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April 27, 2014
Open Thread 2014-11
News & views not about Ukraine …
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I just spent a whole two hours bugging and debugging this frightful farrago of garbage about Putin from today’s “newspaper of record.” Let me please invite you to read my annotated version, then you won’t have to read the original: Posted by: Rowan Berkeley | Apr 27 2014 17:59 utc | 1 I saw that NYT piece earlier today. Here’s the best comment on it: Posted by: okie farmer | Apr 27 2014 18:55 utc | 2 Here is an Interesting look at First Look Media‘s first six months. And it is looking like a dying concern. Posted by: guest77 | Apr 27 2014 18:57 utc | 3 “Breaking: Ukraine supplies syrian jihadists since 2011 (SPIEGEL report)” Posted by: neretva’43 | Apr 27 2014 20:39 utc | 4 ‘ The NSA documents belong to the American people and are not to be the private concern of First Look Media. ‘ Posted by: john francis lee | Apr 27 2014 21:39 utc | 5 Posted by: neretva’43 | Apr 27, 2014 4:39:15 PM | 4 Posted by: somebody | Apr 27 2014 22:18 utc | 6 @3 regarding The Intercept Posted by: Donn Marten | Apr 27 2014 22:41 utc | 7 writing overt political poems usually degrades the quality of the verse, I’ve noticed. and if you use specific names, places, it time stamps the poem, which can be limiting. good political poems are hard to pull off, but I think I’ve managed to write a decent one, which you can read here. Posted by: lizard | Apr 27 2014 23:01 utc | 8 Regarding the dissappointment and detumesence of the resident glenn g fanbois Posted by: tst | Apr 28 2014 0:43 utc | 9 Bevin toiboi and that guest gimp were of course the 3 most willing gg fanbois Posted by: tst | Apr 28 2014 1:07 utc | 10 http://rt.com/op-edge/155120-living-behind-cnn-curtain/ Living behind the CNN curtain Posted by: scalawag | Apr 28 2014 1:12 utc | 11 News of US corporations taking over companies abroad always remind me of Control’s rant to George Smiley in Le Carre’s “Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy”: “They’re buying their way in with counterfeit money” …. Posted by: Cortes | Apr 28 2014 1:39 utc | 12 And Of course back in Sept 2013 it was also stated that Sy hersh was nothing more than a conduit for the cia, which he recently proved with his limited hangout piece on the alleged syrian sarin attacks Posted by: tst | Apr 28 2014 1:51 utc | 13 Ps Posted by: tst | Apr 28 2014 1:59 utc | 14 I would like to suggest that Obama’s sushi dinner finished off TPP as far as Japan is concerned. Posted by: Ken Nari | Apr 28 2014 2:49 utc | 15 Hurray! Obama has found his ‘democracy loving’ moderate rebels! Jamal Maarouf is out, Abdullah Awda, 28 is in.
Posted by: virgile | Apr 28 2014 3:14 utc | 16 guest77 @3 Posted by: bevin | Apr 28 2014 3:28 utc | 17 that is “too early to tell” and rather than “the trolling community” and after mature consideration the words “rapidly decomposing excrement” seem more appropriate. Posted by: bevin | Apr 28 2014 3:30 utc | 18 bevin, that is a terrible explanation. the more obvious explanation is far likelier, viz, that the whole thing was a CIA con from the top down and that Putin knew that, hence his distinct lack of interest. Why do you always sound like you’re writing cover for them? Are you? Posted by: Rowan Berkeley | Apr 28 2014 3:57 utc | 19 At a bare minimum we should be able to communicate and discuss things. People need to know that the main promoters of what is called “9/11 Truth” REFUSE to even discuss the things they push all over the Internet. Here is just he latest examples from twitter: Ashley#HandsOffSyria tweets “Seems Legit. #Rethink911 pic.twitter.com/z7aVDa5hcl ” and I respond: http://www.911myths.com/index.php/Personal_Effects_and_the_Crash-Proof_Passport Posted by: Tom Murphy | Apr 28 2014 4:12 utc | 20 I’m a great fan of Edward Snowden. He seems to be a libertarian, ‘soft’ on TNCs, and a true believer in ‘honorable surveillance’ himself … but his principled stand puts all that stuff in the background. Posted by: john francis lee | Apr 28 2014 4:49 utc | 21 @john francis lee #21: @15 Ken Nari Posted by: Grim Deadman | Apr 28 2014 6:12 utc | 23 Where the F is obama now huh? Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 28 2014 7:58 utc | 24 @Anonymous #24: I want a video of this sushi event! It sounds classic! Epochal! Posted by: Rowan Berkeley | Apr 28 2014 8:40 utc | 26 @Bevin#17
This follows a similar incident on the Jordanian border some 10 days earlier – which itself came hot on the heels of King Playstation’s widely ignored meeting with Putin in Russia.
