Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
July 26, 2014

How Netanyahoo Lied To Get His War On Gaza

Shujaiya, Gaza, after recent shelling and bombing by Israel

The current war on Gaza was started by Netanyahoo based on the racist frenzy he had created over the alleged kidnapping of three teenagers. The teenagers were killed by criminals a few hours after they were abducted. Netanyahho knew this but did not tell the public for three weeks falsely blaming Hamas. By then the public was in the mood for war. An Israeli official has now confirmed this in an on-the-record quote.

As Times of Israel reported on June 22, ten days after the "kidnapping":

Netanyahu: Hard evidence Hamas behind kidnappings

Israel has conclusive evidence that Hamas is behind the June 12 kidnapping of three Israeli teenagers, and is passing that evidence on to several other countries before releasing it publicly, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Sunday morning.
Israel has “unequivocal proof that this is Hamas,” Netanyahu said ahead of the weekly cabinet meeting in Jerusalem. “We are sharing this proof and information to this effect with several countries. Soon this information will be made public.”

Netanyahoo lied but a gag order prevented the Israeli press from mentioning it. Then Max Blumenthal reported in the Electronic Intifada on July 8:

Netanyahu government knew teens were dead as it whipped up racist frenzy

Israeli police, intelligence officials and Netanyahu knew within hours of the kidnapping and murder of the three teens that they had been killed. And they knew who the prime suspects were less than a day after the kidnapping was reported.

Rather than reveal these details to the public, Israel’s Shin Bet intelligence agency imposed a gag order on the national media, barring news outlets from reporting that the teens had almost certainly been killed, and forbidding them from revealing the identities of their suspected killers. The Shin Bet even lied to the parents of the kidnapped teens, deceiving them into believing their sons were alive.
On 12 June, three Jewish Israeli youths, Naftali Frenkel, Gilad Shaar and Eyal Yifrach, went missing while hitchhiking from Kfar Etzion, an illegal settlement in the occupied West Bank. At 10:25pm, Shaar placed a panicked call to Israeli police.

During the eerie call lasting two minutes and nine seconds, the supposed kidnappers can be heard ordering the youths to keep their heads down. Israel Radio plays in the background as Shaar repeatedly appeals for help. Then several gunshots can be heard followed by celebratory singing as the kidnappers remark, “We got three.” The teens had been killed.

Soon after the call the murderers car, but not the dead bodies, was found with blood and DNA of the killed teens all over it.

J.J. Goldberg confirmed the story on July 10 in the Jewish Daily Forward and added that Hamas was clearly not responsible:

How Politics and Lies Triggered an Unintended War in Gaza (Note: I seriously doubt the "unintended" claim  in the headline here)

Once the boys’ disappearance was known, troops began a massive, 18-day search-and-rescue operation, entering thousands of homes, arresting and interrogating hundreds of individuals, racing against the clock. Only on July 1, after the boys’ bodies were found, did the truth come out: The government had known almost from the beginning that the boys were dead. It maintained the fiction that it hoped to find them alive as a pretext to dismantle Hamas’ West Bank operations.
It was clear from the beginning that the kidnappers weren’t acting on orders from Hamas leadership in Gaza or Damascus. Hamas’ Hebron branch — more a crime family than a clandestine organization — had a history of acting without the leaders’ knowledge, sometimes against their interests. Yet Netanyahu repeatedly insisted Hamas was responsible for the crime and would pay for it.

This week John B. Judis explained how the fake search for the teens developed into the war:

Who Bears More Responsibility for the War in Gaza?

The two men, as the Israeli government quickly discovered, were associated with a rogue Hamas family that had defied the organization’s leadership. The Israelis also strongly suspected that the boys had been killed, but they used the pretext of searching for the boys to arrest around 500 Palestinians, including Hamas’s West Bank officials and activists. There was sporadic rocket fire on Israel during June that seems to have come from non-Hamas Islamist groups, although the details are murky. Then on July 1, in the wake of the discovery of the three teenagers’ bodies, the Israelis launched 34 airstrikes on Gaza. On July 6, it bombed a tunnel in Gaza, killing six Hamas militants. On the next day, Hamas began taking responsibility for new rockets attacks, and the Israelis then launched Protective Edge.

All the three reports above did not name sources for the claims that Israel knew about the killing and that the murder was not Hamas related. Yesterday BBC journalist Jon Donnison was the first to get an on-the-record quote from an Israeli official:

Israeli police MickeyRosenfeld tells me men who killed 3 Israeli teens def lone cell, hamas affiliated but not operating under leadership1/2

Seems to contradict the line from Netanyahu government. 2/2

Israeli police spokes Mickey Rosenfeld also said if kidnapping had been ordered by Hamas leadership, they'd have known about it in advance.

It is obvious that Netanyahoo's war on Gaza, which has so far killed over 1,000 Palestinians, is a war of aggression justified with false claims about a crime which had no connection whatsoever with Hamas or the people of Gaza.

But the United States government, and its various client states (who very likely knew all this since June 12) is still claiming that Israel is only exercising its "right to defend" itself and should be allowed to continue to do so.

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I wonder why Israel allowed journalists into Gaza this time? UK Channel 4 team is in Gaza brought in by bus via Eretz. In 2012 the news crews had to view everything from outside Gaza, so why change? What is to be gained by showing the destruction of Gaza, you would think that this would be done out of sight?Is there another game further along the road that this is preparing us for?

Posted by: Midan | Jul 26 2014 12:25 utc | 1

Israel government seems to have a blood lust, who the hell kill 960 people?! Psychos!

Posted by: Anonymous | Jul 26 2014 13:01 utc | 2

Has anyone ever added up how many times Israel has gone The Thump! on ___________ (substitute today's punching bag) only for that pummelling to be brought to a halt following a Ooops! Sorry! My Bad! shelling of a UN compound?

Because it seems to me that this isn't a particularly unique occurrence.

Indeed, it happens so often that a cynic might begin to suspect that it is an Israeli Standard Operating Procedure i.e. go the Thump!, and once the Israelis have made their point then they call it a day via an "accidental" shelling of Something That Belongs To The United Nations.

As far as Israel is concerned it ticks all the boxes:
a) No need to talk to the other side. Tick.
b) No need to make any concessions to any mediator. Tick.
c) Ending on a high note with a very satisfying spike in the death toll. Tick.
d) Take that, you UN Bastards! Tick.

If you were a bloodthirsty warmongering rogue state then what's not to like about that?

Posted by: Johnboy | Jul 26 2014 13:40 utc | 3

I'll quickly say this again. We as a society are way past the point where whenever "events" seem to take a turn to the advantage of the US/Israelis there can no longer be a moment of hesitation as to searching for where blame lies/how those events came about.

TPTB have perfected the mechanism by which they create a story/event, buy themselves the needed amount of time/cover through the MSM to carry out their crimes and then bury any investigation/interest into said events again with help of their war criminal hand maidens in the MSM.

Each event they pull off I'm sure is reviewed and studied by the perps for faults and unnecessary latencies and then blueprints are modified for the next go around.

These fucking criminals exploit conscientious people's innate tendencies to want to wait and gather all the facts/evidence before they - the observers of the Spectacle - have time to make an informed opinion but these tendencies are exactly are what they count on to buy themselves the needed time for their war crimes.

When dealing with these two murderous war criminal nations, people have to start inculcating a natural reflexive rejection for any and all official versions that these governments offer in explanation.

Thousands if not millions of innocent lives truly depend upon us not accepting what these people tell us and unfortunately there's much to much precedent to ignore.

With each event they're getting more brazen and more practiced and we can only stop it if a wholesale rejection of the murderous shit they peddle.

Posted by: JSorrentine | Jul 26 2014 13:45 utc | 4

@1 Likud is the right wing of a state created around the ideas of victim hood and persecution, already nationalistic without the need for Bibi. Even as its clear Bibi lied about the teens, he expected to win accolades and find vast tunnels supervillains. Then the world would see.

Even in Bibi wants to pull back, he has incited his supporters and has no trophies. Like Americans who knew Hussein was evil, they won't stop until they have a trophy to justify their actions or else their myths disappear.

