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February 3, 2014
Smaller Protests Show Yanukovych Weakened?

Can someone reconcile these two parts from a NYT report about Ukraine? First:

On Sunday, tens of thousands of demonstrators gathered in Independence Square here in the capital, … Rather than being placated by any of the concessions, the opposition has grown emboldened by the evidence that Mr. Yanukovych’s position has weakened.

So "tens of thousands" show that the president Yanukovych's position has "weakened". But what then is this further down in the piece?

Though large, the turnout was far lower than at the movement’s peak in early December, when more than 100,000 people gathered on three successive Sundays.

The protests are far smaller now but that is a sign that the president's position has weakened? How does that fit?

The attempts by the U.S. and the EU to now bribe Ukraine with more empty promises will not work.

In an interview with The Wall Street Journal, EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton said Western powers were working on a financial plan for Ukraine whose numbers "won't be small" and won't hinge on Kiev first agreeing upon a long-term International Monetary Fund agreement, whose financial conditions Kiev has had difficulty complying with.

However, she said the money was contingent on the new Ukrainian government pursuing economic and political reforms.

U.S. officials said the goal was to convince Mr. Yanukovych to make a series of political reforms, including appointing a "true" technocratic government that would then start to make the tough economic changes sought by the IMF.

It makes no economic sense for Ukraine, which depends on exports to Russia and on natural gas from Russia, to turn away from Russia and towards a predatory "west". Any IMF program, which would lend money just as Russia is willing to do but with much more destructive conditions, would likely be very harsh for the people. They know this and are not willing to give in.

The U.S. and the EU are inciting the hard-rightwing and fascist "opposition" in Ukraine. The western darling Klitchko has called for the creation of "self-defense groups". One hopes that this call will be ignored like his previous two calls for a general strike which no one followed.

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There’s a brief story in our morning newspaper which I’m sure you’ve seen to rhe effect that the Opposition is calling for Western mediation of the dispute in an exact replay of the Syrian gambit. They can’t succed without outside help and outside money, but in this case there’s no Bandar Bush to bail them out. It is starting to look like Yanukovich’s soft line with the demonstrators was the correct one. He can wait them out. For the demonstrators it will be like what they said on the Republican side of the Spanish Civil War: ‘We won all the songs.’

Posted by: Knut | Feb 3 2014 13:40 utc | 1

The protests are far smaller now but that is a sign that the president’s position has weakened?
How does that fit?

NewSpeak?
Yankees outsmarting themselves?
Couldn’t be bothered, or haven’t figured out how to go about, dreaming up a story that makes sense?
The funny thing about the non-revolution revolution is that the Yankees could have just stfu and pretended that it doesn’t matter if Putin scores a point every now and then. But, apparently, they really do believe all their Superpower horseshit.
It’s one thing to find oneself on the losing team, but way beyond bizarre to create a losing team and then become an inaugural member…

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Feb 3 2014 15:02 utc | 2

I hope the Ukraine can resist the false hope the moneyed interests of the West are offering. It’ll only lead, I fear, to ruin, for the working people of the Ukraine.

Posted by: ben | Feb 3 2014 15:26 utc | 3

I too read the NYT story written by David Herszenhorn, who like nearly all the paper’s foreign policy reporters stick closely to whatever State Dept. script is being peddled at the moment, and thought the same thing: This guy is trying awfully hard to make the Kiev protests sound legitimate. Herszenhorn makes special mention that the “demonstrators reflected a broad mix of Ukrainian society, including parents towing children by the hand…” See, they’re just a bunch of flower-power peace-loving folk who want entry to the EU. Never mind the Svoboda goon squads manning the barricades.
This can’t end well. Klitschko and Yatsenyuk are demanding unconditional surrender from Yanukovych — “full control of the government, including the Interior Ministry.” What else can Yanukovych do but crack down?

Posted by: Mike Maloney | Feb 3 2014 16:45 utc | 4

In an interview with The Wall Street Journal, EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton said Western powers were working on a financial plan for Ukraine whose numbers “won’t be small” and won’t hinge on Kiev first agreeing upon a long-term International Monetary Fund agreement, whose financial conditions Kiev has had difficulty complying with.
However, she said the money was “contingent on the new Ukrainian government pursuing economic and political reforms.”
That is to say – Extreme Austerity, Special Trade Courts and Repatriation of Capital to EU/US – either way
Like the man who spent 20 years proving that the great Plays were not written by Shakespeare of Avon; but by some other writer, who, by an amazing coincidence, was also named William Shakespeare?

