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The Difference?
A 75-year-old man stabbed to death yards from his home may have been targeted in a racially motivated attack, according to police.
Mohammed Saleem, who used a walking stick, was stabbed three times in the back as he returned home from prayers at his local mosque in Small Heath, Birmingham, on Monday night.
The blows were struck with such violence they penetrated to the front of his body.
The father of seven also had no defensive wounds in what has been described as a swift, vicious and cowardly attack by the man leading the murder investigation, Detective Superintendent Mark Payne of West Midlands police.
Birmingham murder may have been racially motivated, say police – 2 May 2013
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Dramatic footage has emerged of the suspected terrorist attack near the London barracks that left one man dead, showing a suspect with blood-covered hands using jihadist rhetoric to justify the violence.
On Wednesday night the prime minister, David Cameron, vowed that Britain will "never buckle" in the face of terrorist incidents, and condemned the "absolutely sickening" killing in Woolwich.
Man killed in deadly terror attack in London street – 22 May 2013
@40. Being neither Muslim or an Christian, as I was not raised to be of ‘any’ religious affinity as my parents (One Catholic the other a protestant, the troubles and all that), decided that I should be old enough to make a choice based on my own thinking and rational (And I thank them for that). In that, both (Mus&Cath) respective afterlife ideologies are somewhat detached and illogical absurd. Although for a man the Islam option seems far more attractive, women don’t get 72 virgins I guess. Those that I know, the mainstream ‘Muslims’ regard the belief of 72 virgins in the same way that ‘mainstream’ Christians regard the belief that after death they will be issued with wings and a harp, and walk on clouds; all a bit daft! On that note; The slave trade started before Islam and Christianity, religion when it took hold just added its reasoning for the ‘Business’ as religions do to most anything. One can see clearly that religion segregates, but hope is doable, as faith tends to unite, but even then, the human trait of Us V’s then comes into play and the chance to make coin just sidelines 99% of ‘religious people’.
Slavery will never be abolished, it us still alive in its original conceptual format and added other ‘new world’ catches/formats; it has morphed; slave to the GDP/System etc, it has its classes and perks to those up the ladder. No one is born equal, just a fact. Much like anything, Location, Location, Location…
Classius Clay, a legend! And a brilliant and resilient martial artist in his ‘discipline’, he did get a whooping a few times, once in Japan and by a Korean Grand Master, but the Korean Art adopted his boxing style as it was very effective, I met the man he fought. He did become a Muslim, the reasons unclear, even to his family, and if you see the conflict of ‘Islam’ it is divided, it was in part political, and race, this was ‘white America’; the religious aspect was a divide decision, but one that added attention, something he craved. He was also confused I guess (Assumption), and the times were complex, he changed his name after joining the Nation of Islam in 1964, even that has racist undertones (often called the Black Muslims at the time by other Muslims, in short a underclass) subsequently converting to Sunni Islam in 1975, and later to Sufism. The irony, African-American descent, with Irish and English ancestry, this also stemmed back to the slave trade and the Arab slave trade taking Europeans. He did go to his African roots, and the fight (I was a kid, and mesmerized). Relevant – The Rumble in the Jungle – Don King on the deal; “By then it was a day late and I knew that, if Elijah Muhammad found out, (The MA decision makers) he would pull out. But he was in Libya visiting Colonel Gaddafi and by a miracle — I always believe I am blessed by God — the electricity was cut that night. By the time it was restored and Elijah checked, the $10m was in the bank.”- Money baby! BTW, D.K was not a Muslim and received death threats from Muslims; anyhow he was a shark for a better word.
MA: One quote, just to sum up the ‘times’ and leaning RE:Vietnam ” No, I am not going 10,000 miles to help murder, kill, and burn other people to simply help continue the domination of white slavemasters over dark people the world over. This is the day and age when such evil injustice must come to an end” and now note, and using freakonomics – Today; Whites and blacks make up almost exactly the same percent of the enlisted personnel as they do in the general population.
Mr. X; (Little) became an African-American Muslim minister; in its own right complex, and did have a tough childhood, one common denominator with Ali; Elijah Muhammad. Little began signing his name “Malcolm X”,explaining in his autobiography, “The Muslim’s ‘X’ symbolized the true African family name that he never could know. ‘X’ replaced the white slavemaster name of ‘Little’ which some blue-eyed devil named Little had imposed upon my paternal forebears.” Little did little know the trade was via a Muslim agent/trader, go figure! He went on changing; using Malcolm Shabazz or Malik el-Shabazz, he was a racist, and a bigot, likewise clever, great, and a snappy dresser, he did change, in a speech a couple of days before he was shot (Could be why he was shot):
“Brother, remember the time that white college girl came into the restaurant—the one who wanted to help the [Black] Muslims and the whites get together—and I told her there wasn’t a ghost of a chance and she went away crying? Well, I’ve lived to regret that incident. In many parts of the African continent I saw white students helping black people. Something like this kills a lot of argument. I did many things as a [Black] Muslim that I’m sorry for now. I was a zombie then—like all [Black] Muslims—I was hypnotized, pointed in a certain direction and told to march. Well, I guess a man’s entitled to make a fool of himself if he’s ready to pay the cost. It cost me 12 years” . He was political; he once described Martin Luther King, Jr. as a “chump”.
