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Egypt: Today’s Developments
A big thanks to all the commentators in the recent Egypt threads. The discussion is lively and that is as it should be. Please hold off with ad hominems.
To continue, some points from today's after-the-coup news from Egypt.
There were attacks on army installations in the Sinai and some soldiers died there. This is pretty much off the radar in the news but will play a big role in the thinking and planing of the Egyptian military. Sinai is pretty wild in terms of Jihadi activities, there are lost of weapons there and is also of economic concern.
The Supreme Guide of the Brotherhood Badie was not, as was reported yesterday, incarcerated. Two other high MB leaders were released by the police. Former president Morsi is seemingly still in army custody.
The MB staged rallies all over Egypt today. There is little news of what is happening in the periphery even though that may, in the end, be more important than what is happening in Cairo. In Alexandria MB followers clashed with other demonstrators and also with the army. In upper Egypt an MB crowd tried to storm an orthodox church but was pushed off by army soldiers. In Cairo a demonstration was held at an army place where, allegedly, Morsi is held. The army told the protesters to stand off. Most of them did and MB guides tried to hold them back. But some tried to get to the concertina wire and were shot at. One to three where, reportedly, killed.
A quite big demonstration took place at the Rabaa mosque where the MB had a big stage and where many of the MB higher ups, including the supreme guide, held fierce speeches. From the TV pictures I saw I estimate the crowd there at 100-150,000 max. While the speakers called for peaceful protests they also added quite a bit of toxic sectarian poison. Not only against Copts but also against Al-Azhar, the Islamic high university, and against some Salafist groups. The general idea: The MB are the victims and everyone else is the enemy. The crowd got fired up. No one tried to calm it down.
In the evening groups of MB followers approached the bridges at Maspero towards Tahrir Square which led to a hefty clashes with anti-MB protesters who hold on to Tahrir. Neither the police nor the military intervened at this time. This is likely to get more ugly throughout the night.
The army seems, in general, to hold back and stay defensive. But throughout the day it made a lot of "show of force" noise by sending helicopters and jets into the sky over Cairo. Wasn't there some petroleum shortage? The army's message is: "We will let you protest but be reminded that it is us who have the heavy weapons."
My general impression is that the army is not seeking a fight and allows the MB followers to let off their steam. There is no sign of any harsh suppression so far but that may change anytime.
The silence of the "west" towards this military coup may well be the end of the neoconned "democracy promotion" campaigns we have seen over the last two decades. The hypocrisy is now so obviously stinking that any future mentioning of "democratic principles" in the Middle East by some sanctimonious "westerner" will be rightfully laughed off. The fall of the MB in Cairo has already a dampening effect on the "western" backed Syrian opposition.
@Anonymous | Jul 6, 2013 12:56:06 PM | 102
Ok kid, you’re clearly disjointed and have a hang-up, probably acne and/or hormone change, you will grow out of it and once you lived a little, calm down.
You just are not comprehending anything yet profess to be a regional ‘insider’ and a protector of the faith against the “infidel’ of sorts. All you are emulating is that you’re a devout Morsi supporter that looks like you have been indoctrinated into a fascist Islamic cult, and forcing your sentiment, views and values while expecting all to agree – Where do you live again?
I am not surprised by sectarian violence at all, I did however point out that non-Muslim entity was a target and just because he was not ‘Islamic’, a very valid factor. It is a related outcome and a fact unlike your venting and rants that support and attempt to vindicate that Mursi is a stand up leader loved by all – that is absurd and shows how little you understand the region, specifically Egypt, it’s people and the current situation.
I have no sympathy for sectarian acts, and will use a sectarian argument if valid, I never stated I did not or would not, you just ‘forcing’ context now to justify being ultimately wrong while playing the ‘You’re not one of us’ card – grow-up.
It must matter what I think or you would not be so focused on me, possibly it flicks your switch and you get off on it, but that is an issue you need to take up with your therapist or you are just a naive and argumentative teen who has a chip on her shoulder, possibly with a crush on Morsi – are you loved up? Then again you could be in the ‘Sisterhood’ and just doing your duty, one never knows?
Re: Do I care for Muslims, Islamists minorities in GB? A very broad question, and one that was just anal, but since you pressed again – I have Muslim friends (Many) and I care for my friends, but I don’t know ‘all Muslims, Islamist minorities’, and I am sure I won’t like ‘all’ as much as I don’t like ‘all’ people from other denominations/ethnic or cultural backgrounds either. Your question is just daft and again throwing mud, and being absolutely moronic by painting a picture in hate splatters by numbers.
BTW, double standards; would asking a question, then giving your own answer, much like you did not be considered as such? As for double standards again; I could also ask you for you to reply to questions I presented and you have evaded – like, “ are you Egyptian, and are you in Egypt?” But I know the answer without needing to answer it; again I am making a point.
Secondly your definition of ‘Orentilisim’ is not the root of the meaning or is specific to that region, If you read my last reply, you would have picked up on that. Lastly the majority of Egypt is on the African Continent if you have not noticed, but let’s not get caught in semantics and the nitty-gritty now.
Must dash, UFC live, the Spider is fighting, a minority fighter, being Brazilian and Black, but the one I respect the most in terms of talent and persona, strange that!
Well, ‘I’ will be following the progression on the ‘New’ post, ElBaradie… this post has done its day and has been intresting. I will applogiize, more so to b, as he did state:Please hold off with ad hominems”.
Posted by: kev | Jul 7 2013 0:49 utc | 113
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