Posted by: rackstraw | Feb 3 2014 16:53 utc | 5

In fairness, I have no faith that Yanukovych will rise to the occasion. Some leaders prove themselves in a crisis (like Assad refusing to leave Damascus when it looked like the capital could fall, even after his own defence minister was killed in a suicide bombing during a cabinet meeting). Assad responded by visiting the front lines in Damascus and rallying the troops.
Other leaders prove themselves weak in crisis and Yanukovych is certainly one of them. The man is bending over backwards to accomodate these fascist scum, thinking they will settle for concessions, when they are looking for a coup against a democratically elected leader.
Then comes the news that Yanukovych has taken some sick leave? What the fuck is that about? Could the man look any weaker if he tried?
He should travel to Eastern Ukraine where his support is, and gather an army of pro-Government protesters to descend on Kiev and beat the fascists back with a passionate message comparing the situation to the World War 2 resistence against fascism. Also expel the EU-US diplomats already. They have broken all the norms of diplomacy and should be lucky they aren’t hanged for conspiring to start a civil war.
The Ukrainians are some tough men, it baffles me that they are responding so weakly to this. Yanukovych needs to find his balls before making any move.

Posted by: Colm O’ Toole | Feb 3 2014 17:00 utc | 6

Colm,
“…travel to Eastern Ukraine where his support is, and gather an army of pro-Government protesters to descend on Kiev and beat the fascists back…”
Maybe a good idea, maybe not, because it could possibly be what the West is hoping, in order to mount a NATO R2P campaign. I suspect Yanukovitch has consider it, and Putin, but until the Sochi games are over we won’t see any such plan implemented. After the games are over, all bets are off.

Posted by: okie farmer | Feb 3 2014 18:06 utc | 7

Colm it is not a good idea to mobilize citizens in Eastern Ukraine to travel to Kiev to confront the fascist led crowds. They would be entering enemy territory or least a region that is predominantly anti-Russian. Those from the East would be perceived as Russian invaders and would likely mobilize the population of Kiev and surrounding counties confront such a Russian invasion. It could get ugly very fast. That would be a path toward civil war.
My sense is that the fascist elements that are rioting inside Kiev do not have broad support today in Western Ukraine. What you are suggesting would propel the fascists into the leadership of a mass movement.
I tend to agree with you that Yanukovich is showing weakness but his passive response is beginning to isolate the street thugs. He has some very hard decisions to make and I certainly would not want to in his shoes right now.

Posted by: ToivoS | Feb 3 2014 18:25 utc | 8

Currency Ukrainian hryvnia (UAH)
From what I understood through MMT (modern monetary theory) it is possibly very damaging to have loans in a foreign currency.
see Bill Mitchell’s billy blog

Posted by: c | Feb 3 2014 19:07 utc | 9

How the West Manufactures “Opposition Movements”
by ANDRE VLTCHEK
Government buildings are being trashed, ransacked. It is happening in Kiev and Bangkok, and in both cities, the governments appear to be toothless, too scared to intervene.
What is going on? Are popularly elected administrations all over the world becoming irrelevant; as the Western regime creates and then supports thuggish ‘opposition movements’ designed to destabilize any state that stands in the way of its desire to fully control the planet?
***
They are shouting and intimidating those who want to vote for the moderately progressive government that is presently leading Thailand. There is no dispute over the electoral process – voting is generally free, as both international observers and most of the local Election Commission members agree.
Freedom, legitimacy or transparency is not what is at stake now.
The rhetoric varies, but in essence, the ‘protesters’ are demanding the dismemberment of the fragile Thai democracy. Most of them are paid by the upper-middle and upper classes. Some of them are thugs, many hired for around 500 Baht a day (roughly US$ 15) in the villages of the restive southern provinces of the country. They are accustomed to the use of violence, their body language and facial expressions clearly show it.
etc
http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/02/03/west-manufactures-opposition-movements/

Posted by: brian | Feb 3 2014 21:52 utc | 10

how would a US or UK govt react to similar thuggish rebels trashing their capital cities? esp if aided by states like russia

Posted by: brian | Feb 3 2014 21:54 utc | 11

It makes no economic sense for Ukraine, which depends on exports to Russia and on natural gas from Russia, to turn away from Russia and towards a predatory “west”.
I totally agree with this. If there is any one that thinks my country Amerika is coming to help you get freedom then I got news for you we are only good at ripping your country apart and killing/displacing thousand if not million of citizens. That’s all we do and be smart throw all ngo out of your country.

