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July 27, 2014

Chutzpa: Dozens Dead And Wounded - IDF Rejects Claims Of Casualties

Chutzpa is defined as:

unmitigated effrontery or impudence; gall

Israeli tanks shell UN-run school, killing 16 - Xinhua, July 25, 2014

Four Israeli army tanks shells fired on Thursday at a school, run by the United Nations for Relief and Work Agency (UNRWA) in the northern Gaza Strip town of Beit Hanoun, killing 16 and wounded dozens of civilians who took refuge to the school, medics and witnesses said.
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Witnesses said that the Israeli army tanks, stationed north of Beit Hanoun, fired four shells directly at the school, where dozens of civilians were sitting into the classroom and children were playing in the yard, adding that "the yard was full of blood and flesh."

IDF: UN school yard was empty at time of Israeli strike - Haaretz July 27, 2014

According to the army, whose inquiry included investigations of the ground forces and video footage of the incident, “one of the mortars fell in the school’s courtyard whilst it was empty of people.”

“In light of the investigation’s findings, we have rejected claims of casualties in the school grounds as they were presented by various elements immediately after the incident took place,” the IDF Spokesman’s Unit announced Sunday morning.

The only effect such stupid IDF claims and its incredible brutality against the people of Gaza have is to stiffen the will for the Palestinian people to resists. The demand for the blood currently spilled is clear. End the blockade of Gaza:

But Mr. Abu Jama, whose own house was damaged, said any agreement had to include an opening of the crossings that tightly control all movement in and out of Gaza.

“And if there is no agreement, we want the resistance to continue fighting,” he said.

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When his family fled, they took nothing, and he returned today hoping to gather clothes. But the building was pulverized, with nothing to salvage among the chunks of concrete. “We don't want a cease-fire after the destruction we've seen,” he said. “We want resistance, that's it.”

Posted by b on July 27, 2014 at 16:55 UTC | Permalink

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This is about trying to forestall another Goldstone Report. Israel is putting UN member nations on notice that no official condemnation will be allowed of its indiscriminate slaughter of Palestinians.

Posted by: Mike Maloney | Jul 27 2014 17:08 utc | 1

Just had to share this comment by Jim over at Naked Capitalism links section this morning.

Jim Haygood
July 27, 2014 at 12:13 pm
Think of the shame for US ambassador Keith Harper, who represents the U.S. at the UN Human Rights Council in Geneva. This week he cast the sole opposing vote against a UN inquiry into human rights abuses in Gaza.

Harper is a member of the Cherokee nation of Oklahoma. His people got marched there from the east coast in the Trail of Tears. Now this proud native American has prostituted his conscience to Israel, refusing aid to another oppressed people. It is one sad spectacle.

Posted by: Eureka Springs | Jul 27 2014 17:29 utc | 2

It's unusual that Israel would deny killing Palestinians when killing Palestinians is one part of what's called mass or collective punishment which seems to be a principal Israel strategy.

wiki
Israel's current blockade of Gaza has been criticized by the International Committee of the Red Cross, in a United Nations report, and by various other organisations as collective punishment aimed at the Palestinians. The Israeli practice of demolishing the houses of Palestinians who are detained, suspected or convicted for crimes against them has also been alleged to be a form of collective punishment, as their family will be punished for their acts, if any, by losing their homes, in violation of international law.

some recent headlines/reports
--Turkey urges Israel not to mass punish Palestinians
--Center for Constitutional Rights Condemns Mass Killing
--Israel Inflicts Illegal Collective Punishment on Gaza
--Unlawful Israeli Airstrikes Kill Civilians. objectives and may be intended as collective punishment or broadly to destroy civilian property.
--Egypt blasts Israel over 'mass punishment' in Gaza
--How Israel is punishing ordinary Palestinians

Israel in its desperation relies on this mass punishment strategy notwithstanding what ought to be common knowledge. A populace generally can't be defeated, or have their objectives re-aligned, by killing many of them and destroying their property. The New Hampshire motto -- Live Free Or Die -- is what history tells us is a more typical response. Shock and awe doesn't work. There are many examples.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jul 27 2014 17:32 utc | 3

