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March 29, 2014
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Oh, the irony
Kyiv parliamentarians need Putin as bogeyman to stop Pravy Sector storming their building – video, English reporting
Posted by: somebody | Mar 30 2014 8:09 utc | 101
Posted by: Michaël | Mar 30, 2014 6:56:51 AM | 102
He wasn’t. As a matter of fact, he did not win in an election. He was empowered by “conservatives” who thought authoritarian rule was a good idea. There were no elections after that.
Posted by: somebody | Mar 30 2014 11:11 utc | 103
@Mina 98
I just summed the populations of the countries casting each vote { Approve, Reject, Abstain, Absent } and made the graph labeled ‘head count’. The graph under ‘nation count’ shows the count of member nations over the same set of votes.
Yes ,.. 51+% of the UN member national governments approved of the Ukraine + Crimea; but the nations that abstained represent 57+% of the world’s population; and nations representing 61+% of the world’s population rejected the vote or abstained; and nations representing 65+% of the world’s population didn’t vote at all, or purposefully withheld their votes, or voted against the resolution.
It is hardly a majority of the world’s people in favor of the Ukraine+Crimea, or in rejection of the Crimeans’ decision to leave Ukraine that the US/EU/UN tried to present. In fact it is the opposite.
The UN by it’s very nature is an ‘upper house’, an unrepresentative ‘senate’ – not a representative body, Unless the member nations’ populations are computed ‘on the side’ for each and every vote taken in addition to the count of member nations’ votes. I think they should be.
Micronesia and China each have one vote, but there are ten thousand Chinese for each Micronesian, for instance.
Posted by: john francis lee | Mar 30 2014 11:37 utc | 104
The Guardian has a long and rich tradition as a front for British and US intelligence. During the Russian “revolution,” for example, its journalists were invariably SIS men, from Kerensky’s secretary to confidants of key Bolsheviks.
The paper was subsidised by the CIA no later than the early 1950s in much the same way as Encounter – that is, most notably, by bogus mass subscription. During the 1960s, Forum World Features provided free or very cheap copy.
Those who believe the CIA is not behind Edward Snowden, and the Guardian’s initial embrace of him, are naive in the extreme.
Posted by: Paul Rigby | Mar 30 2014 11:49 utc | 105
@18
the Russian Duma just allocated some 36 Billion Rubles to pensioners in Crimea. Obviously this includes Tartar, Ukrainian, Russian, and whatever kind of citizen there is there. People in the rest of the Ukraine, especially in the east, will be watching this with great envy as their standards of living crash.
Which also means that Ukrainians won’t be able to afford to go to Crimea.
Posted by: MRW | Mar 30 2014 13:01 utc | 106
Posted by: MRW | Mar 30, 2014 9:01:11 AM | 106
No, they will be Russian this year.
Wages in Russia are higher anyway.
Posted by: somebody | Mar 30 2014 13:08 utc | 107
is she just paranoid ?
http://intellihub.com/governments-intentionally-misleading-us-missing-flight-family-member-says-bbc/
u decide,
the wonder chip
http://www.wired.com/design/2013/02/freescales-tiny-arm-chip/
the men …
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/09/us-malaysia-airlines-freescale-idUSBREA280T020140309
the hit ?
http://www.rense.com/general96/tinymicro.html
Posted by: denk | Mar 30 2014 15:31 utc | 108
Those who believe the CIA is not behind Edward Snowden, and the Guardian’s initial embrace of him, are naive in the extreme.
Posted by: Paul Rigby | Mar 30, 2014 7:49:54 AM | 105
By virtue of that, Putin is part of The Game being played. One theory I keep on the shelf and nurture periodically is the CIA and KGB merged a while back and Putin and Obama are the delayed consummated coronation of the merger. Both are the progeny of intelligence services on grand display like Coke versus Pepsi when it’s the same formula…just different marketing. A strategy of tension creates arbitrage opportunities. Arbitrage is like picking money off of trees…especially if you have exclusive access and rights to the orchard.
Posted by: Cold N. Holefield | Mar 30 2014 15:57 utc | 110
Program of Klichko celebrity vehicle UDAR: http://klichko.org/en/about/programma
Its the perfect neoliberal document. No wonder the Germans love him so. He’s probably not willing to commit national suicide as “Yats” is, so perhaps that makes him less appealing to the United States.
