religious.

Zionist beliefs about "assimilated" jews were indistinguishable from Nazi beliefs about "assimilated" jews

Posted by: Priceless | Jul 29 2014 0:13 utc | 44

The LA Times - a Zionist rag if there ever was one - just called them "explosions".

Meanwhile, George Soros - certainly on the top of the list of the first to go when the revolution comes - pukes up propaganda on Fareed Zakaria's shit show, turning everything you know on its head: The Nazis in the Ukraine are in the East (not the West), Putin's speeches are full of references to Russian superiority (not Obama's), etc, etc...

Elizabeth Warren disappoints completely (reminiscent of JSorrentine's point from a few days ago).

And the Israeli media seem more concerned about one owl than hundreds of murdered children.

Posted by: guest77 | Jul 29 2014 0:56 utc | 45

Jewish Voice for Peace and the Institute for Middle East Understanding have released a powerful new video featuring celebrities, artists, activists and everyday people speaking out for Palestinian human rights. The video features people holding signs with the names and ages of Palestinian civilians recently killed by the Israeli military in Gaza. Some of the notable people pictured include Chuck D, Jonathan Demme, Gloria Steinem, Wallace Shawn, Tony Kushner, Mira Nair, Roger Waters, Brian Eno, and many others. In a press release to accompany the video playwright Eve Ensler says, “This is a scream on paper. This is a wail. “There are no more words. Only this moment where we rise against the illegal and deathly occupation of Palestine, against mass slaughter of the defenseless, against the complicit silence of the international community, against the military might and arrogance of the Israeli and the U.S. governments who choose annihilation over justice and love.” Continue reading

Posted by: crone | Jul 29 2014 1:46 utc | 46

The ridiculous CNN feature of former AIPAC lobbyist Wolf Blitzer in the "terror tunnels" is as flat-assed ridiculous as Geraldo exploring Al Capone's fucking vault. The entirety of the state-corporate media in the USA! USA! USA!, has made the seamless transition into Idiocracy.

Jesus Fucking Christ it is embarrassing to be an American these days.

Posted by: Donn Marten | Jul 29 2014 1:51 utc | 47

1.7% in the US - lower % in Canada and GB

How was control of the media obtained? How is it maintained?

Posted by: chet380 | Jul 29 2014 1:55 utc | 48

Just a couple of points about this issue which flares up at every conflict.

If you imagine that the media is robinson crusoe when it comes to having assholes double dip their paycheck (collect one from their official employer and another from an intelligence agency) then you are sadly misinformed.
This shit has been going on for ever- remember when englander double agent Harold (Kim) Philby was finally outed, the english sacked him as a sop to the CIA who wanted him fried for treason. Then the old boys network' which looks after public school oxbridge boys much better than the mason's wildest dreams kicked in. Kim may be a traitor but he's one of 'our' traitors was the general sentiment; so MI6 SIS or whatever you want to call that habitat of low-life sheet-sniffing stickybeak scum, lent on the London Times to hire Philby as their ME correspondent.

That media shit has been going on for years but so has intelligence penetration of communications.
Way back mid-last century I when I was bored with studying I got a gig with the national phone company and bugger me dead if Intelligence weren't hanging around there like spare pricks at a wedding.

First time I was working on compliance tests for a cable running into a CBD multi-storey monstrosity and the testing set off an alarm in the Intelligence organisation that unbeknownst to citizens occupied the top two floors of the building.
Suddenly the mega boss comes racing into the tiny office that my workstation was crammed into, pushed me off the desk and took over the testing himself.

Afterwards he was pretty apologetic and muttered something about national security. Other times I caught a couple of engineers placing illegal wiretaps on the lines of people who were slightly famous for resisting the status quo - not in any violent or desperate way either.

Yeah yeah I've posted about this before, the reason I reckon it is good to normalise this stuff is that it is helping the zionist genocide if we all disappear up our own assholes in anger & distraction about it.

Baiting the opposition into anger is an old ploy but it works.

We should spread the details of the most recent censorship 'out there' where those who are as yet not signed up to full realisation of zionist control of the ME news agenda hang out, then move on to the horror of this latest series of atrocities.

Otherwise the media experts among the war crims will start their 'conspiracy theory - antisemite' bulldust yet again.

More and more people are accept that Israel are butchering civilians and the global media is complicit in the killing and maiming.

