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Is Egoism Of Countries Justifiable?
An internal presentation page by the National Security Agency, on page 167 of this big PDF and referenced in Glenn Greenwald's new book, says:
Oh Yeah …
- Put Money, National Interest, and Ego together, and now you're talking about shaping the world writ large.
What country doesn't want to make the world a better place … for itself?
Can such egoism of a "country" ever be justified? How?
I have to disagree with bevin. Maybe I can do it without calling anyone a “fanboi”.
As time is of the essence considering the type of material, the idea that Greenwald should stop putting out the documents because he is “busy with a book” gives the lie to the idea that he got together with Omidyar to expand his capabilities beyond what a lone reporter could do. If these documents are truly important – which they are – and there is still huge amounts to be exposed – which as b indicates, there is – then there is no reason to slow down the pace to write a book (as if it is all a one man show anyway), especially when there are a huge number of truly excellent reporters on board at the Intercept.
We can only hope that Greenwald’s article, book, and potential movie move this country closer to ridding itself of the NSA, but Greenwald and Omidyar must be looked at closely and must be criticized. Unfortunately, much of the criticism here has been overblown, ridiculous, and based on no evidence and ultimately counterproductive both in tone and in substance. Some obviously comes from the US government itself. But that doesn’t mean that all criticism is invalid and that we should glibly accept these two as “allies” when, for all intents and purposes, they appear to be treating these documents – truly the birthright of US citizens and indeed everyone in the world – as their own private domain.
There are two criticisms which I think are extremely valid:
1. The “Responsible” leakers: I think the criticism of the trio (like at sites like The Rancid Honeytrap) that Greenwald has gone out of his way to attempt to counterpose himself as “reasonable” and “responsible” leaker – as opposed to Assange, who is now paying an extremely heavy price for genuinely revolutionary actions – is absolutely valid. Greenwald’s arrival into the United States with great fanfare, dangling out promises that the ‘best is yet to come’, all while the exposures grow stale seems absolutely irresponsible. After all, Manning is imprisoned, Assange may as well be, and Snowden is in exile. Yet Greenwald is busy partying and writing books and movies – this says a great deal, IMHO. Is there no solidarity here?
2. The actions of Omidyar: I don’t think anyone ever accused Omidyar of being “behind” the entire CIA operation in Ukraine. But his actions there – funneling money into NGOs and “democracy-promotion” under the watchful eye of the CIA – lay bare his concept of the role of the United States and the ultra-rich on the world stage. This deserves some serious consideration, after all, what kind of reporting can we hope for when these are the actions of the publisher? If the main struggle in our world today is securing political multi-polarity, then why should we think that a man who actively spends billions to thwart this is “an ally”?
And what of Greenwald’s views on imperialism? Take this truly ignorant statement:
It is true that in this region (as is true for the U.S.), there remains a small, fervent band of left-wing fanatics with crazed enthusiasm for the worn-out, socialist/collectivist policies which have condemned millions upon millions of people throughout Latin America to poverty unimaginable to even the poorest Americans.
“>http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2005/11/reality-of-latin-american-reaction-to.html
The above statement is absolutely the most appalling, ahistorical nonsense I have ever read. Which ‘socialist/collectivist’ policies that ‘condemned millions upon millions of people throughout Latin America to poverty’ is Greenwald referring to? The decades of US sponsored right wing dictatorships maybe?
No, you cannot make a statement like that and not be under a great cloud in my opinion. Just as you cannot see yourself as a “billionaire philanthropist” who just happens to put your cash into meddling in other people’s countries and be considered an “ally” of any honest person.
There is too much questionable background here. The above statements go right along with what seems to be Greenwald’s feeling that the key issues at stake are personal privacy, not US imperial power. Right along with his insistence that private, corporate power is to be less feared than public, state power (as if, in this day and age, there is any difference at all).
Let’s take what Greenwald and Omidyar have because – really – we need this information, and have no other choice (though, certainly, I wish we did). But let’s not imagine that they are working for any interests except for those that can very narrowly be described as “theirs”.
Posted by: guest77 | May 14 2014 3:11 utc | 54
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