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Posted by: brian | Mar 2 2014 13:26 utc | 3

On a lighter note, for those of you interested in prophecies Edgar Cayce – ‘Russia – The Hope Of The World’
The readings of America’s greatest psychic remain an extraordinary body of data which often stagger the reader with its prescience and projections of future events. Many years ago, during the cold war, I remember reading about how Cayce claimed – while in one of his self-induced trance sessions – some remarkable things about Russia.
Today, much of the world views Russia and the brilliant leadership of Vladimir Putin as the only hope of stopping the malignant and deadly spread of
world zionism. The signing of the new Russian-Iranian strategic gas and oil agreement on Sunday, July 13, further seems to underscore that any attack on Iran may bring Russia directly and immediately into the conflict on the side of peace and the preservation of a free and independent Middle East and – some would argue by extension – the world.
The following two excerpts from Edgar Cayce readings are quite extraordinary by any measure.
FIRST –
In this first short example, Cayce – in the 1930s – indicated the ‘sins’ of the key nations:
America – has forgotten “in God we trust”
England – conceit
France – lust
China – isolationism
India – internalization of knowledge
Italy – dissensions
He said “Russia will become beacons of hope for the world.” The statement about the ‘conceit’ (of the Zionist London Banksters?) in England is extraordinary. Just look at the Zionist conquest of Europe under the EU. The comment about America having forgotten “in God we Trust” is beyond eerily accurate. Remember, these statements were made in the 1930s
SECOND –
In this, more detailed account of his prowess, Cayce makes a number of nearly breathtaking projections –
Cayce predicted the beginning and end of both the First and Second World Wars, and the lifting of the Depression in 1933. In the 1920s, he first warned of coming racial strife in the United States, and in 1939 he predicted the deaths of two presidents in office;
“Ye are to have turmoils — ye are to have strife between capital and labor. Ye are to have a division in thy own land, before ye have the second of the Presidents that next will not live through his office… a mob rule!”
President Franklin D. Roosevelt died in office in April 1945. In November 1963, President John F. Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas, Texas, when racial tensions in the United States were at their height.
“Unless there is more give and take and consideration for those who produce, with better division of the excess profits from labor, there must be greater turmoil in the land.”
In October 1935, Cayce spoke of the coming war in Europe. The Austrians and Germans, he said, and later the Japanese, would take sides.
“Thus, an unseen force, gradually growing, must result in an almost direct opposition to the Nazi, or Aryan theme. This will gradually produce a growth of animosities. And unless there is interference by what many call supernatural forces and influences — which are active in the affairs of nations and peoples — the whole world as it were… will be set on fire by militaristic groups and people who are for power expansion.”
(This ‘unseen force’ is clearly the Zionist banking cartel and its forcing the US into WWII against Germany via the chicanery of FDR and the London and Wall Street Zionist banksters. Few remember that the Bolshevik Communist Zionist Jews were within a few weeks of a massive invasion of Germany and all of Europe when Hitler beat them to the punch with Operation Barbarosa, hoping to destroy Communism/Bolshevism once and for all.)
Through Russia, Cayce said “comes the hope of the world. Not in respect to what is sometimes termed Communism or Bolshevism — no! But freedom — freedom! That each man will live for his fellow man. The principle has been born there. It will take years for it to be crystallized; yet out of Russia comes again the hope of the world.”
Cayce also predicted the possibility of a THIRD World War. He spoke of strifes arising…”in Libya, and in Egypt, in Ankara, and in Syria; through the straits around those areas above the Persian Gulf.”
Later on, when asked in June 1943 whether it would be feasible to work towards an equitable international world currency or a stabilization of international exchange levels when the war (WW II) had ended, Cayce replied that it would be a long, long time before this would happen. Indeed, he said, “there may be another war (WW III) over just such conditions.”
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It does not get much more clear than that. The final paragraph from 1943 points to the world financial criminal cartel, doubtless the City of London banking and financial controllers, preventing the true and equitable stabilization of world economics after WWII ended. Today’s ‘exchange levels’ are being set by the world’s ‘currency’ masters – the oil and energy and banking cartels – and the control and manipulation of it all by this now not so ‘unseen’ force.
Cayce was peerless in his visions, and it appears that Mr. Putin and Russia are standing in the breach in terms of preventing, for the moment, the ‘unseen force’ (world Zionism) from taking total control of the West.
Russia is the only obstacle (‘the hope of the world’) to that, and the Bush/Cheney/Zionist cabal is unarguably attempting to force Russia into a war with the phony Bush protect-Europe-from-Iran ‘missile shield’ in Eastern Europe deployment efforts. Russia is now saying it will respond ‘militarily’ to such a deployment.
We are at the edge, seemingly very much along the lines ‘seen’ by Cayce over 60 years ago in the final year of his life. – Jeff Rense