Zionist control of news media is well past its peak and yeah it still needs to be highlighted when it is as egregious as the hospital war crime failed cover up, but ensuring that more citizens understand that the ceasefire garbage israel is hiding behind is actually an about destroying Palestinian institutions is the real challenge.

Over the next week the line netanyahoo & co are really gonna run with is "if these terrorists really cared about dead children they would agree to Ban Ki Moon's ceasefire proposal".

Shift the argument to that & people stop considering the horror, they jump into 'pin the tail on the scapegoat'

Every effort has to be made explaining to the less ME aware humans that the israel 'deal' isn't a peace treaty, it is a demand for total and permanent Palestinian capitulation.

Posted by: Debs is dead | Jul 29 2014 2:00 utc | 49

Billmon is right, this is a dark time for America. We're complicit. There is no mass organized political force to resist empire, colonialism, zionism and militarism.

I have no idea if there ever will be an accounting for Israeli's masters of war. I seriously doubt there will ever be one for the USA's. (1)

— billmon (@billmon1) July 28, 2014

But have no doubt the future--assuming there is one--will look back at us all with revulsion & contempt for our complicity. (2)

— billmon (@billmon1) July 28, 2014

And the phrase "good American" and "good Israeli" will have become as infamous as "good German" is today. (3)

— billmon (@billmon1) July 28, 2014

Posted by: ess emm | Jul 29 2014 2:30 utc | 50

@ess emm #49:

All the Germans had to do to start getting rid of their "good German" rep is to not be complicit in the war crimes of Israel and Kiev. That the Germans have not left NATO shows that they have not changed all that much from their Nazi days.

The cover of the current issue of Der Spiegel reads "STOPPT PUTIN JETZT!" To make that proclamation even more effective, instead of all caps, they should have used Gothic lettering.

Posted by: Demian | Jul 29 2014 2:42 utc | 51

Thanks for support ...
Welcome Back!

Tikun Olam @richards1052 • 58 min

Though @facebook re-opened my acct,
it still hasn't acknowledged fraud involved
in persuading them to close it. Utter opacity
of FB.

Posted by: Oui | Jul 29 2014 2:43 utc | 52

Real axis of evil in westerm world since WWII: U.S. - Britain - France - Australia and Israel with Canada teetering on the edge of support. Trying to maintain the white bastion, at least with racist undertones.

No surprise really as the world is run by the intelligence community, 5 eyes anyone?

Posted by: Oui | Jul 29 2014 2:44 utc | 53

Israel has just shrunk Gaza by forty percent as seen here.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jul 29 2014 2:44 utc | 54

This is outrageous. The warpigs are going to obliterate everything in the zone. It's cruel, violent ethnic cleansing---and US approved.

Posted by: ess emm | Jul 29 2014 2:45 utc | 55

The peace will come.
But only if and when Israel is destroyed.
Peace will come...

Posted by: Anonimous | Jul 29 2014 3:08 utc | 56

peace will come. But only if and when Israel is destroyed

Let's be precise. The problem is militaristic, colonial, political Zionism. A pluralistic Israel, with no exceptionalist claims, can bring peace.

Posted by: ess emm | Jul 29 2014 3:21 utc | 57

Billmon says... billmon!

How hard has that man worked to haze others (Americans) into voting for the very politicians who applaud and fund what's happening in Gaza this very day? The only thing billion should be doing is apologizing profusely in deep shame whilst spending the rest of his days in total silence.

F*** Billmon

Posted by: Eureka Springs | Jul 29 2014 3:33 utc | 58

@56

"A pluralistic Israel, with no exceptionalist claims, can bring peace."
For sure! A non-zionist Israel!
Why I didn't think of it before?

Posted by: Anonimous | Jul 29 2014 3:51 utc | 59

B., My extremely well informed, trenchant, witty, invaluable comments keep disappearing.

Have the forces of evil somehow compromised your site? Are they trying to drive away your most loyal readers?

Was ist los?

Posted by: Ken Nari | Jul 29 2014 4:12 utc | 60

B, I keep trying, and my comments with the link get posted, but then disappear.

Are links to that particular Greek site banned?

Posted by: Ken Nari | Jul 29 2014 5:00 utc | 61

Eureka Springs @ 57

From time to time we all get fooled, we all get conned.

Posted by: Ken Nari | Jul 29 2014 5:12 utc | 62

@57,

Satire?

