Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
July 11, 2014

Gaza: The Media Coverage

This Latuff cartoon is spot on:

There have, as of now, 103 people killed in Gaza with more than 700 people injured. Most of them are women, children and elderly. 200 houses were completely destroyed and more than 1,500 houses partially damaged.

On the Israeli side no one was killed and one person was injured after a gas station, allegedly, was hit and exploded.

About 800 Israeli bombs have hit Gaza while some 400 unguided missiles were launched from Gaza onto Israel proper. A Israeli Defense Force spokesperson boosted that the IDF hits the densely populated Gaza every 4 1/2 minutes and would continue to do so.

But, despite reporting in Jewish media that Netanyahoo obviously planned and started this war, main stream media continue to depict the Jewish side as the sole victim of this very one sided conflict.

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Well, it seems that israel will not be stopped by anyone this time. No one care about palestinians today.

Posted by: Anonymous | Jul 11 2014 12:32 utc | 1

What do you expect the MSM to say? They are very well aware of the crimes of the Israelis but they themselves are so deeply embedded with racist, colonialist, doublethink that it would be intolerable to admit. What I wonder at is, how can it be that we few - we happy few - are seemingly clear of it?

Posted by: rackstraw | Jul 11 2014 12:41 utc | 2

2

I have also wondered that many times, hopefully someone here can answer it because I dont know, an easy response would be: we dont watch msm?

Posted by: Anonymous | Jul 11 2014 12:47 utc | 3

The only good thing that can come out of this monstrosity,is the mask of deception falling from the monsters face,and exposing its true colors of bellicosity,greed and malice to the world.
But the dead,I imagine,wish they were still living,instead of fodder for Israeli psyche.

Posted by: dahoit | Jul 11 2014 12:57 utc | 4

lol

Posted by: Paty Kerry | Jul 11 2014 13:08 utc | 5

@2 & 3,

I had parents who taught me to think critically. When I was 12, we traveled to Peru, Bolivia, Ecuador, & Panama, something that exposed me to the realities of the Third World, insights from which there was no going back. I saw for myself, & lies about that world no longer worked. And then the Vietnam War cemented this critical thinking still further

Posted by: JerseyJeffersonian | Jul 11 2014 13:15 utc | 6

Yeah, but the apartheid genocidal Israeli scum really DON'T have very much power in the West what with all of the resounding calls of condemnation and castigation of their actions in the MSM, huh?

Yup, even though you can even find Western MSM criticism of the war criminal US at times - albeit infrequently, when it comes to the apartheid genocidal state of Israel there's nary a fucking word. Of course, there will be the useful idiots here who claim that what we are all witnessing ONCE A FUCKING AGAIN is NOT the culmination/manifestation of the Zionist/supremacist ideology of the apartheid genocidal Israelis who have completely subdued/hijacked US/Western foreign policy but really some clandestine move on the part of the American puppet-master to further its own ends, right?

Yup, just like it's NOT the continued roll-out of the Zionist Yinon Plan/Clean Break strategies vis a vis ISIS/Iraq it's also NOT the continued extermination of the Palestinian people from land that the apartheid genocidal Israelis have stolen over the last 50+ years. No way, brother.

Hmmm, maybe Juan "Knife-Ass Raping" Cole can tell us all how this genocidal slaughter is really just the merest shawdow-play of the underlying geopolitical complexities of the preceived situation and how peons SHOULDN'T just observe/take the actions at face-value and realize that what we are witnessing in real-time is the Zionist agenda via the US made incarnate.

The apartheid genocidal Israeli narrative concerning the Palestinians "terrorists" and their "rockets" hasn't changed one fucking bit in AT LEAST 15 years.

Gee, it seems that the war criminal American GWOT narrative has ALSO NOT changed in the same time period.

Wow, it's like we're all caught/frozen in a seemingly deliberate Spectacle of fucking nonsense, one that attempts to gift wrap deliberate war crimes in an cloak of peon digestibility, huh? Nah.

But I guess we should probably look at the situation afresh, with new eyes so that we can really understand the nuances THIS TIME around, right?

Jesus Fucking Christ.

Fuck.

Posted by: JSorrentine | Jul 11 2014 13:15 utc | 7

Sorry for always quoting "spiegel" but well, it's like the official US propaganda-news-source and at least one can partially guess their aims from what the spiegel writes.

now, rockets have been fired (at israel) from lebanon, too

I have a certain guess as to where this is leading. IS closing the Syrian supply lines from Iraq and Iran and RAEL going "north" for Hezbollah and Assad?

Posted by: peter radiator | Jul 11 2014 13:44 utc | 8

Here's an examination of the hasbara behind ISIS.

Wait a second, you mean that the apartheid genocidal state of Israel is fucking LYING and making up fucking stories about ISIS? Now why would they do that?

Gee, come to think of it, the apartheid genocidal Israelis and their Zionist whores worldwide have been making up QUITE A FEW fucking fairy tales as of late, huh?

Not only everyone's favorite Hamas/Lebanon rocket terror tale but the bullshit narrative about those settlers' "kidnapping" who weren't really kidnapped at all but were known to be dead within hours of their having gone missing. Someone's bucking for a promotion at HQ!

Oh well. If 9/11 and assorted events have taught us all anything it's that no matter how fucking ludicrous and fantastical WE KNOW the official Zionist narratives to be there just HAS to be a golden nugget of truth buried deep deep down inside of it all and in which we can all hang our consciences/trust on, right?

Posted by: JSorrentine | Jul 11 2014 14:09 utc | 9

the media?

Media is OWNED by Jews. (Please don't tell me that I should have said Zionists... they may be zionists, but they are definitely Jews.)

Posted by: crone | Jul 11 2014 14:11 utc | 10

Jews account for at least a third of the 400 richest Americans. That is the basic source of the lobby's power.
This is obvious to anybody examining the annual Forbes compilation of the 400 wealthiest citizens.

And Jews are even more heavily represented in the upper echelons of Wall Street, banking, and the media.

The media circus over the murder of 3 Jewish teenagers in Israel perfectly reflects their distorted priorities.

Posted by: Andoheb | Jul 11 2014 14:38 utc | 11

Israel has a right to defend itself, you know.

Posted by: Bill H | Jul 11 2014 14:41 utc | 12

Adding:

And the best part about intrepid Internet "sleuths" figuring out that ONCE AGAIN that the fantastical Zionist narratives promulgated in our midst are nothing but fucking horseshit?

It highlights the fact that we're ALSO supposed to fucking believe that the entire US/Western intelligence community and Establishment WHOLEHEARTEDLY BELIEVES these same nonsensical Zionist narratives involving national security blah blah blah - and which inevitably lead to the commission of horrendous war crimes - but which are easily debunked by said Internet "sleuths" spending - oh, I don't know - 5 fucking minutes online.

