Fact or fake?
http://12160.info/forum/topics/israel-will-attack-iran-if-you-sign-the-deal-french-mp-told

Posted by: g_h | Nov 13 2013 19:47 utc | 3

Nothing to see here. Move along.
Fukushima Reactor No. 4 ‘Buckled And Tilted And Could Collapse If Another Quake Strikes’
“Kinda pales our concerns about geo-political strategy.”
Probably no connection. Hundreds Of Sea Turtles Wash Up Dead On Pacific Coast – Dogs ‘Stopped Breathing And Died Almost Instantly’ When Eating Them
The pathetic reality is there is something that anyone who is concerned could do.

Posted by: juannie | Nov 13 2013 19:53 utc | 5

On Fukushima:
http://ojs.library.ubc.ca/index.php/tci/article/view/183609/183713

Posted by: bevin | Nov 13 2013 20:08 utc | 7

The Dominican Republic has stripped people born on its soil of citizenship. Making them stateless. NGO’s and neighboring governments are calling for sanctions on the island nation.

Posted by: Fernando | Nov 13 2013 20:27 utc | 9

Posted by: Colm O’ Toole | Nov 13, 2013 3:20:37 PM | 8
jihadis who go to war in syria libya or elsewhere..iof the survive are also now battle hardened…but youd not want them to return to their origin counties esp like UK France Australia…

Posted by: brian | Nov 13 2013 20:58 utc | 11

re 8 I would guess that todays Syrian Arab Army (SAA) is dramatically tougher, more experienced, and generally more effective than the SAA of 2010 at every level
I am sure that’s true, but it is also a lot smaller. The conscripts have gone, dead or deserted. They are down to people who are fighting to survive.

Posted by: alexno | Nov 13 2013 21:07 utc | 13

Sweden closes four prisons as number of inmates plummets
in comparison to:
Entire world – Prison Population Rates per 100,000 of the national population
U.S. Has World’s Highest Incarceration Rate
That foreign policy is reflection of internal one illustrate prison population of U.S. society (this word has positive connotation, but not sure that in this case usage of that word is proper) and political system.
Exporting death, violence, hate, racism, sectarianism, destruction of indigenous culture and heritage, looting national wealth with help of its the most politically and socially backward allies throughout world is a prominent characteristic of the U.S. foreign policy.

Posted by: neretva’43 | Nov 13 2013 22:10 utc | 15

Posted by: Colm O’ Toole | Nov 13, 2013 4:34:21 PM | 14
The Soviet Union was devastated by the German invasion, but that did nothing to diminish the fighting capabilities of the Red Army.

Posted by: lysias | Nov 13 2013 22:17 utc | 17

I think Pat Lang is spreading a half truth. I don’t know why he is doing so, but I guess it’s due to a deep commitment to sectarian thinking.
I appreciate much of his work, especially his outing of the Ghouta checial false flag, but, maybe someone could invite him on a beer in Hermel to grasp a bit more of contemporary reality in the region?

Posted by: Bandolero | Nov 13 2013 23:12 utc | 19

Posted by: Colm O’ Toole | Nov 13, 2013 3:20:37 PM | 8
so true,no one has more experience than hezbollah since 2006,even 1996,or 1986,or 1976,or 1956.they are hard hard hard core

Posted by: brakes | Nov 14 2013 0:07 utc | 21

http://www.iuf.org/cgi-bin/campaigns/show_campaign.cgi?c=800
Disgusting that this still goes on in these American puppet states, despite Obama’s fake concern during the 2008 debates. Anything to get the much needed AFL-CIO dollars and people power… only to be tossed away at the earliest convenience and allow murders such as these to go unchecked.

Colombian trade unionist murdered, others face immediate risk
Oscar López Triviño was murdered on November 9 in the Colombian city of Bugalagrande a day after he and other members of his union, SINALTRAINAL, received death threats from paramilitaries. The union had been on hunger strike at Nestlé beginning November 5.
The IUF joins with the national center CUT and unions around the world in condemning this assassination of yet another Colombian trade unionist and calls on the government to swiftly bring the perpetrators to justice through a full and transparent investigation, and to provide all necessary security for other union members at high risk.
Use the form below to send a message to the Colombian authorities. The Spanish message calls on the President and Labour Minister to swiftly bring the perpetrators and organizers of this crime to justice through a full and transparent investigation, and to provide all necessary security for other union members at risk.