Coincidence, or a planned effort? Though a final solution to the Turkish problem remains to be seen.
Since the fall/liberation of Qusair in June 2013, the Syrian Army advanced to Qarah in November 2013, to Dayr Attiah, to Al Nabk, to Yabroud, to Rankoos and now Zabadani – a stretch of some 120km. The remaining pockets in and around Homs and Damascus are next – setting the ground for Presidential elections in June and the beginning of a new term for an elected President Assad, whilst the West is left wondering how to stop the flow of fighters to the opposition. Posted by: Pat Bateman | Apr 28 2014 10:15 utc | 27 Excellent info. Kuwait ‘epicenter’ of terror funding: Washington Posted by: ProPeace | Apr 28 2014 11:20 utc | 28 @15 I doubt that very much. Posted by: Johnboy | Apr 28 2014 12:20 utc | 29 just do it…not that the US fears any law Posted by: brian | Apr 28 2014 12:34 utc | 30 before people get too sentimental about Morsi: Posted by: brian | Apr 28 2014 12:46 utc | 31 Uhm, can anyone explain what’s the fuss about the Sushi Disaster? Because I really seem to be in the dark. Posted by: Grim Deadman | Apr 28 2014 13:40 utc | 33 @33 I wonder too. Apparently Obama stopped eating after 10 courses. He even put his chopsticks down! This is considered a gross violation of sushi etiquette. Posted by: dh | Apr 28 2014 14:08 utc | 34 Johnboy @ 29 and Grim Deadman Posted by: Ken Nari | Apr 28 2014 14:23 utc | 35 @35 Thanks, that really helped. Posted by: Grim Deadman | Apr 28 2014 14:41 utc | 37 The problem with the Intercept (Glen, Pierre …) is surely (besides the fact that they now all probably hate each other) is that you can’t have it both ways. You can’t be a ‘new media mainstream thing’ and reveal state secrets. Or even merely be a ‘bit more daring and informative’ (plenty of doing that already appealing to fringe segments, though they are more speculative..) You can’t model yourself on past now defunct investigative journalism which, while based on some ‘leaks’ on occasion did not involve masses of stolen data. What were they going to accomplish? Become the Huffington Post sprinkled with some sparkly bits of insider stuff? Posted by: Noirette | Apr 28 2014 14:49 utc | 38 Grim Deadman @37 Posted by: Ken Nari | Apr 28 2014 15:24 utc | 39 Hey,here in America,we get to pay penance this week,as it’s holocaust remembrance week,where foreigners did in foreigners,and where we,along with others,rescued them.You couldn’t make it up. Posted by: dahoit | Apr 28 2014 17:03 utc | 40 Let’s hear it for Ubuntu-Linux! Was upgrading to v14.04 when the system crashed. Couldn’t reboot. No problem; booted up LiveUSB, set up a chroot, and fixed the damn thing, without having to consult an “expert”. Posted by: ruralito | Apr 28 2014 17:46 utc | 41 @Ken Nari #39: Meanwhile, Syria is going ahead with elections.