Posted by: guest77 | Mar 30 2014 17:20 utc | 111
Alan Grayson can’t stand up to the right wing Venezuelan exiles in his own district. So much for “the congressman with guts”. He just flutters whichever way the hot air coming from those right wing snobs blows.
Fuck you Grayson. You’re no Marcantonio.
http://grayson.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/grayson-letter-on-venezuela
Posted by: guest77 | Mar 30 2014 17:54 utc | 112
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/03/24/edward-snowdon-hero-chris-hedges/
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article38036.htm
Fine,Paul Rigby. Then Paul Craig Roberts, right about Ukraine, is “naeive in the extreme.”
Ditto, Hedges, with whom I do not always agree, but would not call him naieve.
Posted by: truthbetold | Mar 30 2014 19:30 utc | 113
@85
Hes not bullshitting, hes just ignorant.
But I agree with you: Teddy was DEFINITELY a capitalist global internationalist. Thats why he was so gung ho about invading countries and ‘expanding American markets’. You know, the same thing modern neoliberal interventionists want.
The ‘regulating’ Teddy did of Wall Street was at Wall Streets request: They wanted the peoples trust restored.
It worked.
Posted by: Massinissa | Mar 30 2014 19:53 utc | 114
Debate on Scottish Independence with George Galloway and Jim Sellers.
I certainly hope Russia is getting in on the action. It’d only be fair to see them invest, say, $5 Billion?
Posted by: guest77 | Mar 31 2014 3:43 utc | 115
@115 oops. Here’s the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dld8w6VuGw
Posted by: guest77 | Mar 31 2014 3:43 utc | 116
Interesting piece a few days ago on Counterpunch, From Libya to Ukraine about State Department regime change under Obama, underlining HRC’s role. Parsons gleans through Clinton’s datebook to find patterns for what she was doing during four years of meeting with 1700 “world leaders.” The greatest amount of energy with those “world leaders” was spent in putting together a front group of “concern” for Libya, the LCG:
A review of Clinton’s Official State Department Travel Schedule as Secretary is worth more than a quick scrutiny especially when a series of ambiguous meetings in 2011 with the Libyan Contact Group (LCG) jumps off the page. Perhaps the LCG were a rag tag group of well-meaning Libyans caught up in the Arab Spring phenomena – but no, they were anything but. In a nutshell, the LCG was a US sponsored UN-like organization (but without the UN’s democratic principles) to provide the necessary political cover and create the illusion of international acceptance for the US illegal designs on Libya by fomenting a ‘rebellion’ to oust Muammar Qaddafi. Formed on March 19 in London, the original Libya Contact Group consisted of two dozen self-appointed countries lacking the international authority to make decisions and take action regarding the sovereignty of another country. The LCG had no legal standing, acted outside the standards of international law and was not accountable to anyone. It is politically noteworthy that the BRICS countries (Brazil, India, Russia, China and South Africa) all either refused to participate or only sent occasional observers.
From piecing together her meetings with the LCG (according to her official travel schedule), it is obvious that Secretary Clinton was the senior coordinator that brought all the loose ends together, the Superstar that made the illegal ouster of Qaddafi possible and destroyed the country of Libya.
Posted by: Rusty Pipes | Apr 1 2014 0:13 utc | 117
@guest77 (#115, #116);
Thank you very much for the link to the debate. I was occupied with other issues and I could not watch it before. I loved it.
I have the greatest admiration and respect for G. Galloway, and I found his argument much more compelling than Jim Sillars.
PS. Apart from the content of the argument (which I found Galloway’s much more convincing), there is an ethic of debate that one expects far more from the socialist camp. And to be perfectly frank Jim Sillar badly deviated from that ethic in calling Galloway an “English MP”. It was a very cheap shot.
Posted by: Pirouz_2 | Apr 1 2014 4:02 utc | 119
omg,
cia, mi6 leading investigation of possible terrarist attack on mh370 !
fox guarding the hen house ….