Posted by: guest77 | Nov 14 2013 1:16 utc | 23

@g_h (#3);
I don’t think that it is a fake. Today in the “cross talk” program in RT they were talking about it. It is not that it is “fake”, it is just that it is totally preposterous. It would be extremely stupid of ANYONE in the West to think that Israel has the capability to harm Iran or create any war at all without the full support of USA in particular or the West in general. Israel simply doesn’t have the military wherewithal to fight a war against Iran. It simply doesn’t have the necessary air power to destroy Iranian nuclear program. It will likely loose fighter jets during the attack (Iran is not Syria) and most importantly Iran will retaliate with a vengeance (using its significant arsenal of surf. to surf. missiles) and the war will horribly blow back in Israel’s face.

Posted by: Pirouz_2 | Nov 14 2013 3:36 utc | 25

The US-sponsored coup in Iran in 1953 is well known.
What’s a bit less known is htat the coup 1979 in Iran was also US-sponsored. I think that’s, where we should put more attention to.
I would just start with the meeting in Guadeloupe:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konferenz_von_Guadeloupe

Posted by: Bandolero | Nov 14 2013 4:10 utc | 27

how long before the new pope goes the way of John Paul 1?
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/13/pope-francis-mafia-target-corruption?CMP=fb_gu

Posted by: brian | Nov 14 2013 9:44 utc | 29

China voices frustration that its best investment choice remains U.S. debt

With around $1.28 trillion in U.S. Treasury bonds already in its portfolio, China has little choice but to continue to buy U.S. debt, economist say. Government bonds from Japan and Europe are a less attractive investment, and finding other avenues to diversify the country’s huge foreign currency reserves would require major economic reforms and could result in unwanted volatility.
“Under what is known as the Pax-Americana, we fail to see a world where the United States is helping to defuse violence and conflicts, reduce poor and displaced population, and bring about real, lasting peace.”
“They started to really worry that the U.S. is weak,” said Shen Dingli, vice dean of international affairs at Shanghai’s Fudan University. “Not only that Obama is weak, but that the entire system is weak.”

Bibi and Bandar are really nothing be bare-assed baboons, no real reason to stroke them at all. China on the other hand is the USD$1,280,000,000,000.00 gorilla whose wishes … or an attempt to shine on whose wishes … may just be what we are watching n the Middle East.
No only China, but everyone knows that the USSA is PTSD, a suicidal maniac trying to cimmit suicide by cop. China is the one and only cop who can do the job. Talk the lunatic down, preferably. So the sick ‘game’ has a less abrubt conclusion.

Posted by: john francis lee | Nov 14 2013 9:58 utc | 31

juannie @ 5: Kudos, and another thanks for the link. Me and mine are all in. We live in
California.

Posted by: ben | Nov 14 2013 14:19 utc | 33

“The Soviet Union was devastated by the German invasion, but that did nothing to diminish the fighting capabilities of the Red Army.
Posted by: lysias | Nov 13, 2013 5:17:22 PM | 16
this is complete nonsense, the kind of Written-by-the-Victor history one learns in high school.
It leaves out important things such as vulnerability of supply lines, the fact that the Wehrmacht themselves were not particularly battle-hardened since kicking the butts of the Polish army was essentially a walk in the park for them, etc etc. The Wehrmacht had not been engaged in 13 yrs of war prior to Barbarossa.
A more text-book case of comparing apples and oranges would be hard to find

Posted by: foff | Nov 14 2013 14:52 utc | 35

ben,
Not a good place even now especially if you live near the coast. I suspect you are already aware of how radioactively polluted the Pacific is. Both Arnie Gunderson and Helen Caldicott are suggesting moving to the southern hemisphere should the #4 fuel rod removal go amiss, if there is time. I am reminded of Nevil Shute and his foresight with his 1957 novel “On the Beach”.
Bevin,
I appreciated the read you linked to, considering it’s dry academic nature. It addresses the sociological phenomena of denial and lethargy when faced with incomprehensible and dangerous scenarios of such Fukushima.
A few excerpts:

mass media – my sources don’t draw from mass media – it is ignored/denied there.
lack of information coming from “experts”.
Deadly silence on Fukushima
Invisible truth so incomprehensible it is easier to pretend it doesn’t exist.