Posted by: jo6pac | Feb 3 2014 23:15 utc | 12

I completely agree with TovioS @7, and more, I think Yanukovitch is playing a ‘passive’ game with a purpose – to let a majority of Ukraine see the fascists for what they are, in order to set himself up for the next presidential election. Like in Syria where Assad would/will win he next election, Yanukovitch will too. Rope-a-dope politics.

Posted by: okie farmer | Feb 3 2014 23:30 utc | 13

Just as was the case in Yugoslavia, recently Sudan, Germany and its leadership (Helmut Kohl, Hans-Dietrich Genscher, Joska Fischer, etc) are instrumental in geopolitical Western expansion which has caused numerous wars and havoc in targeted countries. In a case Ukraine, Germany and Poland lead the way.
http://euobserver.com/foreign/122948

“”We think the opposition’s claims are justified. It should be possible to protest freely. It should be possible to express one’s opinion. And there is, I think, a great need for change in Ukraine,” Merkel said Friday (31 January) during a press conference in Berlin.
She was speaking alongside Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk, who had travelled to the German capital to talk exclusively about the situation in Ukraine, where violence continues and where the army on Friday warned of civil war.”

Some here mentioned that the Ukraine’s President is “weak”, it could be that a case. But I think, that “opposition”, i.e. those behind them – Western sponsors, would like to see some kind of bloodshed in a streets of Kiev. It would be God send event.
In this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF0cZiTOubI&list=UU0-BJmmq9v7sDwoEM5Xao8Q&feature=share&index=3 one can see military trucks in obviously a side streets of probably of Kiev city. Army is there, very first truck is Command and Communication vehicle, BMP is in background. Some other kind of “weakness” is there; the Western NGO’s are in full capacity there, so Ukraine is in need of “detoxification” of the Western influence. While the boxer is bizarre one, Femen is the most prominent one.
A money that Catherine Ashton mentioned is BS, this is not about money! I posted this couple days ago and I’ll do it again. 101 of International Relationship in plain language.
http://youtu.be/yHV8Fu6gdqU
US and EU are not after strategic relationship, or partnership. There are like hyenas. Moscow is offering all kind of cooperation to Ukraine which the Western fascists are not mention. Ukraine has significant aero-space capacity and know-how. The West is not in business of development of domestic/host country industry, contrary monopoly capitalism is in business destroying competition.

Posted by: neretva’43 | Feb 3 2014 23:58 utc | 14

“In an interview with The Wall Street Journal, EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton said Western powers were working on a financial plan for Ukraine whose numbers “won’t be small””
This would be a grave mistake if Ukraine accept a cent of their printing presses. They can produce endless quantity of “money”, we see what is happening with Turkey and Argentina, India, Brazil currencies. Any dependencies upon the west, or any form of fictionalization, is grave mistake.

Posted by: neretva’43 | Feb 4 2014 0:06 utc | 15

is should state “any form of financialization”

Posted by: neretva’43 | Feb 4 2014 0:09 utc | 16

jo6pac. Ripping countries apart is what the US does.
Serbia — lost Kosovo and Montenegro.
Iraq — The Kurds are nearly autonomous and Western provinces are headed towards a Sunni dominated state.
Libya — Tripoli has lost control over its Eastern half and it is only a matter of time for a new state to be announced there.
Sudan — US and Israeli subversion has been gnawing away at that country for two decades, it seems they failed in Darfur but South Sudan was their success.
Syria — will be lucky to survive intact.
Ukraine is ripe for dissolution. The Black Sea provinces and the lands East and North of the Dnieper River speak Russian and if the US and the EU succeeds in provoking a civil war those regions will likely ally with Russia. This would leave the Western Ukraine dependent on Europe and the US. I think that is the goal of these policies. I can’t imagine that Putin would like to see this happen because it would mean that region becoming a member of NATO. This is really reckless for it would not be unimaginable that Russia just might militarily resist such an outcome. They did it in Georgia and Europe and the US backed down once Russia sent in the troops. Ukraine, even if it was only the Western part would be a bigger prize, so maybe Germany and the US (via Poland) would join the democratic Ukrainian forces in resisting Russian “aggression”.
Could anyone think that Russian and German armies would go to war in the Ukraine? Well it happened twice in the 20th century.

