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May 25, 2013
Open Thread 2013-10

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The clampdown on free exchange of ideas and journalism spreads to the UK.
UPDATE: To Glenn Greenwald’s Guardian Column:
Andrew Sullivan, terrorism, and the art of distortion
Challenging the conventional western narrative on terrorism produces unique amounts of rage and bile. It’s worth examining why

For reasons I’ll let the Guardian explain, all of the comments to all of the columns and articles posted on the London attack were deleted, and the comment sections then closed. I hope that won’t happen to today’s column here, as the topics discussed here are not really about the attack but the broader debate about terrorism. But it’s possible that it will happen again. Those wanting to post comments should be aware of this possibility before spending your time and energy to write one.

It HAS happened again. Will the Guardian explain?

Posted by: erichwwk | May 25 2013 18:26 utc | 1

The US and NATO have declared Al Nusra terrorist. The Turkish foreign minister refuses to answer if Turkey, too, considers Al Nusra terrorist.

Meanwhile, Aykan Erdemir, a main opposition Republican People’s Party (CHP) deputy told the Daily News on the phone yesterday that he was the one to ask Davutoğlu if Turkey considered the al-Nusra Front in Syria, which identifies itself a jihadist movement, as a terrorist organization like the U.S. and NATO do.
“It was a yes or no question; in not answering it, he called me an Orientalist, which is total defamation. Does he also blame al-Nusra for Orientalism? Do you count this organization as a terrorist organization or not, that was the question. The Turkish public must be informed about Turkey’s position,” Erdemir said.

Posted by: somebody | May 25 2013 18:37 utc | 2

The FARC, one of the few organizations actually doing something to restore dignity to Colombian underdogs has had its google acct removed.
http://pazfarc-ep.blogspot.ca/

Posted by: ruralito | May 25 2013 19:28 utc | 3

@ 1.
Wow! I can’t begin to tell you how surprised I’m not.
I’m only an eentsy bit paranoid, but the 1%’s information-management freaks are getting noticeably crazier by the month. I was actually quite surprised that the Guardian published the comments to their terrorist/butchery story because it was quite predictable that they’d be unfavourable and anti-FWoT.
Actually, I suspect the 1% are shitting themselves over Syria now that it is becoming OBVIOUS, to everyone except Blind Freddy (and Malooga’s Feckless Left), that Russia isn’t merely calling America’s bluff – if the Yankees want a war Russia is as ready as it will ever be to give them one everybody will lose.
Info Management must be a huge business in the West. I skimmed the comments in Greenwald’s article (after alexno confirmed that I hadn’t been paying attention – and the Guardian was publishing comments) and noticed that the percentage of comments from Right-wing cranks is even higher than it was a year or so ago. If the comments have been removed, it suggests to me that it’s no longer acceptable to the 1% to see left-ish comments ‘balanced’ by redneck-ish comments.
Pretending we don’t exist and that our views are too dangerous/sane to see the light of day is an extremely Orwellian move.
Disqus Comment Policy at Xymphora has been tightened up since the last time I commented there – a month or two ago. There’s trouble brewing, folks.
I love trouble. It sharpens the mind.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | May 25 2013 20:00 utc | 4

Will the Guardian explain?
I doubt there will be an explanation, and even if there is it will be blamed on the lawyers and the laws in the EU.
The “progressive” newspaper wiped out thousands of comments in one fell blow. Typical of The Guardian.

Posted by: Mark Stoval | May 25 2013 21:31 utc | 5

re 1 and the Guardian
I wonder how long Glenn Greenwald is going to remain columnist of the Guardian. Till tomorrow?
Re the Guardian. I quite agree that the Guardian is unsatisfactory in its policy on comments. Anything said against Israel is liable to be struck out, commonly without trace. There is one editor of comments in particular who is vicious in respect of Israel. You have to modulate your comments carefully, if they are to pass. However racist comments anti-Arab are no problem.
Nevertheless you have to ask the question: are there other press sites which encourage the same freedom of comments as the Guardian?

Posted by: alexno | May 25 2013 21:45 utc | 6

Nice map showing the immense mineral resources of Afghanistan – US interests are not just about the potential pipeline.
http://www.sabinabecker.com/2013/05/clip-n-save-why-are-we-in-afghanistan.html
If you scroll down in the blog, delightful news about the inauguration of the Ecuadoran President and the honoured guests. Mentioned also, the most important developments in S. America which the US can’t concentrate on stopping, being somewhat preoccupied elsewhere. 🙁

Posted by: Northern Night Owl | May 26 2013 0:41 utc | 7

Tonight’s Nasrallah speech with English subtitles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNZolXjZX24

Posted by: brian | May 26 2013 1:10 utc | 8

Posted by: alexno | May 25, 2013 5:45:51 PM | 6
yes the now banned in UK Press TV

Posted by: brian | May 26 2013 1:11 utc | 9

These are the terrorists that monsters like Obama, Erdogan, Cameron, and Holland support:
http://www.mashreghnews.ir/fa/news/217783/تصاویر-همه-اتفاقات-هولناک-در-سوریه-18