Posted by: denk | Apr 1 2014 16:49 utc | 120
to summarise,
lets not talk about the unknowns , lets not pull out our hair over unfathomable theories.
lets just talk about facts and math, probability theory to be precise.
here’r the facts we do know….
1]
* malaysia refused to play ball with the asia pivot to confront china,
*rejected the tpp,
*kl court indicted muricun war criminals,
*last but not least, dr mahathir called fukus *no 1 terrarists*
u could almost feel uncle sham straining at his leash over that one !
now the malaysian govt is in hot soup.
election coming up.
the globalist candidate is on a roll, like sharks sensing blood in water.
they failed the last time,
http://www.globalresearch.ca/malaysia-failure-of-u-s-to-subvert-the-elections-and-install-a-proxy-regime/5334439
http://malaysiaaktif.my/v2/index.php/News/Issues/Anwars-letters-to-Zionist-Carl-Gershman-Bared.html
but with this mh370 fiasco, the incumbent govt is cast as the villain de jour.
inept, bungling morons prolly with something to hide.
have u noticed all those western *journos* gleefully grilling malaysian officials to tears ? over the yrs, i’ve developed an acute sense to geopolitical theatre, do those *journos* have a hidden agenda ?
2] malaysia, thailand are the most friendly countries to china in asean,
now the thai pm yingluck is reeling from a possible civil war.
while malaysia n china have fallen out.
http://www.rense.com/general96/mh370.html
3]
the potential of *wonder chip* kl02 technology falling into china’s hand has been averted,[in fact, i understand the engineers are gonna test the next generation kl03 in tianjin, must’ve set off alarm bells in certain quarters ?]
http://www.rense.com/general96/mh370.html
lets do the math,
here’s ian fleming’s law in laymen’s terms…
*once is accident , twice is coincidence, three times ? enemy action*
i dont know if mh370 ends up in diego garcia, or bottom of scs or *gasp*, indian ocean, what we do know , well, lets say prob>0.9, this aint no accident. !
the next logical question is, cui bono ?
would we ever find out the truth, with cia/mi6/fbi the chief investigator now ???
Posted by: denk | Apr 2 2014 4:38 utc | 121
here’s kl03
http://www.engadget.com/2014/02/25/freescale-kinetis-kl03/
Posted by: denk | Apr 2 2014 6:19 utc | 122
tony cartalucci’s has written many expose’ of fukus shenanigans,but in thailand he seems to suggest the current unrest is a genuine grassroot repellion against a globalist govn.
from what i see, its just another fukus color rev to topple yet another govn friendly to china.
the pattern of events unfolding strongly support my conviction.
u cant argue with math,
ian fleming’s theorom rocks. !
Posted by: denk | Apr 2 2014 7:21 utc | 123
mh370
cui bono ?
who’s *chief investigator* ?
in any civi court, no way the chief beneficiary of an unatural death would be appointed to investigate the case !
but here’s its in one of the most bizzare air disaster of the century, intel outfits from those who stand to gain the most politically, are leading the probe ?
see how does it works ?
cia/mi6/fbi, what do we know about these lovely gents ?
known *al qaeda* handlers, black ops, ff specialists !
fabricating evidence is a standard tool of their trade !
i cant list them all but one example suffice.
framing china for a non *massacre* in tam,
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2011/07/01/commentary/black-info-and-media-gullibility-creation-of-the-tiananmen-myth/#.UzzfaKKMXBI
worse still, planting *evidence* to incriminate chinese indonesians as fifth columnists of an impending coup , sending millions of them to be chopped up like sacrificial lambs.
*The army’s anxiety was increased by rumors, throughout 1965, that mainland China was smuggling arms to the PKI for an imminent revolt. Two weeks before Gestapu, a story to this effect also appeared in a Malaysian newspaper, citing Bangkok sources which relied in turn on Hong Kong sources.106 Such international untraceability is the stylistic hallmark of stories emanating in this period from what CIA insiders called their “mighty Wurlitzer,” the world-wide network of press “assets” through which the CIA, or sister agencies such as Britain’s MI-6, could plant unattributable disinformation*
http://www.namebase.org/scott.html
* On 5 October a “political adviser” at the British intelligence base in Singapore reported to the Foreign Office in London that: “we should not miss the present opportunity to use the situation to our advantage… I recommend that we should have no hesitation in doing what we can surreptitiously to blacken the PKI in the eyes of the army and the people of Indonesia”. The Foreign Office replied: “We certainly do not exclude any unattributable propaganda or psywar [psychological warfare] activities which would contribute to weakening the PKI permanently. We therefore agree with the [above] recommendation… Suitable propaganda themes might be… Chinese interference in particular arms shipments; PKI subverting Indonesia as agents of foreign communists”.*
http://markcurtis.wordpress.com/2007/02/01/us-and-british-complicity-in-the-1965-slaughters-in-indonesia/
so now this bunch is in charge of the probe ?