Wasn't the 2012 operation relatively targeted as opposed to the current operation? They didn't want to tip off anyone where they were because they specific target lists. The iron domes weren't up and running. Now the Israelis expect to find monsters under every bed.

Posted by: NotTimothyGeithner | Jul 26 2014 13:59 utc | 5

"Israel has “unequivocal proof that this is Hamas,”"

And there is "unequivocal proof" that Russia shot down the Malaysian Airliner.

And there was "unequivocal proof" that the Syrian government had launched a Sarin gas attack on Ghouta.

There was "unequivocal proof" that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.

There was "unequivocal proof" that Iran was building Atomic weapons.

There was "unequivocal proof" that Ghadaffi was bombing Benghazi and that his troops were being issued with Viagra to assist them in usinf rape as a weapon of war.

And there is "unequivocal proof" that the unemployment rate is falling, the economy is recovering and poverty is being banished from the world, going the way that racism has gone in "post racist America".

The alarming thing about this constant stream of lies is that no effort is made to re-establish official credibility. The public are expected to pretend to believe even what they find incredible, and the state monitors all communications to identify anyone expressing scepticism. Anyone who thinks that Obama is a serial liar is a potential terrorist. And there is a weird logic in that doctrine too, the sort of logic that US Law Court routinely endorse.

Carl Schmitt-Philosopher of the 21st Century.

Posted by: bevin | Jul 26 2014 13:59 utc | 6

6;Yeah,and the freakin Guardian died the last few weeks,as its coverage has become neocon,except for neolib sex and gender navel gazing.How peoples sexual orientation affects their political and foreign policy stances is beyond me,as people like Gore Vidal never let it,and makes them seem ludicrous.
And notice the silence in the MSM about Ukraine lately,and the dearth of pictures,like the one with this article,which truly displays the absolute evil of Israels actions.

Posted by: dahoit | Jul 26 2014 14:22 utc | 7

Article in the Globe and Mail, July 24.

Details a few of the reactions to the kidnap and murder of the three Jewish young men. Abdu Khdeir was murdered on the day after their funeral.

One member of the Knesset, Israel’s parliament, called for a war against the Palestinian people on her Facebook page. Another called an Arab legislator a “terrorist” during a parliamentary committee session, while still another, the leader of an ostensibly centrist party, submitted a proposal to ban an established Arab nationalist party with sitting members of the Knesset. The editor of a right-wing newspaper suggested that now was the time to transfer the Arab population out of the occupied West Bank. In Jerusalem, mobs of hyper nationalist youth rampaged through the cafe-lined downtown streets chanting “death to Arabs,” assaulting random passersby because they looked or sounded Palestinian. Most horrifically of all, a 17 year-old Palestinian boy from East Jerusalem was abducted from the street by six young Jewish men, three of them minors. The police found Mohammed Abu Khdeir’s corpse in the nearby Jerusalem Forest shortly after CCTV cameras recorded some young men forcing him into a car. He had been doused with gasoline and burned alive. Three of the six boys confessed to the crime and re-enacted it for the police.

Comment: nobody is named except the deceased Palestinian young man.

Day of, or day after, the funeral of the three Jewish youths:

In Hebron, a 9-year-old boy was run over by a settler car.

In Jenin a Palestinian teenager was shot dead by Israeli forces, he was supposedly carrying grenades.

Several foiled attempts of kidnapping of boys were reported by Palestinians. One, aged 13, is still missing (?? - idk.)

Tarik Adeli (22, from Nablus or close by) was abducted and survived a hatchet attack.

Tariq Khdeir, Abu Khdeir’s cousin, 15, a US citizen and student in a high school in Florida, was beaten up by Israeli forces, this is now under investigation, but Tariq has been freed. (He resisted arrest and had a sling shot on him.)

=> all from MSM and wiki, not particularly reliable, certainly only the tip of an iceberg.

Posted by: Noirette | Jul 26 2014 14:27 utc | 8


yeah I hate that crap too

I also hate it when dishonest/idiotic people keep claiming that the people doing all the above are somehow "just a bunch of morons" - when clearly they are not. Clearly these alleged "bunch of morons" have studied the reactions of the populace and adjust their war-crimes and follow-up psy-ops to take account of the gullibility and stupidity of those, such as yourself, that point-blank refuse to acknowledge how managed much of this is.

Posted by: Tor | Jul 26 2014 14:28 utc | 9

It was a fantastic opportunity for the Israelis to flex their muscles, destroy the Hamas-PA unity and embarrass the USA.
They knew that Egypt and Saudi Arabia would see positively the annihilation of Hamas, a group close to the detested Moslem Brotherhood. They knew that Turkey in the middle of an election period would shout loud but do little
They knew Qatar was busy funding ISIS as the last desperate attempt to topple the resilient Bashar Al Assad
They knew that the media was busy with Iraq and Ukraine and would not give lots of attention if the Gaza operation was done swiftly.

What they did not know is that Hamas was extremely well prepared and would not stop at human casualties. Their fight is for survival even if civilians die. It did not go swiftly.

Now Israel has fallen in its own trap. Egypt is paralyzed, Turkey busy, the USA biased. There is nobody who can stop that war and as time goes it is Israel who is suffering a blow in its image and bear economical disruption.
Lately France is coming up as the broker as it has good business relation with Qatar and Saudi Arabia and is close to Israel. Yet I doubt Israel trusts anti-semite France. Anyway France's foreign policy has always brought disasters ( see what is happening in Libya and Mali). I don't expect it to succeed this time, quite the contrary.

So it is dead end.

Posted by: Virgile | Jul 26 2014 15:34 utc | 10

What we are witnessing is the Israeli 'Dahiya doctrine' named after a village in southern Beirut, this is how it is spelled out by an Israeli official.In the interview, Gen Eisenkot was discussing the next round of hostilities with Hizballah. However, the doctrine was intended for use in Gaza, too.

Gabriel Siboni, a colonel in the reserves, set out the new “security concept” in an article published by Tel Aviv University’s Institute of National Security Studies two months before the assault on Gaza. Conventional military strategies for waging war against states and armies, he wrote, could not defeat sub-national resistance movements, such as Hizballah and Hamas, that have deep roots in the local population.

The goal instead was to use “disproportionate force,” thereby “inflicting damage and meting out punishment to an extent that will demand long and expensive reconstruction processes.”

Siboni identified the chief target of Israel’s rampages as “decision makers and the power elite,” including “economic interests and the centers of civilian power that support the [enemy] organization.”
All the above are war crimes and are repeated every few years, they now call it "mowing the grass" Yet unbelievably President Abbas has still not formally signed up to the ICC to try and get the individuals responsible for these well documented war crimes before a court.

Posted by: harry law | Jul 26 2014 16:23 utc | 11

It's the "shock doctrine." Plans are on the shelf, probably researched and written by Rand Corporation or some other think tank, and whenever some horror happens, whether directly instigated or by happenstance, off the shelf they come. That's why neoliberalism keeps getting stronger when all evidence is that it fails to address the crisis of capitalism; that's why Western militarism and jihad grow hand in hand. It is hard to remain resolute against such unrelenting rapacious adversaries.

Posted by: Mike Maloney | Jul 26 2014 16:29 utc | 12

So why does the US support Israel to the hilt?

The only country in the world by now to do so, say?

In no order:

- The Isr. lobby and manipulations of US pols by direct payment, blackmail, control of the media, and coercitive persuasion

- The need for an outpost, state 51, fighting Muslims who are sitting on fossil fuel resources, some kind of nuclear armed military base on the edge of the ME

- A blanket genocidal policy that approves of killing of native peoples as long as they are vaguely dark and anti-occupiers, anti-white supremacists (see US past history)

- An orgasmic secret love of violence and extreme racist politics

- Support from Israel firsters, on dubious religious grounds, the second coming and so on, mostly manufactured by the MSM and nutty preachers who see buttered bread and not the humility of crusts, to assure some popular support

- Wide-eyed admiration for a State that manages to impoverish, control, and attack some or ‘its own people’ as it usually put

- Military + security + their manufacturing Corps, who want war and violent strife at any price (sell their stuff) - plus all the hangers on, thousands of contractors, Humanitarian associations, etc. who make out like bandits and count on the killing to stay afloat, alive

- Sub-rosa regard and exploitation of underground and illegal traffic (s) that rely on a State that brandishes impunity with glee (drugs, money-laundering, organs, human trafficking, arms, dodgy finance, etc.)