I would have thought that many readers of this blog would have ventured beyond such psychological defenses. I am still hoping so because as I linked to in my post #5, there is something that could be done to give #4 fuel rod removal a better chance of success.

Posted by: juannie | Nov 14 2013 15:14 utc | 37

And this just out.
Fukushima Reactor No. 4, SFP Fuel Rods Deformed One ‘Bent At 90-Degree Angle’

Posted by: juannie | Nov 14 2013 15:23 utc | 39

Posted by: foff | Nov 14, 2013 9:52:46 AM | 35
If the Wehrmacht were such softies, why do you think they were so effective in fighting on defense not only the Red Army, but also the U.S. and UK, in North Africa and Italy, even in Normandy?

Posted by: lysias | Nov 14 2013 22:47 utc | 41

Posted by: foff | Nov 14, 2013 6:50:52 PM | 42

the Wehrmacht themselves were not particularly battle-hardened since kicking the butts of the Polish army was essentially a walk in the park for them, etc etc.

Your words, not m ine.

Posted by: lysias | Nov 15 2013 0:09 utc | 43

The soviets were saved by the onset of winter.
It snowed, then melted, then everything turned to mud. The Germans made several serious miscalculations which caused them to get bogged down just outside Moscow.
The onset of winter alowed the RA a vital breather to reorganise, resupply, etc.
The initial german sucess had less to do with battlehardening andwas mainly a result of the Wehrmacht being better led, better trained, better disciplined and better equipped than the RA.

Posted by: foff | Nov 15 2013 0:27 utc | 45

The real news – Chris Hedges on the attempt to link democratic dissent with terrorism
Hegemony abroad requires repression at home
Quote “A Canadian worker pays roughly the same taxes as a US worker and gets health care, a US worker gets the Pentagon.”

Posted by: somebody | Nov 15 2013 1:11 utc | 47

“Zhukov was one of the few soviet officers that actually had experience in battle, having fought quite effectively on the russian eastern borders, against japanese.”
Experience or not, but the Soviet soldiers pay dearly and horrendously the way he battled an enemy. According to everything it did not have to be that way. It happened two times, In Battles of Rzhev or “Rzhev meat grinder” and the other one is when his troops fought the German who were on some kind of mountain, or hill, near Berlin.

Posted by: neretva’43 | Nov 15 2013 1:38 utc | 49

“but the Soviet soldiers pay dearly and horrendously the way he battled an enemy”
Though even Zhukov himself admitted his mistakes during the battle, it would certainly be wrong to attempt to portray this as purposeful, which it wasn’t.
Its quite an old tactic, of the Goebbels variety, to try and attribute the massive Soviet losses not to the relentless, merciless German invasion but to the “heartless Soviet generals”. You will still see today, when people attempt to tell you “Stalin killed 20 million people!” that the vast majority of this number is cynically composed of Soviet troops killed in defense of their homeland.
hese battles could perhaps have been fought differently – as admitted by Zhukov himself – but only with the advantage of viewing them in hindsight. But at the time they were fought, Rzhev occurring simultaneously with Stalingrad against some of the most heavily defended points on the German line in the midsts of a war of annihilation it is impossible to honestly chalk the losses up as some “heartlessness” or “purposefulness” on the part of the Soviet generals.

Posted by: guest77 | Nov 15 2013 1:59 utc | 51

It has little to do with Neretva to be honest. The comment was less about him than about the phenomenon in general.
As for you, I call them like I see them. Your ridiculous whining about Russell Brand apparently being too hard on those poor poor misunderstood Nazis is still ringing in my ears.

