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October 20, 2013
Open Thread 2013-22
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The NSA’s Utah data center is still struggling to get up and running. The WSJ reported earlier this month that the site slated to hold exabytes of NSA spy data has been suffering from lightning arcs and meltdowns that have destroyed hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of equipment and prevented the NSA from using the center for its intended purpose: massive data storage and mining. The WSJ reported there had been ten incidents thus far. A source familiar with the project says:
Posted by: Rowan Berkeley | Oct 20 2013 15:38 utc | 1 @Rowan Berkeley #1 Posted by: Petri Krohn | Oct 20 2013 16:48 utc | 2 James Bond, Cuban-style:
Posted by: ruralito | Oct 20 2013 17:24 utc | 3 Rowan Berkeley@1 Posted by: Cynthia | Oct 20 2013 19:37 utc | 4 Finally we get a closer look at one clothier’s shoddy stitching:
Posted by: guest77 | Oct 21 2013 0:02 utc | 6 Re #6: That appears to be an AP story, by a certain Raphael Satter. Though it quotes Angry Arab to the the effect that “Something is going on which is quite fishy,” and gives Rami Abd’ur-Rahman’s real name, which is apparently Ossama Suleiman, it concludes with three reassuring voices in a row (Chatham House, Amnesty and HRW) saying he’s kosher. That is, if you consider them reassuring. It does not mention MI6. Posted by: Rowan Berkeley | Oct 21 2013 7:03 utc | 7 Egyptians tell Israel to stuff its holocaust award Posted by: brian | Oct 21 2013 7:04 utc | 8 Chris Hedges’ latest, worth serious consideration. Posted by: ben | Oct 21 2013 15:41 utc | 9 I don’t think Mr Hedges even tries to tell us in this article, ben, who is going to do the fighting in this ‘class war’. The whole point about globalisation is that the US no longer has a recognisable working class, of the sort that could generate a fighting trade union, which could then be wired into a Leninist-type revolutionary scheme. These working classes are now all in the ‘less developed world’, where trade unions in any independent sense are strictly forbidden as subversive. Therefore, I think, we have to resort to geopolitical factors. That is to say, nobody claims that defeat in WW1 ’caused’ the Russian revolution, but it certainly contributed to the critical mass of the revolutionary explosion. Anybody who is in doubt about the permissibility of reckoning such factors into the mix is invited to read Althusser on ‘Contradiction and Overdetermination’. So, my point is, something analogous to a military defeat will be required to push the US people into anything resembling a revolutionary mood. The sort of conditions I have in mind include the rationing, black marketeering or general shortages of basic foodstuffs and of energy, the collapse of bourgeois parties and the rise of fascist parties, the prospect of a US Army largely composed of foreign troops, an unemployment situation resembling that of the mid 1930s, rioting and looting, etc etc. Then we shall see whether Leninist-type entities actually arise and start the ‘class war’ in earnest (and I realise that their battles will be as much against the fascist parties as against US troops). In the meantime, I recommend listening to Webster Tarpley’s weekly World Crisis Radio programs, because he is a very good barometer. Posted by: Rowan Berkeley | Oct 21 2013 16:24 utc | 10 The French have called the US ambassador in for a demarche after reading this in le Monde this a.m. Posted by: Rowan Berkeley | Oct 21 2013 16:35 utc | 11 Medley, local radio or fash mag. :)) Posted by: Noirette | Oct 21 2013 17:01 utc | 12 Personally I think that Silber’s views on Greenwald are meaningless. Greenwald is doing an expert job of getting the max stuff out to the max outlets. I heard the same sort of moaning about Assange. What are we supposed to do, exactly? Start a campaign among the truly radical to ignore Greenwald and Assange as “agents of mass distraction”? Wouldn’t that constitute an even more time-wasting distraction? Posted by: Rowan Berkeley | Oct 21 2013 17:12 utc | 13 @10 You’re right about the US not having a recognizable working class. The only thing that might upset them would be a life without ballgames and TV. Posted by: dh | Oct 21 2013 17:22 utc | 14 @ 10 … I do, but what is Webster Tarpley a good barometer off? Posted by: thirsty | Oct 21 2013 18:35 utc | 15 ungrateful Gazans go to syria on mistaken belief they are aiding muslims! Posted by: brian | Oct 21 2013 21:19 utc | 16 reflecting on the gaza salafist story Posted by: brian | Oct 21 2013 21:26 utc | 17 @7 Agreed, but it is nice to have a closer look as opposed to him just being presented as “The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights” and letting western nincompoops assume it is some well-funded, well-respected human rights organization instead of what it is – a man who puts out the press releases for every pressed shirt. Posted by: guest77 | Oct 21 2013 23:51 utc | 18 “The whole point about globalisation is that the US no longer has a recognisable working class, of the sort that could generate a fighting trade union,…” Posted by: bevin | Oct 22 2013 1:58 utc | 19 good blog at the NY Review of Books by Charles Simic: Posted by: bevin | Oct 22 2013 2:33 utc | 20 Bevin, how are these struggles of yours going to get coordinated, or as I put it ‘wired in to a revolutionary scheme’? I’m quite content for it not to be ‘Leninist’. I don’t sleep with ‘The State and Revolution’ under my pillow. But I would certainly want it to be coordinated in some way, because otherwise you will get the situation of Germany in the 1920s, where the fascist parties, largely composed of demobilised soldiers with battlefield experience and fronted for the cameras by panicked petit bourgeoisie, simply mop them up one after another. “So tell me, great leader, & please make it quick…” Posted by: Rowan Berkeley | Oct 22 2013 2:35 utc | 21 I’ll fill in a couple more boxes before you answer. You mentioned the IWW, who I shall classify as anarcho-syndicalists. This invites a comparison with the Spanish Civil War, about which one could certainly say, “If the Stalinists hadn’t screwed everything up, then the combined forces of anarcho-syndicalists and Trotskyites would have defeated Franco.” But to make the comparison complete, you would also have to suppose that in the Spanish Civil War, the main imperialist countries, the US and Britain, would have sent expeditionary forces to aid Franco. Then what would have happened? Posted by: Rowan Berkeley | Oct 22 2013 2:54 utc | 22 @19 & 20 That may all be true bevin but where’s the anger? OWS flickered and died. The Tea Party is looking crazier by the day. Truckers didn’t show up for the big protest. Who will be leading the revolution? Jon Stewart? Posted by: dh | Oct 22 2013 3:00 utc | 23 I slagged off Arthur Silber for his anti-Greenwald article, and I slagged off Chris Hedges for his ‘class war’ article, but by a happy synergy, here is Chris Floyd building on Arthur Silber to produce an anti-Greenwald article which even I have to admit is good: here. Posted by: Rowan Berkeley | Oct 22 2013 3:42 utc | 24 Money is sooooo goooooood: women’s breasts banned on FB but decapitations are okay Posted by: Mina | Oct 22 2013 8:36 utc | 25 president Assad interview with Telasur: on the relation of and importance of latin america tov middle east: Posted by: brian | Oct 22 2013 12:37 utc | 26 A coffee commercial you are unlikely to ever see on U.S. TV 🙂 Hmm, yes, for those of you who don’t like the wrap around giant embed feel, that could be: Posted by: Rowan Berkeley | Oct 22 2013 19:00 utc | 29 I don’t follow Russian news closely enough to know the reaction of the government towards the recent unrest (as portrayed in the West at least) in Moscow. I hope the reaction was firm and clear that such things are unacceptable and that the fascists who are involved in anti-social street violence are dealt with harshly. Posted by: guest77 | Oct 23 2013 0:15 utc | 30 I’ve been reading a memoir of the Egyptian Minister of Information during the period between the ’67 – ’73 wars called “The Road To Ramadan”. Posted by: guest77 | Oct 23 2013 0:19 utc | 31 ignoring the will of the people and refusing to learn from history: india opens nuke plant on tsumani exposed coast Posted by: brian | Oct 23 2013 6:20 utc | 32 Ebay is selling a letter written by Albert Einstein at the time of the Deir Yassin massacre in April 1948 to an American Zionist, denouncing the Zionist militias’ terrorist activities. It’s interesting that Einstein’s word, catastrophe, is also the Palestinians’ word in Arabic, the Nakba. The letter’s text: Posted by: brian | Oct 23 2013 7:34 utc | 33 now for something completely different! Posted by: brian | Oct 24 2013 12:10 utc | 34 While Saudi Arabia is Oppressing women by usurping their right to drive, Women’s in Iran are giving tough competition to Men’s in Car Racing. Posted by: brian | Oct 25 2013 6:52 utc | 35 Unreal.