- Big Corps and International Oligarchs, biz people, etc. who cannot stand US legislation and admire Israeli short-cuts and corruption (as in Ukraine btw.)

- Hallowing ethnic/religious belonging of any kind to divide and conquer, stir up trouble and violence

- Other. What did I forget?

Some points overlap, a long list all the same.

Note many of these points are not uniquely applicable to Israel but apply to other countries as well.

Posted by: Noirette | Jul 26 2014 16:32 utc | 13

Israeli Radio Won't Allow These Gazan Children's Names to be Read On Air

Posted by: Tom Murphy | Jul 26 2014 18:23 utc | 14

Some photos after israeli terrorism

Posted by: Anonymous | Jul 26 2014 18:33 utc | 15

the "Formidable Conspiracy" boys seem not to (want us to) realize that formidable and conspiracy and (mis)managing collapse are separate

Netanayahoo opportunistically and barbarically took advantage of a crime to foment unjustified mass barbarism.
Cheney-Bush-Wolfowitz-Perle took advantage of an unrelated revenge attack to lie about Saddam Hussein having WMDs, links with bin Laden, etc. and justify mass barbarism.

Posted by: truthbetold | Jul 26 2014 18:46 utc | 16

Bibi is blood thirsty. He will rest only when he dies and in the meantime the poor Palestinian will suffer because his brother was the only one who got killed in Entebbe and in his sick mind, the Palestinians wii have to pay dearly

Posted by: Yul | Jul 26 2014 19:10 utc | 17

what is there to say? it's a reoccurring nightmare that just won't go away! i do wish the world could wake up from it..

Posted by: james | Jul 26 2014 19:48 utc | 18

Israel’s "Dahiya Doctrine" comes to Gaza ~ Again

"This slaughter is official Israeli policy, called the Dahiya doctrine, here is how an Israeli official described it in 2009.”Israel has sought the political, as well as military, emasculation of Hamas through the widespread destruction of Gaza’s infrastructure and economy.This is known as the “Dahiya Doctrine,” named after a suburb of Beirut that was almost leveled during Israel’s attack on Lebanon in summer 2006. The doctrine was encapsulated in a phrase used by Dan Halutz, Israel’s chief of staff, at the time. He said Lebanon’s bombardment would “turn back the clock 20 years.”

The commanding officer in Israel’s south, Yoav Galant, echoed those sentiments on the Gaza offensive’s first day: the aim, he said, was to “send Gaza decades into the past.”Beyond these sound-bites, Gadi Eisenkot, the head of Israel’s northern command, clarified in October the practical aspects of the strategy: “What happened in the Dahiya quarter of Beirut in 2006 will happen in every village from which Israel is fired on. We will apply disproportionate force on it and cause great damage and destruction there. From our standpoint, these are not civilian villages, they are military bases. This is not a recommendation. This is a plan.”

In the interview, Gen Eisenkot was discussing the next round of hostilities with Hizballah. However, the doctrine was intended for use in Gaza, too”


Jon Snow's latest blog:

Gaza is not just about them,
it’s about us, too

Posted by: crone | Jul 26 2014 20:12 utc | 19

If the Muslims are so hellbent on driving Israel into the sea, why isn't Israel in the sea already? And don't tell me because of America. That's bull. America's a bunch of incompetent morons, remember? How could a bunch of incompetent morons prevent such overwhelming resolve the Muslims (both the Arab and Persian variety) have for annihilating Israel and hunting down Jews under every rock and behind every tree until they are no more? I need answers, and the ones offered thus far don't add up.

Posted by: Cold N. Holefield | Jul 26 2014 20:19 utc | 20


I apologize Harry, did not see your post when I posted link above... (first time I posted without reading blog first ~ won't do that again!)

Posted by: crone | Jul 26 2014 20:19 utc | 21

via Richard Silverstein

Israel Murders IDF Soldier to Prevent His Capture

I’ve devoted a good deal of my life to Israel. I’ve studied, read, visited, lived, breathed it. Not in the way diehard pro-Israel fanatics do. But in a different way that matched my own intellectual and political proclivities. It’s a subject that is rich, varied, troubling, bedeviling, and exhilarating. But every once in a while I learn something I never thought possible; and I don’t mean this in a good way.

Tonight, my Israeli source informed me that Sgt. Guy Levy, serving in the armored corps, was captured by Hamas fighters. He had been part of a joint engineering-armored-combat unit searching for tunnels. Troops entered a structure and discovered a tunnel. Suddenly, out of the shaft sprang two militants who dragged one of the soldiers into it. By return fire, one of the Palestinians was killed, while the other fled, presumably with the soldier.

This Israeli report , which was censored by the IDF, says only that the attempt to capture the soldier failed. It says nothing about his fate. The expectation of anyone reading it would be that the soldier was freed. But he was not. In order to prevent the success of the operation, the IDF killed him. Nana reports that the IDF fired a tank shell into the building, which is the same way another captured soldier was killed by the IDF during Cast Lead.

It’s called the Hannibal Directive. Though the Wikipedia article doesn’t explain the reference to Hannibal, I assume it relates to the death of the great Carthaginian general, who took poison rather than allow himself to be captured by his mortal enemy, the Romans. Though Sara Leibovich-Dar wrote in 2003 that the name came from a military computer!

In my long history of dedication to this subject, I’ve rarely seen anything that has disturbed me as much. The Hannibal Directive is: Continue

Posted by: crone | Jul 26 2014 20:38 utc | 22

Cold N Holefield

Simply because arabs dont want it? Compare to israel that driving arabs into the sea this very moment.

Posted by: Anonymous | Jul 26 2014 20:41 utc | 23

Russia sanctioned for tragic accident, Israel not sanctioned for deliberate massacre.

Posted by: Vollin | Jul 26 2014 21:00 utc | 24


Dummy,"Russia" did only kill 300 on airplane, you must kill 1000 like israel to get support by west, dont you know?
[irony tag]

Posted by: Anonymous | Jul 26 2014 21:18 utc | 25

The ZioNazim thaumaturgy and Bayesian Law propels them to ever-increasing mass murders
while flaying from behind those who have any humanitarian doubts by a meekly antagonistic
world press, an inbred apartheid racism, together with the lure of a TRILLION cubic feet of Gazan natural gas, just offshore, ready to loot, which will be all theirs, me precious.

**This is an irrevocable and inexorable recipe for a Second Holocaust, as also in Ukraine.**

Discuss. (see notes below)


Severian of Nessus, Amateur Bayesian

by Henry on July 22, 2014

Noah Smith today

Consider Proposition H: “God is watching out for me, and has a special purpose for me and me alone. Therefore, God will not let me die. No matter how dangerous a threat seems, it cannot possibly kill me, because God is looking out for me – and only me – at all times.” Suppose that you believe that there is a nonzero probability that H is true. And suppose you are a Bayesian – you update your beliefs according to Bayes’ Rule. As you survive longer and longer – as more and more threats fail to kill you – your belief about the probability that H is true must increase and increase. It’s just mechanical application of Bayes’ Rule.

Gene Wolfe, The Citadel of the Autarch

Often their chants sounded so clearly that I could make out the words, though they were in no language I had ever heard. Once one actually stood on his saddle like a performer in a riding exhibition, lifting a hand to the sun and extending the other toward the Ascians. Each rider seemed to have a personal spell; and it was easy to see, as I watched their numbers shrink under the bombardment, how such primitive minds come to believe in their charms, for the survivors could not but feel their thaumaturgy had saved them, and the rest could not complain of the failure of theirs.

Posted by: chip nikh | Jul 26 2014 21:29 utc | 26

British MP Stands up for Gaza 100,000 appear

Posted by: crone | Jul 26 2014 21:39 utc | 27


I live beside the jungle. There are millions and millions of mosquitoes that want to drive me into the sea, that want to drink my blood. Poisonous mosquitoes. Diseased mosquitoes.

