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Where Is Obama’s Off-Ramp In This Escalation Spiral?
Obama points to the "the path of de-escalation" in Ukraine by saying:
"Let international monitors into all of Ukraine, including Crimea, to to ensure the rights of all Ukrainians are being respected, including ethnic Russians. Begin consultations between the government of Russia and Ukraine, with the participation of the international community.
"Russia would maintain its basing rights in Crimea, provided that it abides by its agreements and that it respects Ukraine's sovereignty and territory integrity.
How please could a U.S. president guarantee a contract that Ukraine would have to agree upon? Obama values "self determination" and "democracy" of a country 10,000 miles away from his so much that he is dictating what that country would have to agree upon in this or that case? Russia would be nuts to take any "guarantee" from Obama.
Obama wishes de-escalation so much that he ordered sanctions on Russian individuals and their money and pressed on European countries to do the same. Russia will retaliate with similar measures. Obama sends additional fighter jets to Lithuania and Poland and send an additional destroyer into the Black Sea. Russia will beef up its western forces. The puppet the Obama administration installed in Kiev added to the "de-escalation"by inviting NATO to Kiev and by promising to sign parts of an EU association agreement even before new elections in the Ukraine can take place. Polls have shown that there is no Ukrainian majority for either. Countering the Russian parliament votes to accept the Crimea into its federation.
If Obama and his puppet "Yuk" stay on this "path of de-escalation" the U.S. will be at DEFCON-1 in just a few weeks.
Obama said he would offer Russia an "off-ramp". But that "off-ramp" includes his demand to Russia to recognize the unelected, illegitimate puppet government in Kiev. Russia will surely never agree to that. Tit for tat will thereby continue. Where is Obama's own off-ramp in this escalation spiral?
Nora
Well noted, I say this in a friendly voice …
You may know a lot – of details. One thing to understand is that this is a part of your jail. If I bombard you with situations which you are trying to grasp and to analyze then I control you to a (not small) degree.
Let me offer a hint. The “god” of israel has many, many names and one is free to call him whatever one pleases. Just one name, his real name, “el shaddai” (Satan) is to be kept hidden.
Now, who or what is Lucifer?
(And let me note that *your* religious beliefs (or lack thereof) is not relevant in that regard because it’s about what makes them tick, not you).
Usually we here sth. about a “light bringer”, often compared to Prometheus (and such painted as friend of men). That’s wrong. Lucifer means “light maker” or, more modern “projector”. And again you see one of the core threats: Lies, deceptions and, most importantly, a thousand images, so as to distract from the one that counts, truth.
That is one of the core mechanisms that you will see again and again.
Let me introduce another concept, that of a daemon. When a small girl is afraid in the dark cellar then of daemons, i.e. not existing by themselves “evil beings” that exist only in terms of a structure and need fear to come into some kind of existence.
Combine the two and you see some important basic structures.
Yes, it’s just lowly clerks, if that, who read your emails. But that’s just one part of the story. Another part is that *real feelings* went into those letters; anger, disappointment, hope, etc. And those feelings feed them and, at the same time, this energy of you is wasted.
Again, this isn’t about this or that religion and certainly not about yours. It’s, however, about their religion or, if you prefer that way of putting it, their principles guiding them.
Back to Lucifer. he is all about projecting a 1000 images of any kind, “nice” one to dssuce and lure, ugly ones to create fear. But there is more to it. His real goal is something else, a mechanism you already saw regarding his name. It’s to make you see a 1.000 things – except one; the purpose behind the superficial purposes is to hide truth, to make it untangible.
This can, of course, be no more than a very short excursion. But I’m certain that you are already seeing many mechanisms you experience in politics, business, and everyday life.
Don’t waste any time or energy fighting within their system. You’ll only get lost within images behind images behind images on a stage they created and control completely. *No matter* what you do in their system; the mere fact of acting within the system already fulfills their main target.
They have weaknesses, too. A major one being that they can’t act out and by themselves. Like with the girl in the cellar; the daemon can not do anything in this reality by itself; it will need the small girls fear as fuel and projection area.
