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February 27, 2014

GCHQ Wankers

Somewhere, a British spy is wanking to your last naked video chat:

The document estimates that between 3% and 11% of the Yahoo webcam imagery harvested by GCHQ contains "undesirable nudity". Discussing efforts to make the interface "safer to use", it noted that current "naïve" pornography detectors assessed the amount of flesh in any given shot, and so attracted lots of false positives by incorrectly tagging shots of people's faces as pornography.

How much "desirable nudity" do those GCHQ analysts look at?

There seems to be more concern at the GHCQ for "protecting" its staff from seeing some pornography-like pictures than there is for the privacy of millions of normal people. Is that the right balance?

Those who argue against these untargeted "collect it all" attempts by the spy agencies will soon be confronted with this counter-argument: "People who show "undesirable nudity" during their webchats are severely hindering the essential work NSA and GHCQ do. They are thereby objectively SUPPORTING THE TERRORISTS!"

Posted by b on February 27, 2014 at 14:28 UTC | Permalink


Next: "People who show "undesirable nudity" during their webchats are hindering NSA and GHCQ work and are thereby SUPPORTING THE TERRORISTS!"

LOL and thanks

Posted by: jo6pac | Feb 27 2014 14:46 utc | 1

This is all meant to 'protect' the people...

The security organization of many Western countries have been reduced to spying on their own people's daily activities..The people have now become the enemy..Sad state of affairs, indeed..

Posted by: Zico | Feb 27 2014 14:49 utc | 2

I'm sorry to say this.....

The most logical thing for a terrorist to do now is to

a) get a dick pngs or lots of them

b) write nonsensical messages on on top of the dick pics

c) send it

d) gets intercepted by GCHQ/NSA.

e) forces them to watch dick pics; done correctly, no automated pgm exists to crack the text without seeing the image.

f) TEH GAY strikes within

g) tells his wife/office buddies "I watch dick pics everyday to save you from terrorists"

h) Has to use these dick pics as presentation material for his bosses that Person X is a terrorist due to messages written on top of pic; or spend time blackening it out.

i) die a little everyday(literally/figuratively)

j) The world's best porn collection is now with the NSA, as they'd be forced to collect all pics.

k) Like the stasi, get overthrown (one can wish...)

l) 4chan gets the largest stash of porn

m) WIN all around.

Posted by: shanks | Feb 27 2014 15:14 utc | 3

Incredibly creepy.

Note that NSA declined to answer any questions about whether they have access to OPTIC NERVE or if they have a similar system.

Will those questions be asked in our so called oversight hearings?

Posted by: gemini333 | Feb 27 2014 15:51 utc | 4

Duct tape, people. Duct tape right over your cam lens. Also seems like a great market for little fish-eye lens adaptors and other creative manipulations. As well as a market for cam/lens and microphone free devices. Interesting no major makers seems to be offering.

Posted by: Eureka Springs | Feb 27 2014 15:53 utc | 5

Yes, of course they are. As we all

Posted by: Christopher Fay | Feb 27 2014 16:44 utc | 6

I guess an OT was not the appropriate venue for this:

Perhaps this thread might be more apt but it is only tangentially related to the thread’s theme.

"How Covert (NSA) Agents Infiltrate the Internet to Manipulate, Deceive, and Destroy Reputations"
By Glenn Greenwald

....One of the many pressing stories that remains to be told from the Snowden archive is how western intelligence agencies are attempting to manipulate and control online discourse with extreme tactics of deception and reputation-destruction. It’s time to tell a chunk of that story, complete with the relevant documents.....

Posted by: juannie | Feb 27 2014 17:05 utc | 7

I believe the correct term is plonkers
not wankers

Posted by: chris m | Feb 27 2014 17:21 utc | 8

I always thought 'wanking' was a strictly British euphemism. Not to say that I think the NSA is above such activities, but they are going to be a little bored with the only thing they see on my webcam. My heartfelt conviction is that the only thing I make public about myself be something I wouldn't mind my mother reading or viewing.

Posted by: Jim T | Feb 27 2014 17:37 utc | 9

look at enougn of that and you wil need therapy

Posted by: brian | Feb 27 2014 21:36 utc | 10

A few days ago I was sitting in front of my PC and the bright light behind the 2MP Webcam came on. As I never Skipe, I wondered what was happening.
And then I wondered no more.
Welcome to the world of facial identification.

Posted by: Hal Duell | Feb 27 2014 22:48 utc | 11

Hal, the first time I was playing around with my then new smartphone - late last year I think it was - it snapped a pic of me(actually just my forehead, lol) which, while temporarily appearing in the swipable 'recent apps' for this short session, never was recorded to the phone's visible memory.