Posted by: ProPeace | Mar 2 2014 13:55 utc | 5

Anyone suffering from the delusion that the Boxer Klitschko represents some sort of moderate-element in Ukraine should know that according to this Guardian “report” “Vitali Klitschko has called for parliament to convene and order a full mobilisation of the army”

Posted by: brb | Mar 2 2014 14:40 utc | 7

It’s hard to win the war when your army joins the other side
http://rt.com/news/ukraine-military-russia-resign-437/
http://consortiumnews.com/2014/03/01/ukraine-one-regime-change-too-many/
by Ray McGovern

Posted by: jo6pac | Mar 2 2014 15:04 utc | 9

Well, who would have expected anything else than dirty biased Russia-hating propaganda from a zamerican “newspaper” and then of all the nyt?
What I personally find far more interesting is *how* zusa (incl. its presstitutes) try to smear Russia.
Actually I dare to postulate that this is increasingly turning against themselves. Simply because, no matter the situation, zusa always realiably uses the same few textblocks (“democracy” (they), “illegal” (the other side), bla bla). Obviously this usually works. ukraine, however, is *not usual*. Putins/Russias actions and facts on the ground *clearly and obviously* mark zamerican propaganda as lies.
In Iraq, for instance, people had a chance to believe that somehow Hussein was a terrorist friend who produced weapons of mass destruction. It wasn’t easy for Joe Average to verify.
Now, however, it’s easy to verify, it’s obvious, zusa created the situation and this is well known and proven, and Putin hasn’t yet thrown a single bomb or launched a single missile. On top of it, he doesn’t need to because the ukrainian military, “zusas friends” run away from their units, many of them directly to the Russian side.
I can’t help but to sometimes wonder how the world, many countries of which had the opportunity to experience zusa as a victim of zusa themselves, will deal with zusa once its inevitable demise is further progressed…
I personally have reached the point of strongly trying to avoid zamerican products, avoiding zamericans, where not possible to confront them in open aggression “Where do we go mass murdering today?”), threatening owners of pubs and restaurants serving zamericans to stop going there (forever) and to campaign my friends and associates to avoid them, too and more.
If I happened to be a doctor I would even refuse to treat zamericans, no matter the circumstances, except for children.
And I know from friends in Latin America, whose country was actively victimized by zusa, that they would go *way* farther than myself. They’d kill every zamerican they could possibly get hold of in a dark corner.
I think, the price zusa is going to pay very soon will be extremely high and brutal. But still not brutal enough.

Posted by: Mr. Pragma | Mar 2 2014 15:14 utc | 11

If this is what passes as “Strategic thinking” in the US Government, then I’d hate to see them caught off guard.
It’s as if they had no idea any of this was coming. As if they had no idea Russia would, if it couldn’t defend its interests, at least defend its people. So they act surprised. They issue stern warnings. They discuss god-only-knows in their meetings – probably nuclear war, the end of all of us.
During the Georgia War, they actually considered sending troops and bombing the Roki Tunnel.

Inside the Bush administration, there was discussion of more robust action, like bombing the Roki Tunnel to block Russian troops or providing Georgia with Stinger antiaircraft missiles. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice bristled at what she called the “chest beating,” and the national security adviser, Stephen J. Hadley, urged the president to poll his team to see if anyone recommended sending American troops.

Oh how they must shudder when they realize they do not control the entire planet!
These freaks are in a bubble. They don’t talk to anyone, they just go hand out cookies to any fascist who will smile at them for half a second because they are so thoroughly hated in the world.
They threaten Russia with isolation, but it is them who will be isolated soon. The BRICS don’t need anything from anyone. The United States is like some mean boss who will be sorely surprised when the new factory opens across the street, and everyone up and quits on him.
This picture says all you need to know about neoliberalism: the fat, “feared” thug protecting the skinny disliked technocrat (“I will be the most unpopular PM ever!” I don’t even what to know what pathologies the CIA found useful in this scumbag) – both in the pay of the bankers from the “west”.
Read this gem, talking about “fighting communists” and “partisans” in the Russian east. Make no mistake – the west wants civil war:

Steven Pifer, a former American ambassador to Ukraine now at the Brookings Institution, said that if Russian forces tried to move into eastern Ukraine, “there will be some Ukrainian units that will resist, and a flood of people from western Ukraine saying, ‘This is my chance to be my grandfather and fight the Communists.’ ”

Does this fine Steven Pifer chap have any clue as to what he is saying? Would he be pleased to hear the Germans say “This is my chance to be like my grandfather” and shove him bodily into an oven?