Posted by: guest77 | Nov 15 2013 2:18 utc | 53

“…Rzhev occurring simultaneously with Stalingrad against some of the most heavily defended points on the German line in the midsts of a war of annihilation it is impossible to honestly chalk the losses up as some “heartlessness” or “purposefulness” on the part of the Soviet generals.”
You sound silly, but never mind.
There are evidences that at the Rzev salient the Soviet use calvary and infantry, they assaulted headlong the German lines who had MG 42. I guess the Germans were too close to Stalin, Stavka and Moscow so ordinary soldiers pay the price.

Posted by: neretva’43 | Nov 15 2013 2:41 utc | 55

“The initial german sucess had less to do with battle hardening and was mainly a result of the Wehrmacht being better led, better trained, better disciplined and better equipped than the RA…”
As one would expect foff is quite a fan of the Wehrmacht. Perhaps its the stars in his eyes that prevents him from seeing the most important advantage they had in 1941- that of surprise. Stalin was quite unprepared for Barbarossa. And the more the British warned him, the more convinced he was that they were conning him.
Guest77’s point
“Its quite an old tactic, of the Goebbels variety, to try and attribute the massive Soviet losses not to the relentless, merciless German invasion but to the ‘heartless Soviet generals’.”
is valid.
The same “human wave” nonsense was used to explain way the crushing defeats the US suffered in Korea. There were echoes of it too when the US ally, Saddam Hussein, was being defeated by Iran.
It is an argument that is used to justify appalling massacres from the air, such as the “Turkey Shoot” the ended the first Gulf War and the dreadful destruction of North Korean villages, towns and cities which was the US response to the PLA intervention when the “UN” drove up to the Yalu river.

Posted by: bevin | Nov 15 2013 3:08 utc | 57

F*** off, foff, you are a classic troll.
🙂

Posted by: Rowan Berkeley | Nov 15 2013 10:38 utc | 59

This comment in Pepe Escobar’s latest piece, strikes me as being significant.
“…The head of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), Yukiya Amano, was also in Tehran on Monday, and – unusually for his trademark paperboy role for Washington – had nothing to complain about…”
Calling Amano a “paperboy” exaggerates his independence. He, like his UN counterpart Ban Ki Moon, is a much more reliable servant of the White House than all but a few American politicians.
So we can be certain that if Obama’s plan is for there to be no deal with Iran, Amano would be front and centre with the sort of nonsense we have learned to expect from IAEA sources-nothing firm but all manner of nit picking and whining about what Iran could be up to, though there is no evidence of it.
In other words, this is a sign that next week’s meeting might yet yield a deal.
It is also a sign that the joint Israel-MIC lobby for war will be working at full tilt to prevent a deal from being made.
The French torpedo now looks like a desperate, last ditch effort to buy time so that the Jabotinsyites can work their magic in Congress.

Posted by: bevin | Nov 15 2013 15:03 utc | 61

Israel’s Economy and Trade Minister Naftali Bennett, making Netanyahu’s case in both chambers on Capitol Hill, told a crowd of congressmen from the Israel Allies Foundation in the Library of Congress on Thursday:

Posted by: Rowan Berkeley | Nov 15, 2013 10:29:36 AM | 62
Sounds like more of a threat than a warning
In a September 2003 interview in Elsevier, a Dutch weekly, on Israel and the alleged dangers it faces from Iran and world opinion, Martin Levi van Creveld, [an Israeli military historian and theorist] stated:

We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force…. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under.

Posted by: foff | Nov 15 2013 15:51 utc | 63

The problem for the Zionist occupied territory of Congress is how do to get public opinion behind a strike on Iran when both ends as well as the center of the ideological spectrum are strongly opposed to another war. People would blame another 9/11 if one was conjured up on Wahhabites not Persian Shia. I think Likudniks overestimate the amount of support they have among the U.S. population.