Yup, even though a goddamned 6 year old can nowadays see that the truth only accidentally comes out of TPTB's mouths concerning any and all events surrounding foreign policy - but especially the GWOT - I shouldn't think it a tad odd that NO ONE IN ANY POSITION OF INTELLIGENCE/POWER/INFLUENCE has the wherewithal to do 5 FUCKING MINUTES of web-surfing to come to an informed opinion, see through this obvious fucking nonsense and state their case?

And then people wonder WHY I think that Zionists dominate US foreign policy?

It's because if us PEONS knows it's all fucking bullshit then members of the US intelligence community ALSO know it's bullshit but CAN'T/DON'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT!!!!!

Or maybe you sleuths think that EVERYONE is just THAT "incompetent" in the intel community? Give me a fucking break.

Continuing:

Yup, in effect, we are all basically being asked/forced to pretend by TPTB that the Internet just DOESN'T EXIST because that's what THEY are pretending!!!!!

Genius, huh? I'm sure this was one of the FIRST projects for the guys at Rand et al before the Internet went "public": how do control/create bullshit narratives in the "Digital Age"?

Solution: pretend the Internet - and all the refutative information it might contain - doesn't exist and then quickly move on to the NEXT nonsensical horseshit narrative.

People have often opined that TPTB don't really seem to even be TRYING to cover their tracks anymore when bullshitting but that's the wrong take. They NECESSARILY - due to the Internet - HAVE to try and keep telling so many lies so quickly while they wait for events - manufactured or real - speed their course and change the focus of the narrative for them.

Huzzah.

Posted by: JSorrentine | Jul 11 2014 15:01 utc | 13

The palestinians use slingshots against young men armed to the teeth. How dare they throw stones at these poor children of eastern europeans.
Yes, that is true....I remember when as a young muchacho in the indoctrination camps they call high schools in USA I attended once long, long ago....I met the very first jews in my long, long life....I had always been very interested in these people as a result of my christian upbringing.
I asked the jews if they were middle easterners, they looked at me as if I was an alien, which in a sense I was....I was a legal alien in the country.
So my fellow young contemporary answers me saying that he was indeed not of middle eastern background....But of eastern european origin!!!
I was confused, I did not know in my young ignorance that jews don't consider themselves a 'race", inspite of all the evidence to the contrary.
Nor do many align themselves right away with zionism, to be fair as well. Many of them are highly offended and shocked at the level of violence and degradation of the human condition that occurs in the land of Abrahams descendants.
However the ones that do, some of those are in the IDF, those are the sick bastards that pull the trigger and push the "fire" button to not simply kill 3 youths like the ones sadly killed by some monster.
No those israelis or children of eastern europeans have blotted out the existence of thousands and stunted the dreams and aspirations of thousands more.

Patetico y triste...

Posted by: Fernando | Jul 11 2014 15:09 utc | 14

Andoheb@11,

Get big money out of US elections and US support for Israel will shrivel to an appropriate level.

Posted by: Cynthia | Jul 11 2014 15:45 utc | 15

reports in al akhbar are good.
http://english.al-akhbar.com/node/20496

Posted by: bevin | Jul 11 2014 15:51 utc | 16

@Bill H
true enough, isn't it funny that Gaza does not have that same right?
nice site you got. good stuff

Posted by: dan of steele | Jul 11 2014 15:56 utc | 17

bevin

So Russia also support the war by Israel. Didnt expect that.

Posted by: Anonymous | Jul 11 2014 16:00 utc | 18

So the IDF has a graphic out that "shows" how Hamas turns regular homes into - OMFG!!! - "terroriums".

Once again, for comparison, OBL's Fortress of Doom.

Posted by: JSorrentine | Jul 11 2014 16:07 utc | 19

the cartoon sums up the media coverage very well.. sometimes a picture conveys much more then many words.

Posted by: james | Jul 11 2014 16:11 utc | 20

a prophet of truth you are JSorretine. Kudos to your commitment and much respect

Posted by: Anonymous | Jul 11 2014 16:33 utc | 21

Through hubris and mendacity, Israhell destroy's itself. Not even the "CHOSEN PEOPLE" or the "EXCEPTIONAL AMERICANS" are above the spiritual laws. Karma cometh.

Posted by: Anonymous | Jul 11 2014 16:46 utc | 22

Israeli news niw say invasion may be near.

Posted by: Anonymous | Jul 11 2014 17:08 utc | 23

Cynthia

Taking big money out of politics would be a big step forward, but until Zionist domination of banking, Wall Street and the media is broken or at least sharply reduced we will continue to be in serious trouble as a nation.

Posted by: Andoheb | Jul 11 2014 17:42 utc | 24

ABC-presstitute Sawyer even worse, what lying.
A perfect example is the zioshithead on the latest Crosstalk.
Or listen to the idf-spokeswoman Liby Vice (sic!) - hey, that
would be the right outfit for Jen Psaki :)
Latuff nailed it!

Posted by: slirs | Jul 11 2014 17:49 utc | 25

Such a cozy little circle here... all just one person with many nicks?


@crone:

"Joshua the Messiah said:

I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan (Revelation 2:9).

Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee (Revelation 3:9).

St. Paul—a Hebrew of the Hebrews—gave the following definition of a Jew:

For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God (Romans 2:28-29).

Most people who call themselves "Jews" today to not meet the Bible criterion of being a Jew. Therefore they must be LIARS and JEHOVAH promised that no liars would enter the Kingdom of Heaven:

For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. (Revelation 22:15)."

http://www.reformation.org/synagogue-of-satan.html
http://www.reformation.org/khazaria.html

Posted by: T2015 | Jul 11 2014 17:50 utc | 26

Another hard truth for the Saker and the rest of Putin's fanclub (not that there is anyone to defend, but if true, that stinks)
http://english.al-akhbar.com/node/20496
at 6 14 pm

v

Posted by: Mina | Jul 11 2014 18:03 utc | 27

To confirm JSorrentine's description of Juan "Knife-Ass Raping" Cole as a shameless bootlicker of the U.S./Zion warfare state sample the roll out of his latest manifesto, The New Arabs: How the Millennial Generation is Changing the Middle East on TomDispatch. It reminded me of watching a blackbird picking about for its breakfast in a pool of vomit.

Posted by: Mike Maloney | Jul 11 2014 18:25 utc | 28

Some great graphics at the Angry Arab today, in particular one which pairs photographs of a lynch mob in the States and Israeli barbarians in deckchairs cheering as homes in Gaza are bombed.

Also reports of Human Rights Watch, Amnesty, the Syrian "revolutionaries" in Qatar and others joining with Putin, Harper, Canada's fuhrer, and other shameless accomplices in child murder, on an industrial scale.

Posted by: bevin | Jul 11 2014 18:32 utc | 29

@ Mina, wrong link? What's Putin got to do with what's happening in Gaza?

Posted by: T2015 | Jul 11 2014 18:49 utc | 30

Pepe Escobar on ISIS. He links to an article by that "prodigy of wishful thinking" David Ignatius.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MID-01-110714.html

Posted by: bevin | Jul 11 2014 18:54 utc | 31

7

You only have to read the ZionElite-gatekeepered Breitbart.com blog and their Big Lie demonization of the Migras issue (but NOT the H-1B Wogs issue, so precious to Big Corp!) that the media has been used to turn the TeaParty into an insipid version of the KKK.