Posted by: biklett | Jul 29 2014 5:50 utc | 63

"We are looking at the beginning of a Holocaust...Never before since the Holocaust, have we seen such a situation as today,” he said, referring to the continent-wide demonstrations by pro-Palestinian activists, a number of which have degenerated into violence and many of which have featured racist rhetoric. “We are potentially looking at the beginning of another Holocaust now." Vladmir Sloutski, Jewish Congress President, quoted in Jerusalem Post 7/28/14

Posted by: Doc | Jul 29 2014 6:57 utc | 64

It must chap Bibi's lily-white blue-blood Turkic backside that here Gob Bless America has been wantonly slaughtering 100,000s of innocent civilians in other sovereign nations (who took no aggressive posture towards America), ever since 1990 when the Berlin Wall came down a year before that, and the MIC-Nazis in WADC-NOVA converted 'SinoPhobia' into a TRILLION A YEAR 'IslamoPhobia' perpetual war without missing a heartbeat.

Now Clin-Bush-Bama is gayly slaughtering both Sinos and Islamos by the legions, but Israel can't take care of a little cockroach infestation, without Christian Bible-Thumpers coming all unglued? Where is the justice in that? Where were the Bible Thumpers as Iraq was turned into a Shekinah graveyard? Where were the Bible-Thumpers as Afghanistan was turned into an industrial meat-grinder? Sep11 was Saudis/Egyptians, not Iraqis, not Afghans, not Libyans!

What's an Ashkenazim Son of Jonah gotta do to get some 'peace and quiet', (and get their hands on a TRILLION cubic feet of natural gas in Gazan territorial waters just offshore)?
How did Israeli natural gas get into Gazan water, anyway? It never showed on any map. Gaza is an imaginary place on a dirty cocktail napkin invented by drunk US leftists during the Gulf War. The Middle East has always been Judean land ... until the cockroaches overran it.

Burn the teepees, slaughter the buffalo, these concentration camp uprisings gotta stop!!

Posted by: ChipNikh | Jul 29 2014 7:44 utc | 65

#64, drinking again?

Posted by: Doc | Jul 29 2014 8:10 utc | 66

A tweet by Tikun Olam about the massacre in Shuja'iyya neighborhood. A day after the massacre, many Palestinians came to search for their relatives and their families in the rubble. In one of the videos uploaded to YouTube, a young Palestinian man Salem Shammaly ...

Coverage in The New York Times, and for once an excellent article Palestinian Family Finds Missing Son in YouTube Video of His Shooting.

War Crimes by Moral Desolate IDF Soldiers of Golani Brigade.

Posted by: Oui | Jul 29 2014 9:36 utc | 67

An illustration how well state propaganda works. Exactly why U.S. soldiers died in Vietnam, I was a kid but an what older Polish immigrant neighbour sent his only son to Vietnam to fight the commies over there. He gave his life for his father's revenge.

In following article, David Siegel from the Consulate General of Israel in Los Angeles stated: "… to really defend the civilized world against the threat of Islamic terrorism."

Americans from Texas, California killed in Gaza

Carmeli, 21, a sergeant, was from South Padre Island, Texas, said Maya Kadosh, deputy consul general of Israel to the Southwest. He had moved to Israel four years ago and joined the Israeli army after finishing high school there. He was also part of the Golani Brigade, said Rabbi Asher Hecht of Chabad of the Rio Grande Valley.

"He had great energy, yet had a kind and gentle soul," Hecht said. "We lost a gem."


Stuart Steinberg, whose family lives in the San Fernando Valley in California, said his son was a sharpshooter for the Golani Brigade. He was living in Beersheba, Israel, and had attended Pierce College and El Camino Real High School in California.

He visited Israel for the first time on a Birthright Israel trip [a must read] with his younger brother and sister in June 2012, his father said. When he returned, he told his family that he was planning to return and join the Israel Defense Forces.

Posted by: Oui | Jul 29 2014 9:50 utc | 68

karlof1 @ #5The only believable reporting done by Western media are sports scores and stock quotations.

james @ #1799% propaganda and 1% useful info..

The freedom of the Western "free press" extends far beyond sports and stock, and thus most of what is printed is useful and truthful. Generally speaking any statement that is falsifiable by the average Joe from the street tends to be true. The area of lies and falsehoods corresponds exactly to what is of geopolitical significance. In these topics Western media is 100% lies.

Why would the Western audience accept 100% lies? This is how: It is only 30% new lies. The other 70% is regurgitated old lies from the Cold War and Nazi Germany.

