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May 25, 2013
Open Thread 2013-10
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The clampdown on free exchange of ideas and journalism spreads to the UK.
It HAS happened again. Will the Guardian explain? Posted by: erichwwk | May 25 2013 18:26 utc | 1 The US and NATO have declared Al Nusra terrorist. The Turkish foreign minister refuses to answer if Turkey, too, considers Al Nusra terrorist.
Posted by: somebody | May 25 2013 18:37 utc | 2 The FARC, one of the few organizations actually doing something to restore dignity to Colombian underdogs has had its google acct removed. Posted by: ruralito | May 25 2013 19:28 utc | 3 @ 1. Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | May 25 2013 20:00 utc | 4 Will the Guardian explain? Posted by: Mark Stoval | May 25 2013 21:31 utc | 5 re 1 and the Guardian Posted by: alexno | May 25 2013 21:45 utc | 6 Nice map showing the immense mineral resources of Afghanistan – US interests are not just about the potential pipeline. Posted by: Northern Night Owl | May 26 2013 0:41 utc | 7 Tonight’s Nasrallah speech with English subtitles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNZolXjZX24 … Posted by: brian | May 26 2013 1:10 utc | 8 Posted by: alexno | May 25, 2013 5:45:51 PM | 6 Posted by: brian | May 26 2013 1:11 utc | 9 These are the terrorists that monsters like Obama, Erdogan, Cameron, and Holland support: Posted by: Amar | May 26 2013 4:00 utc | 10 Syrian Arab Airlines flight syr442 from Moscow to Damascus got squawk code 0000 about 5:30 cet, and was forced to land in Iraq. Squawk code 0000 means military interception in the US. Iraq caved in to US pressure to harass transports to Syria from Iran,albeit reluctantly and probably not without giving the Syrians info in advance since both government are on good terms with each other and fights the same ZATO mercenaries. This is the first time a flight from Moscow was intercepted according to that in Iraq. The Turks forced another Moscow-Damascus flight earlier this year to land in Ankara, Syria then changed route over friendlier countries I.E, Iraq-Iran and onwards… Posted by: Mrs.Magma | May 26 2013 4:08 utc | 11 This is very old news (at least 30+ years), but one of the most intense things I have ever heard: a young Iranian man describes his torture at the hands of the Iranian Shah’s SAVAK police. Posted by: guest77 | May 26 2013 4:49 utc | 12 Is anyone here familiar with an old US cable access show called “Alternative Views”? It existed from ’79 – about ’95 far as I can tell, out of Austin. Posted by: guest77 | May 26 2013 4:53 utc | 13 @4 Totally. What Russia is doing in Syria – not finished, of course – is every bit as important as the statement they made by putting Georgia (and it’s Israeli and US backers) in its place. Posted by: guest77 | May 26 2013 5:09 utc | 14 @7 Incredible speech. The most sense I’ve heard about the Sunni/Shia infighting. Posted by: guest77 | May 26 2013 5:18 utc | 15 Turkey, the Banana republic
Posted by: somebody | May 26 2013 8:34 utc | 16 There ain’t no such thing as free speech, just ask PFC Bradley Manning. Posted by: Fernando | May 26 2013 8:42 utc | 17 @Mrs.Magma #10 Posted by: Gehenna | May 26 2013 8:49 utc | 18 So the takfiri/wahabi/salafi bin-ladenites have decided to open another front Lebanon..Just today, they fired two rockets at a pro-Hezbollah neighbourhood…I guess Harriri’s forgotten the beating he took in 2008… Posted by: Zico | May 26 2013 8:55 utc | 19 @Gehenna#16 Posted by: Mrs.Magma | May 26 2013 9:51 utc | 20 more Turkey – what happened at the kissing protest?
Posted by: somebody | May 26 2013 10:36 utc | 21 Somebody, thanks for this post. The Muslim brotherhood is showing their true colors. Yet, they claim to be moderates. Thank God, Syrians will never allow them to succeed. Long live Bashar and the brave Syrian Army. Posted by: Hilmihakim | May 26 2013 10:51 utc | 22 what happens in Iraq?