The pic was taken the first time I switched the camera from rear-facing to front-facing so that must be how it's programmed to 'go off' or whatever. I had taken one or two pics immediately before, which were stored as they should have been.

Anyway, I've told quite a few people this and everyone thinks I'm crazy...

Posted by: L Bean | Feb 27 2014 23:01 utc | 12

Maybe it's the people who are wearing clothes who are supporting the terrorists, by hiding parts of their bodies from the authorities.

Posted by: lysias | Feb 27 2014 23:45 utc | 13

The lives of us ordinary, powerless people are open books to these parasitic bastards ...

Their side, the opposite side, is all secret : TAFTA and the TPP, the real data on glyphosate, GMOs, the full set of data on pharmaceutical trials, planetary engineering, the wheeling and dealings of the banksters, all the information on Big Brother released by Edward Snowden ...

It is us vs them. We are many they are few.

Posted by: john francis lee | Feb 28 2014 0:23 utc | 14

crimean tartar leaders asy they dont support the coup regime...onlty some wahhabis do

Татарская община Крыма перешла на сторону России
27 февраля 2014 2 комментария
Пророссийские силы поддерживает Татарская община Крыма. Об этом в интервью информационному агентству «IslamNews» известный крымский общественный деятель, заместитель председателя Совета представителей крымско-татарского народа ( СПКТН) при Президенте Украины Васви Абдураимов. По его словам, на данный момент бандеровцев и майдан поддерживает лишь немногочисленная ваххабитская группа внутри татарского сообщества Крыма.

«Крым отчаянно бьется с бандеровской нечистью. Слово за Россией. Если РФ не хочет окончательно и бесповоротно потерять братскую Украину как дружественную страну, если она хочет получить границу НАТО у себя под Смоленском, пусть сидит и смотрит, как крымчане пытаются сами смести эту бандеровскую нечисть, которая полностью финансируется и вооружается холодными прагматиками из Вашингтона и Брюсселя. Но наших ресурсов недостаточно», — сказал он.

Crimean Tatar community sided with the Russian
February 27, 2014 2 comments
Support pro-Russian forces Tatar community of Crimea. In an interview with news agency «IslamNews» Crimean known public figure, Deputy Chairman of the Council of Representatives of the Crimean Tatar people (SPKTN) under the President of Ukraine Vasvi Abduraimov. According to him, at the moment Banderivtsy maidan and support by just a few Wahhabi group within the community Tatar Crimea.

"Crimea desperately fights the evil spirits Bandera. Word for Russia. If Russia does not want to finally and irrevocably lose brotherly Ukraine as a friendly country, if she wants to get at the NATO border near Smolensk, let sits and watches the Crimeans themselves trying to sweep away this evil Bandera, which is fully funded and armed with cold pragmatists from Washington and Brussels . But our resources are not enough, "- he said.

Posted by: brian | Feb 28 2014 1:12 utc | 15

This story doesn't surprise me at all. Imo, 'security', as a vocation attracts people with delusions of grandeur and omnipotence, with an appropriately warped moral compass which, among other traits, embraces 'exceptionalism' (for themselves). Many have gravitated (sunk) into 'security' because of failure elsewhere. The classic example of this is the high proportion of private security guards who failed to become policemen.

Security work can be unremittingly boring and repetitive and there's a constant search for relief from the ennui. Given the psychological and moral flaws in people who wind up doing 'security' work, it's almost inevitable that pornography would become the diversion du jour. So the story is probably a result of including pornography in the legitimate realm of spying merely to make it less risky to be caught watching porn during working hours.

There are some "pretty sick puppies" in the 'security' industry.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Feb 28 2014 1:25 utc | 16

@15 There is a trial for an NYPD cop who was arrested for having plans to cook and eat women.

So yeah. These are the people who shoot people 50 times for having a wallet. And shove broomsticks up suspect's asses.

Ship them off to Iraq and make them big shots and you get Abu Gharib. Now imagine the kind of fucktards that are ruling Ukraine...

Exporting the American Nightmare all across the globe.

Posted by: guest77 | Feb 28 2014 2:03 utc | 17

ad 15.
I suspect one wouldn't have to dig very deep to uncover examples of security/surveillance company employees supplementing their income by blackmailing 'suspects' they've stumbled upon during the course of their "work".

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Feb 28 2014 2:33 utc | 18

"Exporting the American Nightmare all across the globe."

I would say that it is more like the opposite:
Import the developing world's nightmare (created for them by the West) back into the USA.