This ZionElitism media strategy was perfected by sending the Occupy Movement off to Wall Street, where nobody cared and NYPD made sure nothing was achieved. Their strategy found the prols' weak underbelly by sending the Tea Party off to WADC, where nobody noticed or cared. (As I've postulated, had Occupy occupied WADC in the tens of millions, and had TeaParty pulled their $100Bs out of Wall Street, then ZionElitism would have collapsed.)

Having broken the back of those two movements, now the ZionElite media have completed the conversion of Americans into a xenophobic reactionary police-state accepting Republican re-electing political tidal wave in November, and again in 2016, if we make it that far.

The Fourth Reich of One Thousand Years.

America is now firmly (and I believe as someone who had marched for Black Vote in 1964 and against Viet Nam / Cambodia / Laos after that) America is now firmly Rightist and Racist, in thrall to ZionElitism, in thrall to their Police State, a Hegemanic Stockholm Syndrome who despise themselves, who spit on the 'Losers', the 90,000,000 homeless and hopelessly unemployed Americans that the ZionElites in Mil.Gov.Fed are shoveling into the gas ovens.
Or would the ZionElites have them sell blood, and make Freedom soup from their bootstraps?

ZionElitism Gentrification has spread around the globe now, affecting every industrial society with their demand that 'Some pigs are more equal', and 'We just want peace and quiet' in their gated White-ish communities and $10Ms urban condos, 'Doing G-d's Work.'

Long story, short, don't expect anyone in the USA to do ANYTHING for the Palestinians.
As George W. Bush (is alleged to have) said, "You're all on your own now." (post-Sep11)

"We won, you lost. It's just business, get over it. Now GET OFF MY LAND!" The Chicago Way

Posted by: chip nikh | Jul 11 2014 23:36 utc | 32

Re Cole, anyone who like Cole says within his purportedly optimistic (from a liberal internationalist perspective) essay, that there is grounds for pessimism in the short AND "EVEN MEDIUM" term, has placed the balance of his analysis in profound doubt, or irrelevancy as it were, whether he realizes it or not.

When he apologizes for his sanctioning of the Libyan and Iraqi interventions, he might begin to restore a vestige of integrity and thus make any panoramic views he has worth considering.

Posted by: truthbetold | Jul 12 2014 0:13 utc | 33

"Yup, even though you can even find Western MSM criticism of the war criminal US at times - albeit infrequently, when it comes to the apartheid genocidal state of Israel there's nary a fucking word. Of course, there will be the useful idiots here who claim that what we are all witnessing ONCE A FUCKING AGAIN is NOT the culmination/manifestation of the Zionist/supremacist ideology of the apartheid genocidal Israelis who have completely subdued/hijacked US/Western foreign policy but really some clandestine move on the part of the American puppet-master to further its own ends, right?"

If the "American puppet-master" is composed of prevailing Anglo-Zionist blocs working together, this is a distinction without a difference.

Which is to say, if the Rumsfeld-Cheney-Cordesman oiligarch bloc of the Empire's
ruling Elite regards (correctly or incorrectly) Israel as, at the very least, more of a helper than a hindrance to their own aims, and if Dick Cheney,as an typical representative of the Anglo wing, would denounce the anti-Zionists or Israel critics here as "un-American" "anti-semites" sooner than he would seek even to checkmate Israel's dominant (or junior partner role if he sees it that way) role, again, it is a distinction without a difference.

Posted by: truthbetold | Jul 12 2014 0:37 utc | 34

so an airstrike on civilians MGHT be legal? UN not sure...
UN was in no such quandary over Libya and the alleged airstrike on civilian(never happened)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/11/un-human-rights-israel_n_5577645.html

Posted by: brian | Jul 12 2014 5:49 utc | 35

@Moon

"On June 29, an Israeli air attack on a rocket squad killed a Hamas operative. Hamas protested. The next day it unleashed a rocket barrage, its first since 2012. The cease-fire was over."

Maybe your should read the article you linked through to the end. Hamas started this latest war.

Posted by: Joel | Jul 12 2014 8:03 utc | 36

Joel

So when palestinians respond,..they started the war? Asylum next for you.

Posted by: Anonymous | Jul 12 2014 8:13 utc | 37

1. The sort of ter'rists Bibi likes to slaughter en masse and then gloat about.
(From Little things big things grow - unless exterminated by Bibi & the IOF Daleks)
http://www.vimeo.com/30349315

2. Bibi, Mark Regev, Tom Friedman and an MSM spin doctor saying sorry before being lynched outside the International Criminal Court.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY0ze7Ky5_k
(I ran all the way, just to say I'm Sorry)

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jul 12 2014 9:07 utc | 38

Israel Attacked Gaza on July 1st (THAT Started the Rocket Response)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pz8nLcFt0cI&list=PLfrlsC1yJ2dTzXK_KCYkz3iemxbA6QqJe

Posted by: Tom Murphy | Jul 12 2014 9:38 utc | 39

In Australia too,jews make up a substantial part of the wealthy 1%.and as a survey recently in Melbourne showed that of the 7 richest families there were 4 who were jews
They also exert great influence on governments
The present conservative one has a foreign minister who is a great zionist,as bad as in Canada...yet there are about 4/5 times as many moslems in Australia as there are jews....but the jews with their great wealth have much infuence in the media
Rupert Murdoch,a rabid zionist is one of their best friends and uses his papers to push the zionist case on every occasion

Posted by: Tom Skene | Jul 12 2014 12:49 utc | 40

5;Could you try that again,I couldn't hear you.
If you were implying that my words were redundant,and trivial,I agree,but what else can one say,as hope for the future is our only out.The nihilists are the enemy.
Of course the Israeli true face has been exposed repeatedly,but maybe the repeated drubbing reality gives them might have a cumulative effect on Americans,and wake them up.

Posted by: dahoit | Jul 12 2014 13:27 utc | 41

UN must urgently investigate war crimes in Israeli-Gaza conflict – Amnesty Intl
http://rt.com/news/172232-israel-gaza-amnesty-war-crimes/

And ukraine amnesty?

Posted by: Anonymous | Jul 12 2014 14:45 utc | 42

This is worth reading as sane people watch in horror the carnage unleashed on Gaza.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article39065.htm

This too, by John Pilger who is basically telling the story of how the "west" the Empire, like a fish, has rotted from the head. Having betrayed themselves, by prostituting their talents and privileged positions in their cowardice and greed, the degenerate clerisy-the intelligentsia, the academics, the pundits, the philosophers, the teachers, writers and artists- has become redundant. The Empire no longer has a brain, it survives on brute instincts, mindless repetition and momentum. Its days are numbered; it will not be mourned.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/07/11/on-israel-ukraine-and-truth/

Posted by: bevin | Jul 12 2014 17:09 utc | 43

Hamas reaffirms loud and clear that it belongs to the Moslem Brotherhood Rescue Front made up of Turkey and Qatar against Saudi Arabia's front made up of Egypt, Jordan and the UAE.