Note, that propaganda is not a synonym of lies. This blog is a perfect example of propaganda for truth. In media everything is propaganda. Sports scores and stock quotations are propaganda for capitalism and Western consumerist lifestyle.

***

This is what I wrote a few days ago on the usefulness of sources at on the "Community portal" page of our research wiki A Closer Look on Syria (ACLOS)

Use primary sources

ACLOS, Wikipedia and Wikispooks differ by their epistemological principals:

Wikipedia uses "reliable secondary sources" and rejects primary sources. Evidence has shown that on geopolitical issues, "reliability" in Wikipedia terms correlates inversely with the facts and what primary sources tell. This can be objectively demonstrated by observing the asymptotic divergence of narratives by two geopolitical camps from each other and from primary sources – they never converge!

Wikispooks accepts secondary sources, but ranks them by their distance to "power." The closer they are to "Powers that Be", the more unreliable they are considered to be.

ACLOS relies only on primary sources. Secondary sources are utilized only as much as primary sources can be extracted from them – or where the information provided is non-controversial.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Jul 29 2014 10:18 utc | 69

Gaza | Updated Statistics
http://www.arabworld360.info/2014/07/updated-statistics-gazaunderattack-gaza.html

Posted by: M. Tomazy | Jul 29 2014 10:44 utc | 70

67

That has little to do with state propaganda, and a lot to do with the inbuilt sense of racist superiority posessed by nearly all people that identify as jewish

Posted by: Priceless | Jul 29 2014 10:54 utc | 71

Israel will never negotiate in good faith, and always gets a pass for whatever action it wishes to take. It is time for the UN to act against Israel's policy of apartheid, instead of just offering meaningless words. It is time for the US to stop all aid to Israel, and work to free the Palestinians from their prison camp.

Posted by: Cynthia | Jul 29 2014 11:48 utc | 72

@68
'. This blog is a perfect example of propaganda for truth. In media everything is propaganda. Sports scores and stock quotations are propaganda for capitalism and Western consumerist lifestyle.'

propaganda has no positive use in english, so this statement is wrong.

if you said a news report on a mugging was propaganda, or a fashion show, youd be questioned on your education in english

Posted by: brian | Jul 29 2014 12:19 utc | 73

propaganda has no positive use in english, so this statement is wrong.

f you said a news report on a mugging was propaganda, or a fashion show, youd be questioned on your education in english

Posted by: brian | Jul 29, 2014 8:19:39 AM | 72

If i were you brian, i'd actually take the time to understand the various definitions of that word BEFORE making statements like the ones above

Most of the definitions of "propaganda" include something similar to the following: "info designed to HELP or HINDER"

I.e: negative OR positive info

Propaganda denotes some sort of bias, but bias can be positive or negative

Posted by: Priceless | Jul 29 2014 12:54 utc | 74

11 israeli lies about Gaza
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/mehdi-hasan/gaza-israel_b_5624401.html

Posted by: Anonymous | Jul 29 2014 13:15 utc | 75

something never to be seen in western media - from the Times of Isreal

Jews DO control the media
http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/jews-do-control-the-media/

-But the funny part is when any anti-Semite or anti-Israel person starts to spout stuff like, “The Jews control the media!” and “The Jews control Washington!”
Suddenly we’re up in arms. We create huge campaigns to take these people down. We do what we can to put them out of work. We publish articles. We’ve created entire organizations that exist just to tell everyone that the Jews don’t control nothin’. No, we don’t control the media, we don’t have any more sway in DC than anyone else. No, no, no, we swear: We’re just like everybody else!
Does anyone else (who’s not a bigot) see the irony of this?

-Let’s be honest with ourselves, here, fellow Jews. We do control the media. We’ve got so many dudes up in the executive offices in all the big movie production companies it’s almost obscene. Just about every movie or TV show, whether it be “Tropic Thunder” or “Curb Your Enthusiasm,” is rife with actors, directors, and writers who are Jewish. Did you know that all eight major film studios are run by Jews?
But that’s not all. We also control the ads that go on those TV shows.

-And let’s not forget AIPAC, every anti-Semite’s favorite punching bag. We’re talking an organization that’s practically the equivalent of the Elders of Zion.

-But that’s a far call from saying that we run Hollywood and Madison Avenue. That the Mel Gibsons of the world are right in saying we’re deliberately using our power to take over the world. That we’ve got some crazy conspiracy going down.
Okay. Fine. So some of that is kooky talk.