When I go outside on a breezy day, protected by the salt and hot sun and divine winds of America, they are nowhere to be found. I am invincible in my domain, lounging on my deck chair, in my illegal condo tower, gazing out over their Gazan apotheosis. I am The Chosen.

When I go outside on a rainy day, or work unprotected in the garden, they swarm around me in a droning humm, countless jihadi warriors, flying hypodermics,... but my tank shell hands are red with their blood, and my helicopter gunship white phosphorus bug spray beats them down by the dozens the hundreds. I am invincible in their haunts. I am The Chosen.

And if they overwhelm me, I merely need to step back inside the screen of razor wire I've erected around their Gazan concentration camp. Go ahead, you vicious mosquitoes, be my guest, you filthy cockroaches, blacken that screen, I'll kill you later.

For I am The Chosen.

Posted by: chip nikh | Jul 26 2014 21:42 utc | 28


Why does the US support Israel to the hilt?

The answer is simple.

US government *foreign policy* is divided between State, and Defense (sic).

State are Ivy League whores. We all know that.

Look at them. Albright, whore. Rice, whore. Clinton, whore. Kerry-Kohn, whore. Whores to power over human life, and of course, massive rewards of their position viz The Chosen.

Clinton went from $-35M in debt for her failed presidential campaign, then to the largest world tour of any State Secretary, ever, selling pay-for-play access, as she grifted $5B stolen out of Americans' last life savings from US Humanitarian Aid funds to Afghanistan, and gave it directly to Hamid Karzai's Bank of Kabul.

UK's Miliband was her grift accomplice, another Chosen, and his career blossomed as well.

When Karzai lost it all on Dubia R/E scams, Clinton flew back to Kabul and grifted him with another $3.5B, to prevent audit of Bank of Kabul's collapse, so as not to reveal the money trail. $8.5B. She retired as Secretary after 'undisclosed benefactors' paid off her $-35M campaign fund, with $50 MILLION, after four years in Federal service. $85 M total grift, out of $8.5 B grifted to Karzai. The One Percent Club. Are you getting any of this?

This was all done in plain view, in the nightly news, without any connect-the-dots subtext.

Defense is all about MIC, but there's a deeper subtext: the Future Warrior, the Invincible '300' Titan, the Onward Christian Soldier rabbinical Theocracy every bit as powerful as the Talibans'. Those lower level E's don't believe this shit, they're like you and me,'s the OFFICERS, the O's, the ones with fat salaries, and uplift, and local cost risers, and free housing and utilities on base, subsidized food and fuel, a Club Fed fantasy Disneyland suburb carved out in 800 foreign lands, ...those are the ones who are the rabbinicals.

And why not? Look at Petraeus, paid millions, on multiple corporate boards, 'teaching' (sic) at prestigious colleges. Every Admiral, and there are a 1000, every General, and more than 1000, receives $250,000 a year, for life, all expenses paid, free airfare anywhere in the world, any time, whether they have a post or whether they're just killing time on the golf course, it's in their Federal contract. There are more Admirals than fighting ships, more Generals than fighting platoons. More than the Soviets ever had. Think about that.

Then add crazies in Fundie-Christian Air Force Academy, the nutjobs at Fundie-Christian West Point, add the real wackos who hijacked six nuclear cruise missiles in Minot, and the foaming at the mouth Apocalyptics who believe in an alphabet soup of Old Testament, Talmud, and Satanic ritual (Google Presidio), who are ready to carpet bmob on command, anywhere.

There are at any moment 80,000+ Federal jobs held exclusively for TS/SCI clearance military officers as 'security analysts' paying six figure salaries. Just 'FEMA' or 'DHS'.

So why does the US support Israel to the hilt?


You're no longer part of the System.
You're above the System. Over it. Beyond it.
You're "them." You're "they." You are the Blue Team. The Right Stuff.
And you make this look good.

Posted by: chip nikh | Jul 26 2014 22:18 utc | 29

Tor @9
Please don't take offence at my occasionally observing that the various hands responsible for US Foreign Policy get in each others way. And that they are moronic to believe that the crude and incredible lies that they tell will long stand the scrutiny of popular opinion.

I wasn't suggesting that you were responsible-not all morons work for the US government and its allies.
Some of them actually oppose US imperialism but, being morons, they insist that freedom of thought and opinion and untrammelled enquiry are impermissible.

They, like yourself, insist that everyone objecting to US propaganda first swear loyalty oaths and subscribe to the same narrow and idiotic theories that they do.

Being idiots, as well as sectarians, they do not realise that the only beneficiaries of this are the imperialists themselves who like nothing better than to see forces with the potential to unite against them, splitting hairs and chalking up debating points against each other.

The United States is almost unique in the weakness and ineffectiveness of its socialist opposition. One of the many reasons why this is so is the intense sectarian infighting which has long characterised its marxist currents. This peculiarity is almost certainly connected to the ease with which police agents have always been able not just to penetrate these sects but to assume leading positions in them.

Splitting, the state understands, weakens it does not strengthen. Seeking out grounds for splitting, rather than looking for common action around common purposes is merely destructive. When, as in the case of your attack @9, the grounds are spurious at best and fictional in fact they are worse than destructive. And those responsible are worse than moronic.

Posted by: bevin | Jul 26 2014 23:40 utc | 30

This is absolutely despicable but par for Israeli actions. It's like the Cast Lead operation deliberately conducted during the lame duck period between Bush and Obama. And then there was the testing of Iron Dome where they broke a cease fire period to kill a Hamas leader they said was responsible for some action months before. There was the anticipated missile retaliation and an opportunity to test Iron Dome (which is paid for by the US). Of course, the history of this on-going war goes back to '48 and before.

Posted by: Curtis | Jul 27 2014 0:15 utc | 31

Dear Bevin

Idiots such as yourself do realise, but don't care for some reason, that the only beneficiaries of your idiotic "They are ALL morons, so they cannot organise anything nefarious" and your equally idiotic, but much much more dishonest "It's all just a result of their Incompetence, there's no forethought or planning in anything they do" are the imperialists themselves who like nothing better than to see forces with the potential to unite against them, being distracted by dishonest buffons such as yourself

kindly f*ck off, you pompous buffoon

ta very much


Posted by: Tor | Jul 27 2014 0:34 utc | 32

'Snowden added that the American CIA and the British Intelligence collaborated with the Israeli Mossad to create a terrorist organization that is able to attract all extremists of the world to one place, using a strategy called “the hornet’s nest”.

The “Hornet’s nest’’ strategy aims to bring all the major threats to one place in order to track them, and mostly to shake the stability of the Arab countries. The NSA agent revealed that the ISIS “Calif”, Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi went trough intense military training in the Israeli intelligence “Mossad”.'

Posted by: brian | Jul 27 2014 1:31 utc | 33

lying to the Goyim! what a novel idea!

Posted by: brian | Jul 27 2014 1:31 utc | 34

Israel's long-term goal is the takeover of all of Palestine, which it has nearly achieved. There is no international resistance to this. Palestinians, especially in Gaza, are all terrorists, the story goes.

The Israeli position is for a "Greater Israel," the territory of the State of Israel and the Palestinian territories, the territory of the former British Mandate of Palestine. However, because of the controversial nature of the term, the term Land of Israel is used.--wiki

The Israeli position on borders goes back to UNSC Res 242 which included:
(i) Withdrawal of Israel armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict;
(ii) Termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgment of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force."

The Israeli position: Israel, in any future agreement with the Palestinians, has a critical need for defensible borders. As this video shows, Israel's "defensible borders" coincide with Palestine's plus the airspace above it.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jul 27 2014 1:34 utc | 35

@ COLDN @ 19

Looks like you've constructed a strong deductive argument that "Muslims" DON'T actually want to "drive Israel into the sea" - without noticing, of course. Since you missed that much Im sure you wont make the inductive leap and figure out who really Is mainly behind the "Muslims want to drive Israel into the sea" bogey.

Posted by: Marc | Jul 27 2014 1:51 utc | 36


Hamas Killed 160 Palestinian Children to Build Terror Tunnels!!!!