Posted by: Mike Maloney | Nov 15 2013 17:07 utc | 65

I am totally baffled as to who has the final decision on sanctions. First I thought it was Congress, then I thought no, Obama has a waiver, but now I see that some Congress crittur is proposing a law to cancel his waiver. Can they do that? Is the Presidential waiver merely a Congressional provision, not something inherent in the Constitution?

The top Republican senator on the Foreign Relations Committee is considering legislation that would prevent Obama from waiving sanctions. “We’ve crafted an amendment [to prevent him],” Corker told The Daily Beast in an interview Wednesday Nov 6. “They have the ability now to waive sanctions. But [we wanna remove it].” Corker said that his new legislative language would freeze the administration’s ability to waive sanctions currently in place. Under Corker’s plan the Obama administration would be barred from using the waivers that are currently on the books to create limited exemptions to the sanctions program.

Posted by: Rowan Berkeley | Nov 15 2013 17:21 utc | 67

On the Reuters article about Kahmeini and his financial empire
http://tinyurl.com/p8fb9t3
posted on another thread.
The situation in Iran is in a vague broad sense comparable to Egypt, where the Army controls up to a quarter maybe? of the economy, hotels and tourism, construction, deals with investors, banking, etc. (I have posted about it before. No hard, secure, numbers are available, but this isn’t contested by anyone.)
Btw, in Greece, the Orthodox church in conjunction with some big biz. like shipping present another picture with similarities, if on a much smaller scale.
In Egypt, the army is now in power, in Iran the religious authorities have held onto their power.
Khamenei has not endured in Iran because the ppl are devout, obey their religious leaders, are happy with heir Gov. nor because he is a modest man. It is because the leaders have institutional power (all of it, on paper), financial power (a good part of it in holdings, plus all the regulations), and the Revolutionary Guards. (About the army idk.)
I wouldn’t dismiss Reuters out of hand. Their ‘investigative’ reports are some what lame and slanted, they tend to stick to ‘facts’ as the US etc. would wish. (I had a long look at one on child trafficking of adopted children in the US which had the merit at least of raising the issue – it is a taboo topic in the US.)
Now all that doesn’t address K’s financial empire, but it is huge, that is certain.
One wordy confused paper about Iran as an example of underground issues… not directly about K.
http://www.relooney.fatcow.com/SI_Peter-Iran/00-Iran_2.pdf
SEDAD escaped sanctions according to Reuters. (So did many others.)
Khomenini seems to have legislated the ‘property seizure’ to help ppl but that changed when Khameini came to power.
Digging in further is difficult, I will post if anything serious.

Posted by: Noirette | Nov 15 2013 19:09 utc | 69

from foff’s # 63:

In a September 2003 interview in Elsevier, a Dutch weekly, on Israel and the alleged dangers it faces from Iran and world opinion, Martin Levi van Creveld, [an Israeli military historian and theorist] stated:
We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force…. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under.

I’ve often heard it stated that “we become what we hate the most”. And, “if Hitler had the bomb at the last when in his bunker, he would have had no compunction to take the rest of the world down with him and use it”
The above quote of foff’s kind of sums up my first quote as far as present day Israel is concerned. I think it takes a psychopathic (4%) mind to delve into those depths. A normal human being (96%) would typically make a life/death decision to do as little harm to others as possible. Our dilemma is how to deal with the 4% in the age of weapons of mass destruction. Worse yet, I think the reality is that the 4% have almost universal control of the WMD.

Posted by: juannie | Nov 15 2013 23:45 utc | 71

#71
To be fair to van Creveld: he claimed was merely articulating opinions of others within Israel, and these were not necessarily opinions he agreed with. Admittedly he was a little vague on that last part.

Posted by: foff | Nov 16 2013 0:07 utc | 73

My 4% comes from what, according to Martha Stout (The Sociopath Next Door), the psychiatric community estimates to be the percentage of populations (across most all cultures) that can be diagnosed as psychopathic. Because of the (purported) heavy early propaganda in Israel you are probably correct. But I have some reservations. Max Bllumenthal’s “Goliath” Life and Loathing in Greater Israel” may shed more light on this (I haven’t read it but am awaiting it’s delivery after reading Chris Hedges’ review.