Exclusive: Hamas rules Egypt out as negotiator for a ceasefire

'Hamas has decided to rule Egypt out as a negotiator for a ceasefire, a senior source of the Islamic movement told the Middle East Eye.

He said that from now on, Hamas would only consider Turkey and Qatar as potential go-betweens with Israel. '
http://middleeasteye.net/news/exclusive-hamas-rules-egypt-out-negotiator-ceasefire-643526903#comments

Posted by: Virgile | Jul 12 2014 17:23 utc | 44

The Angry Arab again today carries grap[hics that everryone should see and share.
This lament is worth pondering too:
"What is suffocating about the US is that there are no dissenters in the US Congress or media. When I came to the US, there was a dozen US senators and congress people who dared criticize Israel. There are none now. As for the Washington Post and the New York Times: they both had individuals (Anthony Lewis and Marcy Mcgrory) who would voice criticisms of Israel. There are none now. Nicholas Kristoff is too busy rescuing native women from native men."

Posted by: bevin | Jul 12 2014 18:25 utc | 45

Take a look at this sh&t!
http://rt.com/news/172324-israel-watching-gaza-attacks/

From above link:
Allan Sørensen, the Middle Eastern correspondent for the Danish newspaper Kristeligt Dagblad, said that he took the image on Wednesday in Sderot, a city about two kilometers from Gaza.

'Sderot cinema. Israelis bringing chairs 2 hilltop in sderot 2 watch latest from Gaza. Clapping when blasts are heard.'

Israelis, what a bunch o sick degenerates!
This artificial state should never have been created.

In order to understand Zionism though, one has to examine jewish power, Jewish ethnocentrism, which pre-date zionism. This is a message, the brave Gilad Atzmon(himself Jewish, former israeli), has been trying to get across. Look up his book, 'The Wandering Who?'

Posted by: Luca K | Jul 12 2014 19:38 utc | 46

Do they feel the heat?
http://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-jordan-reluctant-host-u-led-syria-rebel-133245411.html

Posted by: Mina | Jul 12 2014 19:46 utc | 47

Why do you allow a hasbarist like T2015, b? One of the great advantages of MoA has always that we are not pestered by Israel propagandists.

Posted by: Alexno | Jul 12 2014 19:58 utc | 48

It's not a new idea that Gaza is like the Warsaw Ghetto. When I looked at the photos of Warsaw, it's very similar.

There's only one end for that sort of isolation, and that's destruction.

I don't know that it will happen this time, but soon. The Nazis destroyed the Warsaw Ghetto when they were losing. We are not far from that.

Posted by: Alexno | Jul 12 2014 20:23 utc | 49

Well now the Israeli army is telling everyone to "evacuate from northern Gaza" for the next 24 hrs.

Evacuate to where?

Aren't they surrounded by Israelis in lawn chairs?

Posted by: L Bean | Jul 12 2014 20:34 utc | 50

re 50. This is ghetto destruction stuff.

Posted by: Alexno | Jul 12 2014 20:38 utc | 51

Israel have showed again that they love violence and war. They are not sane, thats for sure.

Posted by: Anonymous | Jul 12 2014 20:41 utc | 52

Let's face it. We're going to be honouring the dead. Israel has decided, either this time, or the next one, to exterminate Gaza.

Obviously they hope to install a pliable regime, like Abu Mazin in the West Bank. Bombing is a funny way of going about it.

Posted by: Alexno | Jul 12 2014 20:55 utc | 53

Alexno

I fully agree.
Abu Mazin works with israel to crush Hamas now.

Posted by: Anonymous | Jul 12 2014 21:04 utc | 54

re 54. Abu Mazin works with israel to crush Hamas now.

I don't necessarily agree with that. Abu Mazin is pliable in either direction. He's reached an agreement with Gaza, but he won't fight to defend it.

Posted by: Alexno | Jul 12 2014 21:29 utc | 55

Alexno

Just google see what he said today. Hes a sick collaborator with Israel that now bomb the mentally disabled.
https://twitter.com/bencnn/status/487988533693792256

Posted by: Anonymous | Jul 12 2014 21:39 utc | 56

As horrific as is Israel's attempted genocide, the question is becoming not whether the Palestinians will survive but whether Israel can survive ...

The toxic crisis of Israeli society


As the death toll from the Israeli bombing of Gaza soared above 100, it was reported that the ultranationalist Israeli Jews who kidnapped 16-year-old Muhammad Abu Khdeir in East Jerusalem last week murdered him by pouring gasoline down this throat and setting him on fire.

There is a close connection between the violence being carried out by the Israeli government against the defenseless population in Gaza and the emergence of fascistic elements within Israel capable of such bestial crimes.

These events are symptomatic of an immense social and political crisis within Israel itself. The unending and escalating repression of the Palestinian people requires the mobilization of the most reactionary forces. Israeli society is immensely polarized. Broad sections of Israeli society oppose the brutality against the Palestinians as morally unjustifiable and politically bankrupt, but they find no representation in Israel's reactionary political establishment.

Every year, thousands of Israelis vote with their feet and leave the country.


... Jews themselves no longer have any stomach for Israel.

Posted by: john francis lee | Jul 12 2014 22:00 utc | 57

I didn't see what you meant in the twitter you quoted, but in general I agree with you that Abu Mazin plays both sides.

Posted by: Alexno | Jul 12 2014 22:00 utc | 58

Alexno

I didnt say he play both sides, you did. :)

I said that collaborates with israel, google what he said today, dont have a link right now.

Posted by: Anonymous | Jul 12 2014 22:16 utc | 59

What happened to the Arab(Saudi/Qatari) League that was not too long ago calling on NATO and the US to bomb Syria and Libya???

With such leaders, all Arabs are doomed forever. They're happy to send weapons to destabilize another Arab country but somehow remain silent when their fellow Arab is being murdered.

Posted by: Zico | Jul 12 2014 22:34 utc | 60

re 59. I'm sure Abu Mazin does collaborate. The question is whether Israel's present attack on Gaza will reduce it to the same status.

Posted by: Alexno | Jul 12 2014 22:35 utc | 61

"It's not a new idea that Gaza is like the Warsaw Ghetto. When I looked at the photos of Warsaw, it's very similar..... The Nazis destroyed the Warsaw Ghetto when they were losing. We are not far from that.."

Alexno @49. I think it was last year that the last commander of the Resistance in the ghetto, died. He was Jewish and refused to go to Israel, where he knew the enemy had relocated.

I wish that those who use this terrible massacre to blame "the Jews" realised how much comfort they are giving to the fascist government which is doing this to Gaza.

What Gilad Atzmon tells us about Jewish culture is nothing more than has been told of German, Italian, American and British cultures: in all of them there are pathologies which, in certain circumstances, lend themselves to exploitation by fascists. We have seen this happen in many cultures, European and Asian, for example in Indonesia, India and Burma. But in every case it takes the deliberate exploitation by fascists, of these moral infirmities, to produce massacres of which the obscenities in Gaza are a stereotype.