The reason Putin wins all those little skirmishes is not merely intelligence or having been trained by KGB. It’s way more and deeper. And, more importantly for us as persons, it’s nothing miraculous but sth. that each and every one of us carry in ourselves, too. Although unfortunately most of us have forgotten it already as children.
So, now everyone feel free to consider me insane. And I will laugh and calmly say “Wait and see”.
Posted by: Mr. Pragma | Mar 7 2014 22:19 utc | 70
“Letter writing” would fall into the category of “petitioning” which has always been-in Russia as well as in the Anglo Saxon world- a very useful means beginning political action. It is perfectly reasonable to preface more robust forms of opposition by calling upon one’s “representative” to make representations. And giving notice that we regard the government as ours to control.
Some of us need to grow up: the truth is that the political situation is dire, not irretrievable but very difficult, and the way out of it, the way to build a mass movement for democracy or self rule, begins with self respect and respect for our fellows. In terms of this blog that means sensible, respectful consultation and discussion.
The reality is that after a revolutionary Civil War featuring the invasions of more than a dozen foreign armies, generations of intense pressure, the vast calamities of the Second World War, the need for constant vigilance and a herculean investment in means of military defence and deterrence, during the Cold War. And after the tragedy of the plundering of the exploded Soviet Union, Russia is desperately weakened. It is very vulnerable to those threatening it and its people.
And it is as well to realise these things: even the Chechen war cost Russia a great deal and many thousand lives. Even the response to Georgia’s calculated provocations strained the Russian military. Just as the Ukraine’ debilitated by oligarchs plundering it, cannot mobilise any forces to defend itself, so Russia, tough much better placed still suffers from the heavy blows that it has absorbed in the past few decades. Its economy still suffers from the sudden amputation of Central Asian and eastern European limbs.
The current governing regime involves, once again, a sacrifice of popular living standards to shore up the military and to keep the oligarchs and their financial partners happy. This adds to the weakness of Russia, as do malnutrition, alcoholism and other symptoms of the inevitable poverty to be found in a country which has been systematically robbed and is still being drained of its wealth.
I don’t doubt that even a wounded, hungry Russia will defend itself ably against the jackals working for the United States but such a defence will be costly.
The mythological world in which Mr Pragma’s armchair is set, in which Russian anti-ship missiles sink American fleets at the pressing of a few buttons, Russian Special Forces march, like supermen, through every obstacle. And Putin, besides whom Bismarck is a dwarf and Lenin a nonentity, this new Peter the Great on stilts, is always several moves ahead of his enemies. This fantasy land, fertilised by batshit, is not the world in which we live and in which the gravely threatened population of Ukraine, and Russia live.
It is a pity. It would be nice to sit back as if this were a video game and wait for the good guys to prevail-be the odds whatever they are. But it isn’t, the sanctions against Russia will hurt, they will hurt ordinary Russians and the rich, who will be hurt most, will pass down the costs in spades.
Perhaps this will lead to a revival of egalitarianism, perhaps, reduced to war with the west, war communism will re-appear, all society’s resources mobilised, the spirit of the Red Army revived. Perhaps such an example will set Europe on fire, burning out the exploiters, rallying the young, the unemployed, the exploited and the humiliated, the immigrants, the poor, the debtors, the slumdwellers and the precariat, behind the cause of post capitalism, whatever it will be, and planetary rehabilitation.
If so that will be fine with me. But right now, Russia is in a desperate position, threatened by the forces of evil, which govern us. And the way to assist Russia in its principled defence of decency and its opposition to fascists on its borders must include, on our part, making it plain that we believe that our governments are wrong.
And we believe that this is a message that we can carry to our neighbours and which will resonate in our communities. And that this will make life difficult for warmongers and their cheering sections.
Mr Pragma confides that it is his belief that this blog was founded for b’s entertainment. My guess is that it was designed to spread information and to publish it, in the belief that in these times to tell the truth is indeed a revolutionary action.