malaysian police chief
*we may never know why plane disappeared*
now why’d he sound so pessimistic , when the world’s *top sleuths* are on the case ???
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-26847402
Posted by: denk | Apr 3 2014 5:13 utc | 124
didnt i say some western *journos* seem to harbor a hidden agenda ?
*Some irresponsible Western media have played a disgraceful role. They have published false news, stoked conflict, and even spread rumours.
“These could provoke the frail spirits of the next of kin and damage the good relations between China and Malaysia. We strongly oppose this,” Huang was quoted as saying by news portal Malaysiakini today*
http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/article/china-envoy-says-no-rancour-over-mh370
from the outset, i sensed that this could be a multipurpose ff.
*divide n conquer* appear to be one of its main aim.
those western journos knew what they’r expected to do.
Posted by: denk | Apr 3 2014 9:18 utc | 125
just what pm najib needs right now innit ?
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/03/us-malaysia-abduction-idUSBREA3207B20140403
*Last night’s kidnapping will likely fuel anger in China, whose citizens are still seething over Malaysia’s handling of the the MH370 crisis. The Boeing jetliner vanished without a trace of March 8 with 153 Chinese nationals on board.*
http://www.businessinsider.my/report-suspected-militants-took-women-tawi-tawi/#.Uz4u8KKMXBI
u betcha !
the pattern is so clear now only the blind would claim ignorance. [1]
this is undeclared warfare babe, the malaysians has had enough, no point mincing words now !
*Najib noted the abduction of two women, including a Chinese national, came as warm relations between China and Malaysia cooled over a missing Malaysian jet.
He said the abduction could increase the tension between the two countries, but expressed confidence that it would not cause their ties to be weakened.
“This must be avoided. There may be those who are attempting to drive a wedge between us and China. *
u can say that again buddy. !
thats my thought from day one of the mh370 saga.
http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/article/pm-sabah-abduction-possible-attempt-to-strain-china-malaysia-ties
[1]
*killing of chinese tourists in pak strain sino pak relation.
[cia’s ttp sought out n slain chinese tourists to…get this, avenge the fukus drone attacks !]
*bloodbath in manila, where 8 hk tourists died in a *botched rescue mission*, further strain sino ph relation.
*brutal murder of chinese sailors in mekong strain sino myanmar relation.
[mind u, this case is unprecedented, pop right out of the blue, while the *china out, fukus in* [2] campaign is in full swing]
*ph is upping the ante in the scs dispute.
*indonesia , the hitherto neutral claimant, just changed stance n declared opposition to china’s position, right after the obama/hagel visit.
*thailand, the most friendly country is in turmoil , yingluck’s rule is in peril.
*malaysia, which rejected the obama/hagel admonition to join the anti chinese posse, got hit with a double whammy !
najib might lose his post to the globalist candidate in the next election !
u cant argue with math,
here’s the first rule of probability theory
ian fleming
*once is accident, twice is coincidence, three times ?….enemy action !*
[2]
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2007/10/366140.shtml
Posted by: denk | Apr 4 2014 9:31 utc | 126
*Citing Filipino military sources, the Philippines social news network said the 6
men were former members of the Moro National Liberation Front (MNLF) faction of Nur Misuari but had since joined Abu Sayyaf.*
rings a bell ?
*Warnings from Washington were repeatedly given to Malaysia over the past few years. In late August 2013, Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel flew to Kuala Lumpur last year to pressure the Defence Ministry to cooperated with the strategic pivot through joint naval-and-air exercises directed against Chinese forces in the Malaysian-claimed islets in the Spratley group. These spits of rock and sand
located off of Sabah, the Malaysian state in northwest Borneo, have names longer than their diameters, for instance, Investigator Reef and Mariveles Reef.