But there is nothing distinctly Jewish about it.This is a product of US arms and money, US support and encouragement and it is cheered by every quarter of Christendom.

Those who blame "the Jews" allow fascists like Netanyahu, the political descendants of the Hitler-Mussolini-Franco axis which protected them and helped them in their early days, before 1939, to expose not just the foolish critics but the victims in Gaza too as anti-semites.

Jews are not the enemy but fascists are and, in Israel, the fascists have found a rat hole, among racists and hysterical zealots, much to their liking. And much to the liking too of the powers behind them: the imperial ruling class, for whom they put on these savage shows "pour encourager les autres" such as the people of Ukraine, particularly those in the Donbass and Odessa.

Posted by: bevin | Jul 12 2014 22:43 utc | 62

The occupation will last forever, Netanyahu clarifies

When Abbas joins the next UN body and signs the next international treaty or makes his next move aimed at advancing statehood, remember why he is doing so.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Friday put to rest any lingering speculation or hopes that the long-comatose two-state solution might ever be revived.

All of a sudden, the prime minister’s refusal to discuss borders or maps in negotiations with the Palestinians makes sense. After all, why negotiate over a map you have no intention of ever compromising on?

“I think the Israeli people understand now what I always say: that there cannot be a situation, under any agreement, in which we relinquish security control of the territory west of the River Jordan,” Netanyahu said in a televised statement about the current Gaza military operation, the Times of Israel reported.

Yes. You read that right. Benjamin Netanyahu, Israel’s prime minister for the coming years (unless he is unseated by a political opponent who outflanks him from the right) said that there is no way he would ever pull the Israeli army out of the West Bank.

It’s official. Not that this should really surprise anyone, as long as Netanyahu is the Israeli prime minister the occupation is forever and there will be no sovereign Palestine.

con't at link

Posted by: crone | Jul 13 2014 0:52 utc | 63

@bevin #62:

Fascism has nothing to do with it. I guess you have never read the Old Testament. The idea of exterminating non-Jewish peoples, and that that is a good thing and something that God wants, is a major theme of the Hebrew Bible.

I wonder what happened to scalawag.

Posted by: Demian | Jul 13 2014 1:11 utc | 64

@bevin #62:

Fascism has nothing to do with it. I guess you have never read the Old Testament. The idea of exterminating non-Jewish peoples, and that that is a good thing and something that God wants, is a major theme of the Hebrew Bible.

@ALL:

When I include in a comment the name of a frequent commenter who has been silent lately, the comment does not get posted. I guess he has been silently banned.

Posted by: Demian | Jul 13 2014 1:13 utc | 65

@ 64

what the hell for? never mind, that was a rhetorical question.

OT again,

I believe Bibi is going to destroy Gaza...

mondo has an update, huge collection of articles ~ here

http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/essential-infrastructure-palestinians.html

following among info at link above:

Israeli commander declares “holy war” on Palestinians

"On the eve of a threatened ground invasion of Gaza, the commander of the Israeli army’s Givati Brigade has told his soldiers that they are engaged in a war to “wipe out” an “enemy who defames” God. In a Hebrew language letter to his troops published by Israel’s NRG news website and laden with bibilical references, Colonel Ofer Winter writes, “History has chosen us to be the sharp edge of the bayonet of fighting the terrorist enemy ‘from Gaza’ which curses, defames and abuses the God of Israel’s battles.” “We will act together forcefully and with resolve, with initiative and with deceptive tricks and aim for contact with the enemy. We will do everything to live up to the mission and wipe out the enemy and remove the threat from the Nation of Israel,” Winter’s letter adds. In Hebrew, the phrase used for “Nation of Israel” refers specifically and only to Jews."

West Bank & Jerusalem — the use of live fire appears to be increasing

Ministry of Health: ‘More than 1,000 Palestinians kidnapped since June 12′

75% of Gaza City without electricity after lines damaged by strikes

Gaza municipality facilities destroyed by airstrike

My heart is breaking... I am reading of so many horrors. One knows the whole planet is fucked when Israel is allowed to bomb civilians... and no one is even thinking of stopping him. UN says 77% of those killed so far are civilians. Egypt has closed the crossing, per Israel's order! - so the ambulances can't get out.

Posted by: crone | Jul 13 2014 1:25 utc | 66

Demian @ 64

I'll take your word about the Old Testament which has, indeed inspired many readers to commit genocidal sins-the American colonists being among them. The Boers in Africa had the same rationale for wiping out Africans living on attractive farmlands.

But I never really believed in either of their transparent excuses for plundering and enslaving others. My guess is that Netanyahu is not a believer in the Bible, any more than he follows the clear moral rules outlined in Judaism, he is simply stealing Palestinian land and using terror to drive them away and break their resistance.

I think that, like his father and Jabotinsky, whom they both admired so much, he is indeed a fascist, just as Likud, its predecessor Revisionist sects, and its political progeny are fascist. Of course he has that in common with many of the other anti-Bolsheviks that you admire, most of whom were also violently anti-semitic.

Posted by: bevin | Jul 13 2014 2:17 utc | 67

@bevin #66:

Your beloved Lenin and Trotsky made a significant contribution to fascism, by encouraging Ukrainian nationalism. If the Bolsheviks had treated Ukrainian nationalism properly, the middle of Europe wouldn't be infested with Nazis, as it is today.

From following the link that crone gave, I found this, which seems to undermine your claim that Judaism has nothing to do with the Israeli tendency to perpetrate genocide on the Palestinians:

Niv criticizes the “clumsy language which ridiculously combines recitations from the military and the religion but also the fact that on our part (not on their part; on our part) the wars against the Palestinians have turned from a national dispute to a holy war.”

Israel expert Dena Shunra, who translated Winter’s letter for The Electronic Intifada, notes that its appearance reflects the increasing participation of observant Orthodox Jews in the Israeli military. Shunra adds:

This demographic, often associated with the settlement movement, has displaced the traditional Kibbutz-member (militantly secular, socialist/communist leanings) in the Israeli army. Switching from nationalist rhetoric to the language of holy war is part of that transition. Another part is insisting that holy figures appear in battle to comfort/save the Jewish soldiers (and seeing them as Jewish, rather than Israeli). Reports of visitations by “Mama Rochelle” – the Matriarch Rachel, wife of Patriarch Jacob, traditionally buried in Bethlehem – have surfaced in the last few rounds of fighting (from 2002 onward). This changes the nature both of the wars and of the forces engaging in them, pushing towards a clash of civilizations.

Of course, having Iraq and Libya destroyed, and Syria under attack and occupation by jihadis, makes it easier for Israel to massacre Palestinians. As far as I can tell, no country is standing up for the Palestinians at present. Russia certainly isn't going to, at least until the Ukrainian crisis is resolved.