-The truth is, the anti-Semites got it right. We Jews have something planted in each one of us that makes us completely different from every group in the world. We’re talking about a group of people that just got put in death camps, endured pogroms, their whole families decimated. And then they came to America, the one place that ever really let them have as much power as they wanted, and suddenly they’re taking over. Please don’t tell me that any other group in the world has ever done that. Only the Jews. And we’ve done it before. That’s why the Jews were enslaved in Egypt. We were too successful. Go look at the Torah — it’s right there. And we did it in Germany too.

Posted by: pantaraxia | Jul 29 2014 15:07 utc | 76

#5;You forgot yesterdays weather,in your list of correct reports.
The MSM have turned the Israeli page into more Putin bashing,as they obscure the absolute depravity of their co-ideologues.

Posted by: dahoit | Jul 29 2014 15:54 utc | 77

@76

yeah . . . .

And then they came to America, the one place that ever really let them have as much power as they wanted, and suddenly they’re taking over. Please don’t tell me that any other group in the world has ever done that. Only the Jews

There's that inbuilt sense of racist superiority posessed by nearly all people that identify as jewish, that I mentioned earlier.

Posted by: Priceless | Jul 29 2014 16:17 utc | 78

@77 Surprised they haven't taken over the weather channels too. Putin-shaped storm clouds over Ukraine. Smoke over Gaza. Good day to watch air strikes.

Posted by: dh | Jul 29 2014 16:47 utc | 79

Israel has detained 15-year-old American boy for 26 days; US is ‘gravely concerned’

On July 3, American Tariq Abu Khdeir, 15, was brutally beaten and arrested by Israeli police during a protest in occupied East Jerusalem.

Well it turns out he was not the only American arrested that day in occupied Shuafat. At the State Department briefing yesterday, State’s Jen Psaki says our government is “gravely concerned” about Mohamed Abu Nie’s detention for 26 days. The boy is an alleged rock-thrower and leader of protests, his family has been prevented from visiting him more than once, and there are reports “out there that he’s been beaten.”

more at link

Posted by: crone | Jul 29 2014 16:59 utc | 80

What the media is missing in Gaza is real genocide, an attempt to wipe out a population from the face of the earth.
There is no doubt that posterity will view the attack on Gaza for what it is- an unprecedented, furious display of racism enabled by the United States, which supplies the firepower, and wholly consonant with the zionist exterminationism which has been at the core of north American history since the Seventeenth Century.
Israel, which would be literally incapable either of carrying out attacks such as this and would not dare to create such deep and enduring hatred among muslims and Arabs, without the full support of the United States, is signing its death warrant in Gaza.
The Israeli people caught up in hysterical lynch mob violence and blinded by the racism of imagined superiority as much as the racism of hatred, have now committed themselves irrevocably; there can be no more sentimental linking of the terrible things that have happened to Jews in the past with crude rationalisations for the establishment of this colonial state. The present outweighs the past. The guilt for what is being done at this moment is inescapable and it cries out for punishment.

It is not Jews who control the media but Zionists. And Zionism has always been a Christian project.
The Zionism in Israel is entirely derived from the theory and practice of the Puritan leadership of English settlers in New England. Which is to say that, with the very marginal exception of the Hebrew origins of the language of the King James version of the Old Testament, modern Zionism is not only modelled on the long tradition, from Atlantic to Pacific, of American exceptionalist and racist apologies for the plunder of land and resources, but is wholly dependent upon the support the US gives it to carry out its genocide.
And this support from the US is rooted in the tradition, which is exactly as old as the English settlements in north America, of Zionism. Israel is the United States’s ‘mini-me’, part mascot, part warning to the world, an exact and unreconstructed replica of the darkest aspects of the American past.
The world, and right now Ukraine, should be aware that the United States, through Israel, is saying that it regrets nothing that its ancestors ever did. It does not regret slavery, it does not regret genocide, it does not regret segregation and Jim Crow, it does not regret the Concentration camps for Japanese Americans and it has no regrets in the Black Hills or Central America. In Gaza the United States is showing the world that power gives it the right to mow down children in their hundreds, reduce large tracts of land to rubble and that it intends to do so in the future as it has done in the past and its pet is doing now.

Posted by: bevin | Jul 29 2014 17:26 utc | 81

And Zionism has always been a Christian project.

Seriously?

You're actually gonna run with that, yeah?


So we cannot even blame Jewish Zionists for their own actions now, according to Canada's leading Pseudo-intellectual.