P.S. I do not believe above description of Iraqui politics by the Economist correct, I just find it interesting. Posted by: somebody | May 26 2013 11:27 utc | 23 there is also this
So is Al Maliki fighting Al Qeida or is he oppressing Sunnis? I wonder. Posted by: somebody | May 26 2013 11:34 utc | 24 There is also this Posted by: Gehenna | May 26 2013 13:31 utc | 25 Syrian gov. is getting fooled if they accept being part of the “Peace-talks”, just shows that they are desperate themselves fighting these terrorists. Posted by: Anonymous | May 26 2013 13:53 utc | 26 it should be obvious by now that unhcr, *the highest office for human rights* [sic], is just another tool for fukus imperialism. Posted by: denk | May 26 2013 15:02 utc | 27
Hezbollah Sec-Gen Seyyed Hassan Nasrallah, now if he has said this then it is TRUE. This man never boasts, or promises something he cannot deliver, regardless of what that armchair revolutionary Angry Arab says about him. Things must be coming to a conclusion soon. Posted by: hans | May 26 2013 15:02 utc | 28 it should be obvious by now that unhcr, *the highest office for human rights* [sic], is just another tool for fukus imperialism. Posted by: denk | May 26 2013 15:03 utc | 29 3] *Department of Immigration (DoI) sent nine Tibetans to jail on April 30 after they refused to pay fines for illegally entering Nepal. The detention evoked so much diplomatic pressure from Western countries, mainly the US, that the Tibetans were released after five days in jail. Posted by: denk | May 26 2013 15:05 utc | 30 [5] http://www.4thmedia.org/2012/11/05/the-rohingya-myanmar-and-suu-kyi%c2%B4s-difficult-dance-with-double-standards-it-takestwo-to-tango/ Posted by: denk | May 26 2013 15:07 utc | 31 Here is an interview of Ziad Fadel owner of Syrian Perspective Blog. Worth listening, this man has lots of insight in Syria. Posted by: hans | May 26 2013 15:07 utc | 32 [7] Posted by: denk | May 26 2013 15:09 utc | 33 Yep,the Guardian shows it’s true Ziocolors once again.Free speech?Ha.Assange fingered them a while ago.All those comments up in smoke.The clowns banned me for questioning their narrative of the Holocaust,the whole basis for our current disaster of some are more special than others. Posted by: dahoit | May 26 2013 15:13 utc | 34 re somebody 21
I think the Economist is just talking to its American readers there, who want to hear that US policy is still decisive. (The American market is very important for the Economist). Posted by: alexno | May 26 2013 15:19 utc | 35 @Denk #24 WFP has always been a tool, one example of many; in Haiti it killed the corn crops in exchange for ‘USAID’ rice decades ago, then Bush/Clinton 2007 invested in 1/3 of the land. IN most of the places I have been the WFP is just a donor fencing OP, the initial ‘display’ tends to be feeding the masses’ later you see the produce in the local shops. Import is the key, what you don’t have we will sell you, what you do have we will remove then sell you what we have. As much as donor reliance is a weakness and stagnates, it is also the MO in order to conduct business. As the saying goes; ‘Never teach a man to fish, or he will’ the role of economic churn for ‘Assistance is not self reliance’. Posted by: kev | May 26 2013 15:38 utc | 36 @25 Here is an extended speech (1hr 8min) from May 9th. At 44:00 min in, he notes that Israel is opening the door for popular resistance in the Golan Heights. He says they Hezbollah will provide financial and moral support and help with coordination to liberate the Golan. Posted by: guest77 | May 26 2013 16:46 utc | 37 34 it is checkmate for Israel
I am not sure what the US Russian understanding is. My gut feeling is that they let Syria finish Al Nusra and the US stops its support for extremist groups destabilizing the Ex Soviet Empire. The understanding will also concern Iran. Posted by: somebody | May 26 2013 17:25 utc | 38 Here’s a recent cartoon by Mr. Fish, which has me a bit baffled: Posted by: Cynthia | May 26 2013 19:05 utc | 39 Here’s a recent cartoon by Mr. Fish, which has me a bit baffled: Posted by: Cynthia | May 26 2013 19:29 utc | 40 39 – from Wikipedia Posted by: somebody | May 26 2013 19:40 utc | 41 Oh, now I get it, somebody. Thanks for the info. Posted by: Cynthia | May 26 2013 20:09 utc | 42 kev 36 Posted by: denk | May 27 2013 3:20 utc | 43 Two Le Monde journalists claim to have witnesses gas warfare in Syria. Posted by: Rhysa | May 27 2013 10:38 utc | 44 @Rhysa – agree – also the symptoms described in that piece are all consistent with riot control gases and inconsistent with chemical weapon use Strange, the recent Texas ‘shooting’ got very little air time, near zero outside the US. Posted by: kev | May 27 2013 23:05 utc | 46 @Denk#43, It is a shame, WFP has some fantastic people, it’s only when a political agenda is laid they are reprimanded ‘Don’t rock the boat’. It is really either your in or out, for the majority it is a job, thus income and a lifeline, in turn they turn a blind eye. One can say the same for most of the entities, this includes military/service personel, either by Nation or within a collective like Nato or Peacekeeping. The combatant (Including non-combatants) simply follow orders in the belief they are doing right. I personally throw a track when civilians are used, entrapped, victimized etc. Unfortunately that seems to be the MO across the board, call it the PR and Marketing element; it is big business after all. Posted by: kev | May 28 2013 11:29 utc | 47 The new enemies list is out! Posted by: guest77 | May 29 2013 2:09 utc | 48 @Guest77#48 – Malaysia does not gel with laundering reports and DOJ data. EXAMPLE: http://www.state.gov/j/inl/rls/nrcrpt/2013/vol2/204063.htm but the US has been interfering there, my assumption is the Asian Pacific drive. A focus on disruption within the banking system would be a ideal method to disrupt business. Here is an interesting piece, US-Saudi funded terrorists invade eastern Malaysian state of Sabah http://www.presstv.com/detail/2013/03/08/292512/usled-terrorists-invade-malaysia/ Posted by: kev | May 29 2013 8:06 utc | 49 Emre KIZILKAYA @ekizilkaya 36m Posted by: somebody | May 31 2013 18:37 utc | 52 Do you smell the military restoration of Atatürk’s order approaching ? Posted by: Rhysa | May 31 2013 21:19 utc | 53 I think it might be time for a Turkey thread… Posted by: Malooga | Jun 1 2013 2:47 utc | 54 the insufferable muricuns are at it again, Posted by: denk | Jun 2 2013 16:11 utc | 55 another one bite the dust Posted by: denk | Jun 7 2013 17:53 utc | 56 How did Ambassador Stevens die in Libya? Posted by: somebody | Jun 8 2013 7:09 utc | 57 Oh the Stupidity – it burns. Posted by: nobody | Jun 8 2013 9:22 utc | 58 58) nothing?
Posted by: somebody | Jun 8 2013 9:35 utc | 59 more – nothing –
Posted by: somebody | Jun 8 2013 10:01 utc | 60 I post this https://www.facebook.com/elegiesofresistance?fref=ts for b, dan of steel ,juan, lizard and many other old friends comrades contributors here in this place….of remembereringgiap Posted by: lotsofnoise | Jun 8 2013 21:30 utc | 62 |
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