Posted by: juannie | Nov 16 2013 0:49 utc | 75

Nothing sounds quite as silly as two right wing dipshits discussing the virtues of the Wehrmacht from their mother’s basements, especially on a site like this. Unless it is maybe a teenage troll who keeps repeating the word “fanboi” like this is 4chan and it is 2003.
As for calling you a Nazi… well if boys size-6 jackboot fits….
…
As for Israel’s WMD, they are without a doubt the most dangerous nation who possesses hundreds of the worlds most dangerous weapons, far outmatching the danger posed even by a teetering basketcase of a nation such as Pakistan. Of course there is no need for Israel to have hundreds of such bombs if the real target were its enemies in the Arab world. It is a threatening message that Israel is a world player.
If the uproar that occurred over the non-existent Iranian bomb had occurred over the Israeli’s actual bomb, the US would certainly not have to pay so much heed to the suicidal impulses of the little Frankenstein monster it has created. The only more dangerous development would be if the current medieval rulers of Saudi Arabia were to get their bloody, duplicitous hands on some.
The exposure of the Israeli bomb, thankfully, was more than just a big propaganda hit. It is also an avenue for their dismantling should the world ever decide to press for it. Mordecai Vanunu was certainly a hero for what he did – and his hounding by the Israeli government to this day proves it.
The dismantling of the Syrian “chemical weapons stockpile” – which has turned out to be nothing more than a large amount of unmixed precursor chemicals – would, in a just world, be the first step towards the dismantling of all of the most dangerous weapons in the Middle East – including the most dangerous of all, Israel’s nukes.
But there is no reason for a country so small to have so much power. The fact that Germany sold them the nuclear capable submarines is just appalling.

Posted by: guest77 | Nov 16 2013 1:58 utc | 77

legacy of ‘arabspring’: one giant step backward for Libya thanks to UN NATO and ‘international community’ and media like NYT and Democracynow
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/11/14/libya-will-modify-existing-law-to-conform-to-sharia-code/

Posted by: brian | Nov 16 2013 2:29 utc | 79

Re 76
Nothing sounds quite as silly as two right wing dipshits discussing the virtues of the Wehrmacht . . especially on a site like this
Oh, You mean on this site, where the site-owner was once a member of the German Military, where the site owner and others frequently discuss tactics of various military forces, historical and present day?
The discussion was regarding battle hardening, the example given by someone else was Red Army vs Werhmacht.
I realise that other people actually knowing something about subjects you like to pontificate on, and then disagreing with you, bugs the shit out youm but your idealogical fundamentalism gets more and more hilariously pathetic the more you rant, to be honest.
Your inability to see the world and everyone in it other than through a silly “left/right”paradigm is quite funny
I realise you’re addicted to your dogma cos it’s easier than actually thinking things through all by and for yourself, I just did not realise how proud of your addiction to dogma you were

As for calling you a Nazi… well if boys size-6 jackboot fits…….
Oh I don’t mind you doing that, that sort of thing is to be expected from Borg-like dogmatics such as you. In fact it actually helps others see how idiotic idealogical fundamentalists like yourself are. And it gives me even more opportunity, as if any more were needed, for laughing at your regular attempts to bully others by screaming “nazi” when other disagree with your dogmatic ranting.

Posted by: foff | Nov 16 2013 3:56 utc | 81

Caroline Glick is still riding the “Chattanooga choo-choo”, as bevin calls it:

If enough Democrats can be convinced to break ranks with Obama and the Democratic Party’s donors, Congress can pass veto-proof additional sanctions against Iran. These sanctions can only be credible with America’s spurned allies if they do not contain any presidential waiver that would empower Obama to ignore the law. They can also take action to limit Obama’s ability to blackmail Israel, a step that is critical to the US’s ability to rebuild its international credibility.