On the other hand, what do the cynics among us suggest, apart from leaping on any post which looks as if it might be easy to tear apart, and trying to shock us by dancing on the edges of the burning pit of racism., not to mention shaking their fists at enemies beyond the horizon?
Posted by: bevin | Mar 7 2014 22:20 utc | 72
Slightly OT, fellow supposed Nobel Prize nominee (along with Putin) Snowden psyop continues with his EU interview today. Some interesting answers among the rest of this warmed over stale info and grandstanding:
The first were well-meaning but hushed warnings not to “rock the boat,” for fear of the sort of retaliation that befell former NSA whistleblowers like Wiebe, Binney, and Drake. All three men reported their concerns through the official, approved process, and all three men were subject to armed raids by the FBI and threats of criminal sanction. Everyone in the Intelligence Community is aware of what happens to people who report concerns about unlawful but authorized operations.
The second were similarly well-meaning but more pointed suggestions, typically from senior officials, that we should let the issue be someone else’s problem. Even among the most senior individuals to whom I reported my concerns, no one at NSA could ever recall an instance where an official complaint had resulted in an unlawful program being ended, but there was a unanimous desire to avoid being associated with such a complaint in any form.
Do you feel you had exhausted all avenues before taking the decision to go public?
– Yes. I had reported these clearly problematic programs to more than ten distinct officials, none of whom took any action to address them. As an employee of a private company rather than a direct employee of the US government, I was not protected by US whistleblower laws, and I would not have been protected from retaliation and legal sanction for revealing classified information about lawbreaking in accordance with the recommended process.
Wait, wait, wait….you worked for the CIA, the NSA and were working as a contractor for the NSA and supposedly reported how ILLEGAL you felt all of these programs were to SENIOR INDIVIDUALS yet I’m supposed to think that this did NOT set off a series of flags – like in the other cases you mentioned – concerning your employment among said senior officials? But you had previously told us that you had joined Booz Allen Hamilton with express purpose of stealing secrets and whistle-blowing. So, I’m to believe that you thought the best way to go about this was to tell senior NSA officials that you were not happy with the legal implications of what you were doing BEFORE you started stealing secrets? Gee, that sure doesn’t make me wonder about what you were allowed to steal and/or your near miraculous escape from justice, huh? I mean, really.
Can you confirm cyber-attacks by the NSA or other intelligence agencies on EU institutions, telecommunications providers such as Belgacom and SWIFT, or any other EU-based companies?
– Yes. I don’t want to outpace the efforts of journalists, here, but I can confirm that all documents reported thus far are authentic and unmodified, meaning the alleged operations against Belgacom, SWIFT, the EU as an institution, the United Nations, UNICEF, and others based on documents I provided have actually occurred. And I expect similar operations will be revealed in the future that affect many more ordinary citizens.
He doesn’t want to outpace – funny, that implies there’s actually a pace to the geologically timed release of the documents by GG and others – JOURNALISTS? FFS, this kid worked for the NSA, CIA and loads of other contractors but I’m supposed to believe he’s naive enough to believe in the f*cking MSM?
Do you still plan to release more files, and have you disclosed or been asked to disclose any information regarding the content of these files to Chinese and Russian authorities or any names contained within them?
As stated previously, there are many other undisclosed programs that would impact EU citizens’ rights, but I will leave the public interest determinations as to which of these may be safely disclosed to responsible journalists in coordination with government stakeholders. I have not disclosed any information to anyone other than those responsible journalists. Thank you.
RESPONSIBLE JOURNALISTS?!!!!! Holy shit,man, if you wanted to talk about unicorns you may well have said honest non-Zionist American politicians but responsible journos? GMAFB
What is your relationship with the Russian and Chinese authorities, and what are the terms on which you were allowed to stay originally in Hong Kong and now in Russia?
– I have no relationship with either government.
Well that clears THAT up I guess. Next question.
Sorry, folks, this kid and his story – much like any story originating out of US intelligence agencies – gets stankier and stankier every day and with every new detail.
Posted by: JSorrentine | Mar 7 2014 22:20 utc | 73
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