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June 11, 2013
Open Thread 2013-11
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http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/06/11/syri-j11.html Posted by: bevin | Jun 11 2013 18:45 utc | 2 On Afghanistan I’ve been noticing something which has been dropped. Every year during the fighting season I check out the official ISAF website for the daily casualty reports of NATO soldiers to try and get a sense if violence is going up or down. It’s useful to see how much NATO troops are getting injured/killed vs previous years. Posted by: Colm O’ Toole | Jun 11 2013 19:13 utc | 3 A very interesting picture of Turkey’s economy as well as the real dimensions of the “unrest” (prison population) predating the current events:
The data also show that debt/family income is 48.1% as of 2012 (compared to 5.5% in 2003 when AKP took over)
It would also be of interest to compare the ratio of prison population to country population in 1981 (height of political oppression after the military coup by Kenan Evren) versus AKP’s “miracle” Turkey of 2011: Posted by: Pirouz_2 | Jun 11 2013 19:17 utc | 4 Pirouz_2 @ 3 Posted by: Zico | Jun 11 2013 20:45 utc | 5 News from Venezuela which I cannot vouch for, but nothing surprises me:
Posted by: Maracatu | Jun 11 2013 21:10 utc | 6 Israeli Commandos Beating and Then Shooting Injured Gaza Flotilla Member Posted by: Michal | Jun 11 2013 22:02 utc | 7 yesterday in venezuela: Posted by: ruralito | Jun 11 2013 22:38 utc | 8 In the United States the bouncers are running the bar. The bikers, called in to provide security, have taken over the stage, the band is playing for their entertainment. As to the crowd? Posted by: bevin | Jun 11 2013 22:55 utc | 9 The Independent: Posted by: bevin | Jun 11 2013 23:04 utc | 10 bevin @ 7: “There is nothing inevitable about the descent into real fascism but the course is clearly set.” Posted by: ben | Jun 12 2013 0:41 utc | 11 From 2001 on the US patriot act: Posted by: ben | Jun 12 2013 2:16 utc | 12 Sales of Orwell’s ’1984′ novel are up by 177 per cent on Amazon, according to the website – 60 years and still going strong… Posted by: kev | Jun 12 2013 4:16 utc | 13 The leak also is parallel to the Bradley Manning court-martial, coincidence? However will cause a stir http://trollthensa.com/ the content (om the site link the keywords are highlighted; Posted by: kev | Jun 12 2013 4:27 utc | 14 The Crassus manifesto : create a problem, offer the solution. Posted by: denk | Jun 12 2013 5:05 utc | 16 An Al-Nusra leader rapes another Al Jazeera reporter Posted by: brian | Jun 12 2013 6:21 utc | 17 how many reporters raped does it take before AJ turns against Alnusra and FSA? Posted by: brian | Jun 12 2013 6:21 utc | 18 Re comments one and two, a surprisingly frank report on Stars & Stripes criticising official ISAF victory bulletins which not infrequently contradict reality: Posted by: Rowan Berkeley | Jun 12 2013 7:52 utc | 19 Brian, thanks for that link. Nice website. She will probably accept a new home and a couple million bucks for her silence. Thats what the whabees call justice. Posted by: hilmi hakim | Jun 12 2013 8:57 utc | 20 @brian #18 “how many reporters raped does it take before AJ turns against Alnusra and FSA?” Posted by: Harry | Jun 12 2013 9:04 utc | 21 and Greece is still not on MoA map ? Are we waiting for the colonels’ boots before considering it’s worthy ? ^^ Posted by: rototo | Jun 12 2013 9:06 utc | 22 http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/06/12/308545/syrian-army-make-advances-in-aleppo/ Posted by: brian | Jun 12 2013 9:13 utc | 23 Nice website Brian. She will get wahabee justice which means a house and a million bucks. Posted by: Hilmihakim | Jun 12 2013 9:18 utc | 24 Monthly Review commemorates the 25th anniversary of the battle that drove the SADF and its ‘Western’ allies out of Angola, and hastened the fall of the apartheid regime: Posted by: Watson | Jun 12 2013 15:35 utc | 25 How Turkey got the money nobody knows Zico at 5. Posted by: Noirette | Jun 12 2013 15:42 utc | 26 In the United States the bouncers are running the bar bevin at 9. Posted by: Noirette | Jun 12 2013 15:45 utc | 27 @ Watson #25 I wish I could consider the peace negotiations following sadf defeat in Angola 1988 as a victory, but right there you have one of the first indications that corporate power will trump military, diplomatic & political power every time it is deemed necessary by fukusi. Posted by: debs is dead | Jun 12 2013 22:56 utc | 30 @debs#30; funny discussing Angola the other day, the UN failed (OK, a Norm) but the Chinese succeeded, this is a trend on the continent, and one the US is battling or trying to counter. Sérgio Vieira de Mello Timor mission, and from the very few good people the UN offers; he died sadly in Iraq (Hotel bombing), likewise, Luiz Carlos da Costa (PDRSG) died in Haiti’s earthquake, another good egg. Both I will note ‘had’ to play ‘Politics’, but did fight for what should be right when push came to shove. Yes, and sadly it is big ‘business’ that drives all ‘Humanitarian’ (Or peacekeeping and the new comical Peace Building) missions. In this light, I worry that the UN is requesting its largest ever funding pledge for Syria (Or not for Syria, but the partners against Syria). Posted by: kev | Jun 13 2013 1:21 utc | 31 @18 all of them. Posted by: guest77 | Jun 13 2013 1:50 utc | 32 @ 30 Posted by: Watson | Jun 13 2013 1:58 utc | 33 Something else to consider: Posted by: guest77 | Jun 13 2013 2:16 utc | 34 b Posted by: denk | Jun 13 2013 4:08 utc | 35 Bit of humor(ish): Low-down