Posted by: Rowan Berkeley | Nov 16 2013 9:28 utc | 83

50th anniversary of JFK’s demise, the Big Five Oh!, looming.
Amazing how the Lone Commie Sniper theory has been thoroughly trashed.

All of this is absolutely central to the events that occur on November 22, 1963. Consider: Here you have a defector who was in the Soviet Union for almost three years. He returns and then gets involved confronting anti-Castro Cubans in New Orleans. He then goes to Mexico City, and visits both the Cuban and Soviet embassies trying to get to Russia from Cuba. He creates dramatic scenes at both places, and here is the capper: He talks to the KGB’s officer in charge of assassinations in the Western Hemisphere. By the time Oswald returned to Dallas, the alarm bell should have been sounding on him throughout the intelligence community. Especially in view of Kennedy’s announced visit to Texas. He should never have been allowed to be on the motorcade route. The Secret Service should have had the necessary information about him and he should have been on their Security Index.

http://www.ctka.net/reviews/newman.html
Ayup, a marine, with links to the U2 program, defects to USSR, at the height of the cold war, returns, an avowed Communist and just happens to land a job at a site overlooking JFK’s parade route.

Posted by: ruralito | Nov 16 2013 19:39 utc | 85

Well the very idea that “left/right” always = “revolution/reaction” is complete nonsense, for starters.
And the individual in question has more in kin with George Bush and his “you’re either with us or agin us” then anything else.
His pathetic Gobbels statement earlier is nothing more than the mindless bleatings of a clearly ignorant 3rd rate dogmatic demogogue

Posted by: foff | Nov 16 2013 20:08 utc | 87

hmmmm….no takers yet….don’t give up.

Posted by: dh | Nov 16 2013 21:34 utc | 89

B’s having been “in the German military” is probably less significant to his thinking than the fact that he has chosen to take the name of this site from the the poetry of a man that was chased out of Germany by the nazis on risk of his life. So I doubt b finds it very cute that you come here and try to claim some kind of kinship with him because he was “in the German military” as if that means he is going to go along with twelve year old’s assessment of the nazis, an assessment that most in Germany rightly do their best to stamp out to this day and that b has created a site to exposing in its modern form.
Nor is this site so stupid as a place to “discuss military tactics” like a group of dipshits on Stormfront just back from spending their allowance on reenactment SS uniforms. B has made a site devoted to looking at power in our world, and the hypocrisy that comes with it – in the media, in government, and elsewhere. If this was the 1930s, b would be decrying the actions of Germany in the Spanish Civil War, while you would have been goosestepping around your bedroom with a picture of Franco. But then politics obviously isn’t something you are suited for examining if you can’t grasp the basics of class analysis. Of course there is no right and no left in your world – you’ve been duped into thinking that even the fullest expression of right wing, elite violence “wasn’t the worst thing in the world!” If that’s your stance then yes – you’re not with me. And you’re not with anyone else here, far as I can see.
You seem so bent out of shape to get called a Nazi, which I wouldn’t have had you not exposed yourself by sarcastically whining “oh like they’re the WORST people on EARTH”. The fact is, with that statement, with your silly romantic musings on the nazi armies – better in every way than those stupid Russians! – except that they were so morally weak that instead of rising up to destroy Hitler they sheepishly went along for the ride that ended with the pathetic surrender of their ruined country – their ranks filled with wounded old men and starving young boys.
The fact is I see little trolls like you all over Information Clearinghouse, trying to “rehabilitate” the nazis for whatever reason – “oh, they weren’t so bad!”. Its fucking gross. Who somehow want to take a stance against the war in Syria when the fact is that they are part of the problem. And I hate to see people try to pull that shit here, a site which is devoted to exposing and attacking aggressive displays of power, not inventing apologies for them.
So come with your sad “I know better!” arguments, just like our old friend “hmm” who also couldn’t seem to grow out of his underoos and talk about things without twelve year old insults. Not that being called “stupid” by confused little right wing wiener isn’t a real laugh or anything.