Militant group used child labor to construct underground network in Gaza
By Myer Freimann

Read Article »

"Not only are Hamas misappropriating humanitarian aid supplied to Gaza, they are also directly exploiting and endangering Gaza’s youth in their construction and operation!!!"


Posted by: chip nikh | Jul 27 2014 1:54 utc | 37


Good one

Posted by: Prey4 Justice | Jul 27 2014 2:06 utc | 38


I believe Snowden is a plant by the CIA, feeding through Greenwald, either a CIA or Mossad trained psyop distributor himself, to get people to believe that NSA is evil, that NSA should be reined in, when in fact it's the CIA Old Boy 'Black Ops' Network which is the greater evil and together with MOSSAD is behind Sep11 and the other terrorist hashtags, all the way back to Pol Pot.

So this Snowden-Greenwald article is designed to 'sell' to the world that Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi is a Mossad mole, he'll then be assassinated by his own people, even though he prolly WAS trained by Mossad, but now serves no purpose, or is distracting from the psyops reversal campaign in Ukraine, and needs to be reined in, like OBL when Barry needed a public relations Navy Seals victory, presumably killed off as a 'loose thread'.

CIA-Mossad have a budgeted $35 BILLION a year for domestic propaganda and black ops.

What does MoA have? Snowden-Greenwald. Yeah.

Posted by: chip nikh | Jul 27 2014 2:11 utc | 39

Patrick Cockburn on where the lies come from:

Posted by: bevin | Jul 27 2014 2:24 utc | 40

“My view of the Israeli operation, stay as long as you need to stay…It’s not the number of casualties that determines the moral outcome here … if I were Israel, I would stay in Gaza as long as I needed to to stop the rockets for good.” - Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC)

Posted by: Charles Dexter Ward | Jul 27 2014 2:46 utc | 41

"In our time, political speech and writing are largely the defense of the indefensible . . . Thus political language has to consist largely of euphemism, question-begging and sheer cloudy vagueness. Defenseless villages are bombarded from the air, the inhabitants driven out into the countryside, the cattle machine-gunned, the huts set on fire with incendiary bullets: this is called pacification. Millions of peasants are robbed of their farms and sent trudging along the roads with no more than they can carry: this is called transfer of population or rectification of frontiers. . ." -- George Orwell, Politics and the English Language, 1946

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jul 27 2014 2:52 utc | 42

Nancy Pelosi issued a statement concerning the Israeli operation in Gaza in which she wrote that "When Israel is attacked, the United States must continue to stand strongly with its friend and democratic ally."

According to Pelosi, "Peace between Israelis and Palestinians cannot result from daily barrages of rocket and mortar fire from Hamas-controlled Gaza. Hamas and its supporters must understand that Gaza cannot and will not be allowed to be a sanctuary for attacks on Israel." Nancy Pelosi - 2008 (D-CA)

Posted by: Charles Dexter Ward | Jul 27 2014 2:52 utc | 43

Gaza cannot and will not be allowed to be a sanctuary for attacks on Israelexist. We'll starve them and bomb them, and eventually Gaza will disappear. --Nancy Pelosi - 2008 (D-CA)

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jul 27 2014 3:25 utc | 44

Tor(as you call yourself today)
Neither of these views, which you attribute to me as quotations, is actually mine:
"They are ALL morons, so they cannot organise anything nefarious" ..."It's all just a result of their Incompetence, there's no forethought or planning in anything they do"

Nor do they represent my views.

Underneath your juvenile insolence, and transparent dishonesty, there is however a serious political point.

Mistaken, but widely shared, it is that all of the actions of the US government and its imperial agents are not only carefully planned and faithfully executed, but that they all slot precisely into a master plan for hegemony which, it can only be a matter of time, will surely succeed.

My view is that, on the contrary, the US attempt to achieve global hegemony is bound to fail and that every day brings new evidence that this is so.

The Empire is failing because, in a word, its leaders suffers from Hubris.

They think that, because they can get away with anything domestically, they can do the same internationally.

They consider themselves too powerful, militarily, to need to be clever.

They make dumb mistakes because they don't think that it matters if they make mistakes. They hire cronies who don't speak Arabic and rely on Wikipedia for their knowledge of Islam, to represent them in Arabia because they don't think that, once the Sauds and a handful of emirs have been talked to, Arab opinion is worth understanding.
They listen into Merkel's cell phone because..Why Not? She can't stop them. Germany lost the war didn't it?

And when the news is made public, they don't apologise because who is going to make them?

They simultaneously affront Russia, Iran and China not to push them together into a coalition but because it doesn't occur to them that if they want to intimidate Russia it serves their purpose to make Moscow believe that, once again, a la Kissinger/Nixon, they are bringing China into the US camp.

They insist that Germany agree to a blockade of Russia because they have no conception of the possibility that, rather than follow orders (tactlessly and humiliatingly issued) Germany might just say NO, because it has interests of its own that war with Russia would not advance.

They push Sisi, the Sauds and the scum running the UAE, to give full support to the assault on Gaza, not because that support is critical to the success of Israeli arms, but in defiance of the clear fact that the result of making them accessories to the crime will inevitably make the survival of their regimes much more difficult.

It is all very well for those who regard every consequence of US policy to have been planned in advance (The Iraq war was a total success! The situation in Afghanistan is precisely what Washington was aiming for! Libya is just where we want it to be!) to denounce those who suggest otherwise as being unaware of the world reach of the Masonic order or the cunning of the Illuminati, not to mention the ubiquity of Zionists, what you don't explain is how the Empire of your dreams, where everything is perfectly co-ordinated and everyone is onside, could possibly be defeated. Maybe you have given up on that and confine your energies to hammering "pompous" people on the internet

The truth is that the clowns running the Empire, including Netanyahu and Obama, are evil, capable of causing enormous havoc, killing people by the million but they will not prevail because their policies are self defeating, suicidal.

If these people knew what they were doing they would be shoring up support at home, instead of piling up combustibles besides the explosion shortly due; crying crocodile tears over Gaza, rather than laughing in the lawnchairs as the bombs fall; and dividing the world community instead of applauding as it lines up against them.

When the US is on its own in the UN, the only country among fifty voting (or abstaining) against the resolution on Gaza, it is weakening its position, making hegemony harder to achieve, driving its friends into the arms of its enemies, not being very clever.

"Oh no" protests Tor (as he calls himself today) "it is all part of the master plan. These people know everything. Nothing happens without them wanting it to. They were behind the events of 9/11, every one of them. Oh yeah and Snowden was a plant. And Saigon was evacuated because...And the US was never really in favour of Jonas Savimbi in Angola. When the Cubans won, it was because Washington wanted it. As to the end of Apartheid- that was totally US policy. Just like the Tahrir Square protests...all part of the lizards' (or should that be Lizard’s) plan."

Posted by: bevin | Jul 27 2014 3:37 utc | 45

@7 Yes the Guardian is horrible. Look how they deleted my comment:

Posted by: Tom Murphy | Jul 27 2014 3:43 utc | 46

@Tom Murphy #45:

It's very good that you documented that.

It is as if the PTB in the Anglosphere have completely rejected the ideas of freedom of speech and diversity of opinion, not to mention justice. In contrast, you can find all kinds of silly Russophobic comments at RT that never get deleted.

I've noticed that there have recently been much fewer anti-junta comments at the Guardian on articles on the former Ukraine than there were two months ago.

Posted by: Demian | Jul 27 2014 4:08 utc | 47

@44 bevin.. you are wasting your time...

@39 and thanks for the link to the cockburn piece showing us frank luntz as another goebbels...good job frank luntz, working for the 21st century nazi regime.. i hope the pay is good and your conscience sleeps well..

Posted by: james | Jul 27 2014 4:20 utc | 48


I find that report you linked to highly suspect... 160 children died digging tunnels... Hamas said...
yes, highly suspect...

Posted by: crone | Jul 27 2014 4:35 utc | 49

Don Bacon... so good to see you back!

Posted by: crone | Jul 27 2014 4:39 utc | 50

OT, but this brightened my day:

President Bashar al-Assad sworn in for a new term, addresses Syrians in milestone speech (in English)

This is proof that the Empire can be beaten. Proof that a "red line" emanating from the White House is sometimes just be the one they left in the sand while staggering away from the scene of their crimes with a massive bloody nose.