@ Eureka Springs #2
Thank you for that.
The Cherokee Museum in Oklahoma is a sad place, overall, but with strains of human resistance.
I hope that Ambassador Haygood gave serious consideration to what he voluntarily did.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jul 27 2014 17:36 utc | 4

And in Egypt sisi help israel
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/07/27/372991/egypt-destroys-13-more-gaza-tunnels/

Posted by: Anonymous | Jul 27 2014 17:43 utc | 5

It looks ot me like Israel is taking a page out of Russia's book. Palestinians are to Israel as Chechens are to Russia — and look how that savagery turned out for Russia and Putin. Chechnya is now docile and submissive bending to the savage will of Putin's Russia and performing savage acts for Russia as is witnessed by Chechen fighters in Eastern Ukraine and the notorious Tsarnaev brothers in Boston. Israel can learn from Putin's strategy against the Chechens — they just have to have the resolve to crush and annihilate as Putin does. Right? What's good for Putin's goose is good for Israel's gander, right? Shouldn't we at least be consistent?

Crimes of War

Russia’s disastrous war in Chechnya has witnessed butchery and savagery on a scale and intensity recalling World War II. During the 1990s massive formations of Russian tanks, artillery, and aircraft pounded Chechen cities and towns to charred ruins. Since then, Chechnya has endured years of guerrilla war and government security sweeps in which thousands of people have been killed or disappeared. The conflict has spilled into neighboring republics in southern Russia, destabilizing an already precarious region. Guerrillas have indiscriminately struck deep into the heart of Russia, killing hundreds of civilians, including children. Human rights and the laws of war appear meaningless to both sides.

As Russia showed signs of swinging back to its authoritarian past under Vladamir Putin, who succeeded Yeltsin, the United States and other Western nations were more critical about growing evidence of human rights abuses in Chechnya. George Bush threatened in 2000 to cut off aid if Russia continued “killing women and children, leaving orphans and refugees” in Chechnya. The West’s tone changed dramatically after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on New York City and Washington D.C. The United States, looking for allies in an international war on terrorism, was eager to accept help from Moscow, which portrayed the Chechen conflict as another front in the conflict against Islamic terrorism. The European Union, the U.S. State Department and others have occasionally urged Russia to curb human rights abuses in Chechnya, but there has been little action to back the censure and the issue has almost disappeared from international politics.

The Russian government has also managed to deflect domestic attention from Chechnya and there is little public discussion of the issue. Journalists, human rights groups and others are restricted and Chechnya remains a very dangerous place for outsiders and locals.

How convenient 9/11 took the heat off Russia for Chechnya. Maybe a little too convenient. Perhaps all those expatriated Russians now residing in America who claim Putin's Russia did 9/11 are onto something. Cui bono from 9/11? Russia sure did. Many others too.

Posted by: Cold N. Holefield | Jul 27 2014 18:04 utc | 6

Posted by: Eureka Springs | Jul 27, 2014 1:29:13 PM | 2


Thanks, amazing and very sad.

Posted by: jo6pac | Jul 27 2014 18:11 utc | 7

re 6
It looks ot me like Israel is taking a page out of Russia's book. Palestinians are to Israel as Chechens are to Russia

I wouldn't for a moment agree. Gaza is far too much under the spotlight, and the crime will be hung round Israel's neck. You can only say that because you're an American, and out of touch with the rest of the world.

Posted by: Alexno | Jul 27 2014 18:33 utc | 8

European Jews with modest amounts of Semitic blood especially as compared to Palestinians flock to Palestine and use terror squads to steal the land in the 1900s after being absent since the time of Christ.

Russia otoh had dominated Chechnya as part of its proximate territory since the 1500s. Billy Kristol and the Israeli-loyal neocons help foment Chechen
anti-Russian terrorism as part of a gambit to lessen animus against Israel in certain parts of the Islamic world.

Leave it to the agent of American and Israeli imperialism assholefield
to blur the theaters and side with the Zionist neocons while spinning unheard of conspiracy theories to make those of the "Truthers" seem plausible by comparison.

Posted by: truthbetold | Jul 27 2014 18:49 utc | 9

"Now this proud native American..." Way to stereotype. I see a war-painted brave gazing at the setting sun, weeping.