Yuri Lutsenko, an opposition leader, reached out on Saturday to residents of eastern Ukraine who might be watching on television, saying the protesters who had populated the Maidan, or Independence Square, in Kiev had never harbored anger at those in the east.
“We reach out our hands from Maidan to Donetsk, to Kharkiv, to Dnepropetrovsk and to Simferopol,” he said, talking in Russian, which is spoken by many in the eastern part of the country.
Mr. Lutsenko also discouraged street fighters from arming themselves immediately. “The hour for a partisan movement has not yet come,” he said.

Get real. These fuckers have lost their minds. They are condemning who knows how many to death – and millions to suffering, just as they did in Syria.

Posted by: guest77 | Mar 2 2014 15:28 utc | 13

Easy, guest77, easy …
First, actually I consider it possible (but not necessarily probable) that zusa seriously thought Russia would do nothing. After all Putin showed many years of patience, always tried to find diplomatic solution, always played nice.
Then the nuclear bomb. Forget it. Some of those insane psychopaths might dream of it but they won’t seriously consider.
Simple reason: As things stand, Russia would end up heavily wounded and zusa would end up plain dead and inhabitable for millenia. Look at the relevant factors and you will find that Russias chances to completely destroy zusa, even in a response hit, are virtually 100% while zusas chances to create full destruction in Russia are virtually 0%.
“georgia war”
Forget it. Not comparable. In many respects. For instance: There simply isn’t a “Roki tunnel” to bomb for zusa. It’s zusa that had to go through more than one “Roki tunnel” this times.
Btw. “pifer” is a jewish name. Coincidence. Of course.
So: Easy, guest77, easy … and just a little patience. I checked the options. Thouroughly. And I know what to look for and the relevant factors.
Let me tell you: It’s no coincidence zusa blabbers, warns, and farts a lot – and doesn’t do much.
Furthermore: If one wants to go into a situation like that, one wants to do it *early* and preferably surprisingly. Those very important elements are both on Russias side.
And then there is the big potential second trap: China. As soon as zusa does so much as try an intervention that wasn’t necessarily doomed to fail from the start the China trap will spring and, oops, zusa is in a two front war with the two major powers and they have all advantages (like proximity to each other) and zusa has nothing but the shitpot.
If zusa ever wanted to react militarily they had to do it earlier, way earlier. Now they are basically check mate. They just don’t want to understand it.

Posted by: Mr. Pragma | Mar 2 2014 15:50 utc | 15

To stop U.S./Zionist tyranny, the BRICS (Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa) including other countries, like Venezuela, other Latin American countries and Iran who view what the U.S. is doing as madness and a threat to world stability and peace should get together and find a way of replacing the U.S. dollar as the international reserve currency. The way to stop the U.S. and for that matter Zionist-driven foreign policy in its tracks is in the pocketbook! Sinking the dollar and replacing it with another currency is one of the major ways to reign in U.S. imperialism. Establishing an alternative to the G8 is antoher. Russia needs to step up and make this happen before we’re all doomed to becoming the pawns of U.S./Zionist imperial hubris.
Putin was right to return to the Russian Presidency. We need someone like him to turn things around. This IS the time; this is the moment in history that must be seized. Radical changes must be made now to achieve world balance and stop U.S. hegemony that is greedy and irresponsible in every way. The BRICS needs to step up and lead this change, otherwise we are doomed to this evolving American/Zionist tyranny destroying our freedoms.

Posted by: kalithea | Mar 2 2014 16:11 utc | 17

@18
Not stupid as much as insane I would argue. Totally and completely fucking murderously insane. Once you abandon any semblance of acting like a human being – and American leaders long ago gave up that “nonsense” – you open doors to places that people should never go as you’ve become untethered from reality. They really do believe that “they create their own reality” now. The false flag of 9/11 was the starting gun for this complete and utter abandonment of rationality. It may have been a conscious decision at first but now they are either – as you say – just on psychopath auto-pilot or following some secrete mandate of which the outcomes are equally mad.

Posted by: JSorrentine | Mar 2 2014 17:09 utc | 19

@ JSorrentine | Mar 2, 2014 10:12:44 AM | 10
Carved in granite, that CBS quote from Kerry would look good above each column of names of 9/11 WTC victims.
What a chicken. How come he didn’t say it in Kabul or Baghdad?

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Mar 2 2014 17:11 utc | 21

@ pRagmat #11: Putin despises people like you.