So according to this site premier fake-lefty Jewish Zionist Racial Supremacism if the fault of someone else?

LOL

You really think you're fooling anyone with that crap?

Like a good little fake, here you are stating that everyone else is to blame for Jewish Racial Supremacism -

That's a REAL Tel Aviv propaganda-line right there: blame anyone but the perpetrators themselves

Posted by: Priceless | Jul 29 2014 17:46 utc | 82

Like I said before about one of your fellow "Coincidence/Incompetence Theorists"

"You cannot buy that sort of cluelessness - it has to develop naturally."

You can't learn that sort of mendacious dishonest thinking: you have to be born that way

Posted by: Priceless | Jul 29 2014 17:48 utc | 83

The Zionism in Israel is entirely derived from the theory and practice of the Puritan leadership of English settlers in New England.

Mendacious bullshit

Neither Herzl, Ben Gurion, Meir, Jabotinsky nor Begin were products of societies where "American Exceptionalism" not the King James Bible held sway

You really couldn't be more ridiculous if you tried

Posted by: Priceless | Jul 29 2014 18:00 utc | 84

Do a little research foff...

http://www.balfourproject.org/the-road-to-balfour-the-history-of-christian-zionism-by-stephen-sizer/

Posted by: dh | Jul 29 2014 18:02 utc | 85

In one of his talks, Slavoj Zizek mentions that in Munich in the 1930s over 60% of journalists and 75% of lawyers were Jewish. (or vice versa)

Does this sound familiar? NYC?

It would be interesting to know the respective percentage for bankers and financiers, as well as media moguls.

Posted by: pantaraxia | Jul 29 2014 18:09 utc | 86

Do your own research, Mr Most-boring-man-on-the-planet

The idea of Jewish "Chosenness" existed LONG before anyone heard of Christianity, Britain or the US

It's amazing how ridiculous you lot are

US Christian Zionism is the product of a collaboration between Jewish Zionist Samuel Untermeyer and convicted criminal conman Cyrus Scofield

Posted by: Priceless | Jul 29 2014 18:13 utc | 87

When it comes to the notion of Exceptionalism, the Protestant Fundamentalists merely borrowed the already existing bullshit embedded in the (Jewish) Old Testament

The Old Testament is merely a slightly edited version of the Jewish TANAKH

The Tanakh is the canon of the Hebrew Bible.

Blaming the existence of a philosophy of "Jewish Racial Supremacism" on someone else is the epitome of "Chutzpah"

Like I said before: You can't learn that sort of mendacious dishonest thinking: you have to be born that way

Posted by: Priceless | Jul 29 2014 18:20 utc | 88

From CNN this morning (I don't watch TV, a poster on another forum does, and here is his comment)

Uh- oh.

‘Spike missile’ used to murder 4 babes playing football on beach– it has a camera in its nose so they can see who/what they are targeting (from Bill Van Esveld, HRW on CNN).

He goes on to start to dispel the allegations wrt ‘human shields use by Hamas”.

(big plumes of smoke over Gaza, perhaps 2,000 lb bombs acc. to Penhaul)

from wiki:

“Spike is a fire-and-forget missile with lock-on before launch and automatic self-guidance. The missile is equipped with an imaging infrared seeker.

The medium, long and extended range versions of the Spike also have the capability of “Fire, Observe and Update” operating mode. The missile is connected by a fiber-optical wire that is spooled out between the launch position and the missile. With this the operator can obtain a target if it is not in the line of sight of the operator at launch, switch targets in flight, or compensate for the movement of the target if the missile is not tracking the target for some reason. Hence, the missile can be fired speculatively for a target of opportunity, or to provide observation on the other side of an obstacle. The missile has a soft launch capability – the motor firing after the missile has left the launcher- which allows for the missile to be fired from confined spaces, which is a necessity in urban warfare.”

Posted by: crone | Jul 29 2014 18:41 utc | 89

Addition to 87

The link given by dh makes absolutely NO mention of Samuel Untermeyer nor Cyrus Scofield

It's not possible to talk honestly and knowledgeably about Jewish Zionism and US Christian Zionism WITHOUT mentioning Untermeyer and Scofield

I note that dh's ridiculous link is also written by some guy called Stephen Sizer

So here we have a Sizer proposing a whole theory of christian guilt for a Jewish Supremacist philosophy, without so much as one mention of two of the major figures in the creation of modern US Christian Zionism.