Posted by: ToivoS | Feb 4 2014 0:29 utc | 17

Seemingly unrelated, but is speaking of the Western democracies.
“The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. …We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of.”
and second one:
http://wallstreetonparade.com/2014/02/a-rash-of-deaths-and-a-missing-reporter-–-with-ties-to-wall-street-investigations/
“In a span of four days last week, two current executives and one recently retired top ranking executive of major financial firms were found dead. Both media and police have been quick to label the deaths as likely suicides. Missing from the reports is the salient fact that all three of the financial firms the executives worked for are under investigation for potentially serious financial fraud.”
“The case of David Bird, the oil markets reporter who had worked at the Wall Street Journal for 20 years and vanished without a trace on the afternoon of January 11, has this in common with the other three tragedies: his work involves a commodities market – oil – which is under investigation by the U.S. Senate’s Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations for possible manipulation. The FBI is involved in the Bird investigation.”
A last sentence is joke. Violence is major “cultural” product of the US, which is successfully exported throughout the world.

Posted by: neretva’43 | Feb 4 2014 0:47 utc | 18

Posted by: ToivoS | Feb 3, 2014 7:29:01 PM | 16
“Serbia — lost Kosovo and Montenegro.”
Your lack of elementary facts is astonishing, yet you still dare to comment and having to say something. Are you American?

Posted by: neretva’43 | Feb 4 2014 0:59 utc | 19

#18 I have no idea what you are saying. After the breakup of Yugoslavia (another example of Western intervention breaking up a country but I didn’t include it in my list because the US did not play a role in that event) an entity emerged that included modern day Serbia, Montenegro and Kosovo. The US and the EU worked hard to divide those into three different countries, even going to war to slice off Kosovo. What is your objection?

Posted by: ToivoS | Feb 4 2014 1:31 utc | 20

Humans have not grasped the consequences of nuclear weapons nor climate change. Rather than working together to end ethnic and tribal conflict and carbon fueled transportation; there has been a surge in pollution and war profiteering; plus, austerity for the jobless. These actions are the ultimate in risky business with no cares about the outcome. They are a consequence of the Elite being handed a get out of jail card. They’re free to pillage anyway they want.
Syria and the Ukraine are the dirges for the end days that humankind is bringing upon itself.

Posted by: VietnamVet | Feb 4 2014 1:43 utc | 21

The Ukraine Government is doing the right thing.
You have the west standing there as if their presence protects free speech and peaceful protest, but they are really just waiting on their tip toes ready to pounce – so let them see how long they can hold that awkward position.
At some point the rising level of violence, and the zero-sum nature the opposition is playing the contest will have the average Ukrainian saying thinking twice about what is happening behind the scenes. The average Ukrainian cannot like seeing McCain and Lieberman in their country, nor months of raging violence.
There must be some graph here – a rising line of protest violence meets another of public interest. After the public becomes fully aware of the trick – then it is over and the government can come and mop up.

Posted by: guest77 | Feb 4 2014 1:55 utc | 22

@16
the new style warfare: colourcoded,custom designed for whatever thugs you have on hand or can import be they neonazis or neojihadis: all rolled into a palatable mix by the mainstream and left wing medias and HR groups
cheap, politically safe, violent, expendable units

Posted by: brian | Feb 4 2014 3:46 utc | 23

Self-defence groups!, like in Mexico against drug lords by the government incompetence at least! This deceived Ukrainian guys lacks imagination and just pretend be up dated, later they become Zapatistas, I guess. Lets remember Ukrainian government has not be as cruel with protesters as in Greece, Spain,…even US