Posted by: Amar | May 26 2013 4:00 utc | 10

Syrian Arab Airlines flight syr442 from Moscow to Damascus got squawk code 0000 about 5:30 cet, and was forced to land in Iraq. Squawk code 0000 means military interception in the US. Iraq caved in to US pressure to harass transports to Syria from Iran,albeit reluctantly and probably not without giving the Syrians info in advance since both government are on good terms with each other and fights the same ZATO mercenaries. This is the first time a flight from Moscow was intercepted according to that in Iraq. The Turks forced another Moscow-Damascus flight earlier this year to land in Ankara, Syria then changed route over friendlier countries I.E, Iraq-Iran and onwards…

Posted by: Mrs.Magma | May 26 2013 4:08 utc | 11

This is very old news (at least 30+ years), but one of the most intense things I have ever heard: a young Iranian man describes his torture at the hands of the Iranian Shah’s SAVAK police.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSfNydwo33E
Notice the show, you can find tons like it if you follow the user on the YouTube video. It looks to be an incredible cable access show. You all are likely familiar with it, but I was not. Watching them is really an incredible way to understand the history of those times.
And of course everything they discuss applies 100% today. How soon we forget the recent past!
@4 “Russia isn’t merely calling America’s bluff – if the Yankees want a war Russia is as ready as it will ever be to give them one everybody will lose.”
Totally. Though I don’t think the Russians and Chinese would do anything rash and stupid, I think you are right – they are making completely clear that they have no intention of bowing down to the United States. What the Russians have done in Syria (though it’s not over yet) is as important as what they did in Georgia.

Posted by: guest77 | May 26 2013 4:49 utc | 12

Is anyone here familiar with an old US cable access show called “Alternative Views”? It existed from ’79 – about ’95 far as I can tell, out of Austin.
I’ve been watching them now – many are on YouTube. An incredible look at history still affecting us today.

Posted by: guest77 | May 26 2013 4:53 utc | 13

@4 Totally. What Russia is doing in Syria – not finished, of course – is every bit as important as the statement they made by putting Georgia (and it’s Israeli and US backers) in its place.
The Russians are doing really well at keeping spaces open which are outside of the control of the US Empire. I hope they take the same care to maintain their alliances, especially in Latin America and Cuba.
And if Russia can effectively take these stands, then just wait for China to start making it’s weight felt.
It’s sad that it is some nations “fate” – Syria now, VietNam less recently, and of course the Soviet Union in the 1940s – to make such incredible sacrifices in the face of murderous fascism. They really save the rest of us from the same fate. When this is all over, the brave Syrian people will deserve the same respect that the Soviet Heroes of World War Two deserve.

Posted by: guest77 | May 26 2013 5:09 utc | 14

@7 Incredible speech. The most sense I’ve heard about the Sunni/Shia infighting.
Now hopefully the sensible Sunnis will do what’s right by killing and starving out the Al Qaeda elements. And then from there, make the same judgement felt on those who are really behind Al Qaeda and the like minded groups – all those disgusting petro-tyrants in the Arabian Peninsula.

Posted by: guest77 | May 26 2013 5:18 utc | 15

Turkey, the Banana republic

So, after a full week, all we have is official statements and conflicting accounts that were leaked by various authorities to the media. The picture that they draw tells us that some Turkish collaborators did it for the Syrian regime. Pro-government media also accused local Alawites, as Reyhanli is predominantly Sunni.
* But there are still a lot of black holes. Police say that scores of security cameras in Reyhanli were either broken or turned off during the attack. After a previous car bomb attack in Cilvegozu border gate, police had been blamed by opposition MPs for hiding the CCTV footage that was allegedly proving that the Syrian rebels, not the regime agents, organized it.
* Beyond such arguments that there might be a cover-up in the establishment, there are even bigger mysteries. For instance, nobody explained yet why a corpse was tied to one of the car bombs with copper wires, even though this photo was in almost all newspapers in Turkey including Hurriyet, Milliyet, Sabah and Aksam just after the bombing.
* In the end, fifty people died, Turkish society is even more divided and many people don’t have any trust for the official investigation. The only indisputable outcome of this process is how the crime scene became another arena in the silent fight between the Gulenist-dominated police force and the Erdoganist-dominated national intelligence service (MIT).

Posted by: somebody | May 26 2013 8:34 utc | 16

There ain’t no such thing as free speech, just ask PFC Bradley Manning.

Posted by: Fernando | May 26 2013 8:42 utc | 17

@Mrs.Magma #10
Have you got a link? Couldn’t find any on it.
This would (if Iraq cooperates fully) spell out bad news for Syria. They’ve choked off most avenues of supply and now they try this. What forced the Iraqi government to cave in? So far they had been able to resist the pressure from the US because they had nothing that could sway Iraq. Why the sudden change?

