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December 28, 2013
Open Thread 2013-29
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Some Xmas weekend reading: Posted by: Colm O’ Toole | Dec 28 2013 20:58 utc | 1 Would you say that Russian and Iranian military might is not as good as they claim to be? If it is,, how come they can’t get rid of a bunch of apes with AKs? Posted by: Shoes | Dec 28 2013 21:43 utc | 2 re 1 Posted by: alexno | Dec 28 2013 21:55 utc | 3 re 1 Zahran Alloush Posted by: alexno | Dec 28 2013 22:05 utc | 4 Shoes, Posted by: ralphieboy | Dec 28 2013 23:04 utc | 5 @1 does that muslim sisterhood also want to wage war on syria? Posted by: brian | Dec 28 2013 23:07 utc | 6 If you ever get a chance to see Hunger (2008), the feature-length debut of Steve McQueen, the director whose 12 Years a Slave is still in theaters, make sure to check it out. Posted by: Mike Maloney | Dec 28 2013 23:52 utc | 8 The hostile takeover of the USSA by the Israeli 5th column is nearly complete. Posted by: john francis lee | Dec 29 2013 0:08 utc | 9 @ Alexno Posted by: Colm O’ Toole | Dec 29 2013 0:09 utc | 10 The hostile takeover of the USSA by the Israeli 5th column is nearly complete Posted by: john francis lee | Dec 29 2013 0:10 utc | 11 Would you say that Russian and Iranian military might is not as good as they claim to be? If it is,, how come they can’t get rid of a bunch of apes with AKs? Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Dec 29 2013 3:14 utc | 12 If this is, in part, a post-Morsi regime thread it should be obvious, as it was in June, that the coup was a good news- bad news story. Posted by: ToivoS | Dec 29 2013 3:29 utc | 13 http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-28/new-new-great-game-geography-energy-dollar-and-gold Posted by: spiuk1 | Dec 29 2013 4:29 utc | 14 Posted by: Paul | Dec 29 2013 5:45 utc | 15 Reports on communication with Shaaban’s office regarding suicide of British Doctor baseless Posted by: brian | Dec 29 2013 6:26 utc | 16 Posted by: Colm O’ Toole | Dec 28, 2013 7:09:21 PM | 9 Posted by: brian | Dec 29 2013 6:28 utc | 17 part backtrack – New York Times
This was clear to any physics teacher immediately after the attack. Posted by: somebody | Dec 29 2013 8:25 utc | 19 This most recent post from China Matters has nothing to do with China, but is of some interest for its analysis of the RSA-NSA collusion, which probably coincides with the prevailing views here. Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Dec 29 2013 9:22 utc | 20 A report in The Nation gives details of Syrian rebels detailing their weapons and training setup: Posted by: Yonatan | Dec 29 2013 9:28 utc | 21 That’s the UAE National, not the USAian ‘Progressive’ entity, The Nation. And what is interesting is that although the one you link is so to say, the ‘official non-official line,’ author Phil sands wrote another one which they published on the same day, yesterday, which undermines the ‘official non-official’ claims in the first one. Whereas the first one says:
The second one says:
Posted by: Rowan Berkeley | Dec 29 2013 9:55 utc | 22 20 THE YEAR OF INTELLECTUALLY CHALLENGED DIPLOMACY
Posted by: somebody | Dec 29 2013 10:02 utc | 23 from Pussy Riot to gay olympics and Greenpeace shenanigans to this: Posted by: brian | Dec 29 2013 11:50 utc | 24 @12,..but the egyptian military is syrias ally, because they refused to be used as an instrument of attack Posted by: brian | Dec 29 2013 11:52 utc | 25 Hollande is meeting Hariri “the chief of Lebanon’s Sunnis” (SIC) in Saudi Arabia, “where he has most of his businesses”, while he normally lives in Paris, “for security reasons” (LOL) Posted by: Mina | Dec 29 2013 14:44 utc | 26 Good news Posted by: Mina | Dec 29 2013 14:56 utc | 27 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-25544352 Posted by: Mina | Dec 29 2013 19:21 utc | 28 Hollande said Assad “is not fighting Islamists” he is placing the blame on armed Islamists to pressure the moderate opposition. He adds Saudi Arabia is among France’s “Top partners” and claimed that ” both countries also share the will to work for peace, security and stability in the middle east”. Saudi Arabia is France’s top client in the middle east. http://www.manartv.com.lb/english/adetails.php?eid=127664&cid=23&fromval=1&frid=23&seccatid=28&s1= What