Posted by: ProPeace | Mar 2 2014 17:53 utc | 23

Why is the Kiev junta calling for military mobilization, i.e. calling in the reservists? Do they not have an army already? Evidently not.
If the coup had been successful, then it would be time to stop the anarchy and restore law and order. Normally, by this time you would see tanks and troops all over the capital. So far I have not seen any organized professional security on the putschist side. (Forgot. This is not a coup, this is a revolution!)
So far this is not a military conflict, but a non-violent one à la Gene Sharp. (The Crimea is a separate case, but is already irrevocably lost.) There is no immediate military threat on Ukraine; Russia is extremely reluctant to interfere or invade. Control of the standing army should be sufficient for all immediate needs.
The conclusions one must draw:
1) The junta intends to violently suppress any separatism or non-compliance.
2) The junta has no control of the Ukrainian military, apart from their web servers.
to enlarge the army.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Mar 2 2014 18:35 utc | 25

@17 i totally agree with this quote of yours. ” Sinking the dollar and replacing it with another currency is one of the major ways to reign in U.S. imperialism.” question is – how does that happen when oil is priced in us$? the bretton woods agreement continues to favour a continuation of us$ hegemony.
@18 – i tend to agree with @19 on his take of your comments.

Posted by: james | Mar 2 2014 19:04 utc | 27

in fact the so called ‘insurrection’ in hungary in 1956 was an anti jewish pogrom. sold war warriors have concealed that favt ever since

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Mar 2 2014 19:19 utc | 29

@30,the green party is a tool of the empire,one tool right one left it has been like this for a very long time.There are no mainstream parties that work against the empire parameter,not in zusa nor in zeu!

Posted by: Nobody | Mar 2 2014 19:36 utc | 31

@26 Next up, s/he’ll have some Nostradamus scrolls for us. “And the eagle and the bear will clash on blah blah blah…”
…
Listening to Obama and other politicos, you just realize how Orwellian the world has become. Everything is upside down. It just the same old horseshit. He continually invokes “The Ukrainian People” as if it is some magic word. As if this is a thing that is even possible to discuss after all that has occurred.
I hope that the demons in hell have turned up the temperature on that drunken bum Yeltsin’s rotisserie, because it is on him to a great degree that the blame for this falls.

Posted by: guest77 | Mar 2 2014 20:05 utc | 33

“The current culture within the Pentagon, CIA, NSA and the Department of Justice/FBI has developed accepting the good vs. evil dialectic developed for talk radio audiences and those who believe professional wrestling is real.”
Brilliant!

Posted by: guest77 | Mar 2 2014 20:36 utc | 35

@36
Are you sure you’re not the source of those rumors?
I don’t think such a conspiracy could work out.
Even if they did manage to keep a few – only to sale the plutonium to Iran or whoever buys it.

Posted by: Sergey | Mar 2 2014 21:56 utc | 37

Ukraine mobilizes:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/02/us-ukraine-crisis-idUSBREA1Q1E820140302
Russia – IMO – WILL NOT give up their Black Sea fleet stationed at Sebastopol without a fight. Russia will do whatever it takes to defend that fleet. No, the world WILL see more violence.
Depending on the actions of the Ukraine we could see a rift between the eastern and western part of the Ukraine. And then the eastern part will join Russia.
Given the fragile state of the world economy the EU & US have been playing with dynamite by supporting the Ukraine.

Posted by: Willy2 | Mar 2 2014 23:00 utc | 39

If the Black Sea fleet would fall into Ukranian hands then the US would have free reign in the Black Sea.
This could lead to a nuclear war. Read this transcript:
“AMY GOODMAN: Can you talk about significance of this, in terms of nuclear warfare in Russia? Do we have anything to fear along those lines?
COL. SAM GARDINER: Absolutely. Let me just say that if you were to rate how serious the strategic situations have been in the past few years, this would be above Iraq, this would be above Afghanistan, and this would be above Iran.
On little notice to Americans, the Russians learned at the end of the first Gulf War that they couldn’t — they didn’t think they could deal with the United States, given the value and the quality of American precision conventional weapons. The Russians put into their doctrine a statement, and have broadcast it very loudly, that if the United States were to use precision conventional weapons against Russian troops, the Russians would be forced to respond with tactical nuclear weapons. They continue to state this. They practice this in their exercise. They’ve even had exercises that very closely paralleled what went on in Ossetia, where there was an independence movement, they intervene conventionally to put down the independence movement, the United States and NATO responds with conventional air strikes, they then respond with tactical nuclear weapons.”
Source: http://www.democracynow.org/2008/8/11/up_to_2_000_killed_as