I don't think bevin is wasting his time at all. Assholes should know it.

Posted by: guest77 | Jul 27 2014 4:48 utc | 51

If there is any hope to what is happening in Gaza today, it is that there is a strong, confident, battle-hardened Syrian Army sitting on the settler state's Northern Border - not to mention Hezbollah, now added to with 20 million Syrians - just waiting to avenge the hell that the Imperialists have put them through.

If this is what the FUKUSI were planning, then they are stupider than even bevin gives them credit for.

Posted by: guest77 | Jul 27 2014 4:55 utc | 52

outstanding video ~ please share it~

Posted by: crone | Jul 27 2014 5:07 utc | 53

Tor(as you call yourself today)
Neither of these views, which you attribute to me as quotations, is actually mine:
"They are ALL morons, so they cannot organise anything nefarious" ..."It's all just a result of their Incompetence, there's no forethought or planning in anything they do"

Nor do they represent my views.

Oh they absolutely do represent your views - we've all seen you pimping that crap - damned curious that you now choose to lie about it though.

"Oh no" protests Tor (as he calls himself today) "it is all part of the master plan. These people know everything. Nothing happens without them wanting it to. They were behind the events of 9/11, every one of them. Oh yeah and Snowden was a plant. And Saigon was evacuated because...And the US was never really in favour of Jonas Savimbi in Angola. When the Cubans won, it was because Washington wanted it. As to the end of Apartheid- that was totally US policy. Just like the Tahrir Square protests...all part of the lizards' (or should that be Lizard’s) plan."

I love the bit where you just make up a whole load of shit and then attribute it to others, though. Anyone that want to see what a useless little pompous knobhead you are need only note that. Throwing in David Icke to boot - can accusations of Anti-Semitism, from the Pontiff of pompous pseudo-intellecuallism, be far behind?


If these people knew what they were doing they would be shoring up support at home, instead of piling up combustibles besides the explosion shortly due; crying crocodile tears over Gaza, rather than laughing in the lawnchairs as the bombs fall; and dividing the world community instead of applauding as it lines up against them.

oh fuck, you really are a dimwit. here we go with the usual "They are soooo stupid. If they only listened to me they would know how stupid they really are" - tell us again Pontiff bevin, how stupid the rulers are!! They be doing this, and they be doing that, cos Pontiff bevin just truly KNOWS what their aims are.

It never occurs to the Pontiff of Canadian pseudo-intellectualism that maybe, pompous prick that he is, he has not yet figured out what they are up to?

The Pontiff would claim "Look! they lost in Vietnam and they lost in Iraq! So there! HAH! That PROVES my point!" never having of course considered that maybe, just maybe, their definition of "WIN!" in those situations is somewhat different than what the Pontiff of Canadian Pseudo-Intellectualism thinks it is/was?


Assholes should know it.

Posted by: Gimp77 | Jul 27, 2014 12:48:57 AM | 50

Exactly - and that's why I'm taking the time to point it out to the asshole.

Posted by: Tor | Jul 27 2014 5:46 utc | 54

Bevin, in general, it is very difficult to win a pissing match with a skunk. However, you seem to have exposed this skunk without getting too much stink on yourself with this Tor creature.

In any case good points.

Posted by: ToivoS | Jul 27 2014 6:04 utc | 55

However, you seem to have exposed this skunk

. . . said the fake-Anti-Zionist

Good man ToiBoi, your arrival, along with gimp77, makes a trifecta of fake left asshats. Bevin and his two little lapdogs.

Posted by: Tor | Jul 27 2014 6:27 utc | 56

@ToivoS #54:

I believe you are mistaken. Making a substantive reply to a troll is never a good idea, IMO.

Posted by: Demian | Jul 27 2014 6:54 utc | 57

Hey Tor you seem to know who I am. I heard the ToiBoi insult once before but I do not think it was from a Tor. Who are you? Another question: why do you think transforming my handle into ToiBoi is an insult? Can you elaborate? Sounds crude to me but maybe you have some other implication in mind.

Posted by: ToivoS | Jul 27 2014 6:59 utc | 58

Richard Silverstein says Bibi lied... Bibi is evil... and a war criminal.

"... This entire slaughter is based on a lie. And not just a small lie, but a huge, cancerous, evil lie. I do not like to make absolute moral statements if I can avoid it. But there is no doubt in my mind that Bibi Netanyahu is evil. While that doesn’t necessarily mean all of Israel is evil, as long as they elect this melalomaniac to office, then all of Israel is culpable in his malevolence.

Bibi must be brought to the Hague."

more more

Posted by: crone | Jul 27 2014 7:10 utc | 59

Richard Silverstein says Bibi lied... Bibi is evil... and a war criminal.

"... This entire slaughter is based on a lie. And not just a small lie, but a huge, cancerous, evil lie. I do not like to make absolute moral statements if I can avoid it. But there is no doubt in my mind that Bibi Netanyahu is evil. While that doesn’t necessarily mean all of Israel is evil, as long as they elect this melalomaniac to office, then all of Israel is culpable in his malevolence.

Bibi must be brought to the Hague."

more more

Posted by: crone | Jul 27 2014 7:11 utc | 60


"We won, you lost. It's just ethnic-cleansing, get over it. Now GET OFF ISRAELI LAND!"

Bibi must be HANGED at the Hague! He's murdered more civilians than Saddam Hussein!!

What does the fokks say?

Posted by: chip nikh | Jul 27 2014 7:24 utc | 61

@crone #58:

I'm sorry, I don't know who this Richard Silverstein is. And the observation that the chief executive of Israel, or of the United States or Great Britain for that matter, is a war criminal and evil is hardly new information.

As has become increasingly clear, Anglophone culture is inherently evil. Total surveillance (see Jeremy Bentham's panopticon) and the idea that a human being is nothing but an amoral pleasure unit (see neoclassical economics, which has embraced neoliberalism) are both English/Scottish ideas. As I have said before, I object to the concept of "AngloZionism", but there there can be little doubt that there is an elective affinity between the Anglophone quest to extinguish any spark of freedom anywhere in the world and Zionism.

Posted by: Demian | Jul 27 2014 7:34 utc | 62

guest77 @51 Totally agree, but you forgot Hezbollah have 100,000 rockets of all sizes, Nasrallah has said they can reach every part of Israel, and that the next war will see Hez operatives in Israel, not forgetting the Hezbollah navy, with undersea craft and those supersonic unstoppable Chinese missiles. Nazrallah is almost in a position to say "Go ahead make my day" or better still I know what your thinking, did I fire 6,000 missiles or only 5,000. Well to tell you the truth in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself. But being as these are the most powerful missiles in my armoury and would close your airports harbours and refineries, you've got to ask yourself one question " Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk?

Posted by: harry law | Jul 27 2014 8:20 utc | 63

The Israelis are in a lather over Kerry's draft ceasefire proposal.

Apparently that draft attempted to ground itself in reality i.e. it started from the assumption that maintaining an endless military siege of 1.8 million people isn't exactly A Viable Long Term Plan For Peace And Prosperity.

Such a notion was utterly unacceptable to the Israeli leadership, who seem to think that "normality" is something that is to be reserved for Israelis, and is to be utterly denied to everyone else who is under the IDF's Thumb.

Kerry doesn't appear to be sympathetic to that idea, which is why he is now being pilloried in the Israeli press as "negligent", "lacking understanding", "incapable" and (my favourite) "a nebbish".

He must be doing something right....

Posted by: Johnboy | Jul 27 2014 11:48 utc | 64

A case study on how to breed hatred and violence.

A disgusting video of what Netanyahu & his gang of Zionist thugs are breeding in the apartheid state of 'Israel'. They certainly need to be held accountable for fostering a culture of hate and brutish bigoted bullying towards indigenous Palestinians.

The boy will be traumatized and angry. The small otherwise innocent girl will likely develop into a fully-fledged fascist within this cultural environment and then continue to perpetuate the evil.

Facebook entry here:

You Tube have 'restricted' its access. Are they embarrassed to host what obviously passes as 'normal' childhood education & training in Israel? It certainly belongs in the class of psychic pedophilia. Chosen people?... Exceptional? ... not in my opinion!