Posted by: guest77 | Nov 17 2013 1:23 utc | 91

76
[ex] Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel’s mantra
*no crisis should go to waste*
http://williambowles.info/2012/12/18/america-invades-africa-the-resource-war-and-the-conquest-of-mali-by-timothy-alexander-guzman/
in a normal situation, crisis r hard to come by, yet crisis is uncle’s blood line !
what to do, what to do ?
the emanuel doctrine is too lame, no wonder he’s an *ex*, the modern Crassus[1] has a better idea ,
*create a crisis, offer the solution* !
by now it should be common knowledge that murica has its grubby paws behind practically every crisis in the world [2]
now the big question…..
did god wrought a miracle,er, diaster, every time uncle needs one ?
or just the angels playing their haarp ?
*Summer 1998 also brought a bad drought to the USA, whose government nonetheless continued to resist the Kyoto Protocol on reducing global warming.
One explanation fits the paradox: the US has been working on a military system to control the weather, called HAARP. The US wouldn’t care to comply on Kyoto if it were planning to control the weather anyway, or if its own 1998 drought were part of testing HAARP, or if the US and Russia now agreed that hotter weather
strengthened their hand versus the “South”, the Third World and Islamic countries.*
http://www.mediamonitors.net/leonard26.html
before everybody cry *conspiracy nut*, pse listen to this…
from the horse mouth,
zbig
*Technology will make available, to the leaders of major nations, techniques for conducting secret warfare, of which only a bare minimum of the security forces need be appraised… Techniques of weather modification could be employed to produce prolonged periods of drought or storm*
[n earthquake ?]
mind u, that was more than three decades ago !
http://www.mediamonitors.net/leonard26.html
ref
http://www.globalresearch.ca/environmental-warfare-and-us-foreign-policy-the-ultimate-weapon-of-mass-destruction-2/5357909?print=1
http://www.globalresearch.ca/environmental-modification-techniques-enmod-and-climate-change
http://www.globalresearch.ca/atmospheric-geoengineering-weather-manipulation-contrails-and-chemtrails/20369
[1]
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/ARTICLE5/
[2]
*Pick any ongoing conflict in the world and see if you do not see the secret hands of the fukusi busily at work fanning the flames. These flames are the legends *
http://www.countercurrents.org/chamberlin110908.htm

Posted by: denk | Nov 17 2013 4:50 utc | 93

Alexno,
From a happy refugee in Germany: they always try to buy German. Why not? like everybody else, they know these are good products! Kitchen appliances, construction tools, plumbery, planking screws and joints, you name it. Even in the Middle East people know that if they can get a hand on a German product, it will function better and last longer than the Chinese/American/French/Italian equivalents.

Posted by: Mina | Nov 17 2013 11:21 utc | 95

Prof. Eben Moglen on Snowden & NSA spying talk 1 of 4

Prof. Eben Moglen’s lectures on the implications of Edward Snowden’s revelations. What he has given us and what we need to do now if we want to life in a free society in the future

Better quality above, (at his site) but here’s YT’s version
I highly recommend the time it takes to watch these…
Bonus: Meditate on these, The Extraordinary Pierre Omidyar
Unfortunately this will go behind a paywall in about 15 hours, read it while you can:
A Hard Look At the Non-Profit Behind Glenn Greenwald’s New Publication …

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Nov 18 2013 0:37 utc | 97

Well as dumb insulters go theres few to match you here. Your insults are about as effective as your maths skills.
Following your “logic”, what little there is of it, Since i actually commended to skills of the soviet general Zhukov, as any non-idiot can plainly see, then by your moronic “logic” that would also require me to be pro-soviet, if one were being consistant. But stupidity and dishonesty such as yours rarely ever requires much in the way of consistancy.
The only consistant thing you demonstrated so far is your own stupidity and dishonesty.
As you well know my reference to nazis was disparaging your fellow fanboi’s utterly lame use of nazis to defend Mr Brand.
Obviously none of what I say now will make any difference, since, being a dogmatic irrelevant airhead, you yourself are sure to continue to display all the honesty and integrity one would usually associate with people such as the nazis. Well done

Posted by: foff | Nov 18 2013 1:47 utc | 99