Posted by: Demian | Jul 13 2014 2:39 utc | 68

@bevin #66:

Also, I wouldn't say I "admire" any "anti-Bolsheviks". Yes, I was against Soviet power during the Cold War. Obviously, I see things differently now. Like Chalmers Johnson, I thought that the US was opposed to the USSR because the USSR was based on an oppressive ideology, but like him, I drew the obvious conclusion from the US not demilitarizing after the Soviet Union collapsed that US policy towards the USSR had been about world domination all along.

Also, as I've remarked before, I believe in the continuity of Russian history, so, like the Saker, I no longer look at the Soviet period as some sort of "dark age".

Posted by: Demian | Jul 13 2014 3:08 utc | 69

I think the observation that no one, absolutely no one, is standing up for the Palestinians is telling indeed.

It's up to the world's Jews to denounce Israel, in an organized fashion, or to get ready to live through what Germany and Germans have lived through these past six decades.

The reason that no one is standing up for the Palestinians is their - absurd - fear of the Israelis, and far too many people conflate Israelis - Zionists - with Jews.

The real Jews need to stand up and denounce the monsters in power in Israel. American Jews first and foremost. They are the only ones who sill be attended to by Western governments.

Posted by: john francis lee | Jul 13 2014 3:09 utc | 70

here's a Jew standing up for the Palestians:
Gaza’s Torment, Israel’s Crimes, Our Responsibilities

By Noam Chomsky

July 12, 2014 "ICH" - At 3am Gaza time, July 9, in the midst of Israel’s latest exercise in savagery, I received a phone call from a young Palestinian journalist in Gaza. In the background, I could hear his infant child wailing, amidst the sounds of explosions and jet planes, targeting any civilian who moves, and homes as well. He just saw a friend of his in a car clearly marked “press” blown away. And he heard shrieks next door after an explosion but can’t go outside or he’ll be a likely target. This is a quiet neighborhood, no military targets – except Palestinians who are fair game for Israel’s high tech US-supplied military machine. He said that 70% of the ambulances have been destroyed, and that by then over 70 had been killed, and of the 300 or so wounded, about 2/3 women and children. Few Hamas activists have been hit – or rocket launching sites. Just the usual victims.
It is important to understand what life is like in Gaza when Israel’s behavior is “restrained,” in between the regular manufactured crises like this one. A good sense is given in a report to UNRWA by Mads Gilbert, the courageous and expert Norwegian physician who has worked extensively in Gaza, also throughout the vicious and murderous Cast Lead operation. In every respect, the situation is disastrous. Just keeping to children, Gilbert reports: “Palestinian children in Gaza are suffering immensely. A large proportion are affected by the man-made malnourishment regime caused by the Israeli imposed blockage. Prevalence of anaemia in children <2yrs in Gaza is at 72.8%, while prevalence of wasting, stunting, underweight have been documented at 34.3%, 31.4%, 31.45% respectively.” And it gets worse as the report proceeds.

When Israel is on “good behavior,” more than two Palestinian children are killed every week, a pattern that goes back over 14 years. The underlying cause is the criminal occupation and the programs to reduce Palestinian life to bare survival in Gaza, while Palestinians are restricted to unviable cantons in the West Bank and Israel takes over what it wants, all in gross violation of international law and explicit Security Council resolutions, not to speak of minimal decency. And it will continue as long as it is supported by Washington and tolerated by Europe – to our everlasting shame

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article39071.htm

with a video

Posted by: okie farmer | Jul 13 2014 3:18 utc | 71

http://justworldnews.org/?p=3946 "Human Rights Watch, taking Israel’s side (again)" What a joke! Amnesty goes the everybody-is-to-blame route, but is significantly better.
http://www.amnesty.org/en/news/israelgaza-un-must-impose-arms-embargo-and-mandate-international-investigation-civilian-death-t

Posted by: brian | Jul 13 2014 3:43 utc | 72

dont aid israel
http://www.stopfundingisrael.com/companies.html

Posted by: brian | Jul 13 2014 3:45 utc | 73

Yup, and remember it's all just another lucky "coincidence" that this is all happening during the World Cup finals. Looks like the apartheid genocidal Israelis in Siderot have the real best seats in the house for their entertainment, huh? Funny, that they don't seem so scared of those 56 QUADRILLION Hamas missiles raining down on them.

Fucking madness.

Posted by: JSorrentine | Jul 13 2014 3:47 utc | 74

@okie farmer #70:

I think Chomsky's being a bit disingenuous when he admonishes Europe for tolerating Israel's treatment of Palestinians. I was struck when reading that Israeli officer's letter that it could have been written by Ukro-Nazis, just with "Ukraine" substituted for "Israel". So if Europe tolerates the genocide of Russians, why wouldn't it tolerate the genocide of Palestinians?

This is not to say that I don't feel that Europe has more of a moral obligation to do something about Israel's behavior than about the Ukraine's, simply because Novorossians do have someone looking after them, whereas Palestinians don't.

Posted by: Demian | Jul 13 2014 3:49 utc | 75

Jewish Voice for Peace sent out the email below today, from Eran Efrati. The headline was: “I’m asking you as an Israeli–we need you to tell Israeli leaders you won’t accept racism, you won’t accept human rights violations, you won’t accept occupation and the killing of civilians.”

The email links to a JVP letter that the organization plans to publish in Haaretz and the Forward. That letter opens with this statement:

We Must Face the Root Cause of this Crisis. Our unshakeable commitment to freedom and justice compels us to acknowledge that the crisis in Israel and Palestine is rooted in the idea that Jewish lives matter more than Palestinian lives.

con't http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/american-jewish-critical.html

Posted by: crone | Jul 13 2014 4:25 utc | 76

Demian, every week there are protest groups showing up in supermarkets in France handing out leaflets with lists of products in store that have come from Israel, or Israeli companies somewhere. The Europeans are not the problem, it's Europes leaders who are the problem. They are the ones who "tolerate the genocide of Palestinians"

Chomsky has higher aspirations for Europe than the US, I think because Social Europe worked so well, and if you watched the video he thinks Europe can move away from neoliberal globalization. I'm not sure he's right, as he said the ECB and the other EU unelected bodies rule the EZ, ie most of the EU.

Posted by: okie farmer | Jul 13 2014 5:36 utc | 77

palestinians have contributed to their problem with their support for the insurgents in syria....thus aiding israel

Posted by: brian | Jul 13 2014 5:42 utc | 78

JSore, would you make a comment on the incompetence of Hamas. It seems to me that they're the most incompetent terrorist group ever.