Posted by: y | Jul 27 2014 12:00 utc | 65


Is that really hebrew in the background?

Posted by: Anonymous | Jul 27 2014 12:08 utc | 66

Sorry for intrusion ...


From German ARD/WDR tv journalist: Demian von Osten @demianvonosten

Sprecher des nationalen Sicherheitsrates in #Kiew sagt:
Ukr. Armee will Absturzstelle erobern. #mh17

"Ukraine Army wants to capture crashsite MH-17"

Heavy shelling in Torez on the #MH17 site, people sheltering in basements

Posted by: Oui | Jul 27 2014 13:37 utc | 67

Bevin et al, I understand that it makes you all feel better psychologically to think that THIS [insert latest episode/event here] is THE straw that will finally break the Empire's back, that THIS "blunder" is just one blunder too many but your self-gratifying - yes, self-gratifying because you position yourself as possessing the intelligence/wisdom to be able to clearly see/understand all of the innumerable "mistakes" of TPTB - their motives, their aims, etc - going back decades and decades - but your position is completely and easily destroyed again and again by simply repetition of the following facts:

TPTB have successfully - i.e., they've not been killed, imprisoned or weakened - committed all of those past crimes as they will successfully pull of the current crimes in Ukraine and Gaza.

They have successfully destabilized even more territory committing unspeakable crimes along the way and they will be here same time next year to do so once again and they year after that and the year after that rolling out to the foreseeable future.

Ghouta was supposed to be the last straw, right? Libya before that?

So, tell us the cause for celebration beyond it being a psychic salve for the those who are trying to find something to be hopeful about in the face of the ONCE AGAIN successful commission of war crimes by TPTB who will continue on without a scratch, will consolidate their power and will undoubtedly get richer along the way?

Just because you and the rest of the fake left representatives KNOW that TPTB are near the end, you seem too think that this "realization" means ANYTHING in the larger schemes - such as those of TPTB - of things.

If TPTB actually gave a shit about people "knowing" that they were just stupid bumblers who can never just seem to get things right, do you really think you'd be able to watch Rachel Maddow, Amy Goodman, Noam and every other member of the fake left stable on TV?

The satisfaction that you and others wallows in is BY DESIGN so that a sense of complacency about the IMMINENT collapse of the Empire is promulgated among conscientious people so you all do not realize that the rule of the war criminal elite will continue on apace until someone actually stops them either through death or imprisonment.

It's sad to see well-meaning people lap up the propagandistic narrative that has been designed to keep them at bay so readily but hey the narrative builders are professionals.

Anyways, now's the time for you to accuse me of being nihilistic blah blah blah and too shortsighted to see that HOPEY CHANGE is right around the corner due to the "incompetence" of our leaders who like all SUCCESSFUL serial killers continue unimpeded on their murderous rampage which has been going on for decades.

They're all going to get away with Gaza ONCE AGAIN. You know that. I know that. So to sit here and try and tell us in the face of ANOTHER 1000+ slaughtered is almost so absurd that it doesn't merit a comment.

They will all be around to keep killing and take advantage of that killing and that's what successful murderers do - keep killing and staying alive - and no wishful thinking is going to change that.

Posted by: JSorrentine | Jul 27 2014 14:14 utc | 68

Tor, the DARPA initiated, State Department funded technology that allows little nazi geeks to troll small websites.

Your tax dollars at work.

Posted by: guest77 | Jul 27 2014 14:33 utc | 69

Tor;Well,they announced at the Graun that Russia is trying(paying?) to get people to decipher Tor,a US Navy origin spy network,and of course the Russians know that we have them in the crosshairs,and are doing it to secure themselves from Ziodomestic provocateurs who infest their nation,as they do ours,but here,in our naive welcoming society of inclusion,we've let them abscond with our democracy.This guy is just using the handle as a hit against the Russians.
How any human can be supportive of the Ziomonsters murder spree,is almost beyond comprehension,and just shows the corrosive effects of 9-11 and the Ziomonsters corrupt MSM BS.

Posted by: dahoit | Jul 27 2014 14:39 utc | 70

I shouldn't even need to deconstruct how ridiculously stupid this story is... nor how economic it is to throw all your boogiemen in one basket.

Posted by: Monolycus | Jul 27 2014 14:43 utc | 71

no one thinks your a nihilist, JSore. We think you've got a slave mentality.

I mean, if you can't see that Assad's reelection or the failure of the US to bomb Syria to smitherines are real vicrtories, then your just out of touch. The people you say your on the side of are celebrating, despite that they just went through hell and know more is certainly coming for them (not for you) - why can't you?

Posted by: guest77 | Jul 27 2014 14:51 utc | 72

It's always funny to see diatribes about choseness when the topic of Palestinian Israeli relations comes up or more specifically Hamas Likud relations. The discussing rapidly moves to Jewish Islamic relations. People just don't take religion seriously, they simply don't read the texts or think about the implications. That is how you can have a vast language about the evils of Jewish chose ness without noticing that the hadiths do the same thing for Islam turning the Arab peoples into the new and improved chosen, with the descendants of the prophets family being special magic people, with Arabic being the favourite sound god wishes to be worshipped in, with Arab cultural forms being superior all other ethnic cultural forms. Islam proclaims a unity but in practice there is an ethnic paternalistic hierarchy with Arab male descendants of the prophet on top and all other humans below.
This makes narratives on the evil of Hebrew choseness relative. The question becomes which pretension can the world live with. It's a bit of an open question.

Posted by: Northern observer | Jul 27 2014 14:58 utc | 73

and the idea that this will all end with the US government neocons being hung- as appealing an idea as that might be- is probably not in the cards unless foreign armies occupy New York and Washington DC. So at this point I think we have to be glad when just a few more people lives are saved, when a few more countiries get their independence from debt slavery, and when the US gets stared down on the world stage.

Plus, I don't think that you can see into the future far enough to know that it may very well turn out very badly for the US on all the fronts it is currently fighting on. They are in the midst of their "project" and the world is in the midst of fighting back. And you're some guy in 1943 screaming that the Germans really wanted to lose at the gates of Moscow so they could fight another year.

Posted by: guest77 | Jul 27 2014 15:02 utc | 74

I guess seeing reality clearly is being a slave in the rarefied universe you inhabit.


So, pointing out the fact that the killers and criminals are still free to keep on their destructive path just gets in the way of all the back-slapping at the fake left barbeque, huh? Save me a mojito!!

Nope you and the rest of your gang are just so "free" as to be able to have a party celebrating that our leaders didn't kill EVERYONE on the planet this go around!!!


Gee, and to wonder why the rest of the planet fucking hates the US, huh?

We have murderous criminals for leaders and our most conscientious citizens are celebrating that said war criminal leaders didn't kill everybody in a given arena, y'know, just a couple hundred thou or so, made another million or two refugees and they - i.e., the criminal killers - will be around to do it all again, what?, next year? two years from now? 5 years from now?

You're right, let's party, bro!!

Posted by: JSorrentine | Jul 27 2014 15:10 utc | 75

@ 61

Demian, because you don't know who Richard Silverstein is, doesn't mean he is well known by most Jews and many non-Jews. Suggest you do some homework in this area. :-)

Posted by: crone | Jul 27 2014 15:16 utc | 76

Nice to see all of the moronic coincidence-theorist fake left Zio-donkey-Dongers out in force today to provide support for the Bitchy Queen of Cluelessness

I mean, if you can't see that Assad's reelection or the failure of the US to bomb Syria to smitherines are real vicrtories, then your just out of touch.

WTF is this idiot talking about. What "victory"? Newsflash for the Donkey-Dongers: Syria is a mess! It's cities have been destroyed, it's people traumatised, it's infrastructure in ruins.

It doesn't matter if Assad still is in power - the Zio-Nazi-run Empire has effectively destroyed Syria, as an effective enemy of the Zio-State, for at least the next 20 or 30 years. And all without using any of it's own military. War on the cheap. All they did was release the dregs of the Arab world on Syria.