Posted by: Gehenna | May 26 2013 8:49 utc | 18

So the takfiri/wahabi/salafi bin-ladenites have decided to open another front Lebanon..Just today, they fired two rockets at a pro-Hezbollah neighbourhood…I guess Harriri’s forgotten the beating he took in 2008…
Interesting times…

Posted by: Zico | May 26 2013 8:55 utc | 19

@Gehenna#16
I followed the incident live at:
http://www.flightradar24.com/
The plane was en route to Damascus and had no reason other than being intercepted, to go down in Iraq. Not
with squawk 0000, but it hasn´t turned up in the news just yet.
The pressure & arm-twisting on the Iraqis must be intense. ZATO & ZUSA all of a sudden turns up the heat directing their Al-Qaeda merc´s to wreak havoc, should they not fall in line. The Americans also managed to halt an Iraqi order of Russian arms, which no seems to be on hold for various reasons.

Posted by: Mrs.Magma | May 26 2013 9:51 utc | 20

more Turkey – what happened at the kissing protest?
This:

Police attempted to prevent a group of around 200 from entering the subway trains, but some couples did manage to kiss each other despite the police intervention. A second group of around 30 people tried to separate the kissing demonstrators, even resorting to physical contact, daily Hürriyet reported on its website. Riot police also intervened, the report said.
Some of the protesters were also attacked by an unidentified group as they left the metro station, Hürriyet also reported.

or this

ANKARA: Islamists attacked a group of kissing couples who locked lips in a Turkish metro station to protest a morality campaign by the authorities in Ankara, the local press reported on Sunday.
One person was stabbed when about 20 Islamists chanting “Allah Akhbar” (God is Greatest) and some carrying knives attacked the demonstrators on Saturday, the Milliyet and Hurriyet newspapers reported.
About 200 people staged the kissing protest after officials in the Ankara municipality, which is run by Turkey’s ruling Islamist-rooted Justice and Development Party (AKP), admonished a young couple for kissing in the street.

Posted by: somebody | May 26 2013 10:36 utc | 21

Somebody, thanks for this post. The Muslim brotherhood is showing their true colors. Yet, they claim to be moderates. Thank God, Syrians will never allow them to succeed. Long live Bashar and the brave Syrian Army.

Posted by: Hilmihakim | May 26 2013 10:51 utc | 22

what happens in Iraq?

Although the influence of America has greatly diminished, it still plays a big role as mediator, seeking to bring together Iraqi officials with Sunni leaders who view the United States as their protector. But Arab governments in the region, all Sunni-dominated bar Lebanon’s, view Iraq’s Shia-led government with fear, distrust and hostility, and are loth to offer Mr Maliki help. The Arab League has closed its mission in Baghdad, established with fanfare when Iraq held the organisation’s rotating presidency. That honour now belongs to Qatar, which Iraq’s government accuses of condoning and even paying for the current wave of attacks. It also blames Saudi Arabia and Turkey. With such sectarian bad blood stirring across the region, the chances of soon restoring harmony in Iraq look slim.

P.S. I do not believe above description of Iraqui politics by the Economist correct, I just find it interesting.

Posted by: somebody | May 26 2013 11:27 utc | 23

there is also this

BAGHDAD – Iraqi forces mounted a massive operation on Saturday to better secure the country’s western desert amid concerns it is being used by Sunnis heading to fight in neighbouring Syria.
Some 20,000 troops attacked suspected hideouts of fighters linked to Sunni militant groups, including Al-Qaeda, and looked to secure a key road leading to Syria, top officers said.
Troops were also moved to the 600-kilometre (375-mile) border with Syria.
“The operation is large and backed by the air force,” Staff General Ali Ghaidan Majeed, the head of ground forces, said. “It has resulted in the arrest of several Al-Qaeda members and the destruction of some of their strongholds.”
“The target of the operation is also to clean the desert of the terrorist elements that exist there.”
Two senior commanders in Al-Qaeda’s local front group, the Islamic State of Iraq, were among those killed.
Majeed did not say how many troops had been sent to the border.
The operation is being carried out in parts of border provinces Anbar and Nineveh, where Iraqi and Western officials are concerned that Sunni militant groups opposed to the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and to Iraq’s Shiite-led government have set up camp.

So is Al Maliki fighting Al Qeida or is he oppressing Sunnis? I wonder.

Posted by: somebody | May 26 2013 11:34 utc | 24

There is also this
He travelled there today on a surprise visit. Either they need to further discuss securing the shared border area or it has to do with mrs Pragma’s post.
The recent troubles in Iraq with the sunni’s could also be an explanation for the grounding of the aircraft (still awaiting any mention on newssites). The US helped set up the awakening council with which there is now trouble. They could use it’s influence as leverage against the iraqi government.
concerning Turkey:
The attack against the kiss-in doesn’t surprise me at all. They’re (AKP) islamising the whole country at an alarming rate. Here is another prime example: Turkey will limit alcohol sales