It is the same as when both a Russian and a Ukrainian sholdier get shot, it’s “just obvious” to the US State Department that the Russians started shooting first. No evidence at all is required to come to such conclusions. A great first-ever EU Prez Debate…! As it happened: first-ever live debate between EU presidential candidates It turns out that stealth aircraft are a boondoggle, like Star Wars (Reagan’s fantasy that neither Clinton nor Obama dared to kill for good):
It’s kind of hard to be a successful superpower when the main purpose of your defense spending is to provide profits to the defense industry, as opposed to providing for the defense of the country and building weapons systems that do so in a cost-effective way. First ever debate for President of the European Commission: Posted by: okie farmer | Apr 29 2014 6:00 utc | 46 Although he writes naively and conventionally on Russia, Crimea and Ukraine, Juan Cole knocks it out of the park on Israeli Apartheid: John Kerry admits Israeli Apartheid; and 5 Ways he is Understating It There is a blurry line dividing gangsters and banksters: Posted by: scalawag | Apr 29 2014 8:00 utc | 48 @CTuttle #44:
The US press seems to be steering completely clear of this. (It also looks like the Guardian is avoiding it.) Too much cognitive dissidence would be produced, since the FP elite is very anglophilic, and conservatives see Churchill, not FDR, as the main hero of WW II because he was, well, an anglophone conservative. http://rt.com/news/155612-israel-demolish-mosque-palestine/ Israeli troops destroy mosque in Palestinian village Posted by: scalawag | Apr 29 2014 20:53 utc | 50 Although he writes naively and conventionally on Russia, Crimea and Ukraine, Juan Cole knocks it out of the park on Israeli Apartheid: John Kerry admits Israeli Apartheid; and 5 Ways he is Understating It Posted by: rbr | Apr 29 2014 21:52 utc | 51 Life’s way to short to waste any of it being polite to cretinious gobshites shillin for cia stooges. Posted by: rbr | Apr 29 2014 22:53 utc | 53 Demian, you’re wasting your time. tst/rbr, brb, stfo, foff is on his fifth or sixth screen name at this point. Posted by: guest77 | Apr 30 2014 0:06 utc | 54 http://rt.com/usa/155764-controversial-oklahoma-execution-wrong/ Oklahoma inmate dies after botched execution, state halts second execution Posted by: scalawag | Apr 30 2014 3:30 utc | 55 http://rt.com/news/155660-kerry-israel-apartheid-comment/ Kerry backtracks on Israel ‘apartheid’ remark, wishes he ‘chose a different word’ Posted by: scalawag | Apr 30 2014 3:34 utc | 56 Poor old gimp77 Posted by: rbr | Apr 30 2014 6:10 utc | 57 only in america is a gun a ‘tool’! Posted by: brian | Apr 30 2014 7:46 utc | 58 Amanda Knox struck mortal blow, victim’s wounds indicate multiple aggressors – Italian court Posted by: scalawag | Apr 30 2014 10:30 utc | 59 Regarding Gimp77’s ineffectual defence of the CIA Stooge Juan Cole Posted by: sts | Apr 30 2014 19:59 utc | 60 Right on que, the west conducts another terrorist attack on the people of China: Posted by: scalawag | May 1 2014 5:01 utc | 61 I’m going to put this here, a link to a poem by Ilya Kaminsky from his book Dancing in Odessa. Posted by: lizard | May 3 2014 4:57 utc | 62 I agree with the father of the dead German foreign exchange student when he says “America”>http://4and20blackbirds.wordpress.com/2014/05/03/america-cannot-continue-to-play-cowboy/”>”America cannot continue to play cowboy” Posted by: lizard | May 4 2014 4:51 utc | 63 Not a lot of new info – though more of the StratFor Optor emails I had seen before. And a lot of information about Venezuela that shows how out of touch the StrOptor boys are. Posted by: guest77 | May 4 2014 4:54 utc | 64 last but not least…………. ? Posted by: denk | May 5 2014 9:32 utc | 66 *Mr. Obama said the immediate priority was finding the girls,*, Posted by: denk | May 8 2014 2:13 utc | 67 67 Posted by: denk | May 8 2014 10:23 utc | 68 67 Posted by: denk | May 8 2014 11:09 utc | 70 darfur, save the children Posted by: denk | May 8 2014 17:31 utc | 71 How secret services work – with Jihadis and Fascists Posted by: somebody | May 9 2014 10:38 utc | 72 **We have seen this happen in the great lakes area where US Special Forces have been deployed ostensibly to protect the countries there from so-called insurgents who in the first place were sponsored by the same US. In Sudan we have seen how a blanket cover of international humanitarian cries orchestrated by the United States on the so-called Darfur crisis served as a prelude to the dismemberment of Sudan to punish the government of El-Bashir for daring to conclude oil deals with the Chinese to the detriment of American companies.* Posted by: denk | May 10 2014 5:07 utc | 73 so whats nigeria’s *crime* ? Posted by: denk | May 10 2014 5:45 utc | 74 sudan Posted by: denk | May 13 2014 5:04 utc | 75 looks like the gag order is ordered on the boko haram threads, heavy censoring, *conspiracy nuts* fuck off, lets all strive to get *our girls* [sic] back ! Posted by: denk | May 13 2014 6:32 utc | 76 |
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