If he had any pride he would resign.

Posted by: ruralito | Jul 27 2014 20:32 utc | 10

Definitely talk about chutzpah, today, Bibi doubled down... Netanyahu Blames Hamas Again for Palestinian Civilian Deaths

Posted by: CTuttle | Jul 27 2014 21:07 utc | 11

@6 "Palestinians are to Israel as Chechens are to Russia"

Errr, no, quite untrue. Chechnya is a republic within the Russian Federation i.e. Russia is the sovereign, and the Chechens are the subjects of that Federation, and those subjects attempted to breakaway.

Compare and contrast....

"What's good for Putin's goose is good for Israel's gander, right?"

Errr, no, that's untrue. Putin is the leader of the sovereign power of all of the Russian Federation, which includes Chechnya. Netanyahu's regime is merely occupying the territory that is claimed by Palestine, and the Palestinians are not under the sovereign rule of Israel.

What a SOVEREIGN is allowed to do when faced with an insurrection is not allowed to an OCCUPIER. It is the difference between one who is supreme within a territory (i.e. a sovereign) versus one who is merely a temporary administrator of a territory (i.e. an occupier).

"Shouldn't we at least be consistent?"

Indeed. When do you plan to start?

If we were to be consistent then we would be comparing Putin's actions in Chechnya with, say, Assad's actions against Allepo.

Like versus like: sovereign versus sovereign.

And, again, consistency would require us to compare Netanyahu's actions in Gaza with, say, George W Bush's actions in Iraq following "mission accomplished".

Like versus like: occupation versus occupation.

Posted by: Johnboy | Jul 27 2014 21:53 utc | 12

the chosen people are above any law.

Posted by: brian | Jul 27 2014 22:18 utc | 13

Posted by: Cold N. Holefield | Jul 27, 2014 2:04:21 PM | 6
the embodiment of Chutzpah!

was that during the reign of USbacked Yeltsin? or

'
It looks ot me like Israel is taking a page out of Russia's book. Palestinians are to Israel as Chechens are to Russia — and look how that savagery turned out for Russia and Putin. Chechnya is now docile and submissive bending to the savage will of Putin's Russia '

only cold and hole in the head would have the zionist level effrontary to make up history and biography! Chechenya is now a peaceful properous state thanks to the peace the 2 leaders made,.,..after Putin explained how the conflict was being used by outside powers.

for the zionist level chutzpha, id have had Cold and Hiole in the head kicked out

Posted by: brian | Jul 27 2014 22:22 utc | 14

Updates | The Israeli-Egyptian Siege over Gaza

http://www.arabworld360.info/2014/07/updates-israeli-egyptian-siege-over-gaza.html

Posted by: M. Tomazy | Jul 28 2014 1:10 utc | 15

@brian #14:

Yes, Russia has a substantial Muslim population, so Russians and Muslims have learned to live with each other amicably. See For Prophet and Tsar.

The only thing USG knows what to do with Muslims, in contrast, is to bomb them while at the same time sponsoring jihadi militants to undermine secular Arab governments.

Posted by: Demian | Jul 28 2014 2:03 utc | 16

for the zionist level chutzpha, id have had Cold and Hiole in the head kicked out

Hopefully he isn't being paid too much. His level of influence here is nil, but in a way it is good that he is here to remind everyone what arseholes these Zionists are.

Mr Pragma and a few others who were kicked out of here still post at Saker and a few places.

Posted by: DM | Jul 28 2014 4:59 utc | 17

I call for


  1. An immediate end to all US military, financial, and diplomatic ‘aid’ – UN vetos – to Israel; the lifting of Israel’s blockade of Gaza by the US 6th Fleet; and the Fleet’s delivery of aid to reconstruct Gaza after the total wars of destruction waged against Gaza and Gazans by Israel.

  2. An immediate Israeli pullback – 100% – to the old “Green line” and pre-1967 war borders.

  3. Immediate recognition of the state of Palestine by the US, and its puppet UN, within the 1967 borders.

  4. The immediate unification of the Palestinian state, by bridge over or, better, tunnel under Israel, to be paid for with some of the moneys formerly earmarked for US ‘aid’ to Israel together with aid from all those worldwide who are in solidarity with Palestine and the Palestinians.