At the same time, a mystery force led by a claimant to the title of Sultan of Sabah send a group of Filipino gunmen, allegedly trained by a retired American commando, attacked Sabah with a series of shootouts with the Malaysian Army.
US counterinsurgency troops happened to be operating in the southern Islamic-dominated areas of the Philippines, where the “sultan” recruited his desperado guerrillas.*
http://www.rense.com/general96/mh370.html
in philippines, everybody but everybody knows that….
abu sayyaf < mnlf < al qaeda < CIA !!!
http://osdir.com/ml/politics.marxism.analysis/2003-03/msg00205.html
http://abundanthope.net/pages/True_US_History_108/CIA-TERRORISTS-IN-THE-PHILIPPINES-IN-LEAGUE-WITH-THE-oLIGARCHS_printer.shtml
http://911review.org/Alex/Philippine_911_CIA.html
Posted by: denk | Apr 4 2014 16:25 utc | 127
the chinese tourist in sabah was kidnapped by the abu sayyaf terrarist outfit.
this is all about abu sayyaf, sabah and……. ….asia pivot.
http://www.declarepeace.org.uk/captain/murder_inc/site/gladio/030309Fake.html
i posted it several times before but in view of the current skullduggeries going on in scs, sabah, well worth re-reading.
it puts the mh370 saga n the sabah unrest all into context.
fukus has been trumpeting that *asia pivot* is a response to chinese *assertiveness* , i’ve said many times before, thats a *robber crying robbery* bs. this asia nato thingee has been in the works for the past decade at least , a proxy set up to provoke china in scs, ecs.
as for wot in philippines, another standard fukus trick.
fighting terrarist outfits which are on cia’s payroll !!
Posted by: denk | Apr 6 2014 3:43 utc | 128
http://aangirfan.blogspot.sg/2013/09/cia-terrorists-in-philippines-in-league.html
Posted by: denk | Apr 6 2014 4:06 utc | 129
najib
There may be those who are attempting to drive a wedge between us and China. *
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
chomsky
*the threat of good example *
[nobody cross fukus n live to tell the story]
over the yrs, china has been looking helplessly while its allies, trade partners got regime changed, co-opted, destabilised. [iraq, libya, sudan, nepal etc etc…..]
Japanese Ex-diplomat Accuses the sino-Japanese Rift Part of US Agenda:
The Truth Behind the Post-war History
+left to its own device, japan would rather not antagonise its largest trading partner, inspite of the simmering nationalism to revive past *glory*.
but all previous pm friendly to china got *taken out* by fukus,
paving the way for the rise of uber hawks like abe, who fell over himself to lick uncles ass. [1]
the myanmese caved in after clinton whispered into Thein Sein’s ear
*u wanna with us or….gadaffi ?*
http://www.voltairenet.org/article174240.html
+aquino was defiant at first, thats before the *enforcer* [2] worked her *charm* over the ph prez…
before,
ph foreign mininster
*uncle sham can fuck off.
It’s ASEAN and China. Can I make myself clear? It’s ASEAN and China. Is that clear enough?
http://www.energy-daily.com/reports/Philippines_says_US_not_needed_in_South_China_Sea_dispute_999.html
after
http://www.presstv.com/detail/186014.html
http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/us-ready-to-arm-philippines-amid-china-tension/93800/
fukus wants us to believe its always reluctantly *dragged* into a conflict,
but take a look at the pics, who’s the one appearing to be dragged kicking n crying to the table, who’s the one looking like running the *show* ?
[one wag commented that the ph foreign sec looked like a butler beside the mdm dowager]
but malaysia stood its ground…
repeated attempts by fukus color revolutions failed to unseat the incumbent.
imagine uncle sham straining at his leash over that one !
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/04/05/1081017106683.html?from=storyrhs
as late as May 09, 2013….