Posted by: Gehenna | May 26 2013 13:31 utc | 25

Syrian gov. is getting fooled if they accept being part of the “Peace-talks”, just shows that they are desperate themselves fighting these terrorists.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 26 2013 13:53 utc | 26

it should be obvious by now that unhcr, *the highest office for human rights* [sic], is just another tool for fukus imperialism.
head honcho navi pillay supplied the moral fig leave for fukus regime change in libya, syria, she was the one who proposed the notorious nfz scam. [1]
unhcr has also been busy targeting countries not in fukus orbit for *war crimes* [sic] [2]
thats is the overt front
i’ve seen enough evidence now to come to the conclusion unhcr is also actively involved in covert ops
in nepal, the unhcr has been abetting human trafficking of tibetans out of china .
poor peasants were lured by the promise of gold in usa, they paid exorbitant fee to the traffickers. once across the border, they were brought to unhcr office by corrupt cops who’r paid to bring in tibetans on commision basis.
if the tibetans were caught n landed in jail, the unhcr pressured [sic] the local police to release the illegals n send them to its office.
imagine, *the highest office for human rights* engaging in the inhuman crime of trafficking , acting like a colonial era viceroy office, riding roughshod over poor little nepal !!
to what end one might ask ?
these poor sods prolly end up in *re-education camps*, where they were indoctrined to be cannon fodders for fukus demonisation campaign against china.
like those who rough up the wheelchair bound chinese athletic in the 2008 olympics procession in london ?
god knows, many might’ve received cia coaching n sent back to china as agent provocateurs, sleepers.
[3]
in 2004,
afghan taliban killed an unhcr worker n a Médecins Sans Frontières staff coz *they were doing fukus bidding* [4]
in 2012,
*two employees of the UNHCR and the world food program were arrested in Myanmar and sentenced for their complicity in the manufacturing of the violence between the Rohingya and Buddhists* [5]
unhcr engaged in cia style caper, stirring ethnic violence, ?
how do i know myanmar was telling the truth ?
firstly, cia has been up to its eyeballs doing exactly this kind of shit in myanmar for the past five decades [6]
more to the point, my hunch never fail me . .
forchrissake, is *world food program* implicated too ?
these days cia seem to *outsource* its nefarious acts to every god damned *ngo*s like Reporters San Frontieres, [7]
msf, unhcr etc., wasnt the polio elimination progrom in pak infiltrated by cia ?
with the fukus around, nothing is sacred any more, nothing.
fukus, the ultimate corruptor.
*to assume the worst of fukus give u tremendous predictive power*
[courtesy assasination press]
[1]
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2011/02/libya-un-officials-says-a-no-fly-zone-may-be-necessary-to-protect-civilians.html
http://www.cfr.org/syria/un-high-commissioner-human-rights-statement-syria-february-2012/p27370
[2]
*Not only Kashmir why UNHR and Navinathan Pillai silence on Indian invasion on Kingdom of Sikkim in 1975. How come she dumb on Sikkim nationals human rights. ?*
http://www.lankaweb.com/news/items/2013/03/03/big-power-politics-flush-un-charter-down-the-toilet/
[3] *Department of Immigration (DoI) sent nine Tibetans to jail on April 30 after they refused to pay fines for illegally entering Nepal. The detention evoked so much diplomatic pressure from Western countries, mainly the US, that the Tibetans were released after five days in jail.
The pressure was so intense that officials at the Nepali embassy in Washington DC had to call up the Immigration Office in Nepal, asking it to release the arrested.* [sic]
http://archives.myrepublica.com/portal/index.php?action=news_details&news_id=20403

Posted by: denk | May 26 2013 15:02 utc | 27

I say to all the honorable people, to the Mujahedin, to the heroes: I have always promised you a victory and now I pledge to you a new one. We will continue along the road, bear the responsibilities and the sacrifices. This battle is ours, and I promise you victory.

Hezbollah Sec-Gen Seyyed Hassan Nasrallah, now if he has said this then it is TRUE. This man never boasts, or promises something he cannot deliver, regardless of what that armchair revolutionary Angry Arab says about him. Things must be coming to a conclusion soon.