  5. A cooling-off period lasting a generation or two – as long as it takes – to allow a real peace between all the people in that poor area to evolve in this one world which we all inhabit together.


A friend sent a link to an article which contained the quote ...

“Any Jew who is not sickened by Israel’s behavior has forgotten what it means to be a Jew. Perhaps a visit to the Holocaust museum or Yad Vashem will provide a refresher course.”

I think that is right on ... and I think that it is up to American Jews especially, and all of the rest of us Americans as well, to put an end to this.

The Zionists are in the vanguard, along with the putsch in Ukraine, of those who have left the human community ... well the imagined community we used to call human ... and the 546 transnational corporate stooges who run the USA are hot on their heels.

As an individual ... well, what force on earth is weaker than the feeble force of one? But our union makes us strong. If even 1% of us Americans directly contacted the 0.00017% of Americans who wield the levers of power in our country we could turn things around. I included the contact pages of 535 of the 546, neglecting the Supremes, following a copy of my email to the tncs'es. Feel free to avail yourselves of it. I don't imagine that you even have to be an American to email the Assassin in Chief.

Posted by: john francis lee | Jul 28 2014 6:16 utc | 18

P&VP + 100 Senators + 435 Representatives = 537

Posted by: john francis lee | Jul 28 2014 6:31 utc | 19

“Any Jew who is not sickened by Israel’s behavior has forgotten what it means to be a Jew.

Reminds me of a conversation last nite in which my guest said, "The problem with many Jews is they're Jews first and members of the human race second."

Posted by: okie farmer | Jul 28 2014 6:33 utc | 20

@ john francis lee

I'm with you...

Richard Silverstein is a Jew who has been standing against Israel's actions. He needs our help... his FB account has been disabled. Here, let him tell you about it:

Director of Israeli Aerospace Institute Conducts Campaign Disabling My Facebook Account

Help him, won't y'all? contact FB and share the link. Thanks. We need to stand together. They are few, we are many.

Posted by: crone | Jul 28 2014 8:27 utc | 21

I found the recent removal of a comment posted on Moon Of Alabama to be puzzling to say the least. The Palestinians can only dream that their biggest problem during this recent increase in violence was the closing of an airport. Israel's claims of blanket rocket attacks from Hamas suddenly became harmless once the aviation authorities had put a ban on airlines from flying into Israel and yet if we consider what happened to MH17, it wasn't an unreasonable decision at all. Pressure by Israel and their allies clearly had the ban revoked because nothing changed on the ground to justify removing it. At no point did I condone targeting passenger planes, it was merely Mr Holefield's assertion and his outrageous accusation that I was encouraging terrorism. Urging the Palestinians to resist is not terrorism at all, it is their legal right.

Posted by: Andy | Jul 28 2014 8:58 utc | 22

Attack by IDF veteran on critics of Israel policy …

Director of Israeli Aerospace Institute Conducts Campaign Disabling My Facebook Account

An Israeli Facebook user named Tal Inbar began a campaign to get my Facebook account removed. Here is what he published in Hebrew.

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Tikun Olam is one of the few blogs I follow and sometimes contribute my thoughts. Throughout the years, Tikun Olam is harassed on a daily basis by the (paid) group of hasbarists out of the school of Gerald Steinberg. Netahyhu by his military actions may be losing the PR war. From the Office of the Minister President most directives are send, and funding arranged, to fight the PR war across the western world.

IDF's New Media - War Propaganda Through Social Media

Posted by: Oui | Jul 28 2014 10:19 utc | 23

Paul Reynolds ‏@PaulFedayn 52m
Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions are sweeping mainstream Irish and UK retail. Apartheid will fall. #gaza pic.twitter.com/ScI2ZiLXP9

Posted by: brian | Jul 28 2014 11:37 utc | 24

21

It's no coincidence that most of the main blogs are all gatekeepered by Facebook now. Sure, they provide a plug-in interface, and so does Twitter, Google + and Linked In. Who owns those companies, and why the need to identify posters with their real names, real accounts, home address, phone number? This is how Nazi Germany was run, yet Corporate is Anonymous.
Mark Zuckerberg, who plots to flood America with sub-wage slaves to do Corporate's bidding.