Posted by: Rihard | Feb 4 2014 6:21 utc | 24

from Vineyard Saker blog:
aturday, February 1, 2014
In the meantime, on the “Ukrainian front”
According to the BBC Western leaders are having a great time in Munich: they are re-igniting the Cold War under the pretext of – what else? – “supporting democracy” in the Ukraine:
European Council President Herman Van Rompuy said the “future of Ukraine belongs with the EU” while US Secretary of State John Kerry said the US backed Ukraine’s “fight for democracy”.(…) Mr Van Rompuy’s opening speech referred to the EU’s offer of close association with Ukraine. “The offer is still there and we know time is on our side. The future of Ukraine belongs with the European Union,” he said. Mr Kerry launched a broad attack on “a disturbing trend in too many parts of Central and Eastern Europe and the Balkans”. He said: “The aspirations of citizens are once again being trampled beneath corrupt, oligarchic interests – interests that use money to stifle political opposition and dissent, to buy politicians and media outlets, and to weaken judicial independence.” Mr Kerry added: “Nowhere is the fight for a democratic, European future more important today than in Ukraine. The United States and EU stand with the people of Ukraine in that fight.” He said the “vast majority of Ukrainians want to live freely in a safe and prosperous country – they are fighting for the right to associate with partners who will help them realise their aspirations”. In an apparent swipe at Moscow, he added that “their futures do not have to lie with one country alone, and certainly not coerced”. (…) The White House has confirmed it is discussing possible sanctions against Ukraine with the US Congress. Before arriving in Munich, Mr Kerry said that concessions from President Viktor Yanukovych had “not yet reached an adequate level of reform”.
Ain’t that something? When Yanokovich does exactly *nothing* to stop the neo-Nazi rioters from burning cops, seizing government buildings, threatening to “go on the attack”, calling for the overthrow of the government and openly calling for the intervention of foreign powers the West considers that as “trampling upon democracy”. But when Eltsin orders his tank to shoot at the Russian Parliament and kills thousands of civilians the West gives him full support.
Go figure…. Democracy is so complicated to understand….
In the meantime, Yanukovich has made it known that he has the flu and that he needs some time off to recover. Seriously, I kid you not. The Ukraine is on the edge of a civil war, and that fat clown is on “sick leave”.
Which raises a question in my mind: who is the most despicable person and the most pathetic President – Eltsin and his vodka or Yanukovich with his flu?
Now, there is good news coming from the Crimean Peninsula: the government of the Crimea and authorities of the city of Sevastopol have come to a full agreement. They have jointly decided to create and mobilize a “citizen militia” which will act in support of the Peninsula’s police forces. In other words, the Crimean authorities are preparing to secede from the Ukraine if the regime in Kiev falls. Furthermore, they are preparing to defend Crimea against any possible attempt by the nationalist to take it by force. Truly, they have no choice in this matter because the nationalists all want to kick out the Black Sea Fleet form Sevastopol, revoke the special status of the Crimean Peninsula, and “Ukrainify” it. For the people of Crimea a nationalist coup in Kiev is truly an existential threat.
As for Russia, I can only repeat what I wrote earlier: Russia will not directly intervene in this conflict. The only exception to this principle would be a violent attempt by nationalists to seize Crimea by force. In that case there is no doubt in my mind that Russia will intervene militarily, even at a risk of a confrontation with NATO.
Personally, I think that the West will order the nationalists to refrain from trying to take Crimea by force. Whether these rabid psychopaths will listen is anybody’s guess.
http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.fr/

Posted by: okie farmer | Feb 4 2014 8:14 utc | 25

Zen
After #Geneva2 #DrJaafari tells of how #SNC apologized to Syria for lies they themselves told.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJkKHsOcwjs

Posted by: brian | Feb 4 2014 11:57 utc | 26

March in Qudsaiya (syrian Golan) in support of army against terrorism
http://sana.sy/eng/21/2014/02/03/525935.htm

Posted by: brian | Feb 4 2014 11:59 utc | 27

@24
‘democracy’ is rule BY the people..not rule by politicians who claim to represent the people

Posted by: brian | Feb 4 2014 12:19 utc | 28

cartoonist Steve Bell shows us how even those who youd think should be aware of events are not”
Medialens wrote to Bell:
Hi Steve
Regarding this week’s cartoon on Assad’s ‘selfie’, are you not at all sceptical about the timing, accuracy and provenance of the recent report on Syrian government killing and torture? You’ll know that the report was commissioned by the Qatari government which, according to the Financial Times, has bankrolled the ‘rebels’ to the tune of $3 billion in weaponry and other support.
Isn’t it obvious that Qatar timed the release of the report to provide an ideal backdrop for media discussion (cartoons included) of the Geneva II peace conference? Should that not encourage a little caution and scepticism?
Sincerely
David Edwards (January 23, 2014)
After an emailed nudge requesting a response, Bell replied:
Dear David Edwards
I’m quite aware of the role of the Qatari government in the Syrian disaster, just as you are well aware of the record of the Assad regime’s security apparatus. Timing is important, as is the need to keep our eyes open.
Best wishes
Steve Bell (January 24, 2014)
No doubt many Guardian readers would consider it Bell’s job to lampoon instant acceptance of questionable propaganda, and indeed stonewalling replies of the kind he sent us in response to our questions.
http://medialens.org/index.php/alerts/alert-archive/2014/754-not-even-close-to-reality-filtering-sources-on-the-syrian-war.html
no wonder the masses and esp muslims are confused

Posted by: brian | Feb 4 2014 13:14 utc | 29

When David Edwards calls Steve Bell “respected as a rare radical voice at the Guardian,” he is just arse-licking, frankly. There’s nothing to be confused about. Everybody knows what the Graun is: it’s the centre-left of the Labour Party. That’s Mr Milliband’s party. You remember him, don’t you? The Hampstead Zionist offspring of the Hampstead Marxist dad. You know about the English Labour party, don’t you?