Posted by: guest77 | Oct 25 2013 10:34 utc | 36 More Bassam Youssef in English Posted by: Mina | Oct 25 2013 11:24 utc | 37 Looks like NSA chief and former-NSA chief belong to different churches! Posted by: Mina | Oct 25 2013 12:52 utc | 38 Man Sits Behind Ex-CIA Director On The Train, Eavesdrops, And Live-Tweets His Conversation Posted by: Some1 | Oct 25 2013 17:44 utc | 39 7.3 off the coast of Japan. The Fukushima nightmare continues. Posted by: PissedOffAmerican | Oct 25 2013 20:40 utc | 40 #’s 38 & 39….. Posted by: PissedOffAmerican | Oct 25 2013 20:42 utc | 41 POA @40 Posted by: Philippe | Oct 26 2013 0:11 utc | 42 Looks like the 7.3 off the coast of Fukushima caused only a 3 ft tsunami and the damaged Nuclear Reactor plant escaped unscathed. But the following partially falls under “corporate mismanagement, incompetence and obfuscation”.
Is anyone really paying any attention to what is happening at Fukushima and what is happening to the Pacific environment not to mention Northern Hemispheric atmosphere? My insight this morning was that the only difference between Casandra and the most of us is she was cursed with the psychological lack of denial and complacency. Posted by: juannie | Oct 26 2013 0:49 utc | 43 #42…. Posted by: PissedOffAmerican | Oct 26 2013 0:52 utc | 44 Hey, what happened to “somebody”? Did b turn him into a “nobody”? Posted by: PissedOffAmerican | Oct 26 2013 2:17 utc | 45 Hayden has an adulatory interview in the WaPo. Most interesting thing he says is that he thinks NSA and CYBERCOM (Fort Meade) should merge. Posted by: Rowan Berkeley | Oct 26 2013 6:50 utc | 46 @45 – he is looking for e new nickname, after b’s post Posted by: claudio | Oct 26 2013 7:08 utc | 47 Emptywheel has a nice thing about Hayden & Alexander: Posted by: Rowan Berkeley | Oct 26 2013 8:52 utc | 48 Just started reading this site. This guy is a true hero…. Posted by: PissedOffAmerican | Oct 27 2013 15:53 utc | 49 http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/2/9/84905/World/International/Israeli-PM-orders-survey-of-American-Jews-stopped.aspx Posted by: Mina | Oct 27 2013 18:01 utc | 51 http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/84911/Egypt/Politics-/Breaking-Constitution-committee-eliminates-all-bar.aspx Posted by: Mina | Oct 27 2013 19:16 utc | 52 Vale Lou Reed. Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Oct 28 2013 4:32 utc | 53 abe Posted by: denk | Oct 28 2013 5:12 utc | 54 54 Posted by: denk | Oct 28 2013 5:25 utc | 55 Is Egypt Trying to Block Posted by: brian | Oct 28 2013 12:14 utc | 56 45/47 Posted by: somebody | Oct 30 2013 13:59 utc | 57 another post deleted by atimes Posted by: denk | Oct 31 2013 2:28 utc | 58 pakistan says the no of civilians killed in fukus drone attacks consititute Posted by: denk | Oct 31 2013 10:19 utc | 59 Erdogan in the Wild, wild west :-))
Posted by: somebody | Oct 31 2013 11:24 utc | 60 58 Posted by: denk | Nov 1 2013 4:07 utc | 61 everybody knows that the 1965 indon genocide was muricun orchestrated, [1] Posted by: denk | Nov 1 2013 10:22 utc | 62 59 Posted by: denk | Nov 1 2013 11:17 utc | 63 |
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