So now we find out the 'WHY?' about MH17 (other than the obvious fact Malaysia Airlines is majority-owned by a Jacob Rothschilds, as is the insurance company that reimburses his losses, and he is also $B surviving patent holder of all the others holders lost on MH370):

"The Permanent Court of Arbitration **in The Hague, Netherlands** ruled today that Russia is liable to pay almost half of the $103 billion plus interest they sought, GML Ltd., the holding company for Yukos’s former main shareholders, said today." (Bloomberg)

And who are Yuko Oil's former main shareholders? Russian-born Israeli business magnates!
The Chosen, who moved to Israel for the dry warm climate, and for the 'peace and quiet'.

"Khodorkovsky and his partners obtained a banking license to create Bank Menatep in 1989. As one of Russia's first privately owned banks, Menatep expanded quickly, and in 1995, Menatep acquired a major Russian oil producer, Yukos, which had debts exceeding $3.5 billion, for $300 million."

Sounds like another Silverstein success story. Invest $300M, get $103 BILLION in return.

Get over it. They OWN you. Count yourself lucky FB is all they took.

Posted by: chip nikh | Jul 28 2014 11:46 utc | 25

the chosen people are above any law.
Posted by: brian | Jul 27, 2014 6:18:15 PM | 13

At least that's what the Holy Koran and Noble Hadiths tell us.

Posted by: Northern Observer | Jul 28 2014 12:32 utc | 26

@crone - #21

I/P becoming an IP conflict? Ynet News in 2011 – Zuckerberg's Facebook Conduit to Impose Israeli Censorship [my headline of course – Oui].

IDF's New Media - War Propaganda Through Social Media [Dec/Jan. 2009 Gaza War]

Posted by: Oui | Jul 28 2014 12:33 utc | 27

I agree it's wrong and telling of Facebook or any other space to censor like this. I concede that — and in fact, I don't use Facebook at all, and I'm not sure why any of you do. Why do you, considering?

But my condemnation of this censoring applies universally. So, Putin's Russia is not immune to and from this criticism, and yet I've not seen the same condemnation concerning Putin's crack-down on freedom of speech and expression in Russia from ANY of you.

Also, a number of you have called for b to censor and or ban commentators you don't agree with at this space. How's that different than the charges you're leveling against Zuckerberg and Facebook? Consistency matters. Try it sometime.

It's Time We Have That Talk

Posted by: Cold N. Holefield | Jul 28 2014 14:16 utc | 28

Relevant interview from 2010 with Hamas:

http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=5221

Posted by: ben | Jul 28 2014 14:49 utc | 29

cold -

facebook is a piece of crap.. google, youtube - both much the same in terms of collecting personal information and selling if for money, or bending over when nsa says so.. the whole scam comes is the underside of the 'freedom' mantra everyone swallows who are born into western society.. censorship by the leading social networks, and collection of private personal info is nothing new, in our society, just that it runs at odds with the regular mantra most people including cold like to chant..

one reason folks here don't talk about the living situation in russia is they don't live in russia! they focus instead on the bullshit and lies they are given in their own culture.. focusing on what is or isn't happening in russia is a fine distraction though.. it will keep you from examining your own culture. it lulls folks like yourself into thinking you live 'in the greatest country in the world' bullshit, while never acknowledging how much hypocrisy you have to swallow to continue to believe in it..

Posted by: james | Jul 28 2014 15:02 utc | 30

@6 Tell us a little about the source of that quote and who its sponsors are.

Posted by: Snake Arbusto | Jul 28 2014 16:04 utc | 31

At Eurreka at 2.

The US -Obama- nominated Keith Harper to the UN Human rights council because of his ‘darkish’ looks, Cherokee background (heh, his father was a US military man), and long standing representation of Native Americans. He is a career lawyer and has made hay (literally, huge amounts) from his ‘humanitarian’ creds and well - involvement in peculiar settlements. Look up the details, I hesitate to broach all that as I don’t know about it.

