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July 22, 2014

Hamas Win Leaves Netanyahoo and U.S. Position In Shambles

Hamas just won a major victory. The U.S. airlines Delta, USAir and United have suspended indefinitely all flights to and from Israel. This after a rocket fired from Gaza exploded somewhere near the Ben Gurion Airport in Tel Aviv. After MH-17 came down in Ukraine the sensitivity of possible flight casualties during a conflict has dramatically increased. No airline wants to be the next to loose a plane to some errant missile. This practically closes the only international airport Israel has and will increase the pressure on Israel to accept some of Hamas' conditions for a ceasefire.

That will still take a while though and the slaughter will for now continue. Neither Hamas and the population of Gaza nor the Netanyahoo government and the people in Israel are so far willing to offer any concessions. On both sides the people push their governments to continue the fighting.

There is also no real international pressure for a ceasefire yet. Kerry and his UN clown Ban Ki Moon are in the region and are trying to find a solution that favors Israel. But there is no solutions without accepting Hamas' demands. They will have little luck to find some united Arab push for a compromise or to pressure Hamas. The only parties that could negotiate on behalf and in support of Hamas are Qatar and Turkey. But the Turkish soon-to-be-dictator Erdogan is no longer talking to Obama and has other problems.  The chickens are coming home to roost as "smugglers" from the Islamic State have started to kill Turkish soldiers on Turkey's border to Syria. Qatar is disliked by all other Arab Gulf states plus especially by Egypt for its support of the Muslim Brotherhood.

But Egypt is the other country next to Israel and the U.S. that will have to make concessions to Hamas. The wide opening of the Rafah border that is needed to lift the siege on Gaza can only be done when Egypt fully agrees. Kerry will want to achieve that but when he met the Egyptian dictator Sisi today he and his stuff were made to undergo security controls before entering the palace in Cairo. That was a significant snub and more were likely made during the talks.

The U.S. is simply no longer in a position where it can effectively create political solutions in the Middle East. As Chas Freeman analyzes the Obama administration has, over the recent years, managed to make the mess in the Middle East even messier than it usually is. Its addiction to Israel (and its utter hypocrisy) has ruined its own position:

From the outset, Israel used the “peace process” as a distraction while it created facts on the ground in the form of illegal settlements. Israeli expansionism and related policies have now made Israel’s peaceful coexistence with the Palestinians– and, thus, with Israel’s Arab neighbors – impossible. The United States created the moral hazard that enabled Israel to put itself in this ultimately untenable position. Forty years of one-sided American diplomacy aimed at achieving regional and international acceptance for Israel have thus perversely produced the very opposite – increasing international isolation and opprobrium for the Jewish state.

We will now “cover Israel’s back” at the United Nations as its ongoing maltreatment and intermittent muggings of its captive Arab population complete its international delegitimization and ostracism. We will pay a heavy political price for this stand globally, in the Middle East, and very likely in escalating terrorism against Americans abroad and at home. It may satisfy our sense of honor. But it more closely resembles assisted suicide than a strategy for the survival of Israel and our own position in the Middle East.

With Ben Gurion closed Netanyahoo will soon have to somehow end the war he started, with U.S. support, for no sensible reason. His political position in Israel will then be very weak and even more crazy people than him will come to rule. That again will further reduce the political might of the United States and the region may then, left to itself, finally be able to find a new sustainable balance.

Posted by b on July 22, 2014 at 16:49 UTC | Permalink

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@ Alexno #84: the folks you are talking about (Philistines) were neither arabs nor jews and are long extinct. That is a hard fact. Todays residents on BOTH sides are mostly imported and both are puppets of the empire.

Posted by: T2015 | Jul 24 2014 9:06 utc | 101

Whoever you are in #100, again: there is neither Israel nor Palestine and you are talking utter nonsense, backed by absolutely nothing except your wishful thinking and cheap disinfo.

Posted by: T2015 | Jul 24 2014 9:07 utc | 102

T2015

"utter nonsense"

says the brainwashed guy saying there is no occupation of Palestine. Now GTFO!

Posted by: Anonymous | Jul 24 2014 10:58 utc | 103

Dude, there is no Palestine, it is as much a fictional product as is the masonic Israel mafia. Except for the 1-2 million original Arabs, Jews, Druze etc. it is of course occupied, BOTH by the Empire running "Israel" and by loads of Arabs imported by the Brits, Germans and Mufti of Jerusalem times etc.

It is the Syrian Arab Republic if you want to be correct about it. Where so-called Palestineans are really at home and where actual Jews (not their satanic leadership/"elites" and the imported Russians) would also be free and equal.

Both Hamas (a branch of the Muslim Brotherhood, the little culture club located in London nowadays) and the masonic israeli mafia are foreign puppets abusing the People, on BOTH sides. The Arabs suffer more because of the way less firepower, but rest assured that in the opposite case, their handlers would act just the same towards Jews and Christians. In any case, little guy ends up as canon fodder, in this case for the coastal interests of BP in the area.

Isreal should end up as a UN-controlled are for the globalists and Vatican gets the oversight of the holy sites. The one-world mafia can build their third temple and world government and the people there will get the finger. Those plans are public domain, tried several times over the years, read the press archives of your choice, google it.