I guess mentioning Untermeyer and Scofield would have shown his theory to be the bullshit it so clearly is, so Sizer left it out - because there's no way anyone could do any research into this subject and NOT find out about the collaboration between the Jewish Zionist, and Wall St banker, Samuel Untermeryer and convicted fraudster Cyrus Scofield

That's not research - that's just a collection of half-connected bullshit cobbled together into a theory plausible enough to fool idiots.

And fool some idiots it certainly did, as we can see above

Posted by: Priceless | Jul 29 2014 18:44 utc | 90

@ 82, 83, 87, 88 and 90
Priceless-another day another name.
And still the same mixture of juvenile abuse and racist assertion.
The people paying you ought to register as a charity catering to the mentally deficient.

Posted by: bevin | Jul 29 2014 18:58 utc | 91

as stated earlier

"You cannot buy your sort of cluelessness/dishonesty - it has to develop naturally."

Posted by: Priceless | Jul 29 2014 19:02 utc | 92

Google - gaza gas israel and it will all come into focus.

Posted by: really | Jul 29 2014 19:04 utc | 93

Google - gaza gas israel and it will all come into focus.

Posted by: really | Jul 29, 2014 3:04:17 PM | 93

Jewish Zio-Nazi intentions to ethnically cleanse the existing Palestinian population were made clear long before anyone knew there was any Gas to be had from Gaza

Yosef Weitz, a prominent Zio-Nazi and vocal advocate of Ethnic Cleansing, wrote in 1941:

"The land of Israel is not small at all, if only the Arabs were removed [Ethnically Cleansed], and its frontiers enlarged a little, . . [Obviously he is talking about Military expansion and Ethnic Cleansing once again] to the north up to the Litani [River] [in Lebanon - clearly French Mandate Territory, NOT British Mandate, so not covered under the "Balfour Declaration"], and to the east including the Golan Heights . . . . . . with the Arabs [Ethnically Cleansed] to northern Syria and Iraq .. . . . . . We will not live here with Arabs."

Israel Zangwill, a prominent early Zionist, who had visited Palestine in 1897 and clearly was aware of the demographics there, stated:

"Palestine proper has already its inhabitants. The pashalik of Jerusalem is already twice as thickly populated as the United States, having fifty-two souls to the square mile, and not 25% of them Jews ... [We] must be prepared either to drive out by the sword the [Arab] tribes in possession as our forefathers did or to grapple with the problem of a large alien population" [Zangwill is of course being utterly dishonest here - the pre-existing local inhabitants were clearly NOT an "alien" population in Palestine]

Another prominent Zioinst called Hahman Syrkin, who was a founder of "Socialist" Zionism, published in 1898 "The Jewish Question and the Socialist Jewish State" [completely oxymoronic title]. He stated:

"Palestine thinly populated, in which the Jews constituted today 10 percent of the population, must be evacuated for the Jews."

In October 1882, Validimir Dubnow, one of the earliest Zionist pioneers in Palestine, wrote to his brother articulating the ultimate goals of the Zionist movement:

"The ultimate goal ... is, in time, to take over the Land of Israel and to restore to the Jews the political independence they have been deprived of for these two thousand years ... The Jews will yet arise and, arms in hand (if need be), declare that they are the masters of their ancient homeland."

Also in 1882 Ben-Yehuda and Yehiel Michal Pines, two of the earliest Zionist pioneers in Palestine, wrote describing the indigenous Palestinians:

"... There are now only five hundred [thousand] Arabs, who are not very strong, and from whom we shall easily take away the country if only we do it through stratagems [and] without drawing upon us their hostility before we become the strong and populous ones."


Posted by: Priceless | Jul 29 2014 19:18 utc | 94

The Holy Family Latin Church in Gaza has just received an evacuation order warning them that Israei is planning to bomb their neighbourhood tonight. In a message, a priest writes: " The church of Gaza has received an order to evacuate.. they will bomb the Zeitun area and the people are already fleeing. The problem is that the priest Fr George and the three nuns of Mother Teresa have 29 handicapped children and nine old ladies who can't move. http://www.indcatholicnews.com/news.php?viewStory=25263

And they are killing Doctors and Researchers - @Belalmd12, a Palestinian doctor on Twitter, has just reported that the IDF killed Dr. Bashir al-Hajjar, who held 3 PhDs in the health sciences (nursing and mental health counseling). http://humanizepalestine.com/2014/07/29/in-memory-bashir-al-hajjar/

Now I have gotten to the point where I can't say/think the word Israel without wanting to spit. The world is silent, the world is complicit. They are destroying any sensibilities we have left.