Posted by: Rowan Berkeley | Feb 4 2014 13:23 utc | 30

Among the “peaceful protesters” sponsored by the IMF and Soros cabal are vocal supporters of radical nationalism that celebrate Stepan Bandera and UPA who commited unspeakable genocide against polish popultion on the german-occupied territory Genocide Commited By Ukrainian Nationalists:”.. hacking Poles and Jews with axes, throwing wounded victims into wells, sawing people alive, horse-dragging, eye-gouging, pulling out of tongues, and other atrocities … murder thal took place there to be combined with the cutling off or pulling out of parts of the body, sawing, ripping open of the stomach, disembowelment, and so on…”

Posted by: ProPeace | Feb 4 2014 21:03 utc | 31

The Bell selfie cartoon imitates the famous Blair selfie photo portrait….as if president Assad is to be compared with real life war criminal Blair

Posted by: brian | Feb 4 2014 23:59 utc | 32

Is Ukraine on the verge of a civil war?
I’d say no, considering the protesters are dwindling. And Yanokovich is doing the right thing by keeping the thugs at Euromaiden instead of scattering them so they can create mayhem undetected.

Posted by: Skye | Feb 5 2014 5:34 utc | 33

When I suggested that Yanukovych may be playing a rope-a-dope strategy, I hadn’t seen this article from Strategic Culture Foundation (rather like US Stratfor).
Ukraine Leader Eyeing Early Elections Over Use of Force – Lawmaker
News | 04.02.2014 | 16:27
Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych says he is prepared to hold early presidential and parliamentary elections in the country if no other solution can be found to the ongoing political crisis, his political ally has said.
The country’s government resigned last week, and demonstrators who have occupied the center of Kiev since November are demanding the resignation of Yanukovych.
“The president said: ‘If we politicians can’t reach an agreement now … then the only democratic way of resolving the situation is early elections,’” Yuri Miroshnichenko, a lawmaker from Yanukovych’s Party of the Regions, told Ukrainian television channel ICTV.
Miroshnichenko said the president has ruled out the use of force to liberate Independence Square, the heart of the mass anti-government protests where barricades have been erected and a protest camp set up.
“I will never do that, because these are also our citizens,” Miroshnichenko quoted Yanukovych as saying.
Following the Cabinet’s resignation last week, Yanukovych went on sick leave for what the presidential website said was an acute respiratory illness, prompting the country’s opposition to accuse him of inaction amid the ongoing political crisis. He returned to work Monday.
The demonstrations were sparked in November by Yanukovych’s last-minute decision to back off from signing landmark trade deals with the EU. The protest movement has since transformed into a loose coalition of opposition groups seeking Yanukovych’s ouster.
The largely peaceful demonstrations in Kiev spilled over into violence last month, and up to five people have been killed.
RIA Novosti
http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2014/02/04/ukraine-leader-eyeing-early-elections-over-use-of-force-lawmaker.html

Posted by: okie farmer | Feb 5 2014 5:46 utc | 34

Dylan ‏@ProSyriana 8h
ِ+18: #Syria-n man Ahmad Ali entered a hospital in #Antakya for a minor head injury, where his organs were harvested. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS12zcSlkjY&feature=youtu.be