As for the invention of Palestine, I refer you to some competent history books in the next best library. Same goes for the invention of Israel, it was basically the same next-gen british clique that did it, Lord Balfour managed the thing. Then you shold look deeper at Hamas too, who are in no way representing the people in Gaza and west bank, but are a british/saudi terror organization just like AlQaida was ran by the CIA. Same methods, similar players.

Posted by: T2015 | Jul 24 2014 16:23 utc | 104

And of course Hamas provoked Israel, knowing that the mafia there will answer with way more fire and kill a bunch of innocent people. My gut is feeling is even that this was planned and orchestrated by the pawns from both sides in order to produce this massacre that will kick-start the end of Israel. That seems almost unavoidable now.

Posted by: T2015 | Jul 24 2014 16:28 utc | 105

T2015
Yeah Palestinians and Israel got together to kill each other in a conspiracy.
Take your meds and gtfo moron.

Posted by: Anonymous | Jul 24 2014 16:40 utc | 106

Respectfully, one thing I hope Arabs don't forget is how their 'leaders' lined up almost entirely behind Israel. Here's a pro-Israel source, but he tells the pre-July 18 story accurately:

Most important, Israel was facing an enemy, Hamas, that was almost universally despised. Egypt, always central to Israel-Hamas mediation, had been pouring contempt on Hamas throughout the crisis. Palestinian Authority leader Mahmoud Abbas had loudly condemned attacks on Israel during the crisis, once at a June 18 meeting of Islamic foreign ministers in Saudi Arabia and again when Hamas started bombarding Israel. When Egypt’s July 14 cease-fire proposal was accepted by Israel and rejected by Hamas, the Islamist organization’s support was reduced to rogue-state Iran, Islamist Turkey and the emirate of Qatar.

Qatar launched its own cease-fire initiative, which included the preconditions Hamas had demanded — freeing prisoners, opening borders, putting the Gaza-Egypt border under international supervision — but nobody endorsed it. The Arab League, led by Saudi Arabia, lined up formally behind Egypt — and by implication, Israel. The Jewish state had never had more sympathy in the Arab world for its defense needs.

Posted by: fairleft | Jul 24 2014 22:08 utc | 107

Note the racist headline, "They're Arabs, so that doctor could be lying!"

Israeli soldiers kill three in West Bank clash, Palestinians say RAMALLAH, West Bank — Reuters Published Thursday, Jul. 24 2014, 6:12 PM EDT

Israeli soldiers shot and killed three Palestinian protesters and wounded about 100 on Thursday in confrontations with several thousand people demonstrating in the occupied West Bank against a 17-day-old Israeli offensive in Gaza, Palestinian medical officials said.

The Israeli military confirmed troops had used “riot dispersal means” against protesters who threw rocks and firebombs at them and blocked a road with burning tyres. ...

A doctor at Ramallah hospital said three people died of bullet injuries, including a man in his 20s who was injured in the head, while at least 100 other people were treated for various injuries after the protest.

Posted by: fairleft | Jul 24 2014 22:31 utc | 108

"Yeah Palestinians and Israel got together to kill each other in a conspiracy.
Take your meds and gtfo moron.

Posted by: Anonymous | Jul 24, 2014 12:40:43 PM | 106"

Where dide I say anything like that? You're making stuff up as you go. Stop lying and twisting my words out of context.

I explicitly referred to SHILLS on both sides, while saying that both PEOPLES will take the burden.

But of course this answer is futile, you can't use real historical facts and real-world experience when you're talking to a lowlife troll, so I'll stop bothering in your case. Your task here is not a serious discussion, but disruption.

Posted by: T2015 | Jul 25 2014 6:14 utc | 109

"Respectfully, one thing I hope Arabs don't forget is how their 'leaders' lined up almost entirely behind Israel. Here's a pro-Israel source, but he tells the pre-July 18 story TOTALLY INaccurately:


Posted by: fairleft | Jul 24, 2014 6:08:17 PM | 107"

Corrected the last bit for you. the sympathy for Israel is certainly not the reason for that, but the simple fact that all of the involved Arabs KNOW first-hand that Hamas (a branch Muslim Brotherhood, currently sponsored via Qatar) is a british fifth column and there to destroy them all eventually, after they're done with Israel and Egypt. Fortunately Egypt was able to stop them on time, but I doubt Israel will make it in the long run.

The american support for the crazy jihadis is now pretty much in the open (read the last "peace plan" as proposed by Kerry), they are to become the successor puppets to the british masonic mafia of "Israel", which is past its usefulness now.

Posted by: T2015 | Jul 25 2014 11:47 utc | 110

And again: whoever equals the terrorists from Hamas with the palestinian Arabs, deserves a hard slap in the face. This unmaskes that person as an imperial shill (or an idiot otherwise).

Posted by: T2015 | Jul 25 2014 11:49 utc | 111

T2015
Hamas isnt palestinians now? The only shill are you. One day you say leftists are nazis the next day you say there is no palestinians. You get paid to say these things?

Posted by: Anonymous | Jul 25 2014 11:53 utc | 112

crone @ 86
Just copy the link from the browser window when you're viewing that video.
MOA does the formatting automatically, which is really convenient.
peace

Posted by: david | Jul 27 2014 12:53 utc | 113

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