a load of bollocks, Hollande kowtowing to a pervert who should, and hopefully will one day be hanging from a lamp post. Posted by: harrylaw | Dec 29 2013 20:45 utc | 29 @ Mina | 27 Posted by: Harry | Dec 29 2013 20:45 utc | 30 The Ring of Fire is on fire….activity has been extensive now for weeks. Most active I’ve seen it in a few years of monitoring. New volcanic islands being formed offshore from Japan. Quakes on both sides of the Pacific daily now, not unusual, except the amount. Note Japan on the map…… Posted by: PissedOffAmerican | Dec 29 2013 20:58 utc | 31 Interesting too that the last two weeks activity has been so arrayed along the tectonic plates outside of the Ring of Fire. Don’t think I have ever seen that before. Posted by: PissedOffAmerican | Dec 29 2013 21:02 utc | 32 28/29 :-)) Posted by: somebody | Dec 29 2013 21:05 utc | 33 32) Something seems to have changed from November
Posted by: somebody | Dec 29 2013 21:16 utc | 34
Looks like Hollande, the whore of Paris, has found a client with deep pockets…could it be love? Shame to see a Socialist bending down so low to the reactionary Monarch. Where have all the revolutionaries who guillotined Kings gone to? Liked the line about France and Saudi “working for peace and stability in the middle east”. Posted by: Colm O’ Toole | Dec 29 2013 21:23 utc | 35 34) This here is Iranian press tv’s interpretation of events :-)) Posted by: somebody | Dec 29 2013 22:16 utc | 36 @ Colm O’ Toole Has anyone seen the New Year’s greeting to NATO from the Russian Deputy Premier? It’s really pretty droll. (read the comments below the story for more humor) @35 “Actually, France is desperate to export Rafale fighters”. Well that certainly beats the bi planes and flintlock rifles the US supply Posted by: harrylaw | Dec 29 2013 23:09 utc | 39 37 It is Russian humour. Like this
Posted by: somebody | Dec 29 2013 23:22 utc | 40 Should Russia begin covert ops against Saudi Arabia — with the aim of removing the regime? Posted by: bingerlot | Dec 30 2013 0:36 utc | 41 @40 I would rather Russia didn’t do anything covertly, but I think a simple insult in public e.g. not invite them to the winter Olympics (with the reasoning that they don’t talk to terrorists) might do wonders. Posted by: simon | Dec 30 2013 2:00 utc | 42 @ Copeland | Dec 29, 2013 6:09:23 PM | 37. Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Dec 30 2013 3:20 utc | 43
– AFP/fl Posted by: neretva’43 | Dec 30 2013 4:18 utc | 44 the last moment of saddam hussein Posted by: denk | Dec 30 2013 4:26 utc | 45 http://youtu.be/vc1J4t4t6eo Posted by: neretva’43 | Dec 30 2013 4:33 utc | 46 http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13921008001240 Posted by: neretva’43 | Dec 30 2013 4:39 utc | 47 raise you hands if you trust the ‘fairmindedness of the american people’, by which T Friedmann means the US system of justice? Posted by: brian | Dec 30 2013 4:44 utc | 48 @36… Posted by: brian | Dec 30 2013 4:46 utc | 49 @28 Posted by: brian | Dec 30 2013 4:48 utc | 50 Yulia Shapovalova @Yulisha 38m Posted by: brian | Dec 30 2013 7:30 utc | 51 Department of State @StateDept 2h Posted by: brian | Dec 30 2013 8:09 utc | 52 Its likely Bandar is keeping up his promise about bringing terror to Russia if it doesnt ditch Syria, question is, what Putin is going to do about it. Posted by: Harry | Dec 30 2013 9:27 utc | 53 53) Harry, the same logic applies to the perpetrators of terror as to the rulers of the populations sitting at the receiving/backlash end. Posted by: somebody | Dec 30 2013 9:53 utc | 54 Harry @ 53 ” while Russia-Iran-Syria-Iraq havent moved a finger (yet). Beats me how the Saudis can build and supply an army of 50,000 head chopping nutcases, yet the “Arc of resistance” can’t or won’t pay a dozen or so saboteurs [unattributed]to give the perverts a taste of their own medicine. Posted by: harrylaw | Dec 30 2013 9:58 utc | 55 One aspect of the Libya and Syria Fake uprisings I still can’t get my head around is the fact that the (Muslim extremist) jihadis are doing exactly the same thing to those two Muslim countries as “Israelis” and Yankees would have done to them – if they had the balls to go there in person. Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Dec 30 2013 11:31 utc | 56 #49 Posted by: Chip Nihk | Dec 30 2013 11:46 utc | 57 murikka owes china more than just money, a lot more… Posted by: denk | Dec 30 2013 16:49 utc | 58 China and Russie bring back Cold War tactics Posted by: denk | Dec 30 2013 17:06 utc | 59 UN Vienna convention is a problem for Uruguay but not for Colorado? Posted by: Mina | Dec 30 2013 17:15 utc | 60 anne-applebaum-china-and-russia-bring-back-cold-war-tactics/ Posted by: Rowan Berkeley | Dec 30 2013 17:53 utc | 61 Sibel Edmonds: I will continue to write my commentary and investigative series on our new phony hero Glenn Greenwald. Snowjob and Greenwash? Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 31 2013 2:54 utc | 62 If you want to waste time on Sibel’s contentless bleating and moaning, let alone infantile puns, that says more about you than it does about Snowden & Greenwald. But it really doesn’t matter. Sibel is wasting your time. She isn’t going anywhere with that stuff. She did her best work several years ago, she has no new sources, no new material, and I assume her ‘whistleblowers coalition’ is turning rancid. There is in any case no intelligible political purpose for it to serve. Providing concrete aid to would-be whistleblowers still is the system is a nonsensical project, because obviously such an organisation would only draw attention to them (notably, none of her group is a cryptographer, like Assange). Even assuming that she is in good faith, which I am beginning to doubt. Just to clarify, my own view is that Greenwald is intensely ambitious, and intends to join the radical wing of the global ruling class. This, unlike Sibel’s activities, is an intelligible goal, and who knows, if I had his talent, worked as hard as he does and took so many risks, maybe I would share it. Posted by: Rowan Berkeley | Dec 31 2013 3:28 utc | 63 Rowan Berkeley 60 Posted by: denk | Dec 31 2013 6:01 utc | 64 Old but important film: “The Business of Hunger” Posted by: guest77 | Jan 1 2014 21:43 utc | 65 The Fetuallah Gulen movement is a CIA front. Posted by: Willy2 | Jan 3 2014 22:52 utc | 66 how do you get rid of a good popular and independent president…. Posted by: brian | Jan 3 2014 23:09 utc | 67 a rare admission Posted by: brian | Jan 3 2014 23:18 utc | 68 The Year of the Pig, 1968 Posted by: guest77 | Jan 4 2014 3:20 utc | 69 since this has nothing to do with the other topics but is something that shows up from time to time, I thought I would send Bernhard to this site to see if there is anything there that might keep really long urls from breaking the margins. Posted by: dan of steele | Jan 4 2014 14:27 utc | 70 ‘The Trans-Pacific Partnership Leaks Posted by: brian | Jan 5 2014 0:06 utc | 71 Hearts and Minds Posted by: guest77 | Jan 5 2014 5:13 utc | 73 Australia’s Northern Territory government is starting to hire out prisoners to businesses.
In true Nazi fashion inmates are made to work for the industry, wages garnered to pay for being locked up. Instead of building war machinery however they get to slaughter pigs and cows. Great skill to teach prisoners. Posted by: Juan Moment | Jan 5 2014 6:14 utc | 74 Denis Rodmans trips to DPRK never fail to get a rise out of americans: never mind the story, read the comments! a fine display of american table manners, where a visit by an american to North Korea incites hatred derision, scorn, outrage, racism, laughter and wish to murder….this is all due to the lies fed to the readers in US and elsewhere by the ‘free press’ about DPRK and its leader…esp note the wish to murder along side the media fed idea Kim feeds people to dogs… a total a lack of humanity, basic american values and intelligence Posted by: brian | Jan 7 2014 6:58 utc | 75 #75… Posted by: PissedOffAmerican | Jan 7 2014 15:08 utc | 76 only a psychopath is able to produce this kind of trash…. Posted by: denk | Jan 7 2014 17:20 utc | 77 thousands of chinese workers fleeing from the unrest in south sudan ! Posted by: denk | Jan 11 2014 5:23 utc | 78 Yo, Annie, have you read this? and if so, what’s your opinion? Breakthrough: Transforming Fear Into Compassion – A New Perspective on the Israel-Palestine Conflict ? Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jan 11 2014 7:50 utc | 79 |
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