Posted by: okie farmer | Jul 13 2014 5:43 utc | 79

outdoing the nazis yet again: zionist jewish cruelty plumbs new depths

'As the death toll from the Israeli bombing of Gaza soared above 100, it was reported that the ultranationalist Israeli Jews who kidnapped 16-year-old Muhammad Abu Khdeir in East Jerusalem last week murdered him by pouring gasoline down this throat and setting him on fire.
There is a close connection between the violence being carried out by the Israeli government against the defenseless population in Gaza and the emergence of fascistic elements within Israel capable of such bestial crimes.
These events are symptomatic of an immense social and political crisis within Israel itself. The unending and escalating repression of the Palestinian people requires the mobilization of the most reactionary forces. Israeli society is immensely polarized. Broad sections of Israeli society oppose the brutality against the Palestinians as morally unjustifiable and politically bankrupt, but they find no representation in Israel's reactionary political establishment. Every year, thousands of Israelis vote with their feet and leave the country.'
etc
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/07/12/pers-j12.html

Posted by: brian | Jul 13 2014 5:44 utc | 80

@76
'The Europeans are not the problem, it's Europes leaders who are the problem. They are the ones who "tolerate the genocide of Palestinians";'

europeanas are the problem...as their leaders are supposed to be represennting the people...and if they arent, why dont the people rally against them? let them know they will be held accountable

Posted by: brian | Jul 13 2014 5:48 utc | 81

Europeans don't rally against their leaders for betraying them (European citizens), holding them accountable, so why should one expect Europeans to rally against their leaders for tolerating a non-European country brutally oppressing non-Europeans? The same goes for Americans, of course.

In this post-modern age, elites have figured out ways to disable democracy, so that citizens have little if any influence over what their governments do. The mechanisms for this in the US and in EU countries are different, but the effect is more or less the same.

Posted by: Demian | Jul 13 2014 6:17 utc | 82

This trumped up excuse to render a large proportion of Gaza uninhabitable can be traced back to 9/11. And 9/11 should be seen as a Neocon (i.e. pro-Israel) plot to dispense with the rule of law - both local law and international law.

9/11 was, despite its magnitude as a man-made disaster, merely a civil crime. It could and should have been treated as a police matter and investigated by law-enforcement authorities. The reason it wasn't is fairly obvious; "Israel's" plans for Middle East expansion and domination were proceeding too slowly and no amount of glitzy hardware could compensate for thwarted "Israeli" cupidity, mendacity and craven cowardice.

So deluded American, and other Western, military supremacists were easily duped, and bribed, into treating 9/11 as an act of war and responding militarily instead of treating 9/11 as a police investigation. Thus began the West's Fake War On Islam - for "Israel" which, as we've been brainwashed to believe, is The Jewish Statelet.

It is enlightening and embarrassing to recall how many previously illegal acts have been 'legalised' since the beginning of "Israel's" Fake War on Islam - all of which have been 'legal' in the violent Racist Supremacist statelet for decades before 9/11.

Here are just a few...

1. Arrest, imprisonment and torture of 'suspects' without charge or trial.
2. Suspects may be deemed to be guilty without seeking or producing any evidence.
3. People suspected of committing serious crimes may be summarily murdered/assassinated - coincidentally, and also illegally, eliminating the need for evidence or an investigation after the fact.
4. Friends, relatives, acquaintances and neighbours of a 'suspect' can be treated as if they, too, were guilty of the same crime as the 'suspect' from imprisonment all the way up to summary murder/execution.

"Israel" is not a beacon of anything. It is a moral and legal Black Hole.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jul 13 2014 6:54 utc | 83

In this post-modern age, elites have figured out ways to disable democracy, so that citizens have little if any influence over what their governments do. The mechanisms for this in the US and in EU countries are different, but the effect is more or less the same.

Totally agree Demian. I don't know if it's worse in US or EU, but I can't see any way to get democracy back in US, too much money in Politics. On the other hand I think it's slightly more possible inEurope because there's less money in politics here and there are parties of the left and right that could possibly derail the push for neoliberalising Europe.

If US and Europe continue on their push to establish fascism as their preferred "system", the planet is doomed because profits are more important than the enviornment or people. As someone on my listserve says, 'In the US fascism will be brought in by popular vote.' In Europe it's being established in by eliminating democracy - for now at least.

Posted by: okie farmer | Jul 13 2014 8:16 utc | 84

It’s official. Not that this should really surprise anyone, as long as Netanyahu is the Israeli prime minister the occupation is forever and there will be no sovereign Palestine.


Posted by: crone | Jul 12, 2014 8:52:53 PM | 63


Oh it's been "official" enough since 1967 when they brought the fascist Menachim Begin and his fascist Likud back into the fold

but it has in reality always been the plan - there never really was any other plan by the ZioNazis

Other Zio-Nazi statements made long before 1948

Yosef Weitz, a prominent Zio-Nazi and vocal advocate of Ethnic Cleansing, wrote in 1941:

    "The land of Israel is not small at all, if only the Arabs were removed [Ethnically Cleansed], and its frontiers enlarged a little, . . [Obviously he is talking about Military expansion and Ethnic Cleansing once again] to the north up to the Litani [River] [in Lebanon - clearly French Mandate Territory, NOT British Mandate, so not covered under the "Balfour Declaration"], and to the east including the Golan Heights . . . . . . with the Arabs [Ethnically Cleansed] to northern Syria and Iraq .. . . . . . We will not live here with Arabs."

Israel Zangwill, a prominent early Zionist, who had visited Palestine in 1897 and clearly was aware of the demographics there, stated:

    "Palestine proper has already its inhabitants. The pashalik of Jerusalem is already twice as thickly populated as the United States, having fifty-two souls to the square mile, and not 25% of them Jews ... [We] must be prepared either to drive out by the sword the [Arab] tribes in possession as our forefathers did or to grapple with the problem of a large alien population" [Zangwill is of course being utterly dishonest here - the pre-existing local inhabitants were clearly NOT an "alien" population in Palestine]

Another prominent Zioinst called Hahman Syrkin, who was a founder of "Socialist" Zionism, published in 1898 "The Jewish Question and the Socialist Jewish State" [completely oxymoronic title]. He stated:

    "Palestine thinly populated, in which the Jews constituted today 10 percent of the population, must be evacuated for the Jews."

In October 1882, Validimir Dubnow, one of the earliest Zionist pioneers in Palestine, wrote to his brother articulating the ultimate goals of the Zionist movement:

    "The ultimate goal ... is, in time, to take over the Land of Israel and to restore to the Jews the political independence they have been deprived of for these two thousand years ... The Jews will yet arise and, arms in hand (if need be), declare that they are the masters of their ancient homeland."

Also in 1882 Ben-Yehuda and Yehiel Michal Pines, two of the earliest Zionist pioneers in Palestine, wrote describing the indigenous Palestinians:

    "... There are now only five hundred [thousand] Arabs, who are not very strong, and from whom we shall easily take away the country if only we do it through stratagems [and] without drawing upon us their hostility before we become the strong and populous ones."

( Ben-Yehuda and Yehiel Michal Pines seem to view Jewish people as "clever and devious")

No honest person could continue to claim that Zionists were in anyway unclear in their intentions, before 1948, to not only grab as much land as possible by Military means (i.e: Killing people) but also to Ethnically cleanse that land, as much as possible, of it's Palestinian/"Arab" inhabitants.

Posted by: BLOCKQUOTE | Jul 13 2014 8:19 utc | 85

crone

How are they "imcompetent"?