*For now, America has tripped in mid-pivot toward its hegemonic agenda in Asia, with Malaysia’s ruling government providing a model for other nations in the region to follow, should they be interested in sovereignty and independent progress – no matter how flawed or slow it may be.*
http://www.globalresearch.ca/malaysia-failure-of-u-s-to-subvert-the-elections-and-install-a-proxy-regime/5334439 [3]
less than a yr later….
we had the mysterious disappearance of mh370.
almost on cue, western media piled on the malaysian govt like a ton of bricks, painting it as utterly inept, corrupt, prolly complicit to boot. najib’s image was seriously tarred infront of his countrymen.
globalist candidate anwar gleefully pour fuel over fire, calling najib govt to be judged by the *international community*. [4]
and…a wedge has been driven bet sino/malay !
meanwhile,
why isnt yingluck [china n thailand are like relatives] smiling anymore ?
http://www.straitstimes.com/breaking-news/se-asia/story/thai-pm-yingluck-leaves-bangkok-bombs-gunfire-punctuate-unrest-20140224
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-04-02/thai-court-to-hear-case-that-could-topple-premier-yingluck
are these mere coincidences ?
do the math.
[1]
http://www.4thmedia.org/2012/10/17/a-japanese-ex-diplomat-accues-the-sino-japanese-rift-part-of-us-agenda-the-truth-behind-post-war-history/
http://dissidentvoice.org/2013/02/japans-abe-kowtows-to-u-s-imperial-elite/
[2]
http://www.japanfocus.org/-Gavan-McCormack/3059
[3]
tony catalucci’s had many good expose’ , but why is his analysis on thailand off base, lapse of judgement or a sophisticated psyop show’s its true color ?
who can u really trust these days ???
[4]
http://www.mole.my/node/28813
Posted by: denk | Apr 9 2014 3:39 utc | 130
paul wolf, aei, anwar
http://www.aei.org/article/society-and-culture/religion/anwar-ibrahim/
Posted by: denk | Apr 9 2014 4:18 utc | 131
soros is a god damned regime change machine all onto itself.
every single *revolution* since tam had his finger print all over it.
http://aangirfan.blogspot.sg/2011/07/murdoch-and-soros-in-malaysia.html
this fanancial predator obviously relish the role of a globe trottling king maker,
but in malaysia there’s an added *incentive*…
he had a score to settle with the much revered dr mohd mahathir.
the feud has been going on since soros attack on malaysian dollars in 1997.
http://www.nytimes.com/1997/09/22/news/22iht-soros.t.html
http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2012/09/28/Soros-is-back–after-15-years/
soros has been up to his eyeballs meddling in malaysian politics, is it too far fetched to assume his complicity in the mh370 caper ?
*If revenge is a dish best served cold, Soros has ice in his veins and waited till his dying days to gouge out a pound of flesh from Malaysia’s body politick. *
http://rense.com/general96/role.html
irrespective of what one might think of the rest of that article ?
Posted by: denk | Apr 9 2014 17:34 utc | 132
What is one to think of a government siding with dictators against its own citizens and their kin??
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then there’s australia.
like japan etc, oz was initially loath to shoot itself in the foot by pissing off its largest trading partner.
*Aussie Foreign Minister Alexander Downer hurriedly distanced himself from Rice’s rhetoric, and “welcomed China’s constructive engagement in the region,” and making it clear that Australia does not “support a policy of containment of China. We don’t think that is going to a be productive or constructive policy at all.”* [1]
but after a lowly muricun politico [Assistant Secretary of State for East Asia and Pacific Affairs, to be exact ] openly scolded oz as *a parasite freeloading on muricun tax payers* [2], the aussies meekly fell into line just like the others. [3]
and………….
indonesia under sukarno was non aligned.
the muricuns instigated genocide in 1965 turned it upside down.
from anti imperialist, indon became a pro muricun facist state.
but the muricuns were far from satisfied, they wanted the indons to join the *asian nato*, aka naato. they would stop at nothing to achieve that end.
see how paul wolf [who supports cfr’s poster boy anwar’s *democracy movement* in malaysia], rice, asscroft conspired to quash a murder case in indonesia,absolving the indon army of the murder of two muricuns so that uncle sham could get into bed with *our kind of guy* suharto with a *clear conscience* [4]
mission accomplished. [3]
as for those stragglers who havent join the muricun bandwagon, we all know what happen to malaysia n thailand ………
the groves are off now , it should be obvious from day one innit ?