It won't recover from this for decades. You truly are a clueless gimp

Posted by: TOr | Jul 27 2014 15:16 utc | 77

our most conscientious citizens are celebrating that said war criminal leaders didn't kill everybody in a given arena, y'know, just a couple hundred thou or so, made another million or two refugees and they - i.e., the criminal killers - will be around to do it all again, what?, next year? two years from now? 5 years from now?

You're right, let's party, bro!!

Posted by: JSorrentine | Jul 27, 2014 11:10:40 AM | 74

It sure is amazing what some of the more clueless here have convinced themselves constitutes "Victory!" alright.

I guess if you're a highly ineffective fake-left North American "Union Organiser" [***] a destroyed smashed society might seem like some sort of a victory alright


[***] - could there be any provably less-effective individual on this planet than a "North American "Union Organiser"? How's them Unions been working out for you yanks? Highly effective and organised by this stage, I'll bet, what with you having spent a large chunk of your adult life on the case an all


Oh wait I just thought of ONE less-effective profession than a "North American 'Union Organiser'" . . . . . . . . . . . . . . "Zio-Nazi Military Ethicist"!

Congratulations gimp, you're not quite as ineffective and utterly useless as I first suppossed

Posted by: Tor | Jul 27 2014 15:27 utc | 78

TOr - you're an asshole even if you are stating the reality on syria being a huge mess and the primary intent of the usa/israel game plan.. why is it some feel like they have to treat others like shit to get their point across? what is stopping you for saying your piece without trying to demean others? that is why i think you're an asshole..

Posted by: james | Jul 27 2014 15:31 utc | 79

good for you james, tell us more.

Posted by: Tor | Jul 27 2014 15:33 utc | 80

james if you were to save some of that rage for you bitchy little arsehole friends like gimp77 you might have some credibility on that score

Posted by: Tor | Jul 27 2014 15:36 utc | 81

tor - i think stating your view without trying to tear down others isn't that difficult. that's all.

Posted by: james | Jul 27 2014 15:52 utc | 82

like I said james: "if you were to save some of that rage for your bitchy little clueless-arsehole friends like gimp77 you might have had some credibility on that score"

Posted by: Tor | Jul 27 2014 16:04 utc | 83

tor - i don't see them attacking other posters to get their point across, although i have seen bevin waste his time on you as i pointed out earlier.

Posted by: james | Jul 27 2014 16:41 utc | 84

you need to get your eyes tested then

Posted by: Tor | Jul 27 2014 16:51 utc | 85

BKM traveled to Qatar on a private Qatari plane.
If anyone had a few illusions left

Posted by: Mina | Jul 27 2014 17:04 utc | 86

Al Qaeda kindred were funded and trained in part by the American-Israeli imperial forces which at that time wanted them to force the USSR out ofAfghanistan.
The conspiracy cranks believe they were still under full operative control of the Empire on 9-11-2001.
And if they could get away it, and found it convenient, they would insist that Hamas was still under full operative control of Israel when Israel used it to launch the Gazan war.

Thank God they would rather be quintessentially inconsistent than transparently tin foil.

They were assuring everyone in 2003 Iran would be under Zionist-friendly Shah-like control long since by now, due to the Formidable Seamless Garment of Successful Conspiracy. Iraq? Rolled over nice and easy by 2004. Then onto Iran by the invincible American-Israeli military.

Being a Formidable Conspiracy crank means never having to say you're wrong.....kind of like the Jehovah's Witnesses and Hal Lindsay types taking all their unfulfilled predictions off the book list for neophyte hopeful proselytes.

Posted by: truthbetold | Jul 27 2014 19:15 utc | 87

The conspiracy cranks believe they were still under full operative control of the Empire on 9-11-2001.

well you geniuses have yet to provide a single bit of proof that that original relationship changed in ANYWAY

They were assuring everyone in 2003 Iran would be under Zionist-friendly Shah-like control long since by now, due to the Formidable Seamless Garment of Successful Conspiracy. Iraq?


Who was doing that?

Why do need to invent nonsense?

All a real genius such as yourself would need to do would be to provide some proof that the relationship changed. Where did it change? When? (You're not gonna say "Syria!" now are ya? And please, not "Iraq!" either, that would just be too ridiculous, even for you)

come on genius - tell us all about it.

Posted by: Tor | Jul 27 2014 19:34 utc | 88

Ron Suskind interviewing Karl Rove:

The aide said that guys like bevin were "in what we call the reality-based community," which he defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from their judicious study of discernible reality." ... "That's not the way the world really works anymore," he continued. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while bevin's studying that reality—judiciously, as he will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which he can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors…and bevin, and all the people like him, will be left to just study what we do."

The Powers That Be will destroy and murder with impunity next year, and the year after. Get angry, bevin.

Posted by: ess emm | Jul 27 2014 19:34 utc | 89

To idiots who for example believe that it was intentional that the thousands of US troop lives and limbs lost (not the majority as Bush claimed, but a significant minority) in Iraq to insurgent jihadists and the US officers ignorant or complicit in the grand conspiracy, no proof will do.
Blowback, baby. Blowback for a corrupt, Zionist dominated but most informidable conspiracy.

Posted by: truthbetold | Jul 27 2014 20:12 utc | 90

The premise that Truther conspiracy propaganda makes people angry or angrier and more likely to hit the streets rather than makes them defeatist
is held only by the Truthers themselves. The people will stay apathetic until economic and military Collapse....brought on by blowback/overextension/failed conspiracy. The Truthers themselves, generally, are more likely to be among the agoraphobic paranoid when the shtf.

Posted by: truthbetold | Jul 27 2014 20:22 utc | 91

so, no, despite your frequent repetitive loud insistance that the relationship somehow fundamentally changed" at somepoint in the past, you are unable provide us with any info at all, not even a mere inkling, as to when and where that might have happened

So basically we're just supposed to take your word for it: "Guys, it all changed, . . . really, you have to believe me, 'cos I KNOW what I'm talking about.

I got the inside skinny on the ISI, dudes. I'm the MAN!!"


Got that.

that was very instructive, for someone out there, I'm sure . . . . thanks . . .

Posted by: Dear Mr Genius | Jul 27 2014 20:25 utc | 92

Ron Suskind interviewing Karl Rove:

The aide said that guys like bevin were "in what we call the reality-based community," which he defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from their judicious study of discernible reality." ... "That's not the way the world really works anymore," he continued. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while bevin's studying that reality—judiciously, as he will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which he can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors…and bevin, and all the people like him, will be left to just study what we do."

Doesn't really matter how many times you show that quote to pseuds like Mr Genius above - the dumb fu*kers STILL won't actually ever fully understand what it might mean

Posted by: Dear Mr Genius | Jul 27 2014 20:29 utc | 93

Being lectured to, in a derisory fashion, about "Truthers!!", by a genius going by the name of "truthbetold"?


ya can't BUY that sort of cluelessness, it has to be allowed to develop naturally

Posted by: Priceless | Jul 27 2014 20:38 utc | 94

I don't have to be "loud"---by your own admission, your own propaganda has failed the still slumbering public, (which is already demoralized
and antiwar...due to insurgent resistance imperial overstretch and faltering economy.)

You're the one who has to gin yourself into a loud cyber temper tantrum to maintain the facade. Not worth it. Won't motivate
one reader to hit the streets.

The jihad groups are now diffused, by the infer a seamless garment between ISIS and Al Qaeda is another simpleton's errand.

Posted by: truthbetold | Jul 27 2014 20:39 utc | 95

The jihad groups are now diffused, by the way

oh "diffused", eh?

anyhoo, back to that relationship change you don't want to talk about

Where and when?

Posted by: Priceless | Jul 27 2014 20:43 utc | 96

maybe you are saving it for your blockbuster book on the subject?

"The confessions of an ISIL insider"?

Posted by: Priceless | Jul 27 2014 20:45 utc | 97

Ya don't really get the whole "4th Gen warfare" thingy, do ya?

Posted by: Priceless | Jul 27 2014 20:47 utc | 98

b, did you notice the thread has got to he@$!

Posted by: crone | Jul 27 2014 22:15 utc | 99

Chosen People rule! Netanyahoo lies, murders and not surprisingly is supported by the US and UN regimes.

Posted by: brian | Jul 27 2014 22:24 utc | 100

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