Posted by: Anonymous | Jul 13 2014 8:55 utc | 86

Hamas is a cancerous growth in the palestinian people whose bankrupt policies have caused them untold misery in the gaza.they will be cutout and gaza will be rebuilt

Posted by: groupie | Jul 13 2014 9:19 utc | 87

It is no surprise that Israel took this opportunity: they want to bring Hezbollah in to have the perfect excuse to raze Lebanon and Syria. It is certainly not Hamas who kidnapped the 3 Israelis, rather anyone who was instrumented for that to happen.
And the Rolex-caliph has not said anything on the slaughter in Gaza? At least he fits the typical features of "Arab rulers"...

The Arab league has scheduled an "urgent meeting" last week for this coming monday. As usual nothing will come out of it.

Posted by: Mina | Jul 13 2014 10:45 utc | 88

... I can't see any way to get democracy back in US ...

Posted by: okie farmer | Jul 13, 2014 4:16:23 AM | 83


The only way I can see it happening is ... just to do it ... uspvp.org. Waiting for some variation on 'the system will right itself' is just not going to happen.

It seems certainly to be the case that the US government has become destructive of the ends - life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness - it was founded to further, and that it is our right ... our responsibility ... to alter it, re-laying its foundation on such principles and re-organizing its powers in such form as to us shall seem most likely to effect our safety and happiness.

The problem is we are not actors in the US, just critics.

Posted by: john francis lee | Jul 13 2014 11:27 utc | 89

Mina

So true, the arab leaders are the most pathetic group ever, they are so afraid of israel its just ridiculous. They could cancel their pathetic meeting because as you say nothing will come out of it.

Posted by: Anonymous | Jul 13 2014 12:33 utc | 90

@ 85

I think you meant to direct your query to Okie farmer... @78... not mine.

@ 84, Blockquote, that statement is not mine, it is part of the article I linked to ~ and while I agree with most of your comment, I would simply remind you that the 'face' Israel has put forward all these decades and particularly most recently, is the opposite of what Bibi said on Friday... thus the "It's official, etc. comment" ~ or, at least that's my take on the article ~ ymmv of course

Posted by: crone | Jul 13 2014 13:24 utc | 91

@89

The West has been paying off, intimidating and overall controlling the Arab leaders for decades.

Posted by: crone | Jul 13 2014 13:27 utc | 92

If there needed to be further proof of who the takfiris/al qaeda/IS work for ... their stone silence in the face of the US/EU/Israeli attempted genocide of the Palestinian people seems to furnish it, doesn't it?

Posted by: john francis lee | Jul 13 2014 14:06 utc | 93

If there needed to be further proof of who the takfiris/al qaeda/IS work for ... their stone silence in the face of the US/EU/Israeli attempted genocide of the Palestinian people seems to furnish it, doesn't it?

Posted by: john francis lee | Jul 13, 2014 10:06:32 AM | 92

Oh no

how wrong you are

That is just a coincidence

It's, apparently, all to do with IS incompetence, or somesuch - the IS are too incometent to fire anything in an Israeli direction.

Yes, "incompetence".. That's the thing.

Posted by: BLOCKQUOTE | Jul 13 2014 14:12 utc | 94

91
Cry me a river...

Posted by: Mina | Jul 13 2014 15:06 utc | 95

As Tikun Olam’s Richard Silverstein just reported…

Israeli Invasion to Begin in “Coming Hours”

In a recent post, I published a State Department notice it was evacuating U.S. citizens from Gaza. The message asked those wishing to leave to provide necessary contact information by the morning of July 11th (yesterday). I predicted that meant an Israeli invasion would happen the next day (July 12th) or the following one. True to form, Israel Radio aired this announcement minutes ago:

A senior military source says that the IDF will mount a significant military operation in the coming hours, after the [civilian] population is cleared from areas from which rockets are fired, mainly in northern Gaza. Residents [to be cleared] will receive announcements, SMS messages, media bulletins and leaflets. According to the military source, this type of operation is accepted under international law. Israel did the same in the past in Lebanon and that experience proves a population may be cleared from an area exploited for the purposes of acts of terror.

To be clear, the news item announces a “significant [new] military operation.” I’ve interpreted this (reasonably I think) as the expected ground invasion. You often have to interpret such statements from Israeli military-intelligence sources using previous experience and understanding of sub-text. A lot is communicated through hints and coded language. AP has also confirmed the IDF was clearing northern Gaza in preparation for “stepping up its offensive.” {…}

This is the moment so many of us have expected and dreaded. It is the crossing of the Rubicon. From here, Israel crosses over from a massive, punishing air assault to outright invasion. The Obama administration and United Nations, which have stood by thus far impotently, must rouse themselves from moral torpor and act decisively. Of course, they will wait until the killing becomes even more senseless than it already is. If they act at all.

Here is the latest ineffectual pap from the State Department on the crisis:

Asked whether the US had taken a position on an Israeli invasion into Gaza, State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki did not rule out a ground assault, instead replying that such an outcome was “no one’s preference.” She declared: “I would remind you who is at fault here, and that is Hamas.”

con't at link http://my.firedoglake.com/ctuttle/2014/07/12/operations-brothers-keeper-protective-edge/#at_pco=cfd-1.0&at_ab=-&at_pos=2&at_tot=8&at_si=53c2b85613d1fb41

Posted by: crone | Jul 13 2014 16:52 utc | 96

Latest update on # killed at 972mag is 160

http://972mag.com/live-blog-escalation-in-gaza-july-2014/93148/

Posted by: crone | Jul 13 2014 16:58 utc | 97

The BBC fully in tune with the Sderot open air "cinema"
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-28265628
"Shopping secrets of the Taliban"
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-28263683
"The perfect metal for bullets and missiles"

What banalization of violence? I bet the guy who writes ISIL pamphlets is an ex-BBC journo

Posted by: Mina | Jul 13 2014 17:12 utc | 98

In Photos: Worldwide protest against Israeli attack on Gaza

Jewish activists light children’s dolls on fire at Yad Vashem to protest Gaza attack

A site some may be interested in: 972mag.com From their "About"

"+972 is a blog-based web magazine that is jointly owned by a group of journalists, bloggers and photographers whose goal is to provide fresh, original, on-the-ground reporting and analysis of events in Israel and Palestine. Our collective is committed to human rights and freedom of information, and we oppose the occupation. However, +972 Magazine does not represent any organization, political party or specific agenda..." more

Haaretz has interesting opeds

Implementing the master plan for East Jerusalem
Israel’s undeclared goal is to expel the residents of East Jerusalem from the city, or at least to limit their number and weaken them as a national community.
By Amira Hass | Jul 11, 2014 | 05:29 AM

Eliminating the Palestinians as a political entity
The government is intent on destroying every political entity in the West Bank and turning the Palestinians into a marginalized, fragmented people.
By Yitzhak Laor | Jul. 11, 2014 | 5:28 AM

Posted by: crone | Jul 13 2014 17:20 utc | 99

Mina @ 98

May I remind you that the name of this thread is "Gaza" ~

Posted by: crone | Jul 13 2014 17:23 utc | 100

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