Posted by: Willy2 | Mar 2 2014 23:14 utc | 41

@41 From the interview “McCain wants to throw Russia out of the G-8. That is absolutely the worst thing the United States could do…”
And here we go again…

Posted by: guest77 | Mar 2 2014 23:37 utc | 43

According to the Opposition narrative in the closing days of the Maidan, the white armband is a device the Titushki (government provocateurs) use so that they can identify each other. This is supposedly “according to numerous reports”
http://www.interpretermag.com/ukraine-liveblog-intense-violence-in-kiev/
although if you google the phrase “except for white ribbon armbands so they can identify each other” you will find all the reports use exactly the same wording and it is very likely a sound bite fed by the opposition to journalists, which would allow protesters wearing while armbands to commit whatever acts of vandalism they chose and blame it on the government. This was the opposition line from early on – that its protesters were peaceful and just sang and waved flags and signs while all those who attacked the police were actually Titushki who were doing it to make the activists look bad. Although the Titushki were plainly able to move freely in their hundreds among the peaceful protesters, nobody ever captured one, although they were able to capture several of the Berkut riot police who one would think would make much tougher targets.
So I suppose the intent of the white-armband bunch who tried to take over public buildings is the groundwork for an Opposition accusation that Titushki are operating in the Crimea and attempting to frame the peaceful opposition. Why would government provocateurs attempt to gain control of a building which is already under control of the forces they wish to win the conflict?

Posted by: Mark | Mar 3 2014 1:07 utc | 45

46) I don’t find historical parallels helpful – they hide more, than they explain. There is too much history in the area already.
Like in a sorcerer’s trick we are made to look at “the people’s power of Maidan” and not see what was going on:
– a liberal/Western ultranationalist/fascist alliance
– a coup outside of elections and political discourse
– a political programme designed to cause tension
– the justification of armed struggle/insurrection within Europe in European mainstream media – all those historical parallels doing the same trick
In a German context it would be Westerwelle/Merkel uniting with Thuringian/Saxonian NeoNazis in front of Brandenburg Gate to take power from a Grüne/Socialdemocrat/Die Linke government by the barrel of the gun.
German politicians very wisely form coalitions across the political center to avoid this scenario. We lived trough this catastrophe before.

Posted by: somebody | Mar 3 2014 9:22 utc | 47

By the way, I love Angie more and more. Didn’t she say “I am between the devil and the deep blue sea, and that’s a very uncomfortable position for a German chancellor,” just 3 days ago, and this was a direct allusion to Ukraine, in my opinion.
No wonder the BBC and MSM have made the whole speech hard to find… (I linked to it 2 days ago but cannot find it anymore, neither through the bbc website or through google, although i find the video of the speech)

Posted by: Mina | Mar 3 2014 10:15 utc | 49

Europe has worked very fine for Britain in bailing out their bankrupt universities with millions of euros in “projects” and “EU scholarships” while their universities were already very expensive to start with!

Posted by: Mina | Mar 3 2014 11:06 utc | 51

A BBC journalist looks with anxiety at the only democratic possibility: a referendum:
“Mark Lowen BBC News, Sevastopol
tells the BBC World Service’s World Update programme: “The concern for Kiev is that if Crimea is finally lost, if it is annexed by Moscow or indeed when they hold an independent referendum as is planned in a month, could this spread to eastern Ukraine proper, to cities like Donetsk and Kharkiv, where there have been large pro-Russia demonstrations? Will the Russian groups there look to Crimea and say, ‘Well, if they can do it, so can we’?” ”

Posted by: Mina | Mar 3 2014 11:30 utc | 53

Oh the staggering hypocrisy and the irony! Here is what Obama stated a few moments ago in the Oval Office in the presence of the Zionist Netanyahu and his Zionist entourage:
“What cannot be done is for Russia with impunity to put soldiers on the ground and violate basic principles that are recognized around the world. And uh I think the strong condemnation that its received…indicates the degree that Russia is on the wrong side of history on this. John Kerry’s gonna be travelling to Ukraine to indicate our support for the Ukrainian people.”
What he SHOULD HAVE said at that TIMELY meeting is:
What cannot be done is for Israel with impunity to put soldiers on the ground and violate basic principles that are recognized around the world. And uh I think the strong condemnation that its received…indicates the degree that ISRAEL is on the wrong side of history on this. John Kerry’s gonna be travelling to the Palestinian Territories to indicate our support for the Palestinian people.
Just imagine what the reaction of the Zionist masters would be???
How do you say NO MORAL AUTHORITY whatsoever???

Posted by: kalithea | Mar 3 2014 20:52 utc | 55