He is an Obama groupie who gathered at least half a mil. in donations for O’s re-election campaign, so got that nomination, which is not an honour, it is a kind of shifting aside, outside of the US. The UN HRC is not liked or respected by the US. The US withdrew from it for a long time (about Israel) and considers it at best a minor noisy nuisance. Obama made the moves to re-join. So Harper has been sent away and is of course flunkey supreme.

Posted by: Noirette | Jul 28 2014 16:15 utc | 32

Some part of the MSM is gingerly turning against Israeli agression in Gaza (if not against Isr. itself.)

The sort of standard ‘you should know’ and ‘this has gone too far’ and ‘nobody wants to see children killed’ etc. Sort of sob-story news that resemble that following natural disasters such as a Tsunami, where an enemy is not really named.

Then there are the demos, just an ineffective as before the Iraq war. And all this repeat, repeat, remember the ships that went to Gaza to bring supplies and break the blockade? Ppl were killed? So then what? Nothing.

Palestinians are poor, uneducated, mostly refugees in now 50 year-old camps, or in the open air prison of Gaza, or, doing marginally better, in the West Bank. Some of them. Nothing will change. All this will be forgotten in one month.

Posted by: Noirette | Jul 28 2014 16:22 utc | 33

@crone | (21)

Oh, c'mon, Richard Silverstein is himself a zionist!
He is zionist 'light', but he is zionist.

The guy is disgusting. He spent countless hours writing up propaganda against Syria's government and wishing for it to be replaced with a compliant vassal...
which is obviously to Israels interests.
Also, try to tell certain truths about how the zionist entity came into beign and he'll ban u.

Posted by: Luca K | Jul 28 2014 16:41 utc | 34

Luca K

HAve you any evidence for what you are saying? IMO Richard have a big ego, but being pro-israel is the last thing that would represent him.

Posted by: Anonymous | Jul 28 2014 16:50 utc | 35

@Anonymous | Jul 28, 2014 12:50:45 PM | (35)

Why, his blog of course!

Try out a post telling such truths as;
Israel was created illegally.
The disgraceful UN had no mandate to give a peoples land to foreign zio settlers.
The partition plan only passed in the General Assembly because of rigged voting.
However, to become policy it had go through the security council, which it never did.
Thus, it was vitiated.
The 2 state solution is a f*cking joke!
The Palestinians are supposed to be ok with living in about 20% of their land!
Try telling Silverstein these things and see what it gets you...

Posted by: Luca K | Jul 28 2014 19:32 utc | 36

Andy @ 22 "Urging the Palestinians to resist is not terrorism at all, it is their legal right". The question is are these rocket attacks by Hamas illegal under International law?
Reprisals refer to acts which are illegal if taken alone, but become legal when adopted by one state in retaliation for the commission of an earlier illegal act by another state.[2] Counter-reprisals are generally not allowed.
An example of reprisal before reprisals could be legally undertaken, a number of conditions had to be satisfied:
• There had to be a previous act by the other party that violated international law.
• Reprisals had to be preceded by an unsatisfied demand for reparation or compliance with the violated international law.
• There must be proportionality between the offence and reprisal.
The following is from an article on Professor Norman Finkelsteins blog http://normanfinkelstein.com/2014/are-hamas-rocket-attacks-illegal/
“HRW’s Deputy Middle East and North Africa director stated in the first press release. “All attacks, including reprisal attacks, that target or indiscriminately harm civilians are prohibited under the laws of war, period.” Not so. International law does not—at any rate, not yet—prohibit belligerent reprisals.[4]The United States and Britain, among others, have staunchly defended the right of a state to use nuclear weapons by way of belligerent reprisal.[5] By this standard, the people of Gaza surely have the right to use makeshift projectiles to end an illegal, merciless seven-year-long Israeli blockade or to end Israel’s criminal bombardment of Gaza’s civilian population. Indeed, in its landmark 1996 advisory opinion on the legality of nuclear weapons, the ICJ ruled that international law is not settled on the right of a state to use nuclear weapons when its “survival” is at stake. But, if a state might have the right to use nuclear weapons when its survival is at stake, then surely a people struggling for self-determination has the right to use makeshift projectiles when it has been subjected to slow death by a protracted blockade and recurrent massacres by a state determined to maintain its occupation”.

Posted by: harry law | Jul 28 2014 20:32 utc | 37

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