Posted by: brian | Feb 5 2014 7:43 utc | 35

my email to Truthdig on acting as pimp for BBC attack on Gaddafi
February 5, 2014 at 6:05pm
Hello Truthdig:
This is what appears on your site this morning:
We all know the late Libyan dictator was a deplorable man, but now, thanks to a BBC documentary released Monday, more details of his depravity have come to light. Among the most harrowing occurrences uncovered are the kidnapping and rpe of hundreds of boys and girls as young as 14 years old. After being chosen by the dictator on visits to schools and colleges, the teens were then taken to his specially designed rpe chambers, one of which could be found in Tripoli University along with a gynecological suite where girls were tested for diseases before being abused by Col. Moammar Gadhafi.
The documentary, titled “Mad Dog: Gaddafi’s Secret World,” also revealed other grotesque acts, such as his orders to shoot down a Libyan Arab Airlines airplane, resulting in the deaths of 157 people.
http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/gaddafi_would_test_teenagers_for_stds_before_raping_them_in_his_sex_dungeon
No Truthdig, WE don’t all know the late and great leader Muammar Gadafi was a deplorable man: that’s your deplorable assessment and based on,..what? (see below for a different assessment)
It used to be the dead were respected: not made the object of propaganda attacks.
You, whoever you are, may have seen the BBC video, I haven’t… and you’ve not analysed the BBC piece to let us know the validity of its claims. However, someone else has : Here is the basis for this BBC propaganda video:
‘Like other tyrants, Gaddafi used torture and murder to silence opposition, but what made his rule especially terrifying was that death came so casually. A man who complained that Gaddafi had an affair with his wife was tied between two cars and torn in half. On visits to schools and orphanages Gaddafi would tap underage girls on the head to show his henchmen which ones he wanted. They would be taken to his palace and abused. Young boys were held in tunnels under the palace.”
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/30-01-2014/126728-bbc_gaddafi-0/
So the BBC ‘documentary’ begins with the axiom that Gadafi was a ‘tyrant’,has henchmen/pimps, then proceeds from there to build a case against him. Is this how the media usually works? Man was torn in half? Cast your mind back to the baby incubator story:
http://www.antiwar.com/orig/cohen1.html
We know that the BBC is british state media and has waged propaganda wars on Libya for years as it does now against Syria. So far they’ve not made a BBC documentary as to whats in Syrias presidential basement…but that must be in the works in the BBCs basement!
Fortunately, there are sites that have more self respect than to surf newsprn sits like the BBC. For a bit of context, here is an article on Gadaffi written while he was a live and could respond;
‘Under the revolutionary leadership of Muammar Qaddafi, Libya has attained the highest standard of living in Africa. In 2007, in an article which appeared in the African Executive Magazine, Norah Owaraga noted that Libya, “unlike other oil producing countries such as Nigeria and Saudi Arabia, utilized the revenue from its oil to develop its country. The standard of living of the people of Libya is one of the highest in Africa, falling in the category of countries with a GNP per capita of between USD 2,200 and 6,000.”
This is all the more remarkable when we consider that in 1951 Libya was officially the poorest country in the world. According to the World Bank, the per capita income was less than $50 a year – even lower than India. Today, all Libyans own their own homes and cars. Two Fleet Street journalists, David Blundy and Andrew Lycett, who are by no means supporters of the Libyan revolution, had this to say:
“The young people are well dressed, well fed and well educated. Libyans now earn more per capita than the British. The disparity in annual incomes… is smaller than in most countries. Libya’s wealth has been fairly spread throughout society. Every Libyan gets free, and often excellent, education, medical and health services. New colleges and hospitals are impressive by any international standard. All Libyans have a house or a flat, a car and most have televisions, video recorders and telephones. Compared with most citizens of the Third World countries, and with many in the First World, Libyans have it very good indeed.” (Source: Qaddafi and the Libyan Revolution)
Large scale housing construction has taken place right across the country. Every citizen has been given a decent house or apartment to live in rent-free. In Qaddafi’s Green Book it states: “The house is a basic need of both the individual and the family, therefore it should not be owned by others.” This dictum has now become a reality for the Libyan people
etc
http://blackagendareport.com/content/libya-getting-it-right-revolutionary-pan-african-perspective
Do I believe the BBC? Not at all..any more than the lying NYT with its WMDs in Iraq. From babies in incubators to sex dungeons, the western media and now leftusts blogs have acted as pimps for the US/UK war machines.
Strange how for all those years before his wanton murder by a toxic mix of americans politicians, eurotrash and Islamic terrorists You’ve now joined the desplorable company of a people like this person:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_x04Gn3-2g
Meanwhile a man who knew Gadafi nmuch better and had been to Libya, Nelson Mandela makes no mention of any of these claims…he does know that it was Gadafi not the US or UK govt of media pimps who aided ending SA apartheid
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/05-01-2014/126547-mandela_gaddafi-0/
The BBC ‘documentary’ is clearly propaganda of the ugliest sort, by a media of a state that is till stewing over the loss of its empire
SHAME on you and your now worthless site smearing a dead man, who cant defend his character against this sort of deplorable gutter media attack
SHAME!
Regards
Brian

Posted by: brian | Feb 5 2014 8:03 utc | 36

we live in interesting times! dare i say Thank god for MEMRI? jihad is the only solution for syria? so says islamic cleric Choudary…. note he targets syria iraq and iran….that is shias.,,.he is advocating genocide…no wonder this twisted rationalist thinks the Geneva Conventions are the work of the devil!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwFK1I1ehjA&feature=youtu.be
jihad = religious warfare since when has war ever been a solution? the problem with Choudary is he argues for what is the supreme war crime with vigorous reason….how many young muslims has he persuaded to go and kill in syria?