He was killed by his own; the Nation of Islam members; that is what happens when you get to high and change the ‘Agenda’. His ‘handler’; Elijah Muhammad, told the annual Savior’s Day convention on February 26, “Malcolm X got just what he preached”, while denying any involvement with the murder.
Lastly: Remains the role of Women; I guess that is in what society; Queens have ruled. A Harem does not make a child legitimate, guards, aids, and others did sneak in, one man cant service 100’s even if he has an appetite; women don’t just get impregnated every day, it has a small window, and they were enslaved. Not all noble or rich men have Harems, that is a cultural thing, one based on image of power, much like a older man buying a sports car, the extension of his cock. Where I am, (Not my Country) the same prevails, 50-70 year old men with 19-25 year wife’s, and 99% are on a meager pension, but here that is a fortune, and that is white men; as for the Arab men here , a different story, no commitment just absolute abuse, even insulting the women after their use. Both are wrong, but one at least commits…
Posted by: kev | May 26 2013 14:30 utc | 42
# 46, Dude; stop living in denial, it’s not garbage, and there are figures on the Islamic slave trade. I note this is the second time you pushed the ‘victim’ card; first the classic ‘racist’ angle, then assuming the source is or must be ‘anti-Muslim’. Get a genealogy test, you may find you are part African…
Elikia M’bokolo (African Historian), wrote in Le Monde diplomatique. “The African continent was bled of its human resources via all possible routes. Across the Sahara, through the Red Sea, from the Indian Ocean ports and across the Atlantic. At least ten centuries of slavery for the benefit of the Muslim countries (from the ninth to the nineteenth).” He continues: “Four million slaves exported via the Red Sea, another four million through the Swahili ports of the Indian Ocean, perhaps as many as nine million along the trans-Saharan caravan route -17 million!
In 2003 a high-level Saudi jurist, Shaykh Saleh Al-Fawzan, issued a fatwa claiming “Slavery is a part of Islam. Slavery is part of jihad, and jihad will remain as long there is Islam – In that, it must exist right; Or was he on crack also? Omar Hassan al-Bashir, the Butcher of Sudan, continues to enjoy the support of the Muslim world despite being indicted for genocide by the International Criminal Court.
You may argue that Islamic slavery, like Islamic terrorism and has nothing to do with Islam since it’s a peaceful religion by all intents (Huh, read the history, and deeds not one book), and yet the rationale for slavery can be found in the Koran and the Hadiths.
You’re in Paris right? Well pop along to the book shop and pick-up this one by Gallimard, entitled Le Génocide Voilé (“Veiled Genocide”), all about the Arab-Muslim slave trade, and goes so far as to qualify the atrocities committed by Arabs to Africans as “genocide.” The author is Tidiane N’Diaye a Senegalese Muslim, anthropologist, economist, and researcher at INSEE (National Institute of Economic Studies) -You might argue he is anti-Muslim as he is a back Muslim, but at least read and not simply wear blinkers.
I could list 100’s of Arab figures/quotes; but you get the point, it is documented, it has facts and figures, and it is epic in proportion.
Arab historian of the 14th century, Ibn-Khaldum, wrote: “The only people who accept slavery are the Negroes, because of an inferior degree of humanity, their place being closer to the level of animals.” Castration method popular among Arab/Muslim slavers was so brutal 70% of the victims died within a few weeks; Arabs wanted many eunuchs for their harems, and those had to be “totally” castrated.
It is not only Africa; India; When Islam came – slaughter, slavery, rape, violence, pillage; destruction of religious sites, art and architecture; poverty, exploitation, humiliation, famine, forced conversion, decline in intellectual pursuits, social destruction and a worsening of social ills. To Islam, anything that is not Islamic is from a time of ignorance –Jahiliyya- and must be destroyed. The onslaught created the Roma (gypsies), destroyed ‘Hindu’ Afghanistan and formed Pakistan (Kashmir) and Bangladesh . (One more good read for you M.A. Khan. IIslamic Jihad).
The cost of the Muslim invasions is massive in lives, wealth and culture. Estimates suggest that 60-80 MILLION died at the hands of Muslim invaders and rulers between 1000 and 1525 alone.
Posted by: kev | May 26 2013 23:31 utc | 49
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