Really not much of a debate. What is, is! We are being bathed in a steadily increasing radioactive environment that will be around for centuries, millennium after we’re all dead. There is no safe level of radioactivity. All of it cumulatively increases the chance of life threatening mutations of our cells, long before we receive a high enough dose to kill us within months, weeks, days or hours. How can anyone intelligent enough to become informed enough to regularly visit this blog ignore/deny just what is happening right now, this instant that is far more immediately life threatening than any of the geopolitical posturing of empires and wanna-be empires?
Thanks for bringing it up again POA. It is too apocalyptic for any true intelligence not in denial to ignore.
I’d like to STRESS what you said:

It very well could be that what we discuss here, global politics, is irrelevent as it applies to the human condition. When faced with a global catacalysmic event, which Fukushima may or may not be, can mankind band together and battle a universal threat??? Or does our very nature demand that we destroy ourselves through greed, ego, and paranoia? The Fukushima situation is not encouraging. If we cannot band together to solve an immediate and irrefutable global emergency, how can we be expected to solve the foggier threats to our mutual wellfare, such as global warming.

If anyone else is concerned enough to move past denial then check out this sampling:
A chart of Radiation Dose Levels In Millisieverts
Fukushima: Wave of Radiation Will Be 10 Times Bigger than All of the Radiation from Nuclear Tests Combined…
Scientists Concerned ATLANTIC Ocean To Be Contaminated By Fukushima Plume – Currents Carrying It To U.S. East Coast
Pelicans Starving In Pacific Northwest Since 2011, Killing Baby Birds For Food – ‘Sardine Crash’ Persists In Pacific Since Decline In 2011
Fukushima
Epidemic is Just Beginning — [Videos] Evacuee: “We are in fact dying in Fukushima; What happened to us will soon affect all Japanese people”
Japan PM Shinzo Abe’s Wife: ‘Fukushima Calamity Beyond People’s Assumptions … So Much Hidden … I Hope They Will Make Everything Public’
My apologies POA for a few repeats of above.

Posted by: juannie | Dec 23 2013 23:08 utc | 103

And a new report just came up on my reading:
Fukushima Update:Highest Radiation Levels Found to Date

If you’ve been paying attention to the Fukushima incident, you will want to be informed of this newly released information by Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO). 63,000 becquerels of radioactive materials have been detected in groundwater samples taken from a well at the No. 1 nuclear plant, just five miles from the coast, a massive increase from the previous high level of radiation leakage detected at just 67 becquerels, according to the company.

Posted by: juannie | Dec 23 2013 23:58 utc | 105

Juannie, its very difficult to post pretentiously about a situation such as Fukushima. One is hard pressed to exhibit the arrogance of ego when discussing such an issue. Perhaps that explains the lack of comment about this unfolding disaster. As much as I enjoy the MOA community, the constant clash of egos, (inevitable if more than one person of moderate intelligence enters into debate) becomes tedious and more than a little boring.
Sometimes these threads seem an exercise in mental masturbation, each poster trying to “one-up” the last poster, when, in fact, niether opinion is verifiable, rendering them both equally invalid, or, if you choose to punt, valid. Its just opinion.
But there is very real data spewing out from from Fukushima, and data can be found, easily, thats supports the premise that we are already being affected here on the western coast of North America.
Regretably, the sites dealing with nuclear energy, such as Adam Curry’s, or Rod Adams’s site, are advocacy sites. Industry insiders. There, the pretention and bias is palpable, so it becomes impossible to actually glean understandable science from any debate. Those of us with less than doctorate level knowledge about nuclear science and physics are belittled as “ignorant” and “alarmist”. When 3/11 occured, I attempted to pick the brain of nuclear scientists at Rod Adam’s site, and I was immediately insulted for my lack of scientific knowledge, rather than enlightened by any sincere attempts to explain to me what was occurring at Fukushima. Interesting, now, that Adams seems to avoid commentary about Fukushima….
http://atomicinsights.com/
…..as many of his early comments trivializing this event have been proven remarkably WRONG.
Here is what the asshole had to say on 3/12/011…
“Radiation levels inside the containment will be many times higher than usual, but that is okay because no one needs routine access inside containment buildings and no humans will be over exposed. The containment walls, reactor coolant piping, and other equipment inside the containment building will condense and capture much of the radioactive materials that are entrained in the water. Other than those vented noble gases mentioned above, essentially nothing will be released to the environment”
http://atomicinsights.com/nuclear-plant-issues-in-japan-are-the-least-of-their-worries/

Posted by: PissedOffAmerican | Dec 24 2013 1:18 utc | 107

All of the above is a little unfair. Personally, I pay attention to what I see some chance of contributing to an effect upon. I have been well aware of the nuclear issues for decades. Canadians might find this site interesting in terms of routine anti-nuclear activity:
http://concernforhealth.org/

Posted by: Rowan Berkeley | Dec 24 2013 3:49 utc | 109