and down under – Australians; like the Brits have a certain reputation for having black humor. But in this case it ruffled feathers. One of Australians opposition politician’s campaign team planned a even that went in deep; period. It printed a mock-up menu for a fundraising dinner comparing the Prime Minister Julia Gillard to dead bird, OK, that a chicken, turcky, and the likes, but this was smaller but bigger! Posted by: kev | Jun 13 2013 12:58 utc | 36 When Qusayr fell to the SAA, a rebel leader said on TV that 1000 rebel fighters were on the way from all over Syria to retake it. Is it really that kind of numbers? I mean, that’s not really a lot is it? And I bet you he was inflating that number. They can only fight for so long until the number of killed catches up with them. Posted by: Alexander | Jun 13 2013 14:14 utc | 37 @Alexander When Qusayr fell to the SAA, a rebel leader said on TV that 1000 rebel fighters were on the way from all over Syria to retake it. Is it really that kind of numbers? I mean, that’s not really a lot is it? And I bet you he was inflating that number. They can only fight for so long until the number of killed catches up with them. Just heard the US is arming the usurpers. Russia needs to step up. Posted by: ruralito | Jun 14 2013 2:00 utc | 40 b, Posted by: Cynthia | Jun 14 2013 2:17 utc | 41 Germany miffed with the US calling the program so “alarming” that Germany has a responsibility to address it. It used ’Stazi’ annotations when discussing PRISM’. Posted by: kev | Jun 14 2013 3:13 utc | 42 Re: ‘conspiracy theories’ Posted by: Watson | Jun 14 2013 13:11 utc | 43 @Watson#43, concur to a degree; yet the ‘terminology’ alone; ‘Conspiracy theorist’ one could just say the ‘other version’ even if its ‘truth’ is simply displacing, rejecting other reasoning or diffusing facts from source or thought. Every tale has two sides, that is the wonder of a supposed democracy. Proof may be given, yet never accepted, on the other hand, proof may be speculated and ‘fully accepted’, case in point; Syria and the Gov accused Chem/Wep use (Sarin)! Posted by: kev | Jun 14 2013 13:54 utc | 44 Get a load of this “revolutionist’s” blog: http://louisproyect.org/ Posted by: ruralito | Jun 14 2013 14:35 utc | 45 The documentary linked to – for me – has Eng subtitles, speech is mostly Turkish, with some German and English – is titled Ekumenopolis. Posted by: Noirette | Jun 14 2013 19:25 utc | 46 Is PRISM still in any way effective now that it is public?
Long, but well worth the time to read.. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jun 15 2013 1:13 utc | 47 Did someone help Ed Snowden punch a hole in the NSA?” by Jon Rappoport: Posted by: brian | Jun 15 2013 2:52 utc | 48 sherlock holmes Posted by: denk | Jun 15 2013 3:11 utc | 49 Sally Idwedar @sallyidwedar 14m Posted by: brian | Jun 16 2013 3:18 utc | 50 We can no longer organize that way.
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jun 17 2013 4:02 utc | 51 some parents seem to have an inkling what their children would do for a living Posted by: denk | Jun 17 2013 5:36 utc | 52 A Russian, an American and a Brit walk into a summit; unfortunately I can’t find a punch line – but then Boris Johnson stepped up to the plate; A Brit with a Russian name and born in the US, how funny is that! (His family linage is pretty wild, from 8th cousin of David Cameron, to great-grandson of Ali Kemal Bey, a liberal Turkish journalist). Bar that, he made a statement on Syria, Ok,it’s given at times he does put his foot in his mouth, but is decent to explain the rational or simply appoligize; Posted by: kev | Jun 17 2013 12:58 utc | 53 The British media is having a field day today with Putin’s comments from last night. In the UK at least, newspapers have highlighted Putin’s remarks at a Downing Street press conference to an hysterical comment made by a BBC reporter, zoning in on the depths of depravity that the so-called freedom fighters operate by “eating the organs” of their victims. Posted by: Pat Bateman | Jun 17 2013 16:00 utc | 54 This was posted by the former Chief Privacy Officer at Twitter:
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jun 17 2013 23:59 utc | 55 an interesting dialogue Posted by: denk | Jun 20 2013 5:44 utc | 56 Clearly the Gülen movement/Turkish police is in full out war against Erdogan/MIT. Posted by: somebody | Jun 20 2013 6:22 utc | 57 one thing u gotta hand it to the muricuns, they’r real hard working chaps Posted by: denk | Jun 22 2013 6:58 utc | 59 heard about the girl who wrote this letter to the peace laureate ? Posted by: denk | Jun 23 2013 2:51 utc | 60 the Criminals In Action strike again, oops, sorry its the pakistan talibans ! Posted by: denk | Jun 24 2013 6:10 utc | 62 those who plan to go see the movie World War Z may like to read this blog review first: Posted by: brian | Jun 24 2013 7:52 utc | 63 At least 16 soldiers killed in Sidon Posted by: Pat Bateman | Jun 24 2013 13:20 utc | 64 brian | Jun 24, 2013 3:52:56 AM | 63, downloading now, PB – of course. Superman was all Christian, a bit weird, as that was not the theme as a Kid. In that, Zombies don’t have enemies other than all that is living, unlike this one, that is so RoJ (Rule of Jew)- Hate to say that; do I fuck, it’s so true!. Although I did enjoy District 9 as an alternative in many ways, but not a Zombie flick by any definition at all. This could be the next thing, suicide Zombies ‘infiltration of the West’, a bit like Indiana Jones V’s Nazi ghost warriors, again! Posted by: kev | Jun 24 2013 13:29 utc | 65 |
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