Posted by: TikTok | Jul 29 2014 19:26 utc | 95

The idea that Priceless and his employers won't countenance is that what is happening in Gaza is caused not by some exotic theory devised by a faction of Jews but the logical result of an imperial polity, European in origin and American in terms of its primary location, which has dominated the globe for about four hundred years.

From the time that this empire passed from the hands of the Iberians into those of the Dutch and the English it has had a zionist colouration. Anyone who studies the history of New England or, I suspect, the Afrikaaner Boers, understands this.

Of course, as I note in my post, the language and imagery of the Bible is involved but the choice of Biblical texts, homing in on those justifying racial war and extermination, is not coincidental. They fitted the needs of the colonists and of imperialism in the metropoli.

But the foundation of the Empire and the zionism whose disciples founded Harvard and Yale involved, for reasons evident to anyone with the slightest knowledge of early modern Europe, very few Jews.
Jews came late to political zionism, in the C19th, long after New England had been established and, for example, William Blake had written Jerusalem, and the Mormons had invented a zion of their own. And when they came to zionism they did so as conscious imperialists, colonists aping the British. Most of them were not religious people, fixated on the Bible, but practical colonizers to whom ancient texts were convenient tools in propaganda.

It is a long and complex story but the important thing is that zionism and fascism are both aspects of imperial ideology in an era of decline. Israel in Gaza is not a uniquely evil, outlandish force but the face of modern imperialism. Its fascist government is not a curious relic of the days of Mussolini and Hitler- nor is the Right Sektor in Ukraine, they are both aspects of a dramatic turn back towards repression and violence by the imperial ruling class which has lost faith in its ability to manipulate public opinion as it did in the post war period of western prosperity and economic growth.

The ruling class feel the tremors of an approaching social earthquake, as living standards plunge and the gap between rich and poor grows into a gulf of unprecedented width. Hence their surveillance systems, hence the militarisation of policing, hence the continuous outpouring of hate propaganda, hence the rash of wars widening into general regional conflagrations, bound soon to explode into ever widening conflicts.

Hence too, least of all in importance but very much a part of the general rottenness of a system driving towards Armageddon, the internet troll, with the constantly shifting identity, charged with the task of diverting discussion of imperialist strategy back into the channel which the ruling class prefers, namely away from discussions of imperialism, class rule and political economy and into the backwater of racism and esoteric mystical cults.

Nothing pleases the imperialists more than to be able to tar their critics with the brush of anti-semitism, to discussions of how the "Jews control the media" or Congress or Bilderburg or Haute Finance. These are tried and true themes leading to nowhere.

As a matter of fact the Jews do not control the media-Presbyterians such as Murdoch or the late Lord Thompson or the Methodist Beaverbrook or the twins who run the Telegraph or the Anglican Harmsworths or Blacks have much more power in the British, Canadian and Australian media, for example.

Yes, they are zionists but they are not Jews...but that is where we came in.

Posted by: bevin | Jul 29 2014 19:41 utc | 96

Well your employers seem to be insisting that you do your damnedest to deflect criticism of the actions of the Jewish Racist Supremacists onto anyone else BUT them

How much do your Tel Aviv contacts pay YOU for that?

Nothing pleases the imperialists more than to be able to tar their critics with the brush of anti-semitism,

indeed.

Nothing does seem to please you more - accusing people of Anti-S is a tactic you have long employed when you find yourself on the losing side of the argument - we have all seen you do it many many times

Posted by: Priceless | Jul 29 2014 19:48 utc | 97

@96
Well said.

Posted by: really | Jul 29 2014 19:52 utc | 98

Question for the Queen of Cluelessness

Why would Jewish Zionst Wall Street Banker Samuel Untermeyer, who later became chairman of the American Jewish Committee, president of the American League of Jewish Patriots, and chairman of the Non-sectarian Anti-Nazi League, fiance convicted fraudster Cyrus Scofield to essentially re-write or re-interpret the CHRISTIAN Bible?

Posted by: Priceless | Jul 29 2014 19:55 utc | 99

And why would someone that claims to be against Zio-Nazis spend so much time and effort attempting to convince others to blame anyone but the Zio-Nazi perpetrators themselves?

Posted by: Priceless | Jul 29 2014 20:00 utc | 100

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