Police methods, brutal suppression, intolerance for dissent is the other side of the coin for "liberalism". With the diminishing rate of profit (resulting in diminishing rate of growth) capitalism's smiling "liberal" face turns into the frowning face of "fascism". Previously police methods had to be used in Chile, Egypt, Indonesia, Iran etc. while a high growth rate and rising productivity of labour together with the threat of "socialism" meant that in the core imperialist countries capitalism could afford and also had to (because of socialist threat) maintain rising life standards for their working class. The police methods were more instrumental in the periphery where the productivity of the labour was low, and where the working class was being brutally robbed by the imperialism. Nowadays with persistent trend of diminishing growth rate in the core imperialist countries, they are forced to resort to the fascistic methods more and more openly and frequently. The smiling face of liberalism is fast turning into the frowning face of fascism.

Posted by: Pirouz_2 | Feb 28 2014 2:35 utc | 19

Hoarsewhisperer, I know a 50something year old woman who after her husband died got a job with TSA in OKC airport. When I asked her why she was willing to drive 50 miles to work for $7.50/hr, she replied, "Oh, inspecting luggage lets you snoop in peoples private lives, it's like being a voyeur, except it's official." When I pointed out that 100 miles a day reduced her effective pay to about 3.85/hr, she was undaunted, admitting that she wasn't doing it for the money.

Posted by: okie farmer | Feb 28 2014 6:34 utc | 20

@ 20.
Other people's luggage is an excruciatingly sad place to look for something 'new' to fill a painful vacuum in one's life. I wonder if she realises what she's doing? And why it isn't working?

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Feb 28 2014 11:27 utc | 21

@20 Oh god, that's scary, and sad. I knew someone like that. She considered herself to be such a good woman. Her job was giving estimates for a moving van company. So she would go through people's houses estimating the amount of things and cost to move it. Then she would go gossip about the people who allowed her into their homes, and tell her online friends all about what she saw. Of course the stories where she could look down on someone and give some juicy details were her favorites. I was disgusted by it.

Posted by: gemini333 | Feb 28 2014 15:17 utc | 22

Hmmm......well, I think I'll moon my camera, (chheks spread wide), take the shot, print it out, and tape it to my desk chair's back.

That way, when Im otherwise occupied away from the computer, they'll have something to look at that fully illustrates my opinion of them.

Posted by: PissedOffAmerican | Mar 1 2014 2:46 utc | 23

Somewhat tangentially to the thread, but nevertheless cogent to Online Onanism, is this:


"The Sabey Corp. has contracted with the Douglas County Public Utility District for 30 megawatts of electricity for its new Intergate.Columbia LLC data center in East Wenatchee, Wash., according to the Seattle Post-Intelligencer. If the company were to use all of its contracted power, that would amount to about one-third of the PUD’s anticipated local demand of about 90 megawatts, said Bill Dobbins, general manager of Douglas County PUD. “This is a big deal,” said Dobbins.

There are even bigger deals right in the neighborhood, as Microsoft Corp., Google and Yahoo Inc. are building facilities in the area that have arranged for even larger amounts of power. Microsoft’s project in Quincy, Wash. has contracted for a maximum of 48 megawatts of power from the Grant County PUD. Yahoo is building a data center in Wenatchee and has contracted for 42 megawatts of power, according to the Seattle paper. Google does not release its power contract figures.

The Grant County PUD owns and operates the two-dam Priest Rapids Project on the Columbia River in central Washington. Together, the Priest Rapids and Wanapum dams make up one of the nation’s largest hydropower developments, with the capacity to produce 2,000 megawatts of electricity. Grant County PUD says it offered the internet companies rates that would range from 2.5 cents to 3.8 cents per kilowatt-hour in its first five years — far below the national industrial average of 6 cents to 7 cents."


OK, it's old news that MS, Yahoo and Google blade servers use up the power supplies of the two largest dams on the Columbia River, all subsidized by US taxpayers to Bonneville, then subsidized again at the e-interface, then subsidized again by Comcast and Verizon e-slaves.

Now this:

"‘Serious problem’: 65-foot crack found in Columbia River dam. A massive crack in a major Columbia River dam poses enough of a risk of dam failure that Grant County authorities have activated an emergency-response plan. Inspectors found a 65-foot crack in a Wanappum dam below Vantage on the Columbia River, prompting the Grant County PUD to begin lowering water levels by more than 20 feet. Wanapum currently can generate more than 1,000 megawatts of power."


Which brings US back to cyber-pron. The US is Pron-Central, and now 58% of internet blade server traffic (and 100s of precious megawatts) are being wasted on pumpkin-headed argle-bargles up-downloading WhatApp pron, YouTube inanities, 6-second selfies, Flikr stupid pet tricks and generally proving that, 'We deserve to die for what we did.'(from 'Kill Bill')

As HRH Hillary would say about GCHQ, "What DIFFERENCE does it make?!"

Posted by: Chip Nikh | Mar 1 2014 5:22 utc | 24

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