Posted by: brian | Feb 5 2014 9:01 utc | 37

Well, b is right; there are – of course – (il)logical ruptures and contradictions in that article.
But that’s not new nor news.
Neither is the news’ content. It’s merely the n’th (sorry, counting those got me tired) implementation of the western “strategy”, which basically comes down to “our militaries are quite weak nowadays, so let’s use the media and politician whores and have them lie and poop and brainwash day and night and everywhere”.
Unfortunately, an interesting point has stayed largely unnoticed.
Turkeys Erdogan has been snubbed once more (by merkel, yes the same merkel that supports klitchko) when “mentioning” (read “begging for”) Turkeys EU association.
Funny that she reacted almost confrontingly; funny because Turkeys economic power, no matter their current currency troubles, is a multiple of Ukraines. Funny also because Turkey served well as an obedient third class zato slave for decades.
Yet, Turkey get’s a short cut “No” while the west is willing a high price, or more precisely, let the Ukrainian people pay a high price or, frankly, any price, to have Ukraine associated (with plenty of mil. details, of course).
Putin should be happy. Why?
Because the western wannabe and ex-powers drive Turkey towards SCO, quite probably incl. its mil. arm. At the same time the western “occupation”, criminal disrespect, and gross abuse of Ukraine in the end will be but a major ad campaign to convince even potentially western leaning Ukrainians that joining the west will simply make their country and themselves a quick meal for zato vampires.
And they should. Because even a very considerable part of the zio-eu population distrust and detest their politicians as well as their media. And while many of them don’t know (or care) much about international issues, they *do understand* that both, Ukraine and Turkey got and get humiliated; like themselves (if they dare to see reality).
Another and very important issue: This, Libya, Syria, and now Ukraine is *not* about “west vs east”, “democracy vs. despotism” – it is about zusas (and its minions, whores, and dogs) survival. The question in the core is *not* “will the western powers win?”. It is simply “How much and many will the western demons take to hell with them or at least badly damage?” and about pushing their demise again and again for some more months.
Someone here wondered about a zusa “r2p” meme. No way. They don’t and won’t dare.
Ceterum censeo israel americanamque delenda esse.

Posted by: Mr. Pragma | Feb 5 2014 10:38 utc | 38

Mr. Pragma, thanks for the thoughts on Russia and Turkey.
A Turkish-Russian alliance would be very, very appealing for both countries.
Turkey could get some say so in Syria and the rest of the Arab world this way. Russia would have much less to worry about in the ‘stans and in the Caucuses. No doubt that just to historical and demographic factors, Russian influence in Central Asia is likely to decline – better it be replaced by Turkish than Saudi/Gulf influence. And better a partnership with Turkey if the chance is there to completely shut out the Wahhabis.
Easing the Turks away from NATO would be a brilliant move. And the Turks have every reason to desire it: Their alliance with the US they play eighth fiddle to Israel, whom at the end of the day they must always kowtow. Their relations with the EU are an embarrassing lesson in European racism and diplomatic snobbery. Not only is the NATO alliance add nothing of value for the Turks diplomatically, it positively wrecks any chance the Turks have at all to be a major player in the Arab world.
To reiterate (or to be redundant, as I know I always am): It seems that the Turks can spend the next decades waging an difficult war for influence in Central Asia with Russia, Iran, India, and China – likely being shut out of their historic areas of influence all for the “benefit” of being snubbed by their Western partners – or they can join in as a partner building the new Silk Road and tell NATO to get lost.
The Turks no longer have a Soviet invasion to fear – if they ever did. Their role in NATO is serious liability at this point.

Posted by: guest77 | Feb 6 2014 2:39 utc | 39

guest77
Let me extend those thoughts to a point I indicated but possibly didn’t make clear enough.
In the zeu-association contracts there is (demanded by zeu (on demand of zusa)) a major part about submitting to and inviting zato in all but name.
Turkey, on the other hand, already is a zato “member” (read “satellite” or “slave”) and *does* (or “did”?) desire to become a zeu member.
Now, the one who is not in zato does get a zeu contract, be it by being lured with golden promises or be it, if needed, by riots and military threads. The other one, who is in zato does not get the zeu admission.
It seems this explains a lot. In particular it suggests that zeu partnership de facto is more about zato than zeu.

Posted by: Mr. Pragma | Feb 6 2014 3:23 utc | 40