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/utusan-sees-truth-in-theory-blaming-cia-for-mh370s-disappearance
breaking] i heard mh370’s remain *might be found in a few days time*
[1]
http://dispatchesfromtheedgeblog.wordpress.com/2010/07/07/tales-from-the-south-pacific/
[2]
http://www.4thmedia.org/2012/11/11/on-the-eve-of-obamas-trip-to-south-east-asia-to-re-ignite-the-cold-war-the-us-telling-their-lacky-australia-to-toe-the-line/
[3]
http://www.4thmedia.org/2012/11/28/australia-is-indeed-going-to-become-the-51st-state-of-the-usa/
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/china-vents-its-anger-at-australias-stand-on-airspace-rights-20131202-2ylye.html
[4]
http://dispatchesfromtheedgeblog.wordpress.com/2010/07/07/tales-from-the-south-pacific/
http://www.csmonitor.com/2000/0225/p11s1.html
Posted by: denk | Apr 10 2014 10:19 utc | 133
everybody knows that pentagoon has the scs, malacca straits, indian ocean under 24×7 surveillance by spy satellites, spy ships, spy planes n submarines.
+According to a Washington Post story, Australian intelligence intercepted phone calls from Indonesia’s then Commander-in-Chief, Endriartono Sutarto, discussing carrying out the ambush as a way to discredit the OPM and get the U.S. to declare it a “terrorist” organization.* [1]
+Several years ago some Australian members of parliament were given a security briefing where a video conference intercept of two of the most senior Malaysian military commanders was proudly shown to demonstrate Australia’s electronic surveillance abilities, where it implied the ability to access some of the most sensitive military and diplomatic communications in the region.* [2]
+aviation week
*the super radar had an official range of 3,000 km and is reportedly able to reach further into the South China Sea. It claimed that the facility could even pick out the type of aircraft taking off from Changi International Airport in Singapore.* [3]
so here’s the trillion dollar question…
why do the muricuns refuse to share the secrets recorded in its ultra sensitive radar stations in oz ?
muricuns always want to assume command in such ops just to show who’s the boss around here, so why are they contend to stay at the sideline in such a momentous event, a perfect venue to showcase their virility ?
mathias chang, legal adviser to dr mahathir offers a clue….
coz the muricuns want to force china to show its hand. [4]
with the whole nation , not to mention the grieving families, breathing down its neck, ccp cannot afford to hold back like the muricuns.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/disappearance-of-malaysian-airlines-flight-mh-370-the-trillion-question-to-the-u-s-and-its-intelligence-services/5375780
whats the aftermath of this mh370 saga ?
*najib’s govt got a massive black eye, anwar is on a roll,
regime change is possible.
*sino/malaysia fall out ,
*risk of high tech ending up in chinese hand averted,
*soros must be chuckling to himself,
*china’s defence capabilities prolly compromised.
there’r always conspiracy nuts who believe that these are mere coincidences.
i’d rather believe in science,
can we say, one stone kill five birds ?
[1]
http://dispatchesfromtheedgeblog.wordpress.com/2010/07/07/tales-from-the-south-pacific/
[2]
http://www.4thmedia.org/2013/11/11/has-an-out-of-control-intelligence-community-compromised-australia-in-the-asian-century/
[3]
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/missing-malaysian-plane-why-is-australia-silent-on-secret-radar-data/1/350162.html
[4]
in addition to that, what if they have something to hide, something that incriminate their complicity ?
Posted by: denk | Apr 11 2014 3:32 utc | 134
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n if u know anything about the evil one,
i wont be surprised if they pull something out of the blue
to incriminate the malaysian givt.
Posted by: denk | Apr 11 2014 4:22 utc | 135
wow, they’r really piling it on innit ?
*But worldwide bafflement at the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 has challenged the country’s paternalistic political culture and exposed its coddled leaders to the withering judgments of critics from around the world,[sic]” Mr Fuller wrote.*
http://www.todayonline.com/world/asia/mh370-malaysian-officials-poor-communicators-or-incompetent
i bet their poster boy anwar is already salivating at the coming feast eh ?
Posted by: denk | Apr 11 2014 5:00 utc | 136