Posted by: hans | May 26 2013 15:02 utc | 28

it should be obvious by now that unhcr, *the highest office for human rights* [sic], is just another tool for fukus imperialism.
head honcho navi pillay supplied the moral fig leave for fukus regime change in libya, syria, she was the one who proposed the notorious nfz scam. [1]
unhcr has also been busy targeting countries not in fukus orbit for *war crimes* [sic] [2]
thats is the overt front
i’ve seen enough evidence now to come to the conclusion unhcr is also actively involved in covert ops
in nepal, the unhcr has been abetting human trafficking of tibetans out of china .
poor peasants were lured by the promise of gold in usa, they paid exorbitant fee to the traffickers. once across the border, they were brought to unhcr office by corrupt cops who’r paid to bring in tibetans on commision basis.
if the tibetans were caught n landed in jail, the unhcr pressured [sic] the local police to release the illegals n send them to its office.
imagine, *the highest office for human rights* engaging in the inhuman crime of trafficking , acting like a colonial era viceroy office, riding roughshod over poor little nepal !!
to what end one might ask ?
these poor sods prolly end up in *re-education camps*, where they were indoctrined to be cannon fodders for fukus demonisation campaign against china.
like those who rough up the wheelchair bound chinese athletic in the 2008 olympics procession in london ?
god knows, many might’ve received cia coaching n sent back to china as agent provocateurs, sleepers.
[3]
in 2004,
afghan taliban killed an unhcr worker n a Médecins Sans Frontières staff coz *they were doing fukus bidding* [4]
in 2012,
*two employees of the UNHCR and the world food program were arrested in Myanmar and sentenced for their complicity in the manufacturing of the violence between the Rohingya and Buddhists* [5]
unhcr engaged in cia style caper, stirring ethnic violence, ?
how do i know myanmar was telling the truth ?
firstly, cia has been up to its eyeballs doing exactly this kind of shit in myanmar for the past five decades [6]
more to the point, my hunch never fail me . .
forchrissake, is *world food program* implicated too ?
these days cia seem to *outsource* its nefarious acts to every god damned *ngo*s like Reporters San Frontieres, [7]
msf, unhcr etc., wasnt the polio elimination progrom in pak infiltrated by cia ?
with the fukus around, nothing is sacred any more, nothing.
fukus, the ultimate corruptor.
*to assume the worst of fukus give u tremendous predictive power*
[courtesy assasination press]
[1]
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2011/02/libya-un-officials-says-a-no-fly-zone-may-be-necessary-to-protect-civilians.html
http://www.cfr.org/syria/un-high-commissioner-human-rights-statement-syria-february-2012/p27370
[2]
*Not only Kashmir why UNHR and Navinathan Pillai silence on Indian invasion on Kingdom of Sikkim in 1975. How come she dumb on Sikkim nationals human rights. ?*
http://www.lankaweb.com/news/items/2013/03/03/big-power-politics-flush-un-charter-down-the-toilet/

Posted by: denk | May 26 2013 15:03 utc | 29

3] *Department of Immigration (DoI) sent nine Tibetans to jail on April 30 after they refused to pay fines for illegally entering Nepal. The detention evoked so much diplomatic pressure from Western countries, mainly the US, that the Tibetans were released after five days in jail.
The pressure was so intense that officials at the Nepali embassy in Washington DC had to call up the Immigration Office in Nepal, asking it to release the arrested.* [sic]
http://archives.myrepublica.com/portal/index.php?action=news_details&news_id=20403
[4] http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2004-06/21/content_341247.htm

Posted by: denk | May 26 2013 15:05 utc | 30

Here is an interview of Ziad Fadel owner of Syrian Perspective Blog. Worth listening, this man has lots of insight in Syria.

Posted by: hans | May 26 2013 15:07 utc | 32

[7]
*Three protesters were arrested, but then immediately released. None were
Tibetan.
The three French men, it turns out, are all from a notorious right-wing organization that’s funded by the governments of France and the United States as well as some of the richest capitalists in the world. They all are employees of the outfit called Reporters Without Borders.*
http://www.workers.org/2008/world/anti-china_olympics_0403/

Posted by: denk | May 26 2013 15:09 utc | 33

Yep,the Guardian shows it’s true Ziocolors once again.Free speech?Ha.Assange fingered them a while ago.All those comments up in smoke.The clowns banned me for questioning their narrative of the Holocaust,the whole basis for our current disaster of some are more special than others.
And the Bahrain government,the criminals backing the wackos in Syria,call Nasrallah the terrorist!My God,the hypocrisy.
And all these Chechens running around America;Who da hell let them in post 9-11?Another buried angle,how the neolibcon scum let these clowns in to tweak Russia and we deal with the results.And haven’t these recent attacks here and in London given the respective governments fodder for more idiocy?One would almost think they were concocted by said governments,as they sure don’t help Muslims in any way.

Posted by: dahoit | May 26 2013 15:13 utc | 34

re somebody 21
Economist-

Although the influence of America has greatly diminished, it still plays a big role as mediator, seeking to bring together Iraqi officials with Sunni leaders who view the United States as their protector.

I think the Economist is just talking to its American readers there, who want to hear that US policy is still decisive. (The American market is very important for the Economist).
Same as I don’t believe MrsMagma’s story about a Syrian plane forced down in Iraq. The Kurds might do it, or tolerate it being done by the US, but not the Arab Iraqis. Maliki still has to stay in with Tehran.

Posted by: alexno | May 26 2013 15:19 utc | 35

@Denk #24 WFP has always been a tool, one example of many; in Haiti it killed the corn crops in exchange for ‘USAID’ rice decades ago, then Bush/Clinton 2007 invested in 1/3 of the land. IN most of the places I have been the WFP is just a donor fencing OP, the initial ‘display’ tends to be feeding the masses’ later you see the produce in the local shops. Import is the key, what you don’t have we will sell you, what you do have we will remove then sell you what we have. As much as donor reliance is a weakness and stagnates, it is also the MO in order to conduct business. As the saying goes; ‘Never teach a man to fish, or he will’ the role of economic churn for ‘Assistance is not self reliance’.

Posted by: kev | May 26 2013 15:38 utc | 36

@25 Here is an extended speech (1hr 8min) from May 9th. At 44:00 min in, he notes that Israel is opening the door for popular resistance in the Golan Heights. He says they Hezbollah will provide financial and moral support and help with coordination to liberate the Golan.
youtube DOT com/watch?v=0MxWKTOkW5s
Israel is playing a dangerous game. They’ve not only not defeated Hezbollah, they’ve created a new one called “21 Million Syrians”.

Posted by: guest77 | May 26 2013 16:46 utc | 37

34 it is checkmate for Israel

The most potent Russian air defense system, the long-range S-300, is “on its way” to Syria, Eshel said. He did not say where he got his information but it could indicate that appeals by Netanyahu to Russia to scrap such a deal had not succeeded.
Russia’s foreign minister said on May 13 that it had no new plans to sell an advanced air defense system to Syria but left open the possibility of delivering such systems under an existing contract.
One senior Israeli official quoted Netanyahu as saying privately that the S-300 could “turn Israel into a no-fly zone” as well as curb its currently unrestrained Lebanese overflights.

I am not sure what the US Russian understanding is. My gut feeling is that they let Syria finish Al Nusra and the US stops its support for extremist groups destabilizing the Ex Soviet Empire. The understanding will also concern Iran.

Posted by: somebody | May 26 2013 17:25 utc | 38

Here’s a recent cartoon by Mr. Fish, which has me a bit baffled:
http://www.truthdig.com/cartoon/item/monkey_business_20130524/
I understand why Obama is depicted as the Wicked Witch of the West. That’s no-brainer. What I don’t understand is why the cartoon is entitled “Monkey Business.” Can someone here explain this to me without invoking racism?

Posted by: Cynthia | May 26 2013 19:05 utc | 39

Here’s a recent cartoon by Mr. Fish, which has me a bit baffled:
http://www.truthdig.com/cartoon/item/monkey_business_20130524/
I understand why Obama is depicted as the Wicked Witch of the West. That’s no-brainer. What I don’t understand is why the cartoon is entitled “Monkey Business.” I suspect it has something to do with Obama’s wicked enthusiasm for predatory drones. But I don’t see how this can be described as “monkey business.” Can someone please enlighten me on this without invoking racism?

Posted by: Cynthia | May 26 2013 19:29 utc | 40

39 – from Wikipedia
“Most of her power resides in the creatures she controls. She has a pack of wolves, a swarm of bees, a flock of crows and an army of Winkies. She possessed the enchanted Golden Cap, which compelled the Winged monkeys to obey her on three occasions. First, the witch commanded the creatures to help her enslave the Winkies and to seize control of the Western part of the Land of Oz. Second, she made the Winged Monkeys drive the Wizard out of the Winkie Country, when he attempted to overthrow her.”

Posted by: somebody | May 26 2013 19:40 utc | 41

Oh, now I get it, somebody. Thanks for the info.
Also, according to The American Heritage Dictionary, “monkey business” is not just slang for silly, but it’s ALSO slang for “mischievous, or deceitful acts or behavior.” That further clears things up for me.
Well done, Mr. Fish! And thanks again, you nameless somebody.;~)

Posted by: Cynthia | May 26 2013 20:09 utc | 42

kev 36
tks about wfp
should’ve guess it, world bank, who…..

Posted by: denk | May 27 2013 3:20 utc | 43

Two Le Monde journalists claim to have witnesses gas warfare in Syria.
http://www.lemonde.fr/proche-orient/article/2013/05/27/chemical-war-in-syria_3417708_3218.html
There is also a video :http://www.lemonde.fr/proche-orient/video/2013/05/27/video-guerre-chimique-sur-le-front-de-damas_3417739_3218.html
Suprisingly, both are in English. Its a firt-time for Le Monde, which is disturbing enough to dig deeper.
A closer look at photos and videos reveal it looks all fake as usual. When that guy gets some treatment for his eyes, you can see a youngster behing him on the right laughing. There is also no proof of any usage of any chemical weapon. Rebels just decide to put their mask at a moment and claim they are under chemical attack, in what looks like a bad acted play.
There are two interviews of doctors stating they took care of gas-contamined patients. You can see on both pictures and video that they are treating bare hands, against what they claim to be Sarin gas. If it were, they would not be there to testify, and neither would be the journalist or the camera-man.
Also, a contradiction. Another claim is made, that Syrian Arab Army hit civilians with their weapons. But in the article, it’s writter just before the 4th picture that “beside a few fighters, no one lives in Jobar anymore”.
Enjoy you piece of true propaganda 🙂

Posted by: Rhysa | May 27 2013 10:38 utc | 44

@Rhysa – agree – also the symptoms described in that piece are all consistent with riot control gases and inconsistent with chemical weapon use

Posted by: b | May 27 2013 15:39 utc | 45

Strange, the recent Texas ‘shooting’ got very little air time, near zero outside the US.
Facts: He was white (Drives a pick-up), a Marine and in Texas; Do those facts make the story less media worthy – Or It’s labor day, and one can’t make the natives restless?
I happen to know one who was shot, luckily survived, although an 3rd party person, it was still someone I knew and in my circle.
The last thing I want to hear is ‘No air time because he is white/marine’ and not ‘Other’ with some link to Islam etc. But it seriously does seem that way;
Even media blogs treat this with lightness, in one by example; and a single poster, yet high views:
“Smith is one of the smartest and kindest people to have ever been placed on this planet. He was a philosopher. He served his country bravely and with honor. My thoughts and prayers go out to all those killed and injured as a result of his actions. I’m sure 99% of people reading this will just ignore it and assume he is just another monster with a gun. But that’s not the case.”
Esteban J. Smith has been ID’d as the gunman, the shooter was a Marine stationed in NC. He killed a woman there, then came to Texas to shoot people.

Posted by: kev | May 27 2013 23:05 utc | 46

@Denk#43, It is a shame, WFP has some fantastic people, it’s only when a political agenda is laid they are reprimanded ‘Don’t rock the boat’. It is really either your in or out, for the majority it is a job, thus income and a lifeline, in turn they turn a blind eye. One can say the same for most of the entities, this includes military/service personel, either by Nation or within a collective like Nato or Peacekeeping. The combatant (Including non-combatants) simply follow orders in the belief they are doing right. I personally throw a track when civilians are used, entrapped, victimized etc. Unfortunately that seems to be the MO across the board, call it the PR and Marketing element; it is big business after all.
@39, another cartoon (More a skit) termed him as ‘o’Banana man’ the same ‘racist’ thought transpire. The write/cartoonist was referring to his sexual preference because of a club he frequented known for ‘Man on man action’ and US’s infatuation with being Gay in relation to daily media as a focal point, likewise the Administration driving a Gay agenda to ‘Possibly’ stem population growth. In its own right (the message) was controversial and likewise deemed as discrimination; but the Banana man was reference to being ‘Bent’ or a ‘Bender’ a Brit slang term for being Gay, thus pushing a personal agenda as well as using the ‘position’ (Pun1) of power without coming in from behind(Pun2). In that Pun 1&2 were part of the skit. Cartoon. The Mr. Fish cartoon is open ended; Wicked witch (Also female by definition), impending doom (Looking up) or as one would say ‘Blow back’ from what ‘He’ has orchestrated. and the broom, cleaning house could be interoperated, but caught in the middle (The carpet of planes/drones. Note: When referring a search on the cartoon, Google asked me for a capcha! How odd..
The uproars have happened with greater frequency in the U.S. since the inauguration of Barrack Obama. A cartoon by Sean Delonas published in the New York Post in 2009, featured police shooting a crazed chimp said to have written the stimulus bill. The scene was pulled from real life when a chimp viciously attacked a woman, horribly maiming her for life. In the cartoon, the monkey is supposed to represent the leadership in Congress, but was immediately taken to symbolize Obama, leading to a national news story in the U.S.
The most dramatic cartoon I saw was an adaptation of the Lion King, without Bimba though, and the reverse of life, Obama holding Bin Ladens head over the cliff – Hajo de Reijger, a Dutch editorial cartoonist, and he did get flack…
That is why I dont go to art type displays, my take always seems wrong, we all see slightly self worth/aspects (Relationship), the eye of the beholder and all that.

Posted by: kev | May 28 2013 11:29 utc | 47

The new enemies list is out!
“The exchangers, the indictment said, “tended to be unlicensed money-transmitting businesses without significant government oversight or regulation, concentrated in Malaysia, Russia, Nigeria and Vietnam.”
Malaysia really going for the top spot lately.
Funny, I don’t recall seeing any perp walks when HSBC laundered money for Al Qaeda and Los Zetas…
http://www.nytimes DOT com/2013/05/29/nyregion/liberty-reserve-operators-accused-of-money-laundering.html?pagewanted=all

Posted by: guest77 | May 29 2013 2:09 utc | 48

@Guest77#48 – Malaysia does not gel with laundering reports and DOJ data. EXAMPLE: http://www.state.gov/j/inl/rls/nrcrpt/2013/vol2/204063.htm but the US has been interfering there, my assumption is the Asian Pacific drive. A focus on disruption within the banking system would be a ideal method to disrupt business. Here is an interesting piece, US-Saudi funded terrorists invade eastern Malaysian state of Sabah http://www.presstv.com/detail/2013/03/08/292512/usled-terrorists-invade-malaysia/
It has been a long time path; the US has the PI in its pocket and the getting in bed with Saudi Arabia is recent since before it was in fact not the case; I guess agendas change “The United States suspected Saudi Arabian ambassador to the Philippines Muhammad Amin Waly of potential involvement in funding terrorists. A security aide of then-US president George W. Bush raised concerns in a private meeting with Prince Saud al-Faisal, the Saudi foreign minister, in Jeddah in 2007, the secret cable showed. Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Terrorism Francis Townsend cited Waly’s intervention to secure the release of two members of an Islamic charity detained in the Philippines, the cable showed. The group was suspected of funnelling funds to Al-Qaeda-linked groups based in the southern Philippines”.

Posted by: kev | May 29 2013 8:06 utc | 49

Turkish spring

Posted by: somebody | May 31 2013 18:33 utc | 50

It is called #occupygezi

Posted by: somebody | May 31 2013 18:33 utc | 51

Emre KIZILKAYA ‏@ekizilkaya 36m
. @ikoker confirms: Soldiers distribute masks to people&shouted at police: “If u gas them, then we can also find something to shoot at u”

Posted by: somebody | May 31 2013 18:37 utc | 52

Do you smell the military restoration of Atatürk’s order approaching ?

Posted by: Rhysa | May 31 2013 21:19 utc | 53

I think it might be time for a Turkey thread…
And they say blowback is mere myth.

Posted by: Malooga | Jun 1 2013 2:47 utc | 54

the insufferable muricuns are at it again,
im sure everybody see the screaming headlines
*shangrila dialogue – hagel sends big warning to china* [sic]
+Pick almost any date on the calendar and it’ll turn out that the muricun gangsters either started a war, supposedly ended a war [which it started], perpetrated a massacre or sent its UN Ambassador into the Security Council to declare to issue an ultimatum, or warning somebody for allegedly doing what the muricun gangsters doing best+
http://www.counterpunch.org/2007/03/24/where-are-the-laptop-bombardiers-now/
this is the best retort to the muricun gangsters
hey chuck, take this n stuff it up ur ass eh ?
http://www.4thmedia.org/2013/06/02/the-irrational-racist-fear-of-china-the-irrationality-and-racism-of-the-west-

Posted by: denk | Jun 2 2013 16:11 utc | 55

another one bite the dust
http://www.countercurrents.org/auken070613.htm

Posted by: denk | Jun 7 2013 17:53 utc | 56

How did Ambassador Stevens die in Libya?
from last year:
Rena Netjes ‏@RenaNetjes 16 Sep
TV host Fatma Ghandour tells me that latest indicates that US ambassador Stevens did not die from suffocation, but in another way…#Libya
now:
Al Qaeda weapons expert: U.S. ambassador to Libya killed by lethal injection
Group sought to kidnap Stevens for exchange of imprisoned terrorists
So a hostage situation was planned for the US elections reminding of Jimmy Carter’s presidency.

Posted by: somebody | Jun 8 2013 7:09 utc | 57

Oh the Stupidity – it burns.
what was it that someone said here recently? something about “spreading stupid theories …”
and all based on nothing at all
…………… as usual.
Kind of a “signature tune” of yours, at this stage.

Posted by: nobody | Jun 8 2013 9:22 utc | 58

58) nothing?
Romney’s Carter Illusion

“I’m not predicting a blowout like we ended up having in ’80,” McConnell said in an interview. But the mood strikes him as similar. It’s an atmosphere “in which people really don’t think the guy’s done a very good job, and the Democrats are betting on our candidate being inadequate.”
The speech Romney delivered is the speech that a candidate who believes he’s running against another Carter would deliver.

Posted by: somebody | Jun 8 2013 9:35 utc | 59

more – nothing

Last night, CBS News corespondent Sharyl Attkisson broke the news that U.S. officials asked Libyan allies on the ground in Benghazi to list the name on Ambassador Christopher Stevens’ death certificate as “John Doe,” so as “to avoid drawing undue attention to the importance of the victim.”
Not surprisingly, the “bombshell” quickly fanned flames of “coverup” allegations. Fox News included the revelation in its hourly news roundup every hour so far today, starting at 5 a.m., and it’s a safe bet that by this afternoon, “John Doe” will become the latest confirmatory data point for those who have long believed that the Obama administration essentially let Stevens and the other Americans die by delaying a rescue mission, and then covered it up.
Attkisson has doggedly pursued the Benghazi story, as she did Fast and Furious, so the context is probably obvious to her, but what’s missing from her report is any explanation of why covering up Stevens’ identify makes perfect sense. After all, Gregory Hicks, the No. 2 State Department officer in Libya, testified that the hospital Stevens was taken to was “controlled by Ansar Sharia,” the very same jihadi group that had launched the attack on the diplomatic post.
Ansar Sharia — or, for that matter, any other group that wanted to embarrass or even extract a ransom from the U.S. — would probably have been thrilled to find the ambassador’s body lying in their hospital. So it makes sense that U.S. officials would try to conceal Stevens’ identity as much as possible. He was already widely known in Benghazi, so it’s actually remarkable the Americans and local friendlies were able to escape with his remains, as they did. Imagine how much worse the situation would have become if it turned into a pseudo-hostage crisis, where whoever possessed Stevens’ body would be empowered to make demands for its return or desecrate it for propaganda purposes.

Posted by: somebody | Jun 8 2013 10:01 utc | 60

……………

Posted by: lotsofnoise | Jun 8 2013 21:24 utc | 61

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Posted by: lotsofnoise